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• 1. At 12:42pm on 04 Sep 2009, Dennis Junior wrote:

  Eddie and (Editor) Amanda:
  
  What is on the agenda for tonight's PM Show....Idea, the Prime Minister speech about Afghanistan.....
  
  =Dennis Junior=

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• 2. At 12:54pm on 04 Sep 2009, Big Sister wrote:

  Is this Val's box I wonder?

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• 3. At 1:52pm on 04 Sep 2009, LionHeartedLion wrote:

  
  
  Does Nato distinguish between crime, theft and murder, and insurrection?
  
  Does Nato make any distinction at all between civilians and insurgents?
  
  
  
  
  
  NOT IN MY NAME.
  
  IN THE NAME OF HUMANITY BRING THESE NATO SO CALLED FORCES HOME, NOW.
  
  PM.

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• 4. At 2:23pm on 04 Sep 2009, ValeryP wrote:

  Aha - they chose the out-of-focus one. Would you believe, that's a crab apple inside! Of course right about now it would be under water, glug, glug, glug.

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• 5. At 4:35pm on 04 Sep 2009, jiffle wrote:

  With reference to the three year sentence given to Guy Button for assisting his father's suicide:
  
  I find it astonishing that, in an era when one court case after another asserts people's human rights in all kinds of increasingly trivial areas, the one human right that we are not allowed is the most fundamental one possible - as Hamlet put it: "To be, or not to be".
  

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• 6. At 5:19pm on 04 Sep 2009, darkdesign wrote:

  The Prime Minister is not there to serve the interests of the owner and workers of The Sun newspaper. He is there to serve the British public as a whole.

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• 7. At 5:29pm on 04 Sep 2009, Lady Sue wrote:

  Val: I was going to comment that the Glass Box looked 'peachy keen' but now suspect I can only surmise it is crabby.
  
  Wishing I could hear PM. LA is a cultural desert without it.

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• 8. At 5:47pm on 04 Sep 2009, Big Sister wrote:

  Lady Sue: Can't you listen to it via the internet?

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• 9. At 5:55pm on 04 Sep 2009, Hawk wrote:

  Just listened to the bit about the trans-sexual prisoner and was so infuriated I pulled off the road, fired up the laptop and here I am.
  It's disgusting. It makes me feel ashamed to be british. This rapist gets his way because it's his 'Human Right'! What about the human rights of the poor woman he raped? What about the human rights of the people he attacked? He showed no respect for their rights, so why should he be allowed to get his rights?
  I feel that it's about time legislation was brought in that removed the human rights from any prisoner found guilty of violating the human rights of others. We are after all, a civilised society, so lets have some civilised laws. It might even cut down on the prison population once they realise they get no rights once inside. Who knows?

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• 10. At 6:05pm on 04 Sep 2009, normanmugabe wrote:

  Upshares theme sounded like.... what?
  
  It sounded as if my oppo Twerp Earp was trying to screw a damp Norwegian troll, head first into a Spitfire beer bottle.

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• 11. At 6:19pm on 04 Sep 2009, ValeryP wrote:

  Lady Sue - Masses of them this year, must find something else more useful to do with them.

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• 12. At 6:24pm on 04 Sep 2009, jiffle wrote:

  Loved the Upshares theme - is there a longer version of that around somewhere, or is that all they did?

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• 13. At 6:28pm on 04 Sep 2009, steelpulse wrote:

  Penetrated his deafness, eh? Richard Roundtrees? lol
  
  Earlier in PM I chortled heartily at hearing how Nigel Farage could only do so much. Yup – I thought – smoking cigars takes it out of you I suppose. Allegedly doing nowt constructive in the European Parliament must exhaust one all right. May as well come and do the same in Great Britain were he elected.
  
  But whilst I smiled - I suddenly thought though Edward. I am still here!
  
  I do think that about every six months or so and marvel that I aint departed.
  
  I have had half-hearted offers to outhouse me in countries that produce Finance Ministers with first names Anders – who can converse sensibly in several languages – whereas out own politicians – allegedly - cannot in plain English. And taking advice from a tabloid - on anything? Stop – my sides hurt.
  
  But the leaving would be a single – one way ticket – which is a tad unfair.
  
  I am still here and I am not in despair as some posters above are for the whole of our country.
  
  It is the – no offence – ordinary folk of this country that still give me hope, I suppose.
  
  I regret I mistrust the cogs and wheels of those who rule us or those who wish to rule us.
  
  Wasn't that where I came in? lol

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• 14. At 9:42pm on 04 Sep 2009, Dr Bee wrote:

  I'm sorry that today's story about the transsexual prisoner seemed to miss the mark so badly after such a good piece of journalism yesterday covering Schizophrenia. I appreciate that there is a fine line between what makes a story work or not, but in this case I felt that the coverage did little to explore the underlying issues in more depth. Ultimately the question could have been framed in the context of whether or not it is correct for a woman to be detained in a male prison for any reason whatsoever. Many people will fail to understand that a transsexual person innately feels - and is legally recognised - as being of the sex determined on their gender recognition certificate. Put another way, would it ever be right to lock a woman up in a male prison because of the crimes she has committed?
  
