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Eddie Mair | 16:41 UK time, Thursday, 6 August 2009

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The Glass Box is where the PM team meets in at 18.00 every weeknight to discuss the content of the programme. If you want to let it all out in this virtual glass box, be my guest. Tonight's editor Eloise "hand wash" Twisk will read your comments and may well add her own.

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  • 1. At 4:59pm on 06 Aug 2009, David_McNickle wrote:

    fJd, No, that's not mine.

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  • 2. At 5:16pm on 06 Aug 2009, David_McNickle wrote:

    I heard at least two people say that Harry Patch was the last WWI veteran. What about that 108 year old American I heard yesterday? Or was he speaking through a medium?

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  • 3. At 5:20pm on 06 Aug 2009, David_McNickle wrote:

    Nobody here but us chickens...

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  • 4. At 5:30pm on 06 Aug 2009, Lady Sue wrote:

    LOL David@3: where does that saying come from? Used to say it in my family when I was a child.

    EDDIE! I thought that sounded like a flush!

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  • 5. At 5:32pm on 06 Aug 2009, Lady Sue wrote:

    Interesting piece on the police. Think the woman concerned is doing the right thing - calling attention to it without wanting to claim or prosecute is admirable. Very British.

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  • 6. At 5:38pm on 06 Aug 2009, crikey wrote:

    Oye you! Actually, those you use behaviourist methods to "address" "inappropriate" or perceived to be violent behaviour often use gaze avoidance. How predictable of the police who could be so much more proactive and not merely reactive. They could get a grip of more modern methods.

    Regards,

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  • 7. At 5:40pm on 06 Aug 2009, Joseph Walker wrote:

    Is it not possible to agree that the Government and Bank of England see it as extremely important that the reality of what we face as an economy and society is always denied? It is simply not true that the depth and seriousness of the recession is "unexpected". We all know this. Many, many people recognise that what we face in nearly every aspect of our lives over the next generation is uncertainty and insecurity thanks largely to the very people whose pontifications and judgements are still allowed to go almost unchallenged.

    So why portray remarks, observations and views put forward by these political and economic Establishment apparatchiks, all of whom have an agenda, as reality? It is not.

    Their is a huge body of informed opinion with a different agenda who are almost never heard. When this happens all that results is that people's experiences and own good sense suggest to them that what is being reported is departing markedly from what they daily see and feel. They then become cynical and cease to trust the reports. The result is a strong sense that journalists are conspiring with politicians, bankers and anyone else with a stake in keeping the whole miserable situation rattling along unchanged, to patronise and confuse a population who are heartily sick with what has been done to them over the last year.

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  • 8. At 5:54pm on 06 Aug 2009, funnyJoedunn wrote:

    Edwina Curry lives just down the road from me. I'm sorry, she knows what shes talking about when she talked about Germain Harman sounding like a middle class over educated...whatever it was. Because thats just how most of them sound coming from where me and Eddie (Currie) live. We are sick and tired being lectured by these overpaid, privileged truth suppressors who's main priority,when it comes down it,are their own ids education...everyone else comes a poor second. And I've never voted conservative!Yet!

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  • 9. At 5:56pm on 06 Aug 2009, Highwayman8155 wrote:

    Just heard Biggs will be let out with restrictions on his movements. Do you think he will be allowed on trains?

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  • 10. At 5:56pm on 06 Aug 2009, funnyJoedunn wrote:

    Me (8)

    Put a k in front of ids please

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  • 11. At 5:56pm on 06 Aug 2009, jch_in_uk wrote:

    Did I just heard Dean Armstrong, the lawyer, say on PM that there is "no victim until someone is proved guilty"? So, the victims of "Jack the Ripper" died of old age? I think if I've been mugged I'm stili a victim even if no one comes to court for the crime.

    jch

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  • 12. At 5:57pm on 06 Aug 2009, Joseph Walker wrote:

    Harriet Harman's tour around the studios today has very little to do with women and far more to do with distracting attention from the appalling economic situation that has been highlighted this week. Has anyone asked her about it since she's supposed to be in charge at the moment?

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  • 13. At 6:02pm on 06 Aug 2009, funnyJoedunn wrote:

    David (1)

    I want to pee in the box!

