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Listed below are comments made by Neocromwellian between Tuesday, 24th November 2009 (22 Hours Ago) and Wednesday, 25th November 2009 (35 Minutes Ago) .

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The morning after ... 12:02pm on 25 Nov 2009
# 5 thegnatswatter said..

I hope Peter Hain will clarify and reassure Labour members of their future intentions so that we know where we stand and can take our vote
and support elsewhere should we see fit.

We need to get the tactical voting organised!
The morning after ... 11:11am on 25 Nov 2009
The Tail has WAGged the Dog - Hence the "Rhodri Wriggle"!

#3 I agree with this bit

Lets hope the Labour Party (The part which is Unionist and not King Rhodri part) destroys this sham of a Government and stands on its own,rather than rely on PC,the separatist and isolationist gang.

But it does not go far enough, we need people who will shine the light of transparency and re-empower communities over the way their money is spent and decisions that affect their lives.
Points and punchlines 10:23am on 25 Nov 2009
#15 Correction

You are just lashing out with Your Prejudice and Your Sadness not mine. Believing what the WAG, Assembly or these AM's tell you is called the 'Barnum Effect' after the circus owner P T Barnum who coined the phrase 'there's one born every minute'. Should read

"There's a sucker born every minute"

I apologise for the error.
Points and punchlines 10:07am on 25 Nov 2009
Abusing positions of status and trust to conceal wrongdoing and then accusing people who attempt to bring such hypocrisy to light of groundless smears, is classic behaviour of the high born English, and something that I loathe and detest.

Its only groundless because of the abuse of power in concealing what is really going. What is worse is that the victim gets the blame.

I had had hoped that in the 21st century we could move on from the vilest of Victorian hypocrisy in the way we are governed.

We need reform and not replace one bunch of self serving hypocrites with another pretending to be 'on your side'!
Points and punchlines 09:51am on 25 Nov 2009
#14

Not groundless smears but statements of fact which I would love to prove but the err WAG and assembly are obstructing it!

That's why we the people need reform and open government and why the WAG and assembly are doing their best to oppose it.

You are just lashing out with Your Prejudice and Your Sadness not mine. Believing what the WAG, Assembly or these AM's tell you is called the 'Barnum Effect' after the circus owner P T Barnum who coined the phrase 'there's one born every minute'.
Points and punchlines 08:41am on 25 Nov 2009
#11

Concealment of loans to banks is outrageous, concealment of corruption and institutionalised abuse in our institutions is something different.

That is the difference between Westminster and Cardiff and if you cannot see that then God help us because the Church is not going to!
Points and punchlines 08:08am on 25 Nov 2009
Tools to do the Job!

Just seen Helen Mary Jones on BBC Wales News claiming they promised to to deliver for the people of Wales and talking about the tools to do the job.

So what are you delivering? certainly nothing to complaining constituents claims to be quote 'On Your Side' are a sick joke.

What tools do they need to sort out the financial crises in higher education? The answer is none, us serfs have been banned from being able to make any complaint and we are excluded from any form of consultation regarding provision and standards.

What tools do they need to inquire into the claim by a health chief that there is 1 Billion pounds of our money being misspent on the health service? The Health Minister was asked if there was going to be an inquiry and the answer was NO. What tools or more powers does she need to say yes!

I am at a total loss as to how more powers is going to address these issues, unless of course you 'need the tools' to extend the ban on public accountability on higher education and the health service into other areas of our lives.
Points and punchlines 07:22am on 25 Nov 2009
#7 An Option to Get Rid of the Assembly within a Referendum.

I agree, and while I am all for power to the people we are being ignored if issues show that the WAG or assembly is at best ineffective and at worse hiding the truth of what is going on, they have become masters of deception.

Putting this into context, the political consensus at Westminster is now recognised at being the main cause of social injustice, and while that is bad enough we have a double whammy of the assembly and devolution.

There is evidence that the Assembly is deliberately hiding their failures at the same time as feeding the public spin doctored good news stories to gain more powers and some would say this is how they would achieve independence by stealth. They are more concerned with popularity contests than the serious job of running a country.

