And now the weather...
The Press Association reports that Jersey is fed up being left out of the weather forecast. Read more for yourself after the jump.
But I'm wondering whether you live somewhere that you think is neglected by the weather...?
By Ben Mitchell, Press Association
"The BBC should bring an end to "forecast discrimination" by putting Jersey back on its weather map, the island's tourism authority said today. A petition was launched in a campaign that is also calling for more accurate weather forecasts.
Jersey Tourism claims incorrect temperature predictions are causing local businesses to lose out on millions of pounds of revenue from missed visitors. The island was only mentioned in 10% of BBC weather forecasts in a month, according to research by Jersey Tourism. And Jersey was given a temperature marker in only 30% of forecasts, with its local weather mentioned specifically in only 5%, the research showed. A Jersey Tourism spokesman added that the weather was incorrectly reported in 24 out of 26 forecasts in national newspapers.
David de Carteret, director of Jersey Tourism, said: "Jersey has more sunshine hours than anywhere in the British Isles and we think that being excluded does us a disservice.
"Many people don't have any idea just how lovely the weather is a short hop away from the mainland and for that reason wouldn't consider holidaying in the island, meaning that we lose out on a considerable sum of valuable income." He said the petition has so far been signed by more than 1,000 people. A BBC spokeswoman said that its maps regularly show the island and they can zoom in on the area if there is a "significant" weather event. She said: "The Channel Islands are clearly visible on the UK-wide weather map used in all network BBC weather forecasts and when the weather is significant we do have the option to zoom into the Channel Islands as we sweep across the map. "Temperature indicators are regularly added to the wide UK map for the Channel Islands on TV forecasts. "We always welcome audience feedback - we endeavour to be as inclusive as possible with our weather forecasts and we are confident that we are using the best source of forecast data, which we obtain from the Met Office."
A spokesman for the UK Met Office said: "We do not put Jersey on the Met Office pages because it has its own meteorological service. "The BBC does cover Jersey and that information does come from us but they create their own maps." Residents of the Channel Islands and the Isle of Man have to pay for the TV licence like other UK residents. The free TV licence for the over-75s in the UK is only available on Jersey to people on a low income."
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I personally am sick of hearing about the weather
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Carrefour Selous
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Next thing we'll be getting complaints from Blackpool, Brighton and Bournemouth - or, even worse, claims for compensation!
That much said, I do agree with the Jersey rep on WatO just now who said that the Channel Islands don't get much of a mention - and their weather will always be somewhat different from other areas of the British Isles due to their location!
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NOt the same now mid summers is with us, maybe they should remake the Bergerac series!!
As this is weather realted can a new game of Dundee close be sommenced here?? Railway places (before beecham accepted)
Padstow
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Dear Barry Took,
Please can someone explain why tonight's PM programme was interupted by cries of "Jim! Jim!"
And why it was thought necassary to play the entire Bergerac theme under Dan Corbett's broadcast this evening?
Yours sincerely
( Ret'd ) Chief Insp. Barney Crozier
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Mindclearly - I started a game @ 2 (Jersey convention, version III, 1947).
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Sark (does that count despit the tractors and bicycles?)
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St. Helier
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Do residents of the Channel islands pay a licence fee to the BBC? Or are they part of the grwoing population around the world who listen to or watch the BBC for free, without paying a peny towards funding it?
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Kirkcudbright
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We are a wonderful many faceted nation of micro climates
deal with it.
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Yes! The rest of the island of Ireland. Weather does not respect political boundaries.
Oh dear - is this going to double as another game of 'Dundee Close'?
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Ireland
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Whoops, yours popped in as mine was in the pipeline Sue. Great minds...
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10 - Dundee Close! Well done!
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On a holiday last autumn in Guernsey, it was noticeable that the only weather forecast that was of any use for CI was the local one - which obviously was only broadcast locally. In most places not a problem, but if you rely on people knowing about your lovely weather for your income, then perhaps they do have a point.