  This is obviously a complex and very emotive case because of the nature of the crimes involved, and because for most of us there is an incongruence between the crimes committed and the gender of the person in question. But in my opinion it is those things that muddy the waters make it too easy for people to overlook the issue that is at stake - which is not about a 'benefit' or luxury choice nor about the gender of the prisoner which has already been determined - but about a basic human right to be detained with dignity.

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• 15. At 10:19pm on 04 Sep 2009, Big Sister wrote:

  If I may say so without sounding too frivolous, I think this may be the finest Glass Box photo so far. The careful placement of the dandelion completes the composition. Well done, Val! :o)

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• 16. At 11:58pm on 04 Sep 2009, Looternite wrote:

  #15 Big Sister
  Get too frivolous and Anne P will be telling you off.
  By the way the second Muppets link you posted, this morning, was the best.
  Me and David_McNickle will have to sit near the front if we don't behave.

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• 17. At 10:02am on 05 Sep 2009, David_McNickle wrote:

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• 18. At 11:22am on 05 Sep 2009, Looternite wrote:

  #17 DMcN
  Now you are bringing in the Simpsons.

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• 19. At 11:32am on 05 Sep 2009, David_McNickle wrote:

  Ln 18, Were you picking on AP elsewhere? You sniper. OJ Simpson?

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• 20. At 11:33am on 05 Sep 2009, David_McNickle wrote:

  BS 15, Crawler.

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• 21. At 11:54am on 05 Sep 2009, Looternite wrote:

  #19 DMcN
  I was not picking on AP just defending myself from unjust sniping and bickering charges.

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• 22. At 2:53pm on 05 Sep 2009, Big Sister wrote:

  Right, both of you, you've made your views known about AnneP - time to leave it, don't you think?
  
  

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• 23. At 5:12pm on 05 Sep 2009, David_McNickle wrote:

  I really think we should be allowed to know who refers our posts. Nothing like hiding behind anonnymooseity. I don't even remember what I said.

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• 24. At 5:14pm on 05 Sep 2009, David_McNickle wrote:

  BS 22, I think we were being more general than just AP. She just happened to be the most recent complainer about our silliness.

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• 25. At 5:15pm on 05 Sep 2009, David_McNickle wrote:

  Ln 21, Now another complainer...

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• 26. At 5:16pm on 05 Sep 2009, David_McNickle wrote:

  Ln 21, Doncha just hate being told what to do?

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• 27. At 5:21pm on 05 Sep 2009, David_McNickle wrote:

  VP That doesn't look like the crab apples I know, unless it is a John Downie (which I don't know). Crab apple jelly?

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• 28. At 5:25pm on 05 Sep 2009, Looternite wrote:

  #26. David_McNickle
  That's why I left school, when I did.
  I think women don't understand that men are stuck in childish mode all their lives.
  Still I don't want, and never intended, to upset anyone.
  Now don't you start getting crabby.

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• 29. At 5:29pm on 05 Sep 2009, David_McNickle wrote:

  Ln 28, I like to upset fellow Diberal Lemocrats. Hey, Huge Farmers Marketstall is on PM.
  
  Women just want to listen to Womens Hour.

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• 30. At 5:33pm on 05 Sep 2009, David_McNickle wrote:

  Ln 29, Nick Clegg was in St Albans recently and an annoying man kept taking photos of him during the whole meeting. Clegg emailed me and I replied saying that I thought the photographer fancied him. Otherwise, why so many photos. No reply yet.

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• 31. At 5:33pm on 05 Sep 2009, David_McNickle wrote:

  Ln 29, Might have been Sid without his beard.

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• 32. At 5:44pm on 05 Sep 2009, Anne P. wrote:

  Looternite thanks for the clarification on another thread.
  
  David (23), it weren't me, if I refer anyone which I have only done very rarely, I say so openly except when it's spam.

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• 33. At 5:44pm on 05 Sep 2009, David_McNickle wrote:

  My mother always used sour cherries to make pies.
  
  SOUR CHERRIES

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• 34. At 5:46pm on 05 Sep 2009, David_McNickle wrote:

  AP 32, Well, that narrows it down.

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• 35. At 5:49pm on 05 Sep 2009, Anne P. wrote:

  David (34) I've often wondered if anyone monitors the number of lurkers on at any one time. Were the odds after elimination of me reduced to 2:1 or 2000:1 or what?

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• 36. At 5:54pm on 05 Sep 2009, David_McNickle wrote:

  AP 35, I have my suspicions... Probably more like 5:1.

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• 37. At 6:23pm on 05 Sep 2009, Big Sister wrote:

  28: I've always known this. My brother (who is three years my senior) still behaves like a twelve year old - and that's on a good day! My husband pretends he's a grown up. I, of course, know better ;o)

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• 38. At 6:33pm on 05 Sep 2009, David_McNickle wrote:

  I am listening to Loose Ends and Clive Anderson said that a female singer was accompanied by an Eddie Mair on bass. Is this our Eddie or another one with Mair spelled differently? I think we should be told.

