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Listed below are comments made by Giz between Thursday, 18th December 2008 and Thursday, 3rd September 2009.

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h2g2: an update 10:12am on 03 Sep 2009 To add to my above post I would cite

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/brunel/A56598015

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/brunel/A583300

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/brunel/A56198587

How do these articles, or the discussions following them fit into the BBC output?
h2g2: an update 10:02am on 03 Sep 2009 I've had a look at H2G2 on a number of occaisions, what I fail to understand is why it is being paid for by the BBC licence fee, and how it fits into the BBC Trusts guidelines of what BBC content should be.
What Came First The Curry or The Contractions. 11:00am on 10 Feb 2009 The name is Noah.

Congrats
Points Of View Message Board 3: Football or Rugby? 11:32am on 06 Jan 2009 Nippie posted

Message 97 Nick posted

"loudGeoffW - its very good if 6music presenters are engaging with listeners on the 6music message boards.

The question is why isn't this happening on the POV boards?"

Well Nick, I don't know - I'm not a mind reader. Why don't you ask the powers that be why they don't want to get involved with the messageboards.

End of Quote

On the 18th of December in response to the question in the original article

"So why aren't BBC executives eagerly piling on to the Points of View message boards and talking to people there?"

I responded

"You haven't actually quoted any feedback that you have gleened from BBC executives. Did you ask any? (we all know how much you love asking questions) wink smiley. For the executives to claim a hostile response is their worry, they would have had to visit the boards. Have they? (you've got me doing it now) wink smiley again. "

End of quote

We're going round in circles. Nick if you want to know why BBC execs are not using messageboards then ASK THEM. You have far more access to BBC staff than we do.
Points Of View Message Board 3: Football or Rugby? 10:18am on 19 Dec 2008 Sorry to hear you're not well Nick.

Just one quick comment.

How about making a New Year's resolution to communicate with messageboarders, about message boards, ON the messageboards.

I think the use of the blog to discuss the future of messageboards is at the root of much of the "bad feeling" going around.

After all if the government decided to discuss the future of the Royal Mail in the offices of DHL, then I don't think the postmen would be very happy!

Merry Xmas.
Points Of View Message Board 3: Football or Rugby? 09:51am on 19 Dec 2008 Morning Nick.

Just re reading your blog I noted this paragraph

"And if there's two conversations going on about the same thing and people can't move from one to the other easily, then that sounds like some improvement in navigation is needed."

Isn't having the same conversation going on in two different places a waste of resources? No matter how good the navigation is. It is a bit like this blog and this thread
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mbpointsofview/F1951566?thread=6069478

It does not really work, (as things will be said on one and then mentioned on the other) unless everyone is involved on both mediums, which then begs the question why have two when one would do?

I know you visit the messageboard thread as you have posted there, and quoted it here. But would a producer or such like want to flick betweeen blogs and messageboards to gleen all the information they wanted, with the issues of duplicated comments and sheer volume?
Points Of View Message Board 3: Football or Rugby? 5:44pm on 18 Dec 2008 What happens with the Merlin thread is this;

It was shown Saturday, so Sunday and Monday you'd get posts about that week's episode. Tuesdays and Wednesdays there was little posting. Round about Thursday afternoon the excitment for Saturdays episode would start to build, but we had nothing to talk about. So the lusting would start.

If someone from the production team came onto the board and left a message saying,"this is where we were going with that episode, did it work?" or "was that cgi believable" or "did you believe that characterisation" we would have plenty of feedback for them.

So it would be the best of both worlds. We would have the discussions we wanted, but the BBC would get it's specific, focused points that it is trying to obtain through blogging.

That would be my dream scenario.
Points Of View Message Board 3: Football or Rugby? 5:27pm on 18 Dec 2008 Nick let me give you an example using a thread with no lusting.

Two weeks ago after an episode of Survivors they showed a trailer with the female Dr talking about sex with the male prisoner.

This prompted a discussion on the messageboards, as some of us thought that it had been made clear in the first episode that she was gay, and others not seeing it that way at all, and suggesting that we had jumped to conclusions, and she just had a female flat mate.

It turned out in this week's episode that she was gay.

Now if the writers wanted us to know she was gay from the start, they failed, as some on the messageboards had not realised. If they wanted us NOT to know she was gay, they also failed, as some of us assumed that was obvious. If they had wanted it to be ambiguous, they kind of succeeded, although it was not so much that none of us were sure, it was that both sides believed they were correct, so not a total success.

Would it not be handy for the writers of the show to know whether they had succeeded in their aim, and whether their writing had conveyed the message how they envisaged?

Would anyone at the BBC have ever started a blog asking whether we realised that a character had been written in a certain way?
Points Of View Message Board 3: Football or Rugby? 4:36pm on 18 Dec 2008 "Lusting after stars may not be strictly off topic - but what use a thread filled with that kind of material be to the makers of Merlin?"

You're being selective there Nick.

I explained to you in my post about the current conversation about the future of the show.
Points Of View Message Board 3: Football or Rugby? 4:24pm on 18 Dec 2008 Sorry Nick. (No wink smiley, I'm being sincere)

I'm going to attempt to make it on topic. Bear with me.

At the moment on POV Me, cricket, and others are involved in a Merlin thread. Yes much of that thread has involved lusting over it's stars, and if a host had come on and told us to keep a bit more on topic it would have been fair.

However, we are currently discussing the direction we wish the series to go in. We have laid out future hopes for plot lines, and specific characters. We are currently bouncing around ideas as to the future madness/evilness of Morgana. Each new comment has produced an extension of the idea from another poster.

Now wouldn't the bods in charge of Merlin find this useful? Believe me we are avid (some would say obsessive and slightly scary) fans, this feedback would surely be gold to the BBC.

And believe you me we would LOVE IT, if someone from the show came on the thread and communicated with us (especially Arthur) (love smiley)!!!

That would be a dream scenario for many threads on those boards.

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