The result is that people will seek solutions outside the normal 'democratic' process or mainstream political parties, or vote with their feet and move somewhere else. We may see the start of a migration of English speaking peoples outside of Wales, and while there are some who will cheer at this the standard of essential services will decline and running costs to the English taxpayer will increase. Some say that an independent Wales would be subsidised by Europe, I do not think they are that stupid.

That is why I am advocating partition for those who would wish to opt out of any future independent Wales, but things are so appalling that an opt out of more powers needs to be considered with Welsh counties or designated areas being directly controlled by Westminster.

It also explains why I have made a peoples petition to force AM's to address issues raised by their constituents for whom they were elected to serve, and not the direct pursuit of more power for themselves at the expense of our personal freedoms.

Unlike what some would have you believe the two go together, we need reform and more accountability to us the voter and taxpayer, not more powers to a ruling elite. Moreover, as some have pointed out we need to be treated with a bit more respect than an illegal immigrant.

Regarding Peter Hain I too have concerns and criticisms, but I can safely say he is not concerned about popularity contests so lets wait and see what he does!
Points and punchlines 8:29pm on 24 Nov 2009
Points and Punchlines

'Point'

I am not a politico just Joe Public having my say and I am astounded by the conduct of the political classes, with the expenses scandal seemingly over they seem to have learned nothing.

There is the old saying that:

”moral indignation purges the self righteous of their own sins and feeling of being unworthy.”

On the blog we have comments such as

”Hain's trickery

Who ever believed that these could be trusted?

IWJ stood his ground and Labour blinked first

I have no doubt in my mind whatsoever that Plaid members would walk over such betrayal by Labour.

the real troublemaker here is a cetain MP for Neath

No one likes him or has a good word to say about him except the labour toadies.

It's in Labour's court now. Let's see how honourable they are. Or will it be another example of a British party going back on their word.

More Hain mischief making,

It is, say Plaid, a "serious breach of trust" and "completely unacceptable"

It's Plaid that's thrown their toys out of the window Nerys Evans has just threatened Rhodri Morgan that they (Plaid) will not allow Labour (the senior partner) to drag their feet on the timing of the referendum.”

This one takes the biscuit

“Again its party first and nation second.”

Err excuse me but AM’s and MP’s are elected to serve their constituents who come first everything else comes second. When the politicians and their cronies respond in the same way in keeping with the job they were elected to do on behalf of their constituents, then perhaps they just might regain some respect.

There is an answer to this situation and its called a Peoples Petition that has been approved by the clerks and will be published soon and here it is.

Recall of Assembly Members
We call upon the National Assembly for Wales to urge the Assembly Commission to introduce a system of Recall for Assembly Members for failing in their public duty in any public office, or towards their constituents.

Supporting info
A measure is needed to address growing public discontent with elected representatives ignoring the issues raised by their constituents. The result is that they may turn to more extremist parties. Worse still the public may feel that direct action and confrontation is the only way to draw attention to injustice and abuse of power by public funded institutions. A Recall for AM’s needs to include a system whereby correspondence and records of meetings between constituents and AM’s are maintained for future accountability. This in turn will incur an expenditure that needs to be closely monitored. Issues that arise that are outside the jurisdiction of the Assembly should be published for future requests for LCO’s to bring about reform and positive social change.

'Punchline'

Do you think there is going to be a similar argument and moral outrage from AM’s to get this legislation on the statute book?
No rush, lads 3:07pm on 24 Nov 2009
#4 TheStonemason

One opinion poll maybe a fluke but

The General Election Is Not Yet Decided

"The Ipsos MORI survey for the Observer, which will cause alarm in Tory ranks and boost Labour's hope of performing a "great escape", puts the Conservatives on 37%, only six points ahead of Labour on 31%. The Liberal Democrats are on 17%."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/nov/22/tory-lead-falls-mori-poll

A Conservative, Labour and possibly LibDem would make a good coalition particularly as I think there will be a hung Parliament that will increase scrutiny into standards and value for money.

Hopefully laws that have been introduced by the assembly to prevent us serfs from doing that will be repealed. Giving more powers to an assembly to conceal more of their incompetence is not a priority.

You are right "proper scrutiny of Standards" does relate to education. The reason why I say that is because a number of institutions are being scrutinised from England! You have to get passed the assembly and WAG to bring maladminstration to light.

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