The PM Glass Box.

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• 1. At 12:51pm on 14 Oct 2009, GiulioNapolitani wrote:

  Has the glass box moved into a retirement home?

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• 2. At 1:15pm on 14 Oct 2009, David_McNickle wrote:

  GN 1, Don't know, but mine is on holiday.

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• 3. At 1:20pm on 14 Oct 2009, GiulioNapolitani wrote:

  There is more than one?

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• 4. At 1:24pm on 14 Oct 2009, David_McNickle wrote:

  GN 3, Several of us send Glass Boxes, but they seem to have lost interest in using them.

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• 5. At 1:24pm on 14 Oct 2009, Scotch-git wrote:

  
  There can be only one!
  
  Connor MacLeod of the Clan MacLeod
  

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• 6. At 1:28pm on 14 Oct 2009, Fearless Fred wrote:

  There can be only one thousand!
  
  The Nac Mac Feegle (The Wee Free Men, by T Pratchett)

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• 7. At 1:33pm on 14 Oct 2009, GiulioNapolitani wrote:

  Several of us send Glass Boxes
  
  !!!? And no doubt by the time a studio has been hired and photographers booked and people to polish the glass and decorate the background they are paying nearly a thousand pounds a time for the privilege. Is this how they spend our licence fee? A thousand pounds for a glass box? Its ridiculous! This is typical of the profligacy of the modern BBC.

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• 8. At 1:34pm on 14 Oct 2009, David_McNickle wrote:

  Ln 47 (elsewhere), And that is why Hislop says in on HIGNFY.

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• 9. At 1:37pm on 14 Oct 2009, David_McNickle wrote:

  GN 7, Don't get your knickers in twist. It is my glass box (OK, plastic), my camera, my background (here in the loft and in my garden), and my computer that I send the photos on to PM.

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• 10. At 1:41pm on 14 Oct 2009, David_McNickle wrote:

  GN 7, This was one of my most recent:
  
  http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/09/the_pm_glass_box_71.shtml

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• 11. At 1:43pm on 14 Oct 2009, GiulioNapolitani wrote:

  It is my glass box (OK, plastic), my camera, my background (here in the loft and in my garden), and my computer that I send the photos on to PM.
  
  And you got all this on expenses from the BBC, no doubt? AT THE EXPENSE OF THE LICENCE PAYER. It's no good trying to get out of it now. A thousand pounds for a glass box! And it's not even real glass! That nice Mr Cameron will put an end to this sort of thing. There will be a pointy reckoning, you mark my words.

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• 12. At 1:54pm on 14 Oct 2009, GiulioNapolitani wrote:

  GN 7, This was one of my most recent:
  
  Ah! So anybody can send in a photo?
  

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• 13. At 2:04pm on 14 Oct 2009, Looternite wrote:

  #8. David_McNickle
  Ah - the thought of David McNickle leaping majestically from thread to thread.

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• 14. At 2:19pm on 14 Oct 2009, lordBeddGelert wrote:

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_W._Galbraith
  
  I hope you will expose Gordon Brown's pushing of the line at PMQs that the Afghan elections were a step to democracy. They were fraudulent and Peter Galbraith called the UN on that fiction. It may be an 'inconvenient truth' on the day that Gordon had to read out some three dozen names of service personnel killed pursuing that war - but air-brushing the facts does not change the situation on the ground. Okay, things might get worse if we did pull out - but let us at least make such decisions on the basis of facts and a truthful assessment, not a load of US/UK/UN sponsored spin.

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• 15. At 2:59pm on 14 Oct 2009, jonathanmorse wrote:

  Gordon Brown accepts the problems with the election but you have to deal with things as they are, just as we had to accept the election result that got George Bush junior elected the first time.

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• 16. At 3:01pm on 14 Oct 2009, jonathanmorse wrote:

  I gather a CERN staff member has been arrested for possible terrorism offences - shouldn't they all be arrested since they're all trying to blow up the world to try and find the God particle ...