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• 39. At 6:34pm on 05 Sep 2009, David_McNickle wrote:

  BS 37, I've never pretended to be grown up. Ask my wife.

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• 40. At 07:44am on 06 Sep 2009, Anne P. wrote:

  38: I heard that too and also wondered - then the phone rang and I had to turn the radio off before the music ended.
  
  Does Sir Eric play bass?

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• 41. At 08:31am on 06 Sep 2009, lucien desgai wrote:

  38 / 40
  I think they meant the lager.

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• 42. At 10:05am on 06 Sep 2009, David_McNickle wrote:

  AP 40, Dunno, I turned it off to do something else. We should pester Eddie about it.
  
  l_d 41, Never heard of Mair lager.

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• 43. At 10:14am on 06 Sep 2009, David_McNickle wrote:

  AP 40, Maybe Eddie coud do the version of the Upshares Downshares music. Sort of like Big Noise From Winnetka. Except I think the bass on Loose Ends was electric.
  
  WINNETKA

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• 44. At 5:09pm on 06 Sep 2009, David_McNickle wrote:

  I wonder how Ben Jonson pronounced the letter Z.

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• 45. At 5:17pm on 06 Sep 2009, David_McNickle wrote:

  AP 40, Of course, being an electrakickle guitar, maybe Eddie plays like Les Paul.
  Les Paul

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• 46. At 5:19pm on 06 Sep 2009, lucien desgai wrote:

  44 DMcN
  ... or how Liza Minnelli pronounced it.

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• 47. At 5:26pm on 06 Sep 2009, David_McNickle wrote:

  l_d 46, I'll ask her mum.

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• 48. At 5:28pm on 06 Sep 2009, David_McNickle wrote:

  l_d 46, I think I heard her say that it is Liza, with a Zee. Or was that about the spelling? I'll ask Judy.

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• 49. At 5:29pm on 06 Sep 2009, lucien desgai wrote:

  47 DMcN
  Well if she's with the straw man don't let him ride the camels.

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• 50. At 5:31pm on 06 Sep 2009, David_McNickle wrote:

  l_d 49, Or smoke them.

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• 51. At 5:33pm on 06 Sep 2009, David_McNickle wrote:

  I guess meeting with schools guvs is a waste of time.

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• 52. At 5:53pm on 06 Sep 2009, Big Sister wrote:

  38 and 40: It was a bass player called Eddie Myer. Pity it wasn't Eric, though.

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• 53. At 7:12pm on 06 Sep 2009, Lady Sue wrote:

  Val: have you tried making crab apple jelly?
  
  Big Sis: sadly my friend had a laptop but no speakers (that I could find). So frustrating to click on 'Listen Live' and know it's playing but not hear anything. Maybe PM should use subtitles for the desperate?

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• 54. At 8:59pm on 06 Sep 2009, MBtrainer wrote:

  Please give up on the Upshares/Downshares scheme - the joke has become very tired. Overdone jokes just become irritating. Three things make me switch off BBC radio 4 news and current affairs;
  1. Upshares Downshares
  2. Thought for the day
  3. Robert Peston's nerve jangling speech patterns.

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• 55. At 9:35pm on 06 Sep 2009, Looternite wrote:

  #54 MBtrainer
  
  I agree "Upshares/Downshares scheme" is now past its use by date.
  Also Thought for the Day. What on earth is that doing in a news/fact based program, and certain groups are banned (humanists etc.).
  However Pesto's speech paterns are a refressing change.

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• 56. At 11:02pm on 06 Sep 2009, ValeryP wrote:

  Lady Sue - not for a few years, but they're so prolific this year that I may have another go. Sloes looking good too :-)

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• 57. At 11:18pm on 06 Sep 2009, Big Sister wrote:

  "Subtitles for the Desperate". D'you know, Lady Sue, I think that would make a fabulous title for a novel!
  
  Sorry about the speakers though .... And welcome back!

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• 58. At 00:39am on 07 Sep 2009, annasee wrote:

  MB trainer & Looternite - now steady on chaps. I know the Upshares Downshares theme has had its day (didn't Eddie say weeks ago "No more!"?)but GM & I have only just recorded & sent in our entry to "PM's got Talent", so give us a chance, will you? Honestly, you'll love it if you ever get to hear it. It's got a little something extra - a bonus if you like- though not as big as a banker's, obviously!

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• 59. At 04:10am on 07 Sep 2009, Dryopithecus wrote:

  L_S 53: You could always try earphones. Most (or many) computers have an earphone socket on the front, typically 3.5mm stereo. Dry.

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• 60. At 12:54pm on 07 Sep 2009, Looternite wrote:

  #58 annasee
  I will look forward to the "feam toon" witten by and performed by annasee.

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• 61. At 2:04pm on 07 Sep 2009, Looternite wrote:

  #58 annasee
  Further thought; do you imagine that the BBC takes any notice of listeners. They will do what they intend to do no matter what we say.

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• 62. At 2:10pm on 07 Sep 2009, billtheburger wrote:

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