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Sequin | 16:31 UK time, Thursday, 10 September 2009

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Hello, welcome to your glass box where you can make comments about tonight's PM programme. Jeremy Rawlins is the Editor, and he will be analysing the programme with the producers involved in our own glass box at 6pm. Add your thoughts here, if you can.
Thanks, Carolyn

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  • 1. At 4:52pm on 10 Sep 2009, Dennis Junior wrote:

    Carolyn and Jeremy;

    About the GM story & the selling to OPEL....

    =Dennis Junior=

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  • 2. At 5:10pm on 10 Sep 2009, jiffle wrote:

    "Canadian Car Company takes over Vauxha..." - wait! Cananada has a Car Company?!!!

    [With credit to the late, lamented SatireWire]

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  • 3. At 5:18pm on 10 Sep 2009, lucien desgai wrote:

    1 =DJ=
    Good point!

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  • 4. At 5:44pm on 10 Sep 2009, jiffle wrote:

    Apropos of nothing, but made me laugh...

    SatireWire Charts - Ask the Startled

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  • 5. At 6:08pm on 10 Sep 2009, normanmugabe wrote:

    I watched women's football once; but there was no blood and they didn't exchange shirts at the end. So what's the point?

    (We still have swallows flying above us - anybody else?)

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  • 6. At 6:09pm on 10 Sep 2009, nikki noodle wrote:

    IMHO the car company sale is to do with pension liabilities.

    When the 'new' company doesnt make it, the 'old' company will already be free of all present and past pension costs.

    Which is legal.

    Sadly.

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  • 7. At 6:28pm on 10 Sep 2009, Lady Sue wrote:

    Gosh Nikki@6, that's a bit worrying for the workers.

    I hadn't a clue who the woman on death row was or what she'd done to deserve the death penalty, so found this piece interesting. I don't see why her supporters should not have taken this opportunity to 'publicise' her on the plinth as it appears to be in keeping with the basic reason behind the installation. As it seems to be the season for letting people out of prison (Biggs and the Lockerbie bomber), it will be interesting to find out what happens as a result. Could we have some more details about her and her situation please?

    Did anyone come up with the names of the other three plinth statues WITHOUT googling?

    Another lively, varied and interesting programme. Well done team!

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  • 8. At 6:32pm on 10 Sep 2009, Richard_SM wrote:


    Football

    Sequin is trying to make an 'issue' out of this. It's quite simple: men can watch men's football, women can watch women's football.


    Fourth Plinth

    What an excellent idea to use the plinth to highlight a case. Well done Reprieve!


    Cycling

    We cycle for leisure about twice a week. We often take bikes when we go away at weekends. Keeping off the roads as much as possible is the safest option. Better to risk getting a small fine by riding on pavements than get sucked under an articulated truck - or knocked down by car drivers busy texting, checking their hair in mirror etc. There are often potholes in roads, which may seem quite small for motorists, but can send you sprawling if you hit them, and if you swerve around them, you risk being hit by drivers not paying attention. It's a no brainer - the path is the better option. I've never been fined, or knocked over.

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  • 9. At 6:37pm on 10 Sep 2009, Richard_SM wrote:


    Here's a link to the story of the woman on death row.

    http://www.reprieve.org.uk/2009_09_10_listen_to_linda_carty

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  • 10. At 6:41pm on 10 Sep 2009, Radio4PMListener wrote:

    Am I the only person that finds Trevor Brooking from the Football Association talking about equality in football and the difference in the press coverage whilst continually refering to the Women's team as "girls" and the Men's Team as "Men" surprising. No wonder the FA is having such slow progress in promoting the Women's Game with Trevor the dinosaur in charge. Carolyn Quinn should have challenged his use of this language in relation to his thoughts on equality at the FA.

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  • 11. At 7:44pm on 10 Sep 2009, Lady Sue wrote:

    Richard@9: thanks for that link. Very interesting case and situation.

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  • 12. At 8:11pm on 10 Sep 2009, jiffle wrote:

    Except from the second paragraph of the introduction in my step-daughter's new homework book:

    "Homework is given three different ways: those subjects that will set extended Independent Learning tasks that will take two weeks and will run on a carousel; those subjects that will set more regular shorter homework on a weekly basis; and those subjects with more regular homework on a fortnightly basis."