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• 17. At 4:19pm on 14 Oct 2009, David_McNickle wrote:

  GN 12, Assuming you aren't joking, yes. pm@bbc.co.uk Re PM Glass Box.

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• 18. At 4:20pm on 14 Oct 2009, David_McNickle wrote:

  Ln 13, Well, it was an old thread I didn't think you would look at.

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• 19. At 4:25pm on 14 Oct 2009, David_McNickle wrote:

  lBG 14, GB didn't say it was a BIG step. Just like Eddie didn't promise to mention the Grauniad thingy yesterday. Said he planned to say something....maybe. (I liked the way GB stretched his part on PMQ out by continually referring to the troops that died in Afg.)

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• 20. At 4:26pm on 14 Oct 2009, David_McNickle wrote:

  jm 16, Isn't that what terrorists do?

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• 21. At 4:39pm on 14 Oct 2009, Looternite wrote:

  #18. David_McNickle
  
  I remember the remark not the thread it was on as it must have been a few days ago.

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• 22. At 4:53pm on 14 Oct 2009, David_McNickle wrote:

  Ln 13, I use Coats and Clark.

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• 23. At 5:02pm on 14 Oct 2009, eddiemair wrote:

  Just finished recording Ian Hislop at three minutes to 5.

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• 24. At 5:05pm on 14 Oct 2009, David_McNickle wrote:

  GN 12, PS But it would help if you had a glass box, or something similar.

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• 25. At 5:06pm on 14 Oct 2009, David_McNickle wrote:

  Eddie 23, Do you plan to let us hear him?

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• 26. At 5:13pm on 14 Oct 2009, eddiemair wrote:

  Yes but I can't promise. :o)

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• 27. At 5:17pm on 14 Oct 2009, David_McNickle wrote:

  Eddie, OK. I hear him on HIGNFY. And read Private Eye when I can afford it. Gissa fiver. He was also on QT last week. You know, the one you don't do.

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• 28. At 5:19pm on 14 Oct 2009, Joseph Walker wrote:

  JohnathanMorse(15)
  
  "...have to deal with things as they are..." Ahh, the old 'creation of facts' approach to politics. In other words: cynically manipulate a given political environment by abusing democracy, dishonestly laying claim to moral arguments and misrepresenting and lying, all to create a new reality or 'fact'. This is exactly the political approach that has and still is being deployed in the Middle East. It means the new 'facts' now are Iraq is wrecked, but, crucially, now owned by Western governments. It also means Western governments (whose priority of course is not the welfare of Afghanis) now have control over Afghan lives too. If Afghanis are really saying they want the foreign occupation, this is only a passing and largely irrelevant by-product of British and US foreign policy. History tells us it is unlikely to last.
  
  It's obviously true we "...have to deal with things as they are..." and the expression is vacuous. The real question is, what political circumstances were and still are being exploited to get us to the situation we are now in, what are the forces and interests behind this exploitation and why are they doing it?

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• 29. At 5:20pm on 14 Oct 2009, David_McNickle wrote:

  Oooooo, I guess N Clegg got told!

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• 30. At 5:22pm on 14 Oct 2009, David_McNickle wrote:

  JW 28, Is that like dropping the reference to WMD and saying Iraq was invaded to get rid of that tyrant Hussein?

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• 31. At 5:23pm on 14 Oct 2009, eddiemair wrote:

  Sorry to interrupt.

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• 32. At 5:29pm on 14 Oct 2009, David_McNickle wrote:

  Eddie 31, But?

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• 33. At 5:32pm on 14 Oct 2009, Hawk wrote:

  Eddie,
  I think it's time that this programme started a 'GET THEM OUT' revolution to get all the out of touch fiddling MP's out of our house of commons! It just shows how out of touch they are when they complain that they have to pay all that money back. Would they tell the tax man to keep the rebate they are due when they've paid too much in taxes? I doubt it. Get them all out and lets start again. Can we do it? YES WE CAN!

