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• 1. At 4:38pm on 23 Oct 2009, Radnor-rambler wrote:

  We have a wheelbarow by the back door. The rainfall, ie the depth of water therin, is thus measured by a barrow-meter.

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• 2. At 4:59pm on 23 Oct 2009, ExpectingtheEnd wrote:

  The economy conntracting again this quarter, but the finance sector (ftse) in a fantasy bubble.
  
  Time to follow the ostrich?
  
  We could discuss whether it's a recession or a slump (unemployment is increasing at twice the rate we call recessionary).
  We could also play silly tunes.
  
  
  Or we could ask how long we are going to let the finance industry shaft us. I'd be inclined to close the London Stock Exchange down whilst we sort this mess out.
  
  We don't need Turner (check his pensions report) or King (check him on letting high street banks fail!!!), but I'd appoint an outsider if I were Darling to reprioritise the finance industry. Ken Livingstone, maybe.
  
  One thing even you ostriches could look at, is how come there is the money/credit around to fuel the Ftse rises. Something to do with the Governor having lost complete control of the money supply and its destinations, I should think, wouldn't you?
  
  
  Don't blame me for calling you ostriches. Blame Pliny the Elder. (The Younger was just as bad. Thought majority voting irrational)
  
  
  

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• 3. At 5:10pm on 23 Oct 2009, ExpectingtheEnd wrote:

  Pity we're all ostriches, 'cos we wouldn't be able to see the pictures you should post to consider whether Bonnie Greer and Lauren Holly are lookalikes. (Jenny Shepard, to NCIS fans like you and me. (She was the head honcho there before she got shot))

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• 4. At 5:24pm on 23 Oct 2009, Frances O wrote:

  When the silent calls issue was covered on 'Ewan Ures' today, they pointed out that some (many? I don't remember) originate outside the UK. Would 1471, as suggested on 'PM', work on these? I suspect not.

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• 5. At 5:31pm on 23 Oct 2009, lucien_desgai wrote:

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  No you can't trace the overseas cold calls and the agents will never even tell you which companies they represent. I am TPS registered and alway tick the no-contact box but get about half a dozen overseas sales calls each week. There's no point in asking them to stop but it can be cathartic to keep a whistle by the phone (just be careful not to use it against legitimate callers by accident!).
  
  As the illegal foreign calls all seem to be selling supposedly cheaper gas and electric I'm guessing that there is a UK company somewhere behind the scenes. The problem will only be resolved when the authorities investigate who in the UK is commissioning the illegal telesales.

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• 6. At 5:34pm on 23 Oct 2009, jlkingswood wrote:

  Im getting about one call a day at the moment, not silent but recorded messages (about loans etc). Its annoying not scary. Im registered with the TPS so shouldnt be getting these calls, but cant complain as it isnt a real person on the phone. grr.
  And I tried 1471 and the number was withheld.
  
  I dont see how I can get rid of these - or how they can be legislated against.

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• 7. At 5:36pm on 23 Oct 2009, rainbow2zy wrote:

  I don't want to increase my Karma debit as they say in Didsbury. I do object to unwanted phone calls.
  
  Nobody available from OFCOM. Why did you not ask the government minister responsible for OFCon to show up.
  Can we have a league table of what across the public estate and minsters turn up for R4 programes.
  

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• 8. At 5:38pm on 23 Oct 2009, The Stainless Steel Cat wrote:

  Eddie, you asked the right question when you asked if anyone welcomes cold calls - shame about the waffly answer from your guest.
  
  I would have gone further though. I'd have asked what possible justification a company can have for invading my privacy and wasting my time without any kind of invitation whatsoever.
  
  As for asking companies to stop calling, I had to ask a certain company three times to stop calling before it did. I suspect the callers have a script which tells them to ignore the first two requests.

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• 9. At 5:47pm on 23 Oct 2009, Frances O wrote:

  I've heard of the whistle solution, and I bet it's very effective if there's a real person (however weird or unpleasant) on the other end. To an automated call? Cathartic, as you say, lucian. I'd be very fed up if I got so many silent calls.

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• 10. At 5:50pm on 23 Oct 2009, Frances O wrote:

  Re Churchill:
  
  Apart from his brilliance with the language, and making memorable soundbites before the term was even thought of;
  
  It's 70 years since the outbreak of WWII, so there will still be many who remember this event; plus (of course) the anniversary programmes, articles etc, raising people's awareness of him.

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• 11. At 5:55pm on 23 Oct 2009, KentishKelt wrote:

  
  So Nick Griffin is to complain to the BBC about his treatment on QT last night, 'and he was set upon by a lynch mob'.
  
  Oh dear, Nick. Tables turned, eh? Now you've got an intimation of what it feels like.
  
  As an aside, I wasn't impressed or convinced by his chameleon attempt to reposition his politics. But by such attempts doth political nous transcend what might pass for personal integrity, and he has demonstrated a lack of potential for either imo. Sadly, this also speaks volumes for those who vote for his party.

