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Listed below are comments made by heyone between Tuesday, 12th May 2009 and Thursday, 4th June 2009.

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As if 1989 never happened 5:56pm on 04 Jun 2009 63. At 10:32am on 04 Jun 2009, shutuhh wrote:

"One thing is quite clear: If the event would have ended in the way western world wishes, China is now another soviet union."

I think the CCP should stop fooling their people into believing CCP = China. Even if CCP fell as a result of the protest, China wouldn't suddenly cease to exist.

You call yourself Chinese but you don't call yourself Communist do you?
As if 1989 never happened 5:45pm on 04 Jun 2009 53. At 5:52pm on 03 Jun 2009, aeroarchie wrote:

"#49 tclim38

At the time, the Chinese government had neither crowd control experience nor equipment like water canon and tear gas."

I don't believe 'lack of experience' is a valid excuse for murdering people ? Certainly not one for treating students with tanks and rifles, what kind of WMD do you think the students had?
Trying to get into Tiananmen Square 1:38pm on 04 Jun 2009 I'm not sure what kind of law they were referring to - certanly the Chinese contitution allows you to express yourself? It's these plain clothed thugs who are destroying the rule of Law - since when has Chinese law started forbidding people commemorating the deceased?

It's actually fun to see how the government is scared of the people in 'People's Republic'.
As if 1989 never happened 11:23am on 03 Jun 2009 It's irritating how some people think the killing of the students had led to China's prosperity today. As if it could only be achieved through killing.

I started to question whether these people are really as 'patriotic' as they would like to be labeled as. It seems to me that these people care about the survival of a particular regime more than their compatriots' lives.

It has to do with the education I guess, that people are taught the loosely defined 'national interests' is above all. Apparently, for the 'good' of 'everybody', having a few hundred or maybe thousand lives crushed is nothing. Scary.
As if 1989 never happened 11:09am on 03 Jun 2009 "When a colleague of mine mentioned Tiananmen Square during a mobile phone conversation, a Chinese voice interrupted his call for a few seconds."

Not surprising, as a reporter working for BBC, you should expect your phone conversations to be constantly monitored by the Chinese government.
As if 1989 never happened 11:00am on 03 Jun 2009 16. At 6:51pm on 02 Jun 2009, state_clark wrote:

"In 1989, the entire police force in the City of Beijing was not even 5% of the police force in the City of New York. So what else could the City of Beijing have done differently to remove the students from their largest national plaza after TWO long months if not using the army at the time when there were no such things as anti-riot police or national guards like we have in the U.S?"

You don't need tanks and rifles to remove people from the square. It seems that you think shooting, killing and crushing are acceptable, just because the government didn't have the 'right technology' as you claimed. And the government is still denying.
Still searching for answers 5:00pm on 13 May 2009 61. At 3:45pm on 13 May 2009, wuhaocom wrote:

"fact 1. if 8.0 scale quake happens in london, how many schools will hold?"

None. UK is not in the earthquake region therefore none of the school buildings have been designed to withstand earthquake, so this question is pretty irrelevant.

Sichuan, on the other hand, is in the earthquake region. Any building that gets built there is supposed to be designed and CONSTRUCTED to withstand earthquakes. In stronger earthquakes, buildings, if properly designed and built, may suffer severe damage, but not collapse.

"fact 2. when it happened, it happens right in the middle of class time

fact 3. it happens very close to major population

fact 4. the quake continues to rumble for 3 minutes, scale 8.0 quaeke in 3 minute is 18 times more devastating than scale 8.0 quake with just 10 seconds(like average quake)

fact 5. there were many aftershocks which exceeds 6.0 magnitude

fact 6. the epic centre is very shallow, which will cause more damage than deep epic centre"

Buildings wouldn't have collapsed and killed so many in the first place if they were properly designed and built. Whether it happened during class time is irrelevant. People would have had time to escape before anything fell down.

"fact 7. each schools has atleast 360 students(as you said above, 1 school building collpased killed 400 children), compared to how many school s collapsed, (IIRC was 700), the ratio is still very low(not more than 2% school children died in quake), so the arguement of all schools were poorly built is mute, infact 98% of the schools were strong enough to save 98% of school children's lives.

fact 8. total death toll at 70k, 5k in 70k very very low at 7%"

Let's assume your numbers are correct. Still are you suggesting we shouldn't seek justice for those who died in shoddily built buildings?

While some of your 'facts' may be true, they are pretty irrelevant if you're trying to use them to stop people from seeking justice for their killed children.
Still searching for answers 1:02pm on 13 May 2009 37. At 5:14pm on 12 May 2009, Home412AD wrote:

"So what? Yes, human beings are not perfect. Is that supposed to be newsworthy?"

Human beings are not perfect - so having substandard school buildings falling down in earthquake killing some school kids is quite normal and un-newsworthy by your and the state media's standards?

Sure how the bankers went unpunished makes you feel much more comfortable about how those children were killed as a result of these government officials' and building contractors' greed ?
Still searching for answers 12:51pm on 13 May 2009 It's okay to blame some low level nobody officials for being corrupt and incompetent, yet it's blasphemy to blame Wen or Hu. If you start pointing fingers at Wen or Hu, you become a traitor because Wen and Hu are the leaders of CCP and CCP IS THE STATE.

CCP just need their own Bible to become a proper religion. In fact, they 've already done it in the past - the 'Little Red Book' of Mao's quotes which everybody was supposed to hold a copy and study.
Still searching for answers 08:52am on 12 May 2009 You can expect people will get quite upset about you reporting about the injustice in China. Of course they are going to start pointing out irrelevant things like 'how could you have possibly interviewed those parents if the officials banned anyone reporting their campaigns?', ignoring the fact that just 2 months ago somone was just sent to prison for trying to find out how the school buildings collapsed and how children were killed. You know, trying to find the truth constitutes to 'subversion of state power' in this country. Much like the allegation of 'heresy' in medieval religious context when someone tries to point out the world isn't actually flat.

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