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Caught up in a conspiracy theory 11:08pm on 20 Oct 2009 I have been hosed out of the Injunctions and super injunctions comments as well, seems that I was not on topic. I would have thought that gaggs from above were relevant. Anyway, we have here and the dead parrot's society's half brain dead galah is back. Probably could not find an intellectual feed anywhere else.

Steve, you beat me with ex-CIA director woolsey's allegedly gagging fireman etc. 'Gagging' seems to be very 'in' at the moment especially given that, Niells Harrit's paper (with others) has not been reported on BBC or ABC or anywhere in the whoremongering mass media with their weapons of mass deception.

One has to keep in mind all these "gaggers", as they could be one day dealt with for an attempt to defeat the course of justice, of course jailing would be too good for persons who knowingly cover up such a crime or attempt to stifle a proper investigation.

Steve, you mention the use of ridicule at 5593 and point out that it fails to sway those of sufficient independent mind. On that, many professionals who have anything to to with matrimonial matters would be aware that ridicule, used by one or both partners (or indeed, anywhere, e.g. the office) can have a debilitating efect on relationships. Indeed, it can be the subject of an allegation of mental cruelty by one against another and of course often incites a corresponding defence/attack.

I mention this for the benefit of those staff at the BBC (or anywhere) that may be subject to ridicule if they are minded to consider that 9/11 is not what the ten Commisioners on 9/11 originally claimed. Some of them now concede that the report is based on some lies. If the government lied once then they are capable of lieing again, simply because they have lied they then can be termed liars and liars lie. It follows that they cannot be believed unless they prove that they are not lieing at any one time.

On the point of people having a suficient independence of mind, I might point out in regard to lawyers the following.

Lawyers are supposedly trained to be learned and in giving advice, provide a detailed analysis of the subject matter; completely free of any preconceived view/s and in such a manner that they are completely objective and impartial without any emotions or loyalties being applied. It is my respectfull opinion that the measure of a competent and genuine lawyer is based on the folowing, by using 9/11 as an example of a case study:

Whether they have simply accepted the official conspiracy theory without question.

Whether, having become aware that there are matters of some questions or inconsistencies with 9/11, they have attempted to examine those matters.

Whether, upon investigation it has been of sufficient depth to be able to either; determine that the official conspiracy theory is false or that there are sufficent 'unknowns' to warrant a further investigation.

So ther you are, test it out on your lawyer to determine if he or she really is a competent lawyer/attorney.

If, after being put on notice of samples of the many questions and inconsitencies in the official conspircay and investigation by the lawyer, they still believe the official conspiracy without question, sack him or her, as they are either; idiots, not to be trusted or do not have the capacity to be of an 'independent mind'.

Now Mr Rudin, perhaps you might comment as to whether the comment/s just above applies to investigative journalists and news outlets in general. I mention this beause the New Yory Times is to sack a 100. {Per Business Insider. Silicon Alley (valley?)} Of course we know why the poor Murdochracy (and others)is/are downsizing due to plumenting profits. Perhaps, if they had reported the Niells Harrit paper; on military grade nano-thermitic residue in the twin towers dust, the informed (becoming) public might have regained some trust in the mass media. Following from the lawyer example above, either they are iditos, not to be truted or just incompetent in that they do not have an 'indepndence of mind'. Are you able to say Mike, in what category the BBC comes under, as demonstrated by their lack of impartial and biased reporting (and lack there of) of the 9/11 mass murders?

It would appear abundently obvious by now to even a live galah, that in regard to 9/11 the gag is being applied, it is anti-democratic and hypocritcal to do so and possibly criminal.

Defy the gag BBC, (and the Australian Broadcasting Commision) demonstrate that the BBC has an "Independence of mind" and is just not a propaganda tool to be used by a minority scummy social element to cover up mass murders and ridicule those who simply want the truth about 9/11.

Otherwise, it may very well be seen in the near future that the media has betrayed the public and all semblence of being seen to be genuinely supporting our democracy and freedoms that the 'terrorists hate us for'.

One more thing, there are continuing reports that the varous intelligence agencies 'surf' for our comments. Well, 'Intelligence Agencies', how about a bit of truth? Then you will not have to lurk about and pry so much on we, your emplowers. By the way, why did not the intelligenec agencies report prior to 9/11 on all the put options on affected companies from the 9/11 mass murders. The preceding spike in trades detected by the agencies should have awakened them to the fact that airlines were to be involved. Intelligence agencies; don't worry about us, just go and find out who profited on all those put option investment and go hassle them and leave we law abiding peacefull people alone. Even the dumbest intelligence agent must know that those who did 9/11 are just as likely to repeat it, so we say again go find them.

