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Listed below are comments made by robertzhao between Tuesday, 29th July 2008 and Thursday, 28th August 2008.

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In retrospect 7:24pm on 28 Aug 2008 77. At 7:19pm on 26 Aug 2008, aibaobao wrote:
to those who like to mark other 'brain-washing':

in chinese culture, family is the most important thing to us, our motherland is a big family.we love our motherland so much.it's a deep emotion and don't ever never call that 'brain-washing' if u don't understand our love.don't use ur cold heart to blaspheme our love!

Dear aibaobao,

I understand you love China very much. I also love China. But China is not a family. If you see how Chinese government has treated its poor rural people, you will understand at least it is not a good family. Chinese government has separated rurual peole from urban for more than 50 years. Although it has done something to improve rural people's life, the fundmental segaration policy has not been changed. The segration policy to the rural people is comparable with the apartheit policy performed in South Afarica. Do you still think your motherland, also my motherland, is a good family? Your loved government discriminately treat your brothers and sisters in your BIG family, is it still a good family?

Martin Luther King made a famous lecture for the black people's freedom in 1963, Aug, 28. Can we borrow his idea and request similar freedom for our rural people, in our big family? Should we give those rural peole same citizen rights, thus they can live in the city pursuing their dreams like those urban people? My brother or sisiter.
Freedom in China 4:25pm on 07 Aug 2008 145. At 06:25am on 07 Aug 2008, wonderfulchinese wrote:
To Robertzhao in post 89.

"The people who can speak English are mostly upperclass? English is taught in almost every single high school in China. How good of a person's English is purely dependent on how talented the person is and how much efforts he/she put in to study it. "

I appreciate your courage using this name, wonderfulchinese. I dare to say many excellent Chinese do not want to use such name, because they know who they are.

Your view about China just like a blind embracing a leg of an elephant, crying out "see, the elephant is like a pillar!"

When you see a desk, you see its top surface is very smooth. But please see the reversed side of the desk, you will find it is not polished.

One may roughly divide Chinese in China into two major poupulations, one is in the city or town (upper class), another is in the rural area (lower class). I believe most of those living in the rural area are the second or even third class of Chinese citizen, and most of those in the city are the first class. Most of people who can speak fluently in English live in the city; they most likly belong to the upper class. I, too, one of the upper class people. You, too, an elite person, a wonderful Chinese. But please take care of those people who are the second or third class citizen, help them. Do not close your eyes to them. Do not say you did not see millions of migrant workers being evicted from Beijing for the sake of the greatest, greatest game. Remember, new Beijing was mainly built by those evicted migrant workers. Have mercy on them.
Freedom in China 4:16pm on 06 Aug 2008 nihaorain2007 wrote:

You wrote:
i can't agree with you because my parent and my parenent in law are farmer living in very poor region in china, but they have benefit the huge postive change in china recently like the establishment of medical traitement , the tax free for farmer....

*** Frankly, I am very sad for your parents having such a kid like you. Don't you think your parents or parents in law deserved to be respected by their own country just like those city people? They might be really satisfied. But for those people who had been badly treated for a long period, any good change will make them happy, even they are still the second class citizen. I admit that there are many good changes for them, but the fundmental has not been changed. Your parents should be treated as the same people as others. As a kid of farmers, please try to help them, shout out for rights for them! Do not be so silly, so naive, just because your parents are satisfied. Some farmers even do not know they are badly treated. They think all these are right, that's their fate!

Just think those millions of migrant workers evicted from Beijing before the Olympic game. IF your brothers, or your parents were among them, how would you think of them? Still fair? Still satisfied?

I know you might have lived a gorgeous life after you become something. But you should know much better than others living in the city, becasue you came out from a very poor region. You should help those people in those poor regions.

I know now tax is free for famers. But this was acheived by many people's efforts, including the farmers themselves. The CCP would not do it by CCP itself. Its not good enough!