    A prize to anyone who understands that at the first reading and is not a civil servant or a lawyer.

    And the last time I ran on a carousel I was warned to sit down or be kicked off.

    Hint to everyone else: From reading the rest of the page I discovered that an 'Extended Independent Learning Task' is what we would call a 'Project'!

    What this sentence actually means is that homework for each subject is set in one or two week cycles, or can be a fortnightly project.

    This is supposed to be a booklet for a 13 year-old child. I get more convinced every day that the bureaucrats that run our schools have no interaction with the reality of education.

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  • 13. At 8:25pm on 10 Sep 2009, jiffle wrote:

    I am still genuinely unclear about the use of the word carousel in this context. I assume that they want to say that only one project will be running at any time, but am baffled as to why the word carousel would impart this meaning.

    After all, on a baggage carousel most of the luggage comes round all at once in a big heap and then there's a huge gap. Could that be what they mean?

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  • 14. At 8:50pm on 10 Sep 2009, franeb wrote:

    agree entirely with post no.10
    I was listening and wondered if I was the only one who felt that girls as compared to men in that context said it all

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  • 15. At 9:05pm on 10 Sep 2009, notevenjuveniles wrote:

    Re; Posts 10 and 14

    Glad I wasn't the only one to spot Mr Brooking's patronising language. It's difficult to believe that the FA’s director of football development is still using such outdated terminology in the 21st century.

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  • 16. At 9:19pm on 10 Sep 2009, pithywriter wrote:

    A separated Cycle lane in Royal College Street in which my son had a false sense of security, in Camden, London NW1 almost killed my cyclist son last August 2008. Bad ill thought out design by Camden Council meant that an unwitting driver (could have been you or me - or my son as he drives too) driving northerly on this north direction one way road took a permitted left turn into Pratt street and knocked my son off his bike who was traveling south. (cycle lane two way - road one way) The reason being he naturally assumed that the cyle lane too was one-way north so he was craning his neck around to try and see if the cycle lane was clear north to south and did not see my son approaching south to north. When I contacted the local cycle campaign group ( who I believe helped to design this stupid situation) they were bureaucratic in their response and refused to see the error in the situation - so riteous was their contact person that cycle lanes were 'correct politically' right or wrong. So they would not reconsider their stance which was very disappointing as they (or email spokesperson) was behaving like a council official. The situation remains as dangerous today. Some local builders called the ambulance ( my son was dazed and bruised) said that they watched near misses and minor incidents at the junction there every day!
    In London Royal College Street NW1 is part of the RED Route menace where speeds of 40 MPH between 4pm and 7pm and morning too are normal are accepted by council and Transport for London. This is the real problem which is (incidentally) killing the Camden Town High Street which is part of the same gyratory! Why have we got Red Routes at all in built up areas??? The congestion charge made no difference as charges are just passed on! Could Pm look into this whole situation that could have caused my son's death. thank you

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  • 17. At 10:01pm on 10 Sep 2009, bradstockuk wrote:

    Re the garbled description of homework by jiffle - our school does not have any more homework, just ELOs! The lucky youngsters are expected to indulge in Extended Learning Opportunities. I think this must be an example of Mr Bluesky thinking.

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  • 18. At 09:15am on 11 Sep 2009, Sid wrote:

    jiffle - the carousel analogy makes more sense if you think of the original 'roundabout' meaning.

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  • 19. At 09:52am on 11 Sep 2009, Sid wrote:

    Photographer - I like your style.

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  • 20. At 10:12am on 11 Sep 2009, tfalcon wrote:

    The plinth is an open forum to one, other and all. Although I don't know to what extent applications are vetted.
    I proposed an almost identical project to the Anthony Gormley Fourth Plinth project way back in 2002. I have recently been in touch with RSA to find out what happened to my proposal, it was apparently forwarded to GLA and their records can't be traced prior to 2005. Interesting that it took a very well known artist - dare I say a member of the art nobility -to get his project on the plinth whereas an unknown like myself didn't get a look in. Ironic when you consider that the use of the plinth for this project is to provide a platform for the voice/actions/presence of the 'common' people.

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