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Listed below are comments made by TheStonemason between Sunday, 22nd November 2009 and Monday, 23rd November 2009 (19 Hours Ago) .

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Yes, probably. 4:01pm on 23 Nov 2009
I have to go out shortly .....

..... you and others on your side of the separatist fence have repeatedly supported the minority win at the last referendum as being legitimate, In Edinburgh there is a minority government, MT governed well though not to your liking, if she had upset sufficient numbers of the electorate the Lady in question would have been voted out of office, as it is, and as you have frequently reminded me, the "YES" abstainers kept her in power.

The Lady was in power because there was insufficient opposition from the electorate, this same electorate was also sick and tired of the unelected rabble dictating policy, or trying to, she was in power because insufficient people opposed her policies.
Yes, probably. 3:11pm on 23 Nov 2009
The Right Honourable The Baroness Thatcher was Prime Minister from 1979 to 1990, eleven years, during that time I do not remember a revolution that denied the people of the UK the vote, she was voted into power three times. During her period of governance GDP increased by %23.3, Total government spending increased by %12.9, Law and order increased by %53.3, Employment and training increased by %33.3, Health increased by %31.8, Social security increased by %31.8, and if Scargill and the miners hadn't decided they should be governing the country even more could have been achieved.

But there you have it, the undemocratic wanted to be boss ........... except she wouldn't move over for the undemocratic rabble.
Merry Christmas 2:58pm on 23 Nov 2009 At #46 penddu wrote ......

No move to independence without a fair democratic vote. If the people say no so be it.

.... How many people should vote "No" to win such an election ?

.... How long after a defeat would you be up and after a second bite at the apple ?

On the subject of partition, geographical division is a very sensible option where the population has deep divisions. There can be no doubt when speaking to the Nationalists that anything less than a separate state is just not enough, when reading Nationalist blogs there is definitely no second way, read MH_ in his blog and there is a serious discussion on how this brave new Nationalist World will be run, not by the little people, but by an elite political group having a singular objective, Soviet springs to mind.

There must be case for a referendum on the subject of independence, on a county by county basis, creating a new country from the counties that wish for independence, if the counties are not adjacent the true democratic people of Wales would compromise. If no county wished to join an exodus to a new promised land then I'm sure the people of a peninsular could be bought out to create an archipelago for the disgruntled and disaffected separatists of our green and pleasant land.
Living in Wales 1:37pm on 23 Nov 2009
What's it like living in Wales is a question you can only respond with the question ......

...... where else would I live ?

Public transport gets us there, NHS keeps us well, Education teaches our children how to read and write with a little arithmetic; all fairly positive, do I have a gripe ......

..... well things could be better, maybe its the wrong type of people getting the jobs, politicians instead of doctors, politicians instead of transport managers, politicians instead of educators, and it is everywhere throughout the UK, too many politicians and their familiars trying to be everything to everyone .........

If the politicians concentrated on framework and left the details to the little people, non-politico's for Fo's benefit, things just might get relevant.

Forgetting the politicians it's wonderful ..........
Yes, probably. 12:49pm on 23 Nov 2009
I still admire many things that she did, but I also admire Beveridge, he saved my life twice, philosophically that is, also Bevan who drove the NHS into existence, and there are many others from all parts of the world; I'm afraid you and yours have no great people amongst its lists, only those who would destroy a country ...............
Yes, probably. 12:40pm on 23 Nov 2009
True Wales has made quite a profound statement on their new website .....

quote from the last paragraph of .....

The All Wales Convention (AWC)Comes Out of the Closet

........ given this list of objectives, the Convention [AWC] saw fit to answer a completely different questions, exposing itself as the publicly funded 'yes' campaign that we have always suspected it to be.

This biased position of the AWC will require a fully audited set of accounts to be submitted to the Electoral Commission I believe, to be set against the forthcoming referendum campaigns, can the "No" vote now expect twelve months and £1 million plus to start its campaign ? How will the electorate respond to the "undemocratic" actions of the Plaid / Labour coalition in its social engineering exercise I wonder.
Merry Christmas 11:41am on 23 Nov 2009
Partition is also on the agenda because it is a solution to a problem where people are unwilling to live together in peace unless the majority are subjugated by the minority. As a [generally] non-violent population, where 5% wish for something quite alien to the remaining 95% of the population, why not ceed 5% of the landmass as a new territory, Monaco is small so size is not an issue.
Yes, probably. 10:53am on 23 Nov 2009
#103 FoDafydd, ..... I didn't remove anything incriminating, that implies law breaking, as you wrote .....

Why have you removed the incriminating evidence from your own site then? What are you scared of?

I did simplify matters to help you and yours understand that small government is not specific to departments or functions of government, it is a philosophy that supports democracy. A political methodology where the lowest level is deemed a better place for decision making, for those with poor understanding of logic it doesn't exclude any function, but pushes down as far as possible the decision making process.

A coalition government following an election is both undemocratic and dishonest, where the largest group of representatives is too small to govern then a second election should take place where the coalition stands as a political group with an agreement for all to see. I would add that such an event is not necessary as demonstrated in Scotland where a minority government is able to function through consensus, although I wouldn't cross the road to douse Salmond ablaze, I think what has followed in Edinburgh is a good example of how politics might go forward particularly without the odour of extreme nationalism.
The appliance of science 7:30pm on 22 Nov 2009
I clearly do everything out of sight of the creeping Plaid plague, including enjoying the combat of rugby and enjoying every game of merit, no matter who wins, just because I enjoy sport. I understand the Nationalist supporters do otherwise, did I hear the boos of the plague on Saturday.

I wonder if the 60% petition in support of democracy in Wales will be put up this week ?
Yes, probably. 7:15pm on 22 Nov 2009
#100

Not scared of any future, just do not want your future of centrally controlling government interfering with every aspect of our lives, and of course an imposed manufactured social fabric.

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