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Listed below are comments made by Integratex between Friday, 19th September 2008 and Monday, 22nd September 2008.

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Latin class 10:04pm on 22 Sep 2008 See.. now we are talking...

The reason they call themselves Americans is out of a combination of pride, tradition, and yes.. even a bit of ignorance.... I am sure it is not intended to be a monopolization of the name... God knows I've had this argument with many from the U.S.. This goes to point one of my mayor arguments... Most of our points of view are not necessarily our own but those that we have inherited from our family, friends, neighbors... school.. media.. etc... What we hear no doubt affects what we believe... it takes a concerted effort on our part to understand all sides of the argument... There is always reason behind the arguments of both the left and the right... or else people would not fight so hard for those beliefs.. the problem is that once most people have invested themselves in an argument they are not willing to budge.. it is that emotional investment that stops many us from opening our minds and reaching across the table in order to reach some sort of solution to the problem... Most agreements pushed forward by Washington (and other governments) are tailored to pacify those emotional investments and leave the root of the problem untouched... The only way for this to change is for all of us to educate ourselves on the issues and vote on issues.. not on sides or on liking people... Polarization (which is what is happening in this campaign) does nothing except force people to further invest themselves into extreme views of our society/political system... this will not allow for a properly balanced government (With checks and balances) to work effectively...

The bottom line is that Americans.. Europeans.. Asians.. etc.. are all alike.. we just want to be happy.... Remember.. the good always outnumber the bad... it is fear that gives those bad more power than they deserve...

Cheers
Latin class 4:05pm on 21 Sep 2008 P.S. One more thing... We have all conquered, been conquered, and migrated at one point in History... Don't complain unless you are offering a solution...
Latin class 4:03pm on 21 Sep 2008 Wow... the ignorance continues... I can't sit down and answer a lot of you right now... but let just put a couple of points forward:

Some of you think that Latin Americans should go to Mexico if they do not learn English.. or are Legal....

1. Latin Americans are not Mexicans. Latin Americans come from a huge number of different countries, backgrounds, and even languages. The reason that they/we are called Latin Americans is because our language is derived from the romance languages.. which were all derived from Latin.

2. Also, Where do you plan to get your vegetables from if every non-English speaking person was deported? China? If you think that we are going to find U.S. born white or black folk that are going to work the fields for minimum wage... think again... Most won;t even work at McDonalds which is under A.C. and includes benefits.

To those complaining about the immigration laws of the U.S.

1. Try going to live somewhere else and not being a citizen (Including Mexico). Fo those that want to learn of the atrocities that immigrants have suffered in Mexico.. just read the book.. El Hueco.. sorry.. you'll need to know Spanish... My parents are from Colombia and during the time that I did not have dual citizenship.. I would be escorted out of the country as soon as the 90 day visitors permit expired.. and Working somewhere else without visa? If you believe that will happen.. I have a bridge to sell!!!
Latin class 6:00pm on 19 Sep 2008 Wow! Talk about going off the subject. Most of what I read here sounds to be personal opinion and based on some level of ignorance.

Stating that a wall is meant to tell everybody they are not welcomed, That the U.S. is hated across all of Latin America, and on the article's take that you can get an idea of the latin vote from attending the New Mexico State Fair is plain silly to say the least.

I am both American and Latin, and yes, I do hold a dual citizenship. I recently got my dual citizenship since I spent a number of years in the U.S. Army and as a soldier are not allowed to have both. I consider myself 100% American and 100% Latin. I speak, read, and write both languages at college level and am thoroughly aware of both my cultures and heritage. I am both a father and a son. I do not have to choose to fully understand each side of the coin. I have a brother and a sister, and they both have also served. My brother has already been in Iraq and is going back in 2009.

To Mr. Ortega: I understand that having a wall placed between you and what you want is not a pleasant experience. Please understand the following:
1. The wall is meant to create structure. We must do something about how we as a people immigrate into this country. Would it not be better to have clear and effective rules as to how we can immigrate into the U.S. in a legal way that would grant us the rights this country has to offer. (This is where we have failed as Americans. If we do not provided proper rules and most importantly "guides" for becoming U.S. Citizens or residents, how can expect hungry people to stay away. Anybody who thinks that these accessible rules actually exist has never been on the other side of that fence.
2. To foxtrottango1: The Idea that all of Latin America hates the U.S.... well that's just not true. I have had the opportunity to to live, work, and travel through the Caribbean, Central, and South America (The three are as different as the U.S., Britain, and Australia) and can say that the different countries have different views regarding the U.S. If you ask a Cuban, a Colombian, or a Honduran what they think about the U.S. , you will get three different and distinct answers. As a matter of fact, Mexicans do not consider themselves as part of Central America in any way, shape, or form and would give you a completely different view than their neighboring countries. An important note to make is that Latin America is currently divided by those countries that have suffered at the hands of communism and those that are just starting to be influenced by its false promises of equality.
3. To the author of this article: There are dozens of countries that constitute the Latin American population of the U.S. each one has different priorities and different points of view. To a Colombian: The Trade agreement that would surely be turned down by the Democratic Party. To a Cuban: Well.. Need I say anything about Communism... To a Mexican: Who is going to make it easier for me to get in the U.S. Not to mention that there are greater complexities to the situation... Each Latin American country has a different class of population migrating to the U.S. countries like Venezuela, Colombia, and Brazil have lost a great deal of their educated citizens due to harsh economic and political situations in their country. These citizens have brought their life savings and invested into small companies that will be gravely affected by the taxing system that is to come in the next 4-8 years.

Lets stop making this personal.. lets talk about issues... Abortion and gay marriage have become the medias big issues to talk about.... right now most of us want to know if our hard work will pay off in having the American Dream come true.... Let's all contribute... we can't get ahead if only a part of the country is committed. Some think that the greatest generation has something to do with war. The greatest generation has everything to do with Americans of all ages, races, and genders coming together as one, in understanding that each one of us can and must make a difference, and most importantly in believing that the price for freedom is always worth it.

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