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Listed below are comments made by peterJhenderson between Tuesday, 3rd November 2009 and Wednesday, 25th November 2009.

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The Great Tennessee Monkey Trial 4:17pm on 25 Nov 2009 people are being led into serious error by people who, frankly, are *stupid* and *ignorant*. Harsh words? Yes, perhaps. But they are certainly justified

But neither the Rev. Greer or Prof. Nevin for example, could be called stupid or ignorant of science Helio/Peter. Both are well qualified and have worked in the scientific field. It's that which makes their claims plausable to the lay person.
The Great Tennessee Monkey Trial 11:57am on 25 Nov 2009 My minister let slip that he was YEC; and then was falling over himself the next week to reassure everyone that it wasn't an issue he'd hold strong opinions on.

I've had excactly the same experience Graham.

However, AiG/CMI are dogmatic on the issue. Why then, are the Presbyterian Church in Ireland allowing their ministers to host the speakers from both these organisations ? From the AiG Satement of faith:

The gap theory has no basis in Scripture.

By definition, no apparent, perceived or claimed evidence in any field, including history and chronology, can be valid if it contradicts the scriptural record. Of primary importance is the fact that evidence is always subject to interpretation by fallible people who do not possess all information.

The above statements would contradict the church's position on science. Certainly from what I've been told by Stephen Lynas.

Now if the Ministers were aggressive Ken Hammish YECs, that would be a different

but you've forgotton about the Rev. Robin Greer Graham. The Rev. Greer was a speaker with AiG for a year or so and is now an associate speaker with CMI. I've heard his talks and he definitely doesn't accept other viewponts. I just wonder what he says to members of his congregation with views like mine.
The Great Tennessee Monkey Trial 11:25pm on 24 Nov 2009 The historian of ideas David Livingstone was my guest in the studio today. He will be giving a lecture tomorrow night (at 7.30 p.m. in Fitzroy Presbyterian Church).

I wonder if any of the YECs that seem to be so prevalent within the ranks of the Presbyterian Church in Ireland were there ?

The Presbyterian Church appears to be riddled with YECism these days, and I would imagine a majority of ministers within the denomination are YEC (have any surveys been done on this ?). Just as an example, Dr. Monty White (former CEO of AiG (UK)) spoke at Belfast City Mission,the church's outreach arm, a couple of years ago. Though the official line isn't YEC and they allow for different views (their press officer, Stephen Lynas has told me this), that isn't what is reflected in reality. The denomination is the only one of the four main churches here that hosts AiG/CMI talks.
Don't label me ... 7:34pm on 20 Nov 2009 It is wrong, therefore, to have a child labelled as ‘Christian’, ‘Muslim’, ‘Protestant’, ‘Catholic’, ‘Humanist’, or whatever.

Indeed Brian, you probably would be labeled a Humanist, Atheist, or Agnostic. Really, I think in Norn Iron it's impossible not to have some sort of label. If it wasn't religion then it would be race. If it wasn't race then it would be physical characteristiacs i.e. shorty, lanky, fatso, etc. That's just a fact of life and again it boils down to human nature (a product of evolution).
Did Christianity cause the crash? 11:55am on 16 Nov 2009 An interesting theory William.

The so called "credit crunch" was of course caused by too much and too easily available credit. however,I know of at least one church in Belfast that arranged loans with it's members in order to pay for their very elaborate new building. Is this type of thing going on in the US ? If to a large extent it is, then it certainly would have contributed to the economic downturn.
Creationist leader to visit Northern Ireland 12:21pm on 03 Nov 2009 William: Details of John McKay's visit are now on his website, amen.org. Any chance of either an interview or report ? He's in the province all week and speaks at Forestside Christian Centre tomorrow eveninf at 8.00pm.
Creationist leader to visit Northern Ireland 12:17pm on 03 Nov 2009 I give up
Creationist leader to visit Northern Ireland 12:09pm on 03 Nov 2009 I'll not be surprised if the above doesn't get through either. The mind boggles.

In the event that it doesn't, I'll post on Helio's blog and maybe he can pass the info. on to william. An interview with McKay would be interesting.
Creationist leader to visit Northern Ireland 12:07pm on 03 Nov 2009 The moderation process on this blog is absolutely pedantic. Can you not do something about this William as I do not feel that what I said broke any "house" rules.

Re. post 164. Why it was removed I have absolutely no idea.

It contains the itinerary of John McKay's visit to Northern Ireland this week. Wednesday evening McKay is speeking at Forestside Christian Centre at 8.00 pm. Any chance of either an interview or report ? He'll be in the pronce all week and full details are on his website:

http://www.amen.org.uk/cr/where/
Creationist leader to visit Northern Ireland 00:41am on 03 Nov 2009 John McKay's Norn' Iron Itinerary is now available:

Wednesday 4 Nov 7:30 PM South Belfast
Forestside Christian Centre 88 Belvoir Drive,
BT8 7FR
Contact: Sam McIlwrath
Phone: 02890-964759

Thursday 5 Nov 8:00 PM Banbridge
Banbridge Independent Methodist Huntly Road,
BT32 3BE
Contact: David Wright
Phone: 02840-626799

Friday 6 Nov 8:00 PM Enniskillen
Enniskillen Free Presbyterian Church Chanter Hill,
BT74 4BG
Contact: John Gray
Phone: 02866-324164

Saturday 7 Nov 3:00 & 8:30 PM Craigavon
Dunamis Afternoon: Conference
Evening: Young People’s Rally
Craigavon Civic Centre, Lakeview Road, BT64 1AL
Contact: David Magarry
Phone: 02892-682520

Any chance of a report or interview William ?

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