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Listed below are comments made by kleines c between Thursday, 18th June 2009 and Wednesday, 24th June 2009.

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Filming of Radio 3 Haydn Concert 08:30am on 24 Jun 2009 With BBC Radio 4's distinguished message board host, Anna, closing all my discussions about Reith on 'The Choice is Yours' message board yesterday, cping500, I probably have very little alternative but to turn away from the BBC message boards towards these blogs, the unstimulating OU 'Reith' forum, Twitter and other forms of online, and offline communication.

Indeed, Graeme, Roland and Thoroughlygood, I would say that the internet has become such a potent force for communication at the beginning of the twenty-first century, that it is bound to be controlled and even manipulated by forces far stronger than even 'Anna'.

Nevertheless, from BBC Radio 3's perspective, there is an opportunity to use such potential to bring great music, art and culture to a far wider audience. You never know, Roland. You could yet save civilisation itself!

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Filming of Radio 3 Haydn Concert 9:55pm on 22 Jun 2009 It is interesting how much you do for children and young people, Roland. Much of it, even at the proms, passes me by. Because I am no longer that much of an adolescent, apart from much of my behaviour (some of us never really grow up), I am perhaps not conscious of what BBC Radio 3 (or 4) is 'doing' for the education of present and, perhaps more importantly, future generations.

I doubt that 'Making Tracks' or 'Go4It' could work solely online, but there was a suggestion on the BBC Radio 4 message boards today that a family orientated programme, which could appeal to all ages and both sexes, might be worth exploring.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mbradio4/F2766774?thread=6691427

I suspect that this is beyond your control, Roland, but throwing up the idea to Roger Wright and Mark Damazer, I think that BBC Radio should prioritise such a development. If the BBC does not address education seriously, it is failing in its core public service mandate. It would be shame if you, and the rest of us, too, failed to take up the challenge.
More views on Haydn 2:37pm on 22 Jun 2009 I think that if classical music is going to reach a younger audience, Denis, something more interactive online makes eminent sense.

As you point out, the educational possibilities, for example, on 'Discovering Music', are exciting, but it need not be confined to advanced and graduate students.

There is no reason, in my view, why future generations might not be dancing in the street to the music of Joseph Haydn, just as previous generations have danced to Motown, Mozart and Madonna.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdvITn5cAVc

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Reith 2009 in the Twitterverse 2:17pm on 22 Jun 2009 I am relieved to read that you are a real person, lordBeddGelert. As far as Twitter is concerned, Jennifer, I feel that the BBC has to adopt a multiplatform approach if it is to break down the Digital Wall.

I am not personally particularly keen on 'Twitter', although I recognise its attractions. You cannot be omnipresent, so you inevitably select your media, including radio stations.

I am sure that if the Baron (Reith) were still alive, he would want his lectures twittered on 'Twitter', and in many other places where people talk online, and indeed, off. Cheers (late lunch)!

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Music music music 8:43pm on 21 Jun 2009 If music be the food of love, oldsepticsam, play on. As for Kathy, do not worry at all. It is the sound that counts, at least on radio. BBC Radio 4 may indeed have more catholic music tastes than Radio 3, Gregg.

Radio 3 tends to avoid 'pop', if only because so many other stations broadcast the stuff. Yet classical, jazz and world music can all, on occasion, be popular, so the distinctions between different musical genres tend to fray on the edges.

Radio 4, with its focus on speech, can take a less tribal view of music than 1, 2, 3 etc. I should perhaps confess, as a promenader, to more protestant tastes, although, on occasion, methinks we do protest too much!

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Filming of Radio 3 Haydn Concert 2:09pm on 21 Jun 2009 I would agree with maestrolover that this approach, Graeme, could have particularly interesting applications for music students, not only at advanced and degree level, but also amongst younger children, who may see classical music as something just for old people.

One of my big regrets about BBC Radio over recent years is the way in which the Controllers of R3 and R4 have both found it necessary to shelve their broadcasts to younger people. 'Making Tracks' and 'Go4It' spring to mind, even though Go4It made a belated appearance at the third Free Thinking Festival in Liverpool last year.

I guess that a juvenile approach often appeals to me, and one way to get to children is online. Perhaps you could have a go at schools with something over the summer at the BBC Proms. I always try and get some young people into the Arena with me, and it would be great if Roger, Roland, Thoroughlygood et al could come up with something interactive, and compelling, online.

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Filming of Radio 3 Haydn Concert 09:12am on 20 Jun 2009 Your links are very impressive, Roland. You might also want to consider taking lunch with the FT today, as Sir Simon Rattle cooks the FT's Music Critic, Andrew Clark, a cold shoulder (of lamb) before the twilight of the gods.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/fb4b5fe8-5c52-11de-aea3-00144feabdc0.html

Returning Paul quotes 'Orchestral manoeuvres on the web' directly from this weekend's 'Lunch with the FT' article in french frank's 'Performance' messageboard discussion thread, Roland. I suspect that the BBC Proms, Performance on 3 and radio are about to enter a new world of online filming, and it is good to see you leading the way on BBC Radio 3. Thoroughlygood, too! All the best, c.
Filming of Radio 3 Haydn Concert 5:43pm on 19 Jun 2009 Curiously, I do quite like watching 'In Tune' on flickr, ThoroughlyGood, so a video would be an interesting development of Sean in action.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/bbcradio3intune/

Of course, with video, you really want to capture the dramatic potential of an image, and you may be right. Choral Evensong, even from New College Oxford, may not be quite dramatic enough.

As for Britten, this is a good idea, although as the rights issue would, without prejudice, be a nightmare, I would suggest that we do something original in the legendary 'Nag's Boudoir' instead.

As french frank pointed out in her initial comment, we have been discussing all this on the 'Performance' messageboard, too.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mbradio3/F7497567?thread=6689718&latest=1

The consensus, if you want one, Graeme, is that you've got a runner.

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Filming of Radio 3 Haydn Concert 10:43am on 19 Jun 2009 I don't think that you are going to win any Oscars with your filming of the Proms this summer, Graeme.

Nevertheless, as something of a promenader myself, I have always found that being in the Arena, watching on television (or online) and listening on the radio, are three very different experiences (of the same concert), with increasing levels of abstraction, and that the 'live' promenading experience experience is not necessarily better than any other. There might be all sorts of complicating factors.

Nevertheless, it can be interesting for the blogger to explore what is going on, so to speak, so the best bet, in my view, is to make such 'visualisations' online as interactive as possible, even if french frank never makes the legendary Nag's Head. Cheers!

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Music music music 7:25pm on 18 Jun 2009 As a Radio 3 listener, messageboarder and promenader, I would like to add that Roland did a pretty good job with the Ukulele, Steve, even if 'Ode to Joy' sounds better with a full orchestra, whether BBC or other (the Berliners aren't bad, even if they Rattle).

Nevertheless, as you know, Steve, I do occasionally listen to Radio 4 (Reith, for example), so if you want to join us at the legendary Nag's Head (or indeed, prom 45), please all feel free. As for music, Radio 3 is probably slightly more musical than Radio 4, although who, do you feel, has the most catholic tastes?

Cheers! c.

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