If you are not aware of this go talk to Francesco Coriega (Sp/ name?) I have forgotten his name, but you lot and the BBC know him as a past President of Italy who disclosed the murders and bombings carried out by Western 'intelligence' (murderers) agencies in Italy in operation Gladio in the 1970's, to blame on the communists. Ask him who did 9/11, thankyou.

Hey sunshines, the 'GAG' is not going to work.
Caught up in a conspiracy theory 11:31pm on 14 Oct 2009 Atention all re 5510.

Parrot Carl will now present on behalf of the dead parrott's society a short dissidation on;

His knowledge of and whether any class or variation of what is generally referred to as 'nano-thermitic' material of the exposive kind can be classed as 'military grade'.

His experience, if any, on the use of Nano-thermitic material of the explosive kind.

His knowledge of the military's use, if any, of any class or variation of what is generally referred to as 'nano-thermitic' material and if used, for what purpose.

His knowledge as to whether or not the substance refferrd to by "The NASA guy" can be sprayed onto other surfaces.

His knowledge as to whether or not the substance referred to by "The NASA guy can be moulded into different shapes.
Caught up in a conspiracy theory 10:34pm on 14 Oct 2009 In a few weeks I will have the opportunity to spend a week or so with Jones and Gage. I will also have the opportunity to bring this discussion to their notice in print and see if they can provide the BBC with some responses to the dead parrots society.

Anyone who wants to place precise questions to either can post them here and I wil bring them to their notice.

I take it Mike you, on behalf of the BBC you would wish to be the first to prepare some questions on the topics of the collapses of the towers and Building No 7, after all you are an investigative reporter wishing to be diligent and dutiful in earning the public moneys that you are paid.

No promises, it depends on their time, but it is an opportunity not to be missed.

Lest anyone should think that this is a 'put on', we will get around that by reciting the questions and answers onto a separate 9/11 truth site, e.g. 9/11Oz or truthaction, which we have in Australia. That would be a matter for those running those sites.

By the way, the conference is in Sydney 0n 14-15th November, all welcome, contact truthaction in Oz run by John Bursill.

Just a thought, during the conference we might give the dead parrots society some exposure and read out the questions placed here and have the answers recorded for U-tube. That should avail any fear of a 'put on'.

Now here is an open bet; Betya that the Australian Broadcasting Commission in Australia does not go near any of the conference speakers or the conference. Same too, for our controlled mass media with their weapons of mass deception for killing and whoremongering.

Smell the fear,.................... like napalm in the morning, eh Mike?!!
Caught up in a conspiracy theory 10:13pm on 14 Oct 2009 Yesterday I put some effort into the comments but alas it seemed that I was crossing some housekeeping by the BBC IT people and squandered valuable time in wrirint and wondring what was going on.

IT people, would you mind giving some advance warning that you are about to do some work on the comments section on this site?

I do not have time to redo it. However it was headed;

SMELL THE MASS MEDIA FEAR.

The bottom line is that no controlled main stream mass media organisation has reported to the public, to my knowledge, the Niells Harrit paper on the finding of the nano-thermitic residue and the molten metal spheres in the WTC dust. In adition, the paper has not been put up for balanced discussion and debate. The only mass media interviews with Harrit have been a few short efforts by Danish and Russia Today.

In those circumstances one must ask why not? I went into some detail on that and posed some questions for our absent Mike. They are not repeated here.

The absence of reporting suggest that 'our freedoms', our 'way of life' etc, are just an illusion choreographed for the ultimate purposes of those who manipulate the lying media, be it that sections of the media have their snouts firmly entenched in the public fiscal trough and they owe the public at least due diligenec in their function of reporting the news and the deseminating of information fairly.

The test to determine whether a media entity and its employees are genuine is in the manner that they have reported (not) on the 9/11 questions and mysteries.

If they fail the above test then their credibility in regard to other significant matters is shot to pieces.

Pity.

Oh well, seems that the dead parrot society has tagged another member whilst the other gets a rest.
Caught up in a conspiracy theory 11:43pm on 11 Oct 2009 Poor Tom at 5450 wonders whether Alex Jones writes my comments. I can undoubtedly say 'no', I do not listen to Alex Jones and only occasionally peruse his site. Drew a blank there Tom.

Tom, thank you for your 'thoughtfull' response to my comment/s. They truly do a dead parrot proud, but then again, to be expected. How are you going with the Heidner thesis'? Sorry I should not have asked, you ignore me and we know why.