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  • 14. At 6:05pm on 06 Aug 2009, Sid wrote:

    I'm with Joan Smith. EC's idea that one could be 'over-educated' is quite ludicrous.

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  • 15. At 6:09pm on 06 Aug 2009, Joseph Walker wrote:

    Naive Question for Nils Blythe

    Instead of creating more money for banks with the click of a computer mouse, why is it out of the question (as presumably it is) that the same cannot be done instead for my bank account? If a balance can simply be increased by changing the numbers on a computer screen is it not possible to do this for everyone in the country direct to their accounts?

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  • 16. At 6:16pm on 06 Aug 2009, Joseph Walker wrote:

    Learning lessons


    There has been much talk about the police 'learning lessons' from the tactics they deployed at the G8 and other protests over the last year. But haven't the real lessons been learned by the public and anyone who might be thinking of protesting about anything over the next few years?

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  • 17. At 6:20pm on 06 Aug 2009, Highwayman8155 wrote:

    Joseph Walker(16). They can. In fact when the credit crunch hit, the Australian Government gave everyone what they described as a tax rebate. I think it was for $950AU. Whether it worked is anyones guess but everyone was pleased to receive it and many of my Ozzy friends went out and spent it just as the government wanted.

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  • 18. At 6:23pm on 06 Aug 2009, Lady Sue wrote:

    Anyone else think Harriet Harman's days are numbered?

    Smacks of 'The Sorcerer's Apprentice' - boy is she in trouble.

    fJD@8: I thought Edwina sounded rather 'educated'. I suppose that's alright is it because she comes from the north and has, er, bettered herself?

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  • 19. At 6:27pm on 06 Aug 2009, Joseph Walker wrote:

    Highwayman8155 (17)

    So, instead of giving it to the banks they could have given it straight to us. What are the reasons they didn't? I have a shocking overdraft, which, in current circumstances is looking very scary. What I could have done with some of that cash!

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  • 20. At 6:33pm on 06 Aug 2009, U14081247 wrote:

    Actually Joseph, this situation favours the indebted over the solvent. The more you owe, the better discount you get on repaying with inflation-devalued coin.

    I'm solvent.
    ;-(

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  • 21. At 6:33pm on 06 Aug 2009, funnyJoedunn wrote:

    Sid (14)

    Still worse Sid if you only sound like it!

    Perhaps one might be able to extrapolate from what was said as, although you (as someone with certain political interests...not of the Tory type) would care to pick up on, and debate semantics, The vast majority of the 90 odd thousand folks in curries late constituency and the the majority of the 4,172,174 who live in the region has a whole would agree with her. That how the majority see things and thats how we communicate contrary to BBC English myths. And thats all that counts in an election aint it? I.e., Whether you connect with your constituents and speak their language! It was Eddie the politico talking.

    And yes, I have met over educated people (usually private educated and gone onto perhaps one of the Ox-bridges). So over educated, that have had gut emotional responses and any freak genetically past down gutter grit they may have been born with educated out of them. They strike me as quite sterile people...I agree with Eddie!

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  • 22. At 6:35pm on 06 Aug 2009, Highwayman8155 wrote:

    Joseph Walker (19)
    I'm not an expert by any means but the thinking goes that if they give the money to the people directly they will either save it or pay off debt. What they want is for the money to be spent and go round the economy and stimulate it.

    So what they did is give it to the banks in the hope they would lend it out and stimulate business. What we have of course seen is that the banks have used it to reduce exposure (a sort of corporate save and pay off debt).

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  • 23. At 6:36pm on 06 Aug 2009, steelpulse wrote:

    Dean Armstrong? I took down his name.

    Sorry to sound rude - but "Listen with Mother" radio programme came back. I listen to everyone on my radio now and disbelieve them. Joan Smith, Edwina Currie etc.

    Sorry but Robert Peston and Ms Flanders were sort of ignored. Nowt to see here.

    But Mr Armstrong and his take on how the Law Courts deals with us mere mortals. Sorry Mr Armstrong but it is in my opinion - tosh!

    I have been doing DIY this afternoon and thinking the country cannot afford to lose the Patches and Allinghams of the world but we just have.

