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• 1. At 5:23pm on 25 Sep 2009, ExpectingtheEnd wrote:

  I didn't agree with a word you said but I would die for your right to say it.
  (From the Book of Hypocritical Pontifications) (:-)
  Would yoiu have got away with saying what a good programme iPM is as a defence of PM if Eddie had been interviewing and you had been editor?
  I like 'Up/DownSh/Stairs'. This crash was always about class and them upstairs ain't hurting at all, whilst downstairs it's murder.

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• 2. At 5:30pm on 25 Sep 2009, quack1652 wrote:

  Hope the PM team will not be browbeaten and carries on with the good work, trying to maintain a two-way link with its audience. The tone of the programme, with some light and personal touches, seems a fine balance to me. There are plenty of other kinds of news programmes. PM is unique. Hands off!

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• 3. At 5:42pm on 25 Sep 2009, Sid wrote:

  Is Roger out of hospital yet?
  
  

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• 4. At 6:48pm on 25 Sep 2009, newlach wrote:

  "That which does not kill us makes us stronger."
  
  You were put through the mill, and came out on the wheat pile! Rigorous Feedback interviews, however, are essential so that radio listeners and licence-fee payers can see who is and who is not performing to a high standard.

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• 5. At 7:28pm on 25 Sep 2009, Gillianian wrote:

  Bravo, Jo!
  One little query though - Roger Bolton suggested that PM's approach to some items was appropriate for a magazine programme, but not for a news programme such as PM.
  I know I'm not alone here in considering PM to be a magazine, based on current affairs rather than news per se, and as such the mix of the sublime and the ridiculous is fully justified and much enjoyed and appreciated.
  But it made me wonder - how do you and the rest of the team see it?

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• 6. At 9:28pm on 25 Sep 2009, JotheEditrice wrote:

  Hmm, interesting point Gillian (5) or are you Ian? I think when Roger says magazine, he means feature programmes like Front Row etc which tend to consist of 3-4 'articles'. At the other end of the spectrum are the news bulletins, and PM, whilst it sits firmly in the news camp, is definitely a programme rather than a bulletin. We can't and don't cover every story every day, and we use many formats to tell stories- correspondents, discussions (discos in the parlance) and of course, Eddie and Sequinn's marvelous interviews. Oh blimey, it's late on Friday evening and your probing question has defeated me for now. Will have a glass of wine and a little think. Jo

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• 7. At 10:33pm on 25 Sep 2009, Molly wrote:

  I heard thee interview and was pleased to hear Jo stand her ground . I agree with Gillian and have the expectation that PM will contain a mix of both serious and light-hearted items. The presentors'skill allows this 'magazine' programme to entertain and inform. Just what is needed when travelling home.
  Personally i have had enough of the fun of listening to versions of the 'Upshares' theme . My only complaint.........

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• 8. At 11:10pm on 25 Sep 2009, pithywriter wrote:

  Get Max Keiser on the upshare thingie - forget Robert Pesten Max is the genius at economics and does not use any B.S. bla bla
  The following link will take you to his site ... then look for the latest 'News Interview' a You Tube clip to the right...
  Perhaps an interview with The Chancellor (who is he) and Max Keiser - now that would be a real news show! enjoy http://maxkeiser.com/category/max-keiser-videos/

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• 9. At 11:47pm on 25 Sep 2009, annasee wrote:

  Just listened to the interview. Well done Jo - you gave as good as you got. Ever thought of standing for politics? I liked the way you fought back with your emails!

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• 10. At 05:11am on 26 Sep 2009, funnyJoedunn wrote:

  Just listened to the interview.
  
  I'm afraid I have to agree with the listener who complained about the weather forecast trivia. I was one of a very few lone voices at the time of running this ridiculousness who made known my disbelief at at such trivia on the prog through the blog. Joe, you said this item was in response to a listener who couldn't remember the weather forecast. It turned out from the huge response that there were many others who had the same problem. However, (and here is where it gets controversial for me) you played about in a kind of slap-stick way with music and sound effects without questioning the fundamental premise. Perhaps the reason most people forget things like weather forecast is because they have no real or relevant need to remember it! But this was never questioned by you or those who couldn't remember it. And, how many can remember what they heard on up-shares/down-shares half an hour later unless it really affected them...trivial music or not? No my premise is, if you going to investigate and question things like this, do a proper job and include the reason, or lack of reason for the existence of these items on the prog.

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• 11. At 10:58am on 26 Sep 2009, steelpulse wrote:

  Joanna
  
  Can I just say - I STILL listen to PM. Yes it can be faulted but what couldn't be? Apart from Ms Quinn of course! lol
  
  Listening your "cage fight" - sorry - your Feedback interview with Bolton I thought of that Raymond Snoody TV trail where all you here him say rather peevishly - sorry Ray - "And WHAT have you got to say to the viewers/listeners?"
  
  I always laugh. The BBC care what I the viewer/listener thinks?
  
  Yeah - right!
  
  If you do not try things - and the majority of them have worked in my view. Hugh Sykes reports always enthral and have done more to make me try understand "overseas" possible war zones than hearing of the dreadful events and casualties warfare always bring.
  
  I will continue to listen to PM and all that works and doesn't work. A good radio programme in progress - towards an excellent one we can hope.
  