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• 34. At 5:46pm on 14 Oct 2009, David_McNickle wrote:

  Wottid I say yesterday about Hislop/Private eye?

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• 35. At 5:49pm on 14 Oct 2009, Lady Sue wrote:

  Great stuff with Ian Hislop!
  
  Grow up David.

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• 36. At 5:53pm on 14 Oct 2009, Looternite wrote:

  Isn't Lord Mandleson great, he has saved Vauxhall jobs.

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• 37. At 5:56pm on 14 Oct 2009, newlach wrote:

  I too enjoyed the interview with Ian Hislop. His point about parties using the right to confidentiality and privacy in preference to libel law was a good one. Also surprising to hear that the head of the Law Society was reprimanded by his own members.

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• 38. At 5:56pm on 14 Oct 2009, Frances O wrote:

  The 'splash' post has disappeared.
  
  Bring back recent comments?

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• 39. At 5:57pm on 14 Oct 2009, David_McNickle wrote:

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• 40. At 5:57pm on 14 Oct 2009, Joseph Walker wrote:

  D.McNick (30)
  
  Absolutely. Blair's 2003 Government were in a position to do almost anything they wanted, including attack other countries on the basis of false arguments and lies. I think this raises serious questions about the state of our democracy.

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• 41. At 5:57pm on 14 Oct 2009, Looternite wrote:

  If you Telegraph/Daily Mail/Independant/Guardian reading people at the BBC want know about "White Working Class" disengagement with multi-cultural Britain you are going to have to come out and talk to people like me. I know these people and they tell me stuff.

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• 42. At 5:58pm on 14 Oct 2009, David_McNickle wrote:

  I always enjoy Hislop. He almost took over Question Time last week.

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• 43. At 5:59pm on 14 Oct 2009, jonathanmorse wrote:

  Surely Barrings went down because the Tories let it, whereas Labour didn't let Northern Rock go down. Also Northern Rock's HQ is in a Labour area, and although the Tories like to say otherwise, after 12 years of Labour and one credit crunch we're still not so badly off as when we couldn't save Barings.

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• 44. At 6:00pm on 14 Oct 2009, jonathanmorse wrote:

  So was Hislop really protecting Parliament or going after this oil company?

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• 45. At 6:02pm on 14 Oct 2009, Looternite wrote:

  #44. jonathanmorse
  Follow the money.
  Hislop wants more sales.

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• 46. At 6:02pm on 14 Oct 2009, U14138029 wrote:

  Both?

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• 47. At 6:02pm on 14 Oct 2009, David_McNickle wrote:

  Ln 41, I'll see you at that posh gastro-pub, The Fox. Didn't see many of the under-class there. Nice staff, though. Very friendly and helpful. Suggested a nice wheat beer. Belgian, I think. The beer, not the bar staff.

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• 48. At 6:03pm on 14 Oct 2009, David_McNickle wrote:

  Why does GB keep referring to his drunk old aunt, Alchy Ada?

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• 49. At 6:07pm on 14 Oct 2009, Looternite wrote:

  #47. David_McNickle
  Last week Hertfordshire NHS and health care authorities were in Luton town centre recruiting staff. Poaching our people with lures of more money, this needs to be investigated.

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• 50. At 6:07pm on 14 Oct 2009, Lady Sue wrote:

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• 51. At 6:08pm on 14 Oct 2009, Joseph Walker wrote:

  D.McNick (48)
  
  "Alchy Ada"... Brilliant!

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• 52. At 6:14pm on 14 Oct 2009, steelpulse wrote:

  Super Injunctions? Hmm. Fascinating and in my view disgraceful. It is a safeguard only few can utilise. My old friends - torts.
  So there will be an answer soon - in Parliament - on how many Super Injunctions are in force or is that another visit to a gain a Judgement by the Media?
  Brickbats and Bouquets? The Law Society - allegedly - only want the latter reported. Hmm.
  Subject: expect the atmosphere to remain toxic
  Anagram: OHM - Iconic Tree - Peters Ex attempt hoax
  
  

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• 53. At 6:18pm on 14 Oct 2009, jonathanmorse wrote:

  # 40 J Walker so it's not possible Parliament was working and the Iraqi invasion had enough support from the public - they got re-elected and no one got charged with invading Iraq because it was legal.