    Given my time again - I would be quiet until my 100th birthday but who knew it would cause such a fuss?

    Subject: twelve to see in August - why women really lose weight
    Anagram: Senate Wives ogle Tutu - sergio leone www - hey - all myth

    All myth indeed, Eddie.

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  • 24. At 6:36pm on 06 Aug 2009, jonnie wrote:

    AARRGGGGH!

    Look at those tiles and the colour of that bathroom suite. I hope it's not Eddies ;-)

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  • 25. At 6:48pm on 06 Aug 2009, Comment_r wrote:

    Re discussion with JS/EC/EM

    It's interesting that, in the issues that were listed as being more pressing, the relevance of equality wasn't picked up. Equality needs to permeate everything we do not just be an 'add on' that is considered after 'everything else' has been achieved - this is exactly the approach that has given us the socially unjust society we now live in. Equality is not just about rights and opportunity (although these are important parts of it).

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  • 26. At 6:48pm on 06 Aug 2009, Highwayman8155 wrote:

    Treebeard (20). Except that anyone who is struggling with debt at low interest rates is going to be slaughtered when the interest rates go back up (which they will). The real effects of the recession will only manifest themselves when the interest rate rise and it won't be much fun. You might have noticed that the politicians are not talking about this yet!

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  • 27. At 8:54pm on 06 Aug 2009, Cossackgirl wrote:

    I am sure that Jack Straw's compassion for Ronnie Biggs is resting on solid medical grounds and this is just a sad ending due any minute now.
    But the Guardian has recently reminded us of Mr Straw's compassion for Pinochet in 2000 removing him from the reach of Spanish judges.
    I remember only too well the frail Augusto Pinochet slumped in his wheelchair, blanket on his knees, in his eyes - confusion of an early-onset senile dementia, on his way to the airport in this country...
    ... and the amazing transformation of General Pinochet back in Chile, rising from his wheelchair upon arrival, straight as a lance, keen-eyed as a hawk and bright as a button. How his comrades cheered; how thousands wept.
    I don't like what I know about Mr Biggs, but wouldn't it be a delicious irony if....

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  • 28. At 11:13pm on 06 Aug 2009, Big Sister wrote:

    Lady Sue: There ain't nobody here but us chickens - A line from a wonderful song that I know sung by the great Phil Harris and if there were audio on this Blog I'd sing it for you.

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  • 29. At 11:23pm on 06 Aug 2009, Big Sister wrote:

    Lady Sue: I can't find a track online of Phil singing that song (though he certainly did - I have it on track here!, but here's another favourite

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uk-AlDLvTvY

    Then there's Woodman spare that Tree, and lots of other funny songs.

    If you look online, you can find Louis Jordan singing Nobody here but us Chickens.

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  • 30. At 02:32am on 07 Aug 2009, freedomtothink wrote:

    our dear friend Dr liam
    said that anyone off work now with swine flu would have to answer their employers questions when they claim swine flu later in the year for their absence from work.i have that diagnosis by the nhs internet site,because i've been told not to go to my doctor,i am off work for the next five days and until my symptoms pass. Therefore the advice is don't bother your doctor but as the arch duke of health will also advice employers to question any further absence from work under this "diagnosis" .i am aware that nhs staff are being told that that you can catch swine flu again ,because the flu is morphing. i believe that the director of public health should either keep on message or tell the truth.he should also be aware that a strong line of questioning by employers might be countered by his own departments advice and that his sort of scaremongering is counter productive.
    if he wants the public to act responsibliy then he needs to do the same

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  • 31. At 3:19pm on 08 Aug 2009, Charlie wrote:


    Big Sis 28
    Lady_Sue

    This site, I believe will allow you to hear ac short "clip" of the song you're refering to, along with others from the great man...


    http://www.hbdirect.com/album_detail.php?pid=311438

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  • 32. At 11:11pm on 08 Aug 2009, Big Sister wrote:

    Charlie (31): Thanks for that link. I happen to have (and treasure) that particular album. I frequently wonder how many cigarettes it took to hone his voice to that particular pitch? His version of 'Chickens' is, I think, the very best, with that lovely rolling piano work.

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