  

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• 12. At 11:16am on 26 Sep 2009, Gillianian wrote:

  Thanks Jo, and Molly. I wasn't really probing - just musing, really. It doesn't matter to me how PM is described by others - I listen to it precisely because of the variety of formats, miscellany of subject matter, and quality of interviewers and correspondents that you mention. Oh... and because of the clever way it's all put together by the Editors, of course!
  And now I can't get rid of the image of you all having a disco in the Glass Box!
  Where's David McNickle.......?

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• 13. At 11:20am on 26 Sep 2009, lucien_desgai wrote:

  ... in one of his sheds.

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• 14. At 12:18pm on 26 Sep 2009, David_McNickle wrote:

  Gill 12, I commented on JC's appearance on Feedback yesterday and the whole blog went haywire.
  
  l_d 13, Three Buttocks to you!

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• 15. At 12:47pm on 26 Sep 2009, lucien_desgai wrote:

  14 McNick
  I've only got one pair of hands.

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• 16. At 4:39pm on 26 Sep 2009, moneli wrote:

  I also disagree with your view, PM was and should be a news programme. I think business reporting is trivialised by using a comic title "upstairs/downshares" and a jokey signature tune. A fall in shares causes firms to go bust, jobs to be lost and pensions to fall dramatically. Its no joke out in the real world.

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• 17. At 4:52pm on 26 Sep 2009, lucien_desgai wrote:

  Sorry moneli, but the real world extends far beyong the City.
  Attributing too much importance to financial markets and the people who run them is what got us into this mess.

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• 18. At 4:55pm on 26 Sep 2009, lucien_desgai wrote:

  (*far beyond!)

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• 19. At 6:29pm on 26 Sep 2009, moneli wrote:

  LD, my view is that the broader issue of business reporting i.e. not focused solely on the FTSE 100 index, was/is not taken seriously by this editorial approach and elsewhere in the BBC. So government and company hyperbole runs unchecked and here we are up the creek, no paddle and surrounded by crocodiles...

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• 20. At 9:51pm on 26 Sep 2009, ExpectingtheEnd wrote:

  17. 'Attributing too much importance'?
  Don't you mean that they HAVE too much importance, and too much power?
  If they increase their wealth by bidding up their own paper assets they annexe wealth rightfully everybody's. They thus decide money shall be spent on luxuries rahter than schools and hospitals.
  Governments are shackled by them because they have real power and because we are too timid or too compromised to take it away from them.
  We all seem brainwashed, despite the recent difficulties, into believing markets sacred. No one now believes the City is the proof of that.

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• 21. At 10:54am on 27 Sep 2009, David_McNickle wrote:

  l_d 15, It takes two hands to handle a Whopper.

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• 22. At 11:05am on 27 Sep 2009, lucien_desgai wrote:

  22 DMcN
  Mine's without cheese.

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• 23. At 11:06am on 27 Sep 2009, lucien_desgai wrote:

  I really shouldn't have posted that ... I'm thinking of referring myself.

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• 24. At 11:39am on 27 Sep 2009, funnyJoedunn wrote:

  David, (21)
  How do you know?

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• 25. At 3:40pm on 27 Sep 2009, David_McNickle wrote:

  fJd 24, Because the Burger King advert says so.

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• 26. At 8:32pm on 27 Sep 2009, sirnews wrote:

  I think you put across your points extremely well. Granted, PM is not to everyone's taste. As licence-fee payers, we are all entitled to hold an opinion. As a licence-fee payer, I like the programme; as ever, RB and Feedback were really only interested in the nay-sayers.
  
  Personally, I greatly enjoy PM's unique flavour in the news smorgasbord - keep it up! Those who do not like it can turn off until the Six starts.
  
  Eddie Mair is the guv'nor and a far better listen IMHO than the News Rottweillers who inhabit R4 from 0600-0900.....

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• 27. At 9:00pm on 27 Sep 2009, lucien_desgai wrote:

  The news smorgasbord is just a read herring.

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• 28. At 1:57pm on 28 Sep 2009, theotherdaughter wrote:

  Didn't hear Feedback, so can't comment on that - broadly I like things as they are. On my way home from work I don't want a news programme in the format of Today - much to severe.
  
  At times I get annoyed (like the Upshares theme tune) but frequently things raised in a light hearted way can underline real problems. If most of us are not registering the weather forecast, then is the Beeb wasting a lot of time and money putting it out. Maybe a rethink is in order there.
  
  Just realised that nobody is likely to see this as I am days after the most recent post - sorry - been away from my desk for a couple of days.
  
  If you have read this (as someone used to say) - thank you.
  
  tod

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• 29. At 8:12pm on 28 Sep 2009, nasigoreng wrote:

  Being 53 I am not one of the younger listeners, but I *love* PM just the way it is. Eddie is so easy on the ear, deceptively incisive in his skillful and friendly questioning and if anyone finds the programme too 'light' there's always the World Service News...
  Please don't change anything except, possibly, get Eddie to do Any Questions all the time...as long as he doesn't leave PM. The lighter and more polite touch does not mean his questioning and comment are any the less serious. As a previous commenter said - a change from the Rottweiler style which has had its day.

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• 30. At 8:13pm on 28 Sep 2009, nasigoreng wrote:

  ...and another thing...I never forget the weather when Rob McElwee delivers it. Others find the same. What has he got that the others lack?

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• 31. At 07:43am on 29 Sep 2009, Sid wrote:

  theotherdaughter - some of us read everything, you know!
  
  Thank you!
  

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