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• 12. At 5:57pm on 23 Oct 2009, steelpulse wrote:

  Andrew Roberts and Winston Churchill. I will take that piece as a more reliable interpretation - than the other claimant to the late Statesman's loyalty. Thank you, Eddie. I always like my views confirmed.
  I got some news this afternoon and this Thought seemed to fit my mood.
  My thanks to the usual source.
  Thought of the Moment:
  I thank Thee first because I was never robbed before; second, because although they took my purse they did not take my life; third, because although they took my all, it was not much; and fourth because it was I who was robbed, and not I who robbed. -Matthew Henry
  Subject: The weather forecast
  Anagram: Tort - waste a chef here
  
  

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• 13. At 5:58pm on 23 Oct 2009, rossy161 wrote:

  I am so fed up of constantly hearing about the weather forecast on PM! How many times do we have to listen to repeats of those silly forecasts with the background music and sound effects? I'm sure the new forecast is fantastic, but I do not need to keep hearing PM's self-congratulations. I thought this was meant to be a current affairs program.

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• 14. At 6:04pm on 23 Oct 2009, lucien_desgai wrote:

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  A 'World Have Your Say' discussion on 'Are the rich morally obliged to share their wealth?' is just starting on the World Service ... I thought you might be interested to know!

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• 15. At 6:04pm on 23 Oct 2009, Really_Paul wrote:

  Re Cold Calls
  
  A simple and effective solution to confound Cold Callers;
  
  Put a fax machine on the line, with it's auto-answer set to the minimum amount (mine is one ring). People who really want to get hold of me send a fax. Cold (or nuissance) Callers get charged for the privelge of listening to "the warbling electronic love call of a fax machine" (thank you, Tom Clancy)!!

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• 16. At 6:45pm on 23 Oct 2009, Gillianian wrote:

  Another way of tackling cold calls is to lay the phone down quietly and walk away to do something useful for a couple of minutes. The line should be clear when you return to end the call.

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• 17. At 7:25pm on 23 Oct 2009, leohawk wrote:

  Glad to know that I am one of the 7 out of 700 who dislike the weather forecast. Feel a little bit special now.

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• 18. At 8:32pm on 23 Oct 2009, groovySillyoldgit wrote:

  Why do you have Andrew Roberts as a soi-disant "expert", telling us what Churchill would think about anything? I well remember the night of Sept. 11th (7/11) when he appeared on Channel 4 News and told the nation the destruction of the World Trade Center would have the same effect as the sinking of the Titanic. ie none. Anyone with half a brain cell that day knew it would mean war. Where I lived people were pouring onto the streets saying America would want blood.!!! Enough said. What a cracking ass.

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• 19. At 9:02pm on 23 Oct 2009, GiulioNapolitani wrote:

  Glad to know that I am one of the 7 out of 700 who dislike the weather forecast. Feel a little bit special now.
  
  As another, I am now looking forward to my invitation to appear on the Question Time panel.

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• 20. At 9:53pm on 23 Oct 2009, Lepus_Madidus wrote:

  Has anybody pulled yet by name dropping the PM weather forecast?
  
  'Power Diallers'? It's another You and Yours piece that's ended up in PM?
  
  If people didn't buy from cold calling companies they'd stop calling us at our homes. Would it be easier to stop the fraudsters looking for our banking details and credit card numbers, and getting us to buy into worthless investments if sales cold calls were banned?

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• 21. At 9:55pm on 23 Oct 2009, Lepus_Madidus wrote:

  The wheel barrow meter doesn't use Mercury.
  
  Mercury in Barometers is bad? Mercury in energy saving alternative bulbs is good?

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• 22. At 10:39am on 24 Oct 2009, JotheEditrice wrote:

  Good morning everybody, and thanks for your thoughts. A quick word about our relationship with You and Yours... sometimes both programmes alight on the same subject and cold calling is a classic example which fits their mandate (consumer) and ours (news- government consultation). So we checked in with them (we don't listen, because between 12 and 1 we mix Martha's post-WATO martinis) and we learned that they had spoken to the minister (7). I thought there was more in this story. Ofcom would have been especially pertinent as they are the regulatory body, and I thought it was a bit poor they wouldn't put anyone up. But the discussion was interesting I thought- I learned lots I didn't know, and now I know about the whistle thing (5).
  On weather- I promise we'll shut up now. Honest. Except there are some photos that Eddie is supposed to post...
  Jo

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• 23. At 4:11pm on 24 Oct 2009, Lady Sue wrote:

  Thanks Jo, interesting stuff.
  
  If you brought back the 'Recent Comments' section, I'm sure everyone would see it.
  
  *ducks*

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• 24. At 5:32pm on 24 Oct 2009, Lady Sue wrote:

  Carolyn, good programme. Heartbreaking about the dogs being shot. How terrifying for the dogs who must have heard and known what was happening and were trapped before execution.
  
  The RSPCA man sounded a reasonable person but I can't see any justification for this slaughter. Please tell us the name of the German Shepherd Charity or put a link up for us. People may want to transfer their RSPCA donations.

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• 25. At 11:03pm on 06 Nov 2009, Preston Firmlie wrote:

  A very old PM Blog.
  What a pity that they can't be identified by day or date.

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