Farmers are not pigs -eating full and sleeping well is not good enough for them. They deserve equal human rights as any other people living in the city.
Freedom in China 5:19pm on 05 Aug 2008 dj1979,

Your comments make sense. However, I am afraid of that many of the ORDINARY Chinese people you met in China are not really ORDINARY, if they could speak English with you. Most of them belong to the upper class in China. Like rrrrzzzz, this person can not be considered an ORDINARY person. I think he/she is among those elites in China's poupulation, though he/she is such an elite who has little knowledge about ORDINARY Chinese peopel.

Many of the so called new generation of Chinese were grown up in an isolated enviroment. I have met a professor from China, who even aged around 40's, did not know at all about the Great Leap Forward movement happened in 1957-1960, during which many ORDINARY starved to death during that GREAT movement - I think the progeny of those survived such movements, and still live in those regions, or evicted from Beijing for the Olympics, are really ORDINARY Chinese people! I ususaly do not use the term citizen to describe them - they are certainly not the citizen of this country, or you have to use the term, they are the second or third class of citizen.

Facing a new generation Chinese who do not know their country's past, who do not know their country's real situation, what do you expect from them? only arrogance! They even do not know China needs to learn from the Western people - even though most current achivements were acquired by learning from the West.
Freedom in China 7:40pm on 04 Aug 2008 . At 2:42pm on 04 Aug 2008, Russsia007 wrote:
Human right in China is far better than Britain, at least the Chinese don't have to worry about being stabbed by teenagers in front of their own door!

### Hi Russsia 007,

You are an utterly naive guy! If our China is full of people like you, it will be a disaster for our country!

Ordinary Chinese people need journalists like James to cry out for them for their human rights. I did not see any point of that james hates Chinese.

Many Chinese people, even they have received higher education, can not distinguish between China, the government, and the ruling party. James points his finger at the government, but not at the Chinese people.

But James's knowledge about Chinese people, just like many Chinese persons on this site, is poor. On his mind, Chinese people only means those living in the cities, but not including those in the rural region.
Freedom in China 4:41pm on 04 Aug 2008 James,

I was disappointed by that you ignored the majority of China's people living in the rural region. Your ignorance to them just like that of the CCP. You mentioned that Chinese people had free health care before the open door policy. Please remember, it was just for people living in cities, nothing to do with the people in the rural area. Please keep in mind, those rural people have been treated as the second class citizen, if you call them citizen - they are actually slaves.
Unblocking websites 7:27pm on 31 Jul 2008 Topbear 1974,

I agree with you that Chinese government has no responsibility to report what have happened to James - you made a good point. However, Chinese people have right to know what have happened. The problem is that information is blocked by the ruler you support. What James has been doing is to help ordinary Chinese people to know the world. Smart like you, of course, do not need. But it does not mean ordinary people do not need. Do not be too defensive. Learn to accept different opinions, if they are right. Learn to tolerate different opinions, if they are stupid.

If somedays you make incorrect speeches, I will still support your right of free speaking.
Limited access 7:11pm on 31 Jul 2008 Dear Ricecake202,

You might be true regarding who is more credible among FLG and CCP, or BBC. But even FLG and BBC are wrong, they have right to express their opinion. The point is not who is correct; it is about freedom of information.

Even FLG is stupid, it has right to express its opinion.

Hope you can understand this point.
The benevolent emperor 8:19pm on 29 Jul 2008 You did a fantastic job, James!

We Chinese never blame the men (not women) on the top, because they are our fathers, they are gods, how can they get wrong? This is one side of the coin.

On the other side of the coin, if one dare to critisize the top, that means taht he or she is chasing fire like a moth. Most peole will not take that risk, even they know the top should be responsible for the problems.

We many know that Hu Jintao has some stupid ideas of how to rule China, but we simply have no way to directly criticize him.

In generaly, your conclusion that most Chinese believe in the emperor makes sense, but there are many who do not think so.

Hope to see more articles from you.

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