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• 54. At 6:33pm on 14 Oct 2009, Joseph Walker wrote:

  JM(53)
  
  Well, that's one view I haven't heard for a bit...
  
  The question of whether Parliament works or not depends entirely on what you want from Parliament and who you consider should be benefiting from its processes. I can think of lots of interests who, over the last ten years or so, might consider the UK Parliament to be very effective.

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• 55. At 6:51pm on 14 Oct 2009, Lepus_Madidus wrote:

  MPs don't like being tarred with the same brush?
  
  What about fireman Mathew Repton who is on the DNA database because somebody drove into his fire engine when he was attending a traffic accident on a motorway?
  
  The EU Court of Human Rights told this government to sort of the DNA database and the number of innocents on it.
  
  Can't we at least have a system like the Scottish please MPs?
  
  Why aren't expenses swindling MPs DNA swabbed and on the database?

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• 56. At 7:39pm on 14 Oct 2009, ExpectingtheEnd wrote:

  Paul Farrelly, the Labour MP, was asking about something else too.
  
  Why no coverage of Barclays, also the subject of Paul's question and Carter Ruck's gagging?
  
  There is some interest in Barclay's analyses of their optimal tax position. Ehem.
  
  
  
  PS Hey, 'Yesterday'? I thought Guido Fawkes, whom DMcN quoted, had published the day before.

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• 57. At 7:43pm on 14 Oct 2009, ExpectingtheEnd wrote:

  I think PM has not given enough coverage to the VIEW that the MPs showed themselves incompetent as administrators and moralists in using expenses to substitute for salary (if they did, which many say they did). for turning a blind eye to the activities of fellow MPs (which many supposedly 'clean', did, for taking advantage of rules that ppermitted payments (but did not insist on them!) and for not talking about equality.

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• 58. At 7:52pm on 14 Oct 2009, jonathanmorse wrote:

  # 57 they're not administrators they represent the electorate to the administration.

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• 59. At 8:28pm on 14 Oct 2009, GiulioNapolitani wrote:

  GN 12, Assuming you aren't joking, yes. pm@bbc.co.uk Re PM Glass Box.
  
  Excellent! I will contact them straight away about sending the box and the camera equipment. I could do with a thousand pounds at the moment.

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• 60. At 09:16am on 15 Oct 2009, David_McNickle wrote:

  GN 59, Send it to me and I will send a check. End of discussion.

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• 61. At 09:20am on 15 Oct 2009, David_McNickle wrote:

  Ln 49, Probably looking for cleaners.

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• 62. At 09:20am on 15 Oct 2009, David_McNickle wrote:

  JW 51, Unfortunately, not mine.

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• 63. At 10:44am on 15 Oct 2009, David_McNickle wrote:

  Hell hath no furry like a woman's corns. Get searching, there's more.

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• 64. At 10:46am on 15 Oct 2009, David_McNickle wrote:

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• 65. At 10:56am on 15 Oct 2009, David_McNickle wrote:

  I was just reading about The Billy Goats Gruff...

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• 66. At 10:57am on 15 Oct 2009, David_McNickle wrote:

  I liked it so much that I read it three times...

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• 67. At 11:09am on 15 Oct 2009, David_McNickle wrote:

  I guess I got 64 right...

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• 68. At 11:50am on 15 Oct 2009, founderPRP wrote:

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• 69. At 5:00pm on 15 Oct 2009, David_McNickle wrote:

  Must get one of these back on the list.

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• 70. At 5:08pm on 15 Oct 2009, David_McNickle wrote:

  OK, this can go now. We'll never know what 68 said.

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