So Tom has gone to the great aviary in the sky, no worries we can avercome our greiving and soldier on.

Now this might have some legs. Over at whatreallyhappened.com for 11th October at 6.32 there is a video of some persons who are reported as being living in the Towers and doing some work there. I did not get the full name of the interviewee but it is 'Jonathon xxxxxxx'.

He has nice piccies of those in the towers and is going to do a full interview, I think next week. 'Jonathon' is reported to have written/produced the 'Core of Corrruption'. I do not know anyhting about him.

In the meantime, perhaps people could view the pictures of the relevant people and try and identify them. It will be interesting if they sold art works on the side.

Ynda at 5451 demonstrates an excellent use of his/her time. Would it be possible to send that to our absent Mr. Rudin to seek his response? I do not think we would even get a 'squark' out of him but it would be good to get it on to the official correspondence record.
Caught up in a conspiracy theory 05:14am on 11 Oct 2009 moria 5446.

Aw schucks! Tom and Carl do not know what team they are playing for?

Are you serious? They know, they know that they are playing with the Bubbas and Dicks team. It is known as the 'half brain, dead parrots society'.

I really do hope they are geting paid enough, hate to see people being suckered and not properly paid!

One thing for sure is that the BBC knows what team it is playing for, be good if it let Mike know who! Mike might then have some reflections to consider.

Come on out Mike with a few reflections, you know the score. At least all the ex journos that I know do, that's why they are 'ex journos'.

And Good afternoon to all.
Caught up in a conspiracy theory 01:50am on 11 Oct 2009 5403 SJ.

I will endorse your comments there SJ. The BBC one day will have a lot of questions to answer in regard to it's 'being caught up in a conspiracy theory'.

Mr Michael Rudin hopefully, one day will be required to account for his productions, his failure to follow up and his failures generelly to update his conclusions in his programs with the evolving scientific studies and analysis in to the manner of destruction of the three WTC buildings. The BBC's apparent policy of leaving the licence paying viewers of the BBC in the UK deceived is one aspect that those running the BBC will have to address in due course.

The firewalls are collapsing around those who instigated the 9/111 mass murders.

The first firewall was; 'terrorists who hate us for our freedoms and way of life'.

The second: 19 alleged Muslim Arabs who all died in the attacks. Yea, well we know that is rubbish.

The third firewall was the "Shock Awe and Gore" of the murders and the collapsing buildings all caused due to aircraft and fire damage. Well we know that is rubbish.

The fourth firewall was public anguish and outrage that was created and that knocked up the Bush ratings and gave the US the distraction of the war on terror and falsely based 'patriotic fervour'. Worked for awhile!

The fifth firewall was the concoction to get 'those responsible' by going and killing and to conquer places that were not responsible for 9/11. Now that has ended up in a quagmire, really brilliant manouvre US.

The 6th firewall was the planned and orchestrated campaign by the government warmongers and controlled masss media whoremongers with 'weapombs' of masss deception to deride, ridicule and scoff at anyone who started to ask questions about what really happened that day and who really did it. Well we know that is not working.

The seventh firewall is the campaign to actively suppress information and analysis of what has been discovered in the last 8 years. They are still trying, but damm, that pesky internet is a problem for the Ruperts and the Murdochracies and others..like the BBC, Ha! BBC.

The eighth firewall is to obfuscate and actively delay further public knowledge and support for a new investigation as has happened the other day with NYCAN. That is failing with the pathetic debunking scenarios campaigning on the internet as demonstrated by teams of misinformation traitiors obfuscating as demonstrated amongst these comments. So much effort to prevent questions and further inquiry!

The ninth firewall is the 9/11 Commissioner's attempts to protect their buttocks with the "we know the government lied" scenario. But, that was understood as a lie to protect the US defence network integrity due to a system break down whose fault cannot be levelled at anyone. Indeed, some promotions were in order. (I have Farmer's book now, matter of time to read it but he simply says that they were lied to by goverment bodies) Now that is not going to work, lies merely make it likely that there are more lies skuling under the heap. People will scrath away like chooks looking for the big fat worm they knwo is there.

It must be clear to any Tom, Dick, Harry or even a poor Carl that once someone is caught out lying then the whole story then becomes 'sus'. In the surrounding circumstances that "sus" is demonstrable to the most simple minded dead parrot with half a brain. Evem the average chook would know there is something underneath.

The tenth firewall is next up. What it will be is going to be interesting? Social and economic collapse justifying the complete loss of our freedoms and way of life that we are hated for? How ironic, at least they will not hate us anymore, they might feel sorry for us?

