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Listed below are comments made by Jackturk between Monday, 24th August 2009 and Monday, 26th October 2009.

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Nick Griffin on Question Time 2:59pm on 26 Oct 2009 To Gavin Allen: Please will you publish the regulations which state that the BBC must invite the BNP to appear on Question Time.
Nick Griffin on Question Time 2:08pm on 25 Oct 2009 I have attended a QT show and the audience absolutely does not drive the debate, it is driven by the chair and the producers. Prior to the show, everyone is asked to submit three questions on a card and the producers then choose which of those are put to the panel. They say they do it based upon the number of suggestions on each subject but surely the most democratic way would be to ask for questions directly from the audience.

Most people I guess believe that they live in a democracy but that is questionable, for example, who chooses which candidates we get to vote for? QT is no exception, if you look on their web site they invite suggestions for panel members, those suggestions are mostely ignored unless of course they chime with the producers agenda.
Nick Griffin on Question Time 12:29pm on 25 Oct 2009 To the BNP supporters; on QT Griffin was treated in exactly the same way as anyone else would be who held such abhorrent views. In fact, he got off extremely lightly because of the failure of the lightweight panel.

To those who say that they are not BNP supporters but have sympathy with some of their policies, please do not let the SUN and the DAILY MAIL do your thinking for you. Do your own research and discover that the BNP has a point of view based solely on racism and not on anything that could be remotely classed as sensible or ethical.

If you still have any doubts, consider this; if the BNP is correct in it's view of racial separation, then Mugabe is also correct to expel white farmers from Zimbabwe, apartheid was correct in South Africa and segregation was acceptable in the USA. Are those the primitive societies you want? if so join the BNP and campaign openly for it.

The problem with agreeing even in the slightest with the BNP is that certainly the Tories and also the spineless New Labour government will, in order to pacify the righ-wingers, introduce more laws and practices as we have already seen, which cause untold hurt to families when they are split up to satisfy the baying racists.
Nick Griffin on Question Time 01:10am on 25 Oct 2009 165 SONICBOOMER, good post, I'm pleased I stayed up long enough to read it.

To the Moderator: Your moderation is becoming tiresome, I look forward to a convincing explanation as to why you are censoring my posts.
Nick Griffin on Question Time 11:39pm on 24 Oct 2009 139. At 10:31pm on 24 Oct 2009, MiggyCraig wrote:

"How many people would need to vote for the BNP before their views are accepted as mainstream? There must be a point where the "group within society" as someone called them, grow to be the main political viewpoint, at which time they become "mainstream"."

You make a good point, but if like me, you think that the BNP's policies are so objectionable and harmful to society, surely it's better that they don't become 'mainstream' through ignorance.

I have no objection to Griffin and his followers being questioned in a public forum, my objection is that to anyone who does not know his background, and that seems to apply to many here, an appearance on QT was conferring upon him some sort of respectability.

Incidentally, I hope that you told Leeds City Council where to go and ignored their 'advice'. However, there are many stories about people being told not to do this or that for fear of offending muslims, often spread by the right-wing press, and when investigated they are found to be untrue.
Nick Griffin on Question Time 9:43pm on 24 Oct 2009 One of the results of having the two main political parties so close together on the right is that it gives the 'man in the street' very little choice when it comes to where he should place his vote and it's in this situation that parties like the BNP seize the opportunity to exploit it.

The only voice that can speak out for the population in general is one from the left, but as is happening now in the USA where unbelievably the multi-billion dollar insurance companies and their multi-million dollar earning bosses have persuaded a large section of the population that state funded health care is not good for them, we have the Murdock lead press here extolling the virtues of right wing policies.

The BBC has become complicit in this for fear of upsetting their paymasters. I have read on various blogs the BBC being described as 'leftist' or 'liberal' nothing could be further from the truth. This must delight them because to some extent it masks their right wing establishment bias as seen on QT and Any Questions week after week.

I challenge anyone, and this would make a good exercise for a neutral political study, to examine the panels on these shows for say the last five years, or at least since Mentorn took over the production, and not come to the conclusion that they are overloaded with right wing spokespeople.

