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Listed below are comments made by john-In-Dublin between Tuesday, 27th October 2009 and Sunday, 1st November 2009.

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When hope is all that's left 02:39am on 01 Nov 2009 # 182 MagicKirin wrote:

"Dominick why must I provide evidence for you? You could googled (sic) it yourself. You and other (sic) make opposite statements and present them as fact. when i do provide a link it is not sufficent (sic)."

1 As above - no evidence, just prejudice

2 Some evidence on the so-called 'apology tour", not obtained from Faux News.

"Pointing to President Obama's current overseas trip during the June 3 edition of Fox News' Fox & Friends, co-host Gretchen Carlson asserted that "[l]ast time" Obama went to Europe and the Middle East, "a lot of people said, Steve [Doocy, co-host], that he was on an apology tour of sorts." Prominent among those "people" who characterized his April trip as "an apology tour" were many Fox News hosts, contributors, analysts, and regular guests, who often took out of context remarks Obama made during his trip to support their claim. Moreover, Fox News has trotted out its smear for Obama's current trip to Europe and the Middle East, baselessly promoting "another apology tour.""

It goes on to give numerous examples. I've never heard of this site before - ironically enough, it came up on Google.

Link is here - http://mediamatters.org/research/200906030039

MK and Fox - Unfair and Unbalanced....
When hope is all that's left 02:31am on 01 Nov 2009 # 179 Interestedforeigner wrote: [addressing "MagicKirin"]

"This statement seems at odds with the facts, first because there clearly was another President shown astonishing disregard by foreign leaders, and second because, other than the predictable hard cases, there is not, as far as I am aware, a single instance of a foreign leader showing disrespect to President Obama. On the contrary, there have been embarrassing examples of leader after leader fawning over the poor man."

"I doubted that there was any factual basis for your statement at 165, I asked for an example of a world leader, other than the predictable hard cases, who has shown public contempt for President Obama./You haven't named a single one, or identified a single incident."

"So, I say again, please identify a single instance in which a credible foreign leader has shown contempt for President Obama, as you assert in your original statement at 165."

Interested, I was not the first, and you probably won't be the last, to ask MK for facts to back up his prejudices. They may come when pigs fly and/or hell freezes over. Not before.

Most people would be embarrassed to be constantly shown up like this. Sadly, Shame, like, Truth and Evidence, is one of the many concepts he has no grasp of.
When hope is all that's left 02:24am on 01 Nov 2009 # 174 MK

"Obama's diplomacy or apology tour has brought dividens [sic] . No help from Russia and China on the nuclear threat, no quid pro [sic] from Russia for cancelling the missle [sic] defense sheild [sic] , no lessing [sic] of anti-american [sic] rehotoric [sic] from the Chavez, Morales Corea and the other latin American depsots [sic] . No overture from Arab states to Israel."

So perhaps you'd like to provide evidence of exactly how and when the foreign policy of your idols Bush/Cheney achieved these goals?

Of course not - evidence is a concept entirely beyond your grasp.

And looking at your postings, it doesn't seem that Bush/Cheney achieved much in the fight against illiteracy either.....
When hope is all that's left 02:18am on 01 Nov 2009 # 171 Interestedforeigner wrote:

"Oh, Rip-van-Kirin, you must have been asleep, blind, deaf, and sealed in a hermitage for the last eight years."

Only 8 years?

I applaud your efforts to deal with this person using fact, argument, logic and literacy.

Unfortunately there is endless evidence on this blog that they are wasted on him - he deals only in mendacity, prejudice, bigotry, smears and pidgin English. As in Alice in Wonderland - 'words mean what he wants them to mean, no more, no less.'

Since you have dared to disagree with him, it shouldn't be too long now before he smears you as an anti-Semitic terrorist appeaser.

Unfortunately, since he skulks as a coward behind a cloak of anonymity, I doubt any of us have any recourse in law.

[Although there have been some interesting cases in that area recently...]
When hope is all that's left 3:17pm on 31 Oct 2009 # 137 MagicKirin wrote

"Fluff Brain or Marbles I am so much wiser than you are about the world it is even funny. They are people here you can disagree with but have argue point but you are not one of them."

'Have argue point' - anyone know what language that is and what it means in English?

"You Dunlin [sic] idiot and Simple Simon have the same points

bush/cheney are always evil
Obama can do no wrong
To criticize Obama makes you a racist
Terrorism against christian and Jews is historicly [sic] justified
left dictators are misunderstoond [sic]

I suggest you go back to Nicholodean [sic] and watch that programing which is closer to your sophistication level"

To watch a semi-literate fool devoid of logic or honour lecture OTHER PEOPLE on idiocy and sophistication - I don't know if it's funny or sad. Both perhaps.

Yet again, for the umpteenth time, he mendaciously defames me by ascribing to me views I have not expressed.

And now the MagicKirin theme tune - that old classic - The Boxer by Simon and Garfunkel

All together now

"Lie, Lie, Lie,
Lie, Lie, Lie, Lie, Lie, Lie, Lie,
Lie, Lie, Lie..."
When hope is all that's left 10:52pm on 30 Oct 2009 # 119 MagicKirin wrote:

"Better Kirin land than Dublinville where terrorism is celebrated if it commited [sic] against Americans or Israelis."