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I'm annoyed that the whole of North West England (population about 9 million) only gets 4 place names on the map, but around the south coast every little hamlet with a population of more than 2 people and a donkey gets its 15 seconds of fame every night.
And people up north certainly do pay their licence fees (well, some.)
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/me waits for the Scots to start moaning about the 'tilt' of the TV weather map again...
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The Channel Islands do have a point but also do the Scilly Isles. Yet Stornoway gets a mention every broadcast and yet very few people live there.
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Good fishing off stornaway though
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Don't forget Lundy, they never get a mention!
:-)
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Everywhere in Wales that's not Cardiff. North Wales is usually several degrees colder than South Wales so knowing about Cardiff is about as much use as a chocolate hot-water bottle. Anyone'd think there weren't any other towns here.
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MindClearly. R Stornaway wrote a book about nails in bannisters.
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Being from Weeley, yes really, a little place near the Essex coast we need our very own Weather forecast as we have a microclimate. Our weather never agrees with the rest of the county, never mind the country.
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To be fair, Lundy has a starring role in the shipping forecast, alongside Fastnet and Irish Sea.
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Don't forget Rockall Frances!
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We're going to have weather whether or not.
DCI Tom Barnaby
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Doc: SNAP! (in a nice way).
Are some places (like Stornoway) mentioned because of fishing/boating/sailing in the area?
Eddie, if the nice weather men wont mention all of Ireland, would you kindly arrange for them just to give the weather where I am? Most grateful.
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(Put this on the wrong thread...)
A possible slogan for the Jersey Tourist Board:
"Too lazy and stupid to find a weather forecast? Come to Jersey!"
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Seriously, if you have internet access, finding the forecast of anywhere you might want to go is trivial. If not, how difficult is it to find the number of the Jersey Tourist Board and 'phone them up to ask what the weather's going to be when you're thinking of travelling?
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More concerned with the northern part of the UK?
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
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Dear Eddie
Recently I popped over to a small off-shore island, and, to my horror, discovered there was NO WEATHER there. I of course immediately rang the Met Office but they simply sighed.
Could you please PLEASE re-balance this sorry state by publishing a thread with the UK weather map on this blog, 'The PM Weather Map' might be a suitable title.
Cheers me dears,
nikki noodle
xx
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Great sea fishing!
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If you're in Jersey I suppose that Bornemouth is in the northern part of UK.
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But you can't move to Jersey, unlike Greece, as you're not allowed to buy homes there if you're not a local.
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Couldn't land because of the weather, they didn't warn us about that!
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35 - You can, but you have to be stinking rich.
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22 Isn't there a rift in time in Cardiff, which is why Dr Who and Torchwood are based there. Perhaps that's why it's warmer.
Where do you get these chocolate water bottles? yummy.
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I think Birmingham often gets left out of the national weather on the TV. The presenter stands in front of Birmingham as he/she pans down the east coast and then when coming up the west coast, Birmingham no longer appears on the map. I think the BBC should improve local weather reports and do them more often. I can access a video of the local weather report from each morning from the website but no report is done at the weekend. Anyway, it's just a thought.
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Well I think the BBC thinks the weather seems to stop at Birmingham!!
I live in Burton on Trent - only 30 miles north of Birmingham but we might as well be in the Bermuda Triangle for all the mention we get.
Come on BBC stop being so London centric - there is life North of Watford. I don't care which part of the country is given a bigger coverage on the weather forecast so long as it is NORTH OF THE HOME COUNTIES.
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Here in the (sometimes) sunny East Midlands it's not so much a case of being ignored by the weather people but not being given a clue which bit of the country they're lumping us in with today.
Being bang in the middle of the country we expect to have the same weather as Birmingham some days and London on others - but the 4.5 million people here often have to guess which one is going to apply to them tomorrow.
"Weather in the North will be wet, and in the South will be dry" - so which bit are we in today?
Not exactly the end of the world though is it?!