Question Time is supposed to represent a cross section of British politics yet time after time there is no representation from the left. Someone in Mentorn, or whoever chooses the guests, is determined that the left hardly ever gets a voice. The panel will often consist of a Lib Dem, a Tory, a right wing businessman, a right wing journalist, a right wing author or historian and a right wing New Labour spokesperson who because they voted in favour of the attack on Iraq could in no way be considered to be on the left.

This weeks panel was no exception, we had Straw - right wing New Labour, Varsi - right wing Tory and Griffin extreme right wing BNP.

Is it any wonder there is so much frustration with politicians amongst the general population?
Nick Griffin on Question Time 2:27pm on 24 Oct 2009 To the moderator; there is nothing in this post that contravenes the BBC guidelines so please do not sensor it as you have done with my post no.55.

The fact that Griffin has one or two million supporters should have had no bearing upon whether or not he should have appeared on QT.

For all we know, there could be two million people who support paedophilia but should we allow someone who champions those views the opportunity to seek further support on a respectable platform?

What was the purpose of allowing Griffin on to the panel? If it was to see his views challenged, does anyone think he would change those views one iota? If it was to 'out him' to the electorate and thereby reduce his support, it's probably safe to say that it has had the opposite effect.

Griffin's appearance on QT has, as predicted, only acted as a focus for all those 'non-racist' racists who were itching to imbue themselves with a modicum of respectability.

The point is that to give Griffin his 'democratic right' could only and has only assisted in the growth of the BNP, therefore are the BBC satisfied it was a price worth paying?

Another own goal for Mark Thompson, it really is about time he was replaced, he along with others at the BBC seem to have no idea of the consequences of their decisions.
Nick Griffin on Question Time 1:54pm on 24 Oct 2009 The fact that Griffin has one or two million supporters should have had no bearing upon whether or not he should have appeared on QT.

For all we know, there could be two million people who support paedophilia but should we allow someone who champions those views the right to seek further support on a respectable platform?

What was the purpose of allowing Griffin on to the panel? If it was to see his views challenged, does anyone think he would change those views one iota? If it was to 'out him' to the electorate and thereby reduce his support, it's probably safe to say that it has had the opposite effect.

Griffin's appearance on QT has, as predicted, only acted as a focus for all those 'non-racist' racists who were itching to imbue themselves with a modicum of respectability.

The point is that to give Griffin his 'democratic right' could only and has only assisted in the growth of the BNP, therefore are the BBC satisfied it was a price worth paying?

Another own goal for Mark Thompson, it really is about time he was replaced, he along with others at the BBC seem to have no idea of the consequences of their decisions.
Blair for President? 3:30pm on 02 Oct 2009 That Blair has got the brass neck to think that he should even be considered for EU President is indicative of his arrogance. There are some here who don't give two hoots that he, along with Bush, caused the deaths of over a million innocent Iraqis.

I do agree however that had the Tories been in power they would have done exactly the same, the "quiet man" was even more eager to inflict murder and mayhem on Iraq than was Bair - if that was possible.

Even Kennedy prevaricated until he saw which way the invasion was going.

Blair is a disgrace to this country and the appalling prospect of having him represent us as Europeans to the rest of the world is a sick joke
Can Brown stay silent? 3:15pm on 24 Aug 2009

We know from Brown's 'support' for Blair that he is a coward when it comes to putting himself on the line, so congratulations to Kenny MacAskill for having the courage to ignore the American pressure. We also know from the past that America is more interested in revenge than justice, witnessed by their attempts to medicate mentally ill people, who have been condemned to death, back to temporary normallity just so as to execute them.

There is and was sufficient doubt in the case of Megrahi, as noted by Nelson Mandela and some of the Lockerbie families, to allow him a re-trial and give the families justice by finding the true perpetrators of the bombing. The only problem is that because of his illness, Megrahi would probably be dead before any re-trial took place.

Israel slaughtered nearly 1500 men women and children recently in Gaza and caused over 10 billion dollars in damage and is still killing and imprisoning Palestinians, where is the outrage from America about this? their cant and hypocrisy stink.

'Scotland' has shown the lead and probably engendered more good will in the Arab world than anything president Obama has done or said since he came into office.

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