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Listed below are comments made by dasdog between Wednesday, 11th June 2008 and Friday, 20th June 2008.

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Ireland questions EU course 5:18pm on 20 Jun 2008 @ Dagonz (post 50)

hehe....not exactly

But there was cause for the latter (careful now) seeing electoral decisions being rebuffed. Plus I have to say, some unsavoury comments with regard to hidden agendas (Giscard D'Estaing) but that was lower down my concern list.
Ireland questions EU course 4:46pm on 20 Jun 2008 @ Schrodi (post 42)

"Support for our continuing membership of the EU remains extremely high at 89% of all voters. Astonishingly, even 80% of the no side think we should stay in the Union."

As a No voter I was and still am pro-European. The reason for my No was not so much the main points of the treaty content, although I did have reservations about Sarkozy implementing an export tax post ratification (this was my selfish reasoning) - it was more the fact that previous electorate had been ignored and the electorate of other member states had no opinion. Also, when it was and is plainly obvious that the UK would have been passing this treaty when the general populous are Eurosceptics. This last point flies in the face of reason and can only lead to trouble down the line.
Lisbon: A hard sell 11:02am on 13 Jun 2008 "Public opinion will be led to adopt, without knowing it, the proposals that we dare not present to them directly ...."
- V.Giscard D'Estaing, 14 June 2007

An ambiguous document was presented to us which was previously rejected by two member states repackaged with a new name and with 10/250 articles amended. I gave this vote more thought than any other referendum I have participated in. I slept with a clear conscience last night.
Irish PM: 'No' would kill Lisbon 12:05pm on 11 Jun 2008 @lacerniagigante (post 176)

By your reasoning democracy can now be surmised in the case of a referendum as people are :

Vote one way and there will be no punishment

OR

Vote the opposite way and you will incur punishment

...because voters do not have the capacity to arrive at logical decisions. Bernard Kouchner's recent comment inferred this also and the strategy has backfired on him. Ireland needs to be part of a harmonious EU. Ireland also needs a good relationship with the US. The states that make up the EU need their respective referendums. Ignoring the wishes of the French/Dutch voters was nothing short of undemocratic and this is the reason l will be voting No.

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