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Listed below are comments made by silverliningalways between Friday, 10th October 2008 and Friday, 19th June 2009.

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Lisbon: A Pandora's box 2:42pm on 19 Jun 2009 The Irish Government's reasons for the NO vote are fake. The one concerning "military conscription" was fabricated by the YES camp during the last campaign. Government ministers and others supporting YES were the only ones who ever mentioned it.
These reasons are being fed to us by the YES gang on why they think people voted NO.They still don't get it ? They just have no understanding of why people voted NO and will vote NO once again. They cannot still comprehend that Lisbon was defeated last year.
My own reasons for voting NO have nothing to do with this pointless list. Our government is attempting to fool us with a web of deceit and lies.
Get Ganley! 5:08pm on 10 Oct 2008 #50. Hiddenranbir

"I'm still trying to understand what specifically they said "no" to in the Treatty."

There were various media reported reasons for the "no" - military neautrality, abortion, free trade, immigration, loss of independence. Some of these were wildly exaggerated by the Irish media (who really were fairly biased during the campaign and shocked by the result - notably a certain national broadcaster and a broadsheet newspaper).

The Yes camp are still puzzled by the no result and want to know what could be changed to get a Yes in a referendum rerun. Anybody who voted no knows why they voted in that way.

Personally, I voted no as I couldn't see any real benefits for the ordinary people of the EU in letting the Lisbon Treaty get through. One of it's greatest weaknesses was that it was self-perpetuating (having the power to renew or perpetuate itself for an indefinite length of time). This effectively would mean that the EU bureaucrats would never need to ask the people's opinion again and roll on with their US of E power game.

I am sure other voters would have their own views. Let's hear from any out there?
Get Ganley! 1:39pm on 10 Oct 2008 Ganley is not the baddy here. In Ireland, the main political parties can't understand why we the electorate didn't support on the Lisbon Referendum. They are still smarting from the defeat.

We didn't because we don't trust them ! They couldn't sell us the Treaty in a convincing manner, like as if they weren't really convinced themselves.

Just because we voted the way as Ganley's Libertas, doesn't mean we agree with everything they stand for. Likewise for UKIP, John Marie Le Penn and Sinn Fein.

The politicians both Irish and EU were trying to pull some sort of fast one on us and they stopped. Thankfully as least one EU country had to have a referendum.

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