How about, another concocted war and a call to patriotic duty that requires complete subordination of the people to the anonymous authority.

Hey, Carls, Toms, Bubbas and Dicks, that sounds OK does it not, suit many. They can run around with brown shirts gathering those 'Twoofers' up. Paradise! No more nosey scientists and concerned public asking difficult questions. Now where have I heard of that scenario before?

What ever the tenth firewall may be it will be to protect the real unpatriotic culprits (probably, from London/Europe, Tom and Carl; sucked in eh?)who run the financial lifeline and their traitorous people and organisations that give them aid, comfort and PROTECTION.

Now how is everyone going with their analysis of the E Heidner papers on the 9/11 collateral damage (two papers) and the 381 page 'E. Heidner 9/11 Commission report revised December 2008'?

When the last firewall is breached and the scum behind it are overturned then we will be in interesting times I suspect.

Been a pleasure most BBC staff, can't say the same for all, but at least with a good read of this thread, then you would have a fair idea as to what has to be done to protect your freedoms and way of life for you and your descendants and it ain't in fighting Arabs and more warmongering killing for those who finance war and military expenditure.

Eisenhower warned us of this in his departure speech, it is nothing new, but when they start murdering their own people en mass, then it is time to say ..............(well what would any blue blooded man say?)

JFK also said something to the effect; that when peacefull revolution is preventedsd then violent revolution is inevitable.

It is a pity that more citizens of the US do not look back at some of the words of wisdom from their past leaders, if they did they may have avoided being in the monstrous poo that they are now in. I particulaly refer to, I think Jefferson; who was reported as saying that when the private bankers get their greedy mits on the currency system then the citizens of the US will end up with nothing. Hey carl and Tom, did you know that, that happened over Christmas eve in 1913 and was signed off by President Wilson. (read; Edward [Edwin?] Griffin's book; 'The Creature from Jekyl Island')

For an interesting lecture on your poor plight Tom and Carl, have a look at teh Chris Martenson lectures. Do not have the referenec, but you will find it we all know that you have a great ineffectual brains trust as back up?

Carl and Tom: all your time spent and bleating on this thread has distracted you from the main game: the total and deliberate planned collapse of the US empire. One method, as used against the USSR is to send you broke fighting war end on end for other people's and entities interests.

Sorry sunshines, maybe one day the sun will actually shine on you, best of luck. I still wonder whether you are really US citizens and whether your research team/s is/are also American/s, all seems 'sus' to me, damm 'SUS'.

"CAUGHT UP IN A CONSPIRACY THEORY", BBC? SURE ARE, TO BE SURE, TO BE SURE!
Caught up in a conspiracy theory 05:28am on 06 Oct 2009 5190 Carl.

Hey Carl, for your parrot mind let me say this. I do not know who did 9/11, but it must have been by or with the assistance of traitors in your Government's administration, it is not a matter, that the 'US government did it', or whether they are smart or otherwise.

The reasoning behind that belief has been debated ad nauseum above.

I do not believe that your government is/was incapable of planting wmds anywhere, it just so happens that none were found for whatever reason. Part of the explantaion can be found in the Downing Street memos.

So I am ill equipped to discuss this or any other subject. Aw shucks, hey Carl I am going to, no matter what you say.

So you will contine to ignore me, fair enough, matter for nothing has changed in that regard. At least I have something in common with all the others, whose points you ignore as a matter of course.

Besides, you have no choice but to ignore most of what is said here since you are not prepared to concede that the three buildings were 'blown up' as that would mean that your litle parrot conspircay theory about 19 Arabs is just digested passed birdseed.

Indeed, you appear and behave as if terrified that so many people are comming in on a tide of truth and facts, which they are, you know it and there is naught you can do about it.

Then again, they could 'pull it' off with another false falg 9/11 like event but a bigger one, maybe a few stray nuclear bombs in suitcases or something similar, then they will really have the ignorant scared enough to do what ever the government wants.

Could be better, they could blame it on Iran and then 'whoooooppee' more Shock, Awe and Gore for you entertaiment brought to you by your controlled mass media to your loungeroom.
Caught up in a conspiracy theory 00:34am on 06 Oct 2009 5187 Carl.

Carl I normally do not take any notice of your comments but really your concern over your 'tax dollars' just cannot be ignored.

It is probably the funniest thing that you have said here and very black.

Carl dear fellow; there was not supposed to be any investigation into 9/11 as the operation was planned as a false flag mass murder to be blamed on some muslims and to justify killing and attempted conquest and theft.