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Oooh that picture has just reminded me how lovely Jim Bergerac used to be. (Sigh) I suppose we've both aged a bit since the 70's. They knew how to make great telly in those days.
Couldn't care less about the weather forecast anywhere at the moment (it's grey & drizzly all day every day here), but I see Eddie's concerned enough for all the rest of us. I don't like to use the word "obsession", but really... ;-)
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One thing that does irritate me is weather presenters, with an upward sweep of the hand, referring to parts of Scotland as the "Far North"
Where is this place? Is it Caithness (my home county),Sutherland or anywhere north of Perth. Maybe it's where dragons and monsters live. I never hear of the far south, east or west. Worst offender is Louise Lear.
Please buy an atlas Louise!!
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Down here in Bath I find that the Times newspaper's "Weatherquest" covers our area with Central Southern. We are not South West, nor South East, and "Central Southern" seems to predict the correct weather for us.
But - I do think the new PM weather forecast is far better than any other on the radio or TV.
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40. Helen Horton
well us in the Home counties highlands have to guess our temperatures and weather between London, Birmingham, the Midlands and East Anglia.
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We in the East Midlands feel a bit neglected. Are we East or are we Midlands?
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The Tendring Peninsular is known with good rason as Essex's sunshine coast. Here in Harwich and Dovercourt we have been having a prolonged spell of dry weather apart from a couple of downpours earlier this week. Frequently when I drive home from Colchester and beyond the weather brightens as soon as I cross the border into Tendring! Oh and there are National Powerboats coming to Harwich this weekend so I hope that Simon will have a good forecast for us tomorrow!
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Regarding David de Carteret's statement "Jersey has more sunshine hours than anywhere in the British Isles and we think that being excluded does us a disservice", Jersey is not geographically part of the British Isles, nor is it politically part of the United Kingdom. Its status as a Crown Dominion results from a battle that took place in 1066, and the subsequent loss of Normandy, apart from the Channel Islands, to the Kingdom of France in 1204. Dare I suggest listening to "le Météo"?
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Listening again, (bbc iplayer IS wonderful, you know), I believe Eddie suggested the most requested place would get its own special mention in the weather forecast...?
...thats too much of a temptation to resist...
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Obviously Jersey do not watch BBC spotlight in the evening as weather for the channel islands is ususally covered
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Isles of Scilly is covered in Spotlight too.
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I nominate a vast area of the UK that has been airbrushed by BBC weather forecasters - Central Southern England. Is it that forecasters can't decide where the line between South West/Wales weather changes to that in the South East or is it simply that the whole forecast is so inaccurate that it makes no difference? Or was the super computer not programmed to include this pleasant if inconvenient part of the country? We have Wales/South West/Northern Ireland/Midlands/Scotland/North East & North West/The Midlands and London/South East --- but no Central Southern England. This is blatant meteorological discrimination.
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We are an ignored area, but mainly on the television. The weather person generally stands right in front of our area. The 'camera' pans up the East Coast of Britain to Scotland where it then diverts over to Northern Ireland before drifting back across to Wales and the South West.
North West England and Cumbria rarely get a look in.
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That reminds me of an old Top Tip from Viz:
PREGNANT weatherwomen. When presenting the report, stand front on to the camera so as anybody living west of Stoke on Trent can see what the weather will be like in their area.
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Our BBC West Midlands weather person usually stands in front of Hereford....
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Perhaps they should take a leaf out of PM's book.
Start with the map hovering over one region, and explain the weather there. Then pan up/down/over to the next region, and explain the weather there. Rinse and repeat. The panning doesn't help when the scan / refresh rate of the monitor showing the map doesn't coincide with that of the camera, so the map appears to jerk as it moves. Either that or their monitors need a beefier graphics card, so they can cope with the graphics being thrown at them.
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Yes! I notice that Sarah Keith-Lucas is the latest one to sit on "That Chair".
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how about more forecast to do with holiday destinations so more of Channel Islands, cornwall, then areas like NW scotland or Northumberland and Holt Island...........
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not Holt but Holy Island
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