I do not celebrate terrorism, whether against Americans, Israelis, or anyone else. [Or indeed, by Americans, Israelis, or anyone else.]

I've posted dozens and dozens of time over many many months on this blog, and indeed on other BBC blogs. To see any and all of my postings, you only have to click on my name. If you can show just once where I have 'celebrated terrorism ...against Americans or Israelis' please do so. If not, consider yourself revealed once again as a scurrilous, defamatory liar.

You lie. And then you lie. And then, just for a change - well, you lie again. Don't you ever get tired of your lies? The rest of us certainly do.

Coming soon - 'Lies And The Lying Liars Who tell Them - The Authorised Biography Of MagicKirin'.

Your mendacity is matched only by yout illiteracy.
When hope is all that's left 7:51pm on 30 Oct 2009 # 100 MagicKirin wrote:

"Very naive view of the world which Obama shares.

war is necessary when faced with certain threats like the Nazis and like Islamic facism [sic].

I hope the world can survive such a clueless man as a state senator who has no business in the oval office."

Yawn

Obama belongs in the Oval Office because the American electorate put him there by a significant margin. Get over it.

On the subject of 'clueless men ...who had no business in the Oval Office' - according to the polls they rejected your buddies GWB & Dick Cheney by massive margins. Get over it.

The Republican electorate didn't even choose your buddy Mitt as a candidate - possibly due to his blatant insincerity and relentless flip-flopping. Get over it.

The electorate rejected a continuation of Bush/Cheney in the guise of McCain/Palin. Get over it.

Obama was a State Senator. He was also a US Senator, even if not for long. But don't start letting the facts interfere with your prejudice.

The US electorate chose the relatively inexperienced Obama over the hugely experienced McCain. Partly, I suspect, because one of the most vital decisions McCain made in the campaign was who would replace him if he was elected and died or fell seriously ill. He chose Palin - whom he barely knew. And Obama is the 'naive' one!?

No doubt the electorate also considered the vast success of 'experienced' men like Cheney and Rumsfeld...

Since 'naive' in KirinWorld means having a world view rather more sophisticated than sticking your fingers in your ears, closing your eyes and repeatedly yelling 'America-and-Israel-are-always-right-everyone-else-is-always-wrong-don't-confuse-me-with-the-facts-la-la-la-can't-hear-you' - thank God for naivety.

And Magic - you can and no doubt will repeat your endless prejudices for Bush/Cheney and against Obama. It won't change anything. Least of all anyone's mind.
When hope is all that's left 11:04am on 30 Oct 2009 # 74 amerika_first wrote:

"Soon the USSR will resurface as the USSA. Congrats liberals you have finally succeeded. Just like in the movie Amerika."

He also compares Obama to Kim Jong-il, the Dictator of N Korea.

[In case anyone is interested, Amerika was apparently a mini-series in the 80's about the USA after invasion by the USSR. Wiki link is here - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amerika_(TV_miniseries)#Critical_reception.]

TV Guide apparently said of it, "arguably the most boring miniseries in a decade" and "ABC's Amerika tried to hold America hostage for seven tedious nights (and a stupefyingly dull 14½ hours) by conjuring up a fuzzy vision of a Soviet occupation of the U.S."

Yeah right, "amerika_first". Obama the Muslim Commie is coming to take your property, your liberty, your tinfoil hat...

{Since you think Obama is as bad as Kim Jong-il - why not move to N Korea?]
Why 'adolescent America' has to grow up 7:33pm on 27 Oct 2009 # 232 seanspa wrote:

"I too have sympathy for mk. The mods pick on me as well, changing my brilliantly written posts so that they appear here as a load of carp."

For Cod's hake, Seanspa, are you seriously suggesting that salmon in the BBC is altering your postings?

Sounds distinctly fishy to me....
Why 'adolescent America' has to grow up 7:29pm on 27 Oct 2009 # 222 fluffytale wrote:

"so grammar troll,if you like but it proves nothing about anything to do with reasoning."

Fluffyjack, this seems to be rather a recurring theme of yours.

Obviously the odd typo will slip into everyone's posting, and obviously some people are better at spelling and punctuation than others.

I certainly don't point out every such error I spot. I do tend to if replying to MagicKirin because [a] it's easy - they're hard to miss, and he often manages them at a rate of about one a sentence, if not more. [Of course, I didn't realise that the Mods were inserting these errors - clearly they are terrorist sympathisers ;-)] [b] I enjoy it and [c] I think it's merited, since so many of his postings are little more than prejudice and snidery, generally with very little evidence. [Ironically enough, one of the many groups he has a beef with seems to be academics...]

Having said that, to my mind, making some attempt at correct grammar, spelling and punctuation - using paragraphs [with spaces between them], commas, full stops, capital letters etc - is a courtesy to the reader, and makes a posting easier to read. So if people don't bother with them, I tend to skip over their postings.

To use an analogy - if I am talking to someone with a strong accent, or a stutter or some other speech defect, I would expect to make the effort to understand them. OTOH, if someone attempts to talk to me while eating, with their mouth full of food, but wide open, spraying crumbs as they go - I'm likely to give them a miss, regardless of how scintillating they may think themself...

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