The US Government (and other governments) were then able to use the event with the complicit support of the mass media with their weapons of mass deception (Hi Mike! You listening?) to garner public support to fight "A war on terrorism". They then went into Afghanistan (are still there for long time yet) they then 'sexed up' some intelligence report per your good friend Mr. Balir and concluded that Iraq had wmds, then they went into Iraq. Thye even falsified some report out of somewhere about aluminium tubes etc. You know, then one of your CIA people was outed by your governemtn people beacuse her husband did not 'go with the flow' so to speak.

Well Carl, you should know the story, How much in debt is the US due to the wars? Where have your tax dollars gone, How many soldiers are dead and wounded, many commiting suicide at home? How many dead Iraqis, including children?

Disgusting evil pedaphiles nornmally do not; kill children, maime them orphan them and destroy their families and homes just to steal their expected inheritances. But that is of no concern for warmongers is it Carl? Yea, right suicide bombers are evil too. Indeed they are, but one thing is a problem, they are prepard to die whilst warmongers send others to do it for them and do it in a big big way with big big explosives.

Some say that you will be in afghanistan for 40 years.

All this killing in Afghanistan, because the deal that the US wanted to have with the Taliban, yep with those h'mmmm;..... not nice people, for an oil pipeline that was not agreed upon by the Taliban.

Have you found your weapons of mass destruction yet Carl? Ahhh, we know they are now in Iran so let's go bomb them eh? Can't have those Iranians dealing oil deals in Euros now can we? Your 'tax" dollasr will be 'cappooot' and you will not be ale to buy anything with it if that happens.

One day Carl they might actually find the weapons of mass destruction in the Middle East. Actually, if your government paid me enough I wil tell then where they are, been there all along.

So you do not want to pay for a new investigation, well Carl that is going to be a very very expensive policy and might even end up in the destruction of your country as a former acivilised member of the world of nations.

Come to think of it Carl (and Tom) I really have trouble accepting that you are US citizens of if you are, whether you genuinely have the interests of your county in mind.

Carl, you cannot afford not to have a proper investigation into 9/11, the future of your country depends on ridding it of the cancers rotting your upper levels of governmet, that is taking way your freedoms and way of life, bit by bit.

Yep, Carl funniest thing you have said here on the BBC, I am still laughing, I love black humour. Actually today, here on radio they were celebrating the Monty Python Flying Circus anniversay (40 years?). Loved it, you should seek to bring it back, after all you really are the poor dead parrot that was not dead!
Caught up in a conspiracy theory 00:06am on 01 Oct 2009 5001 Plectic.

Good to see you are still lurking around. I have read all the Heidner papers that you referred to some time ago and from memory you said the destruction of (and/or debate about)the buidlings was a distraction. If you note my comments (search malleestunp bbc editors) you will note that the Heidner reference to the Nugan Hand Bank and those concerned rings a bell here in Sydney. It seems that Heidner did not know about Murrray Farqhur and the chages laid aginst him fo a conspiracy to steal Philipines' gold bullion treasury. (ex Chief NSW magistrate deceased)

Whenever I refer to or link the E. Heidner papers the comments seem to increase in frequency and the Heidner topic is buried underneath way back.
By the way your 'plectic' link does not seem to work and we have to go to the scrbd (?) site. Any other links around?

Interesting, that your appearance here at 5001 is quickly followed by 27 comments, only one of which, on a quick perusal, takes up your observations.

I was aware of the 'Angel" reports some years back and of course their are many mysteries about that day that the media are frightened of or have been directed not to examine.

You will see from the comments that we have our regular disinfo' agents slithering about apparently doing exactly what you mentioned. i.e. using the debate about the towers as a distraction from trying to discover what really happened and who did it.

I had asked our resident 'TOM' if he knew who Heidner was and have had no answer that I can discern. (I don't read much of 'team Tom's' work)

So, are you able to provide any light on Heidner and if so what is it?

Generally I note that no one in the controlled mass media will debate Sheen when some rules of fairness are put in play.

Now Mike and BBC this is a great opportunity to do something usefull. Debate Sheen Mike. Bet you won't. Bet your not game to put your head up against Sheen. After all, he is reported to be just some fool and up against your intellectual investigative brilliance, you would make mince meat of him, now would't you?

Allright Mike, just stick to scoffing at a couple of kids sounding off as referred to and seen in your article herein, that's easy is it not?

iOops! Better stop, the mods might be getting uneasy. But Mike you know how highly regarded you are by us, for if were not for you there might be no debate..thanks.

Stick around Plectic, it is going to be interseting if the NYCAN people get up.

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