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Listed below are comments made by CountingChickens between Friday, 3rd April 2009 and Thursday, 29th October 2009.

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Scientists v Politicians: Round 3 6:17pm on 29 Oct 2009 95*

I think cannabis is harmful but that is only my opinion. My wife used to do a soup-kitchen run in Manchester in the 80's for the homeless and the street girls. They could cope with the drunks but people who really scared them were the ones on cannabis. This appears the opposite to what most people believe.

What I am also saying is that because the only available way, for most people, to get drugs is through a dealer and because it is through a dealer, many people will have paid a heavy price for that supply. Dealing in drugs, as most people know, is very much an industry of greed. It doesn't really matter why there are drug dealers about. All that matters is that if you take drugs like cannabis and cocaine, someone somewhere will have suffered for your little bit of pleasure.
Scientists v Politicians: Round 3 3:16pm on 29 Oct 2009 Bit of confusion. People think that appear to to be promoting the legalization of cannabis. I'm not saying that. What I am saying is that I live in the now. Various drugs are illegal now and what happens if they are made legal is unknown. It would be nice if cannabis was harmless and nobody was harmed in its sale. Living in the now unfortunately they are. You have to take responsibility for your own actions. If people die because of you smoking dope, then you have to take responsibility. There is no point saying the Government are at fault. You have to live with the real world in which we live and the real world is that many people die and are exploited to supply your drug habits.

The same applies to me if I buy clothes that are just too cheap on the high street. I know that some child somewhere is being exploited to make a cheap pair of trainers just for me. If I pretend otherwise, I am not fooling anyone but myself. It is hard to change the way you think and it is hard to admit responsibility. I have no idea if legalizing cannabis will reduce crime and save lives but knowing the English , as with 24 hour boozing ( oh and how that has reduced), I rather doubt it.
Scientists v Politicians: Round 3 1:50pm on 29 Oct 2009 One last word.

I live in the centre of Manchester. If you would like to meet the people who sell cannabis then come up here, I'll introduce them to you. We can wait until its a little dark then we can go walkies in Moss Side. Most of the people who sell the drugs are just normal people, daft kids really. I have no problem with them, after all, its a job. The trouble starts when someone else wants their patch. The result is often a turf-war with young kids dying. As I have said, because it is illegal your money goes to organized crime (it is another argument about legalization) People do die in this country and abroad because of cannabis (and other drugs, look at Columbia and Cocaine) and your money, unfortunately, is the cause.
Scientists v Politicians: Round 3 1:24pm on 29 Oct 2009 See....people are pretending that their cannabis is ethically produced. Some will be produced in a greenhouse in Crawley but the vast majority is produced by organized crime. You can not produce the amount of cannabis used in this country in people's greenhouses. There is not a day goes past without our local police discovering a cannabis farm where criminals rent a house,connect illegally to the electricity supply and use tens of thousands of Pounds of stolen electricity to produce cannabis. The plant needs warmth. Yes it does grow easily on the roadside in India but this is not India. The odd person may buy cannabis from a friend, fair enough, but please I say again, stop pretending that cannabis is grown ethically and that nobody suffers at the hands of organized criminals who make their money from the drug trade.
Scientists v Politicians: Round 3 12:31pm on 29 Oct 2009 To the weed lovers above.

Oh what a wonderful world we live in. All cannabis users are tea-total, non-smoking angels. Give me a break. If you smoke cannabis with tobacco you ARE a smoker. I can see why a common name for cannabis is dope. All I see are people using long words trying to sound clever. Remember, the argument from Professor Nutt is that cannabis is NOT dangerous and that smoking and drinking are.

The other fact is that you can only really buy Skunk from criminals (rightly or wrongly) That makes you a contributer to the rape and murder of the many people destroyed by the criminal classes as they exploit people to make the cannabis resin (yes it would not happen if it was legal but it isn't) This is not Nazi-Germany, you can't look away from your actions in contributing to crime with your money without people pointing it out. Yes, smoke your weed but don't forget what you are and where your money goes.....and please, don't pretend that the resin you smoke is fair trade and ethically produced.
Scientists v Politicians: Round 3 09:39am on 29 Oct 2009 Sometimes, I wonder about scientists. The pro-cannabis ones always talk about how cannabis is not as dangerous as other drugs like tobacco or alcohol. Have you ever met a cannabis user that doesn't drink or smoke (yes, they mix tobacco with Skunk). What he hasn't mentioned is that some reports put smoked cannabis at levels four times more carcinogenic than tobacco. Yes, cannabis may give you cancer so trust your local scientist. Yep, sure will.
The public spending debate 7:37pm on 10 Jun 2009 Just one thing I forgot, from a purely political outlook, any government could easily sack the whole Health and Safety Executive without any flak. ( 350,000 of them) :)
The public spending debate 6:50pm on 10 Jun 2009 As the Government debt is so high it looks like the pensions paid to state employees will also have to be cut by at least 10% or more. They may have to use sneaky tax increases to do this, rather than a straight cut but the result will be the same.
A √ Recovery? 2:12pm on 12 May 2009 There may be a recovery of sorts but there is also the time-lag of reduced spending by those made unemployed and the reduced spending from those who fear unemployment. This reduced spending, will probably keep us in the gloom for some time to come, regardless of what people say or hope....
RBS: Stop the flogging 09:36am on 03 Apr 2009 For all this talk about 2500 more job losses at RBS, it would be interesting to find out the total number of jobs lost in Scotland?

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