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Good Morning Eddie and the staff....
Story for idea: United Kingdom helicopters not safe in the Afghan Front....
-Dennis Junior-
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Interesting story...big news in the Telegraph. We may well have a look.
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I hope (you) used...it!!!!
~Dennis Junior~
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Cinema Nuisance
I was recently at the cinema and towards the front there were two people disturbing the viewing. They made noisy comments, used foul language etc. And were not put off by other viewers shhhushing them. I went to the ushers outside and asked them to fetch security to have these people removed before I removed them. Nothing was done and no one came to resolve the matter. After a further 10 minutes I went to speak to the offending persons.
I gave one 6 to 8 taps on the cheek with my hand in the style of a US/Italian gangster. This got their attention. I told them they must be quiet or else they would be removed. Excuse me! said one. No excuse me I said shut up and be told and with my index finger indicating this was an instruction not to be disobeyed I returned to my seat amid cheers from the audience. The miscreants left soon after.
Job Done!
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............ is paved with good intentions.
How many years now but it still scars me? I am currently listening the Road To Hell Part Two by Chris Rea. The Part Two is relevant.
I once chose what I thought was this song on a pub juke box and noting it is Part One too that is still the most popular track on a song website for Rea - I think I wasn't alone in choosing to play the songs intro of dire in tone voice overs in several differnt languages and twanging guitar. Part One by itself is a downer.
Standing there in that hostelry with my work friends - after insisting they discover the songs worth - I looked around for a hole to crawl into. As a part of a package it is great song but the two Parts need to be together.
I now use Part One to describe PM to myself, Eddie.
Moor, bad news, moor, bad news.
So hey - let us have some good news. I wasn't paying attention to Edge pass'em yesterday and we drew with the Aussies. Oops a daisey!
Subject: the beauty genes - the car boot code - the car boot code
Anagram: USA gene - they bet - Booth cede actor - he cad to october
October? I hope I got THAT wrong. The thing about "promises" - you are meant to keep at least one once in a while. Unless they are "political promises" - allegedly.
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Eddie (2):
What's big news in the Telegraph?
"Immigrants Steal Helicopter Armour"?
"Jeremy Clarkson Foils Australian Terrorists"?
"Michael Jackson Poisoned Biggest Carp?"
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/sussex/8182558.stm
Yet more fatuous references to the Equalities and Human Rights Commission.
And a solicitor getting on the bandwagon. Can't these eejits see that the furniture shop owner doesn't have a problem with 'foreigners' but 'students'. This problem would be the same wherever the students came from if they didn't understand the common courtesy that one shouldn't take food and drink into a furniture shop.
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Steve_Bocking - Name and Shame the cinema concerned !!! They should be ashamed of themselves for not doing anything about the disturbance.
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There has been a story regarding a woman from Luton who has given birth to 13 children and is expecting her 14th. Luton social services have taken the others into care. She has vowed to keep having babies until she gets to keep one. I would imagine that the social services dept have good reason for their actions and yet now that this woman has gone for max publicity some human rights group will take up her case and then a baby will be born into a high risk enviroment but her rights will satisfied.
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We can all make up vigilante stories to get friends
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Making A Stand - By Sit-In Protest
Vestas is going to court again today to seek repossession of the Newport factory and end the 'green jobs' sit-in. The workers are refusing to budge.
The two Palestinian families evicted from their homes in East Jerusalem are now sitting in front of their homes in protest at their evictions. The families, inculding the children, are refusing to budge.
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Well, I was going to seek inspiration from yesterdays PM Newsletter. But can only find uo-to last Friday's.
Apart from the newsletter itself, have I missed something..?
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Great to see that the old 'greater manoueverability' [sp?] line is being spun on the lack of armour on the helicopters...
Since the defence was meant to be made from Kevlar I wouldn't have thought this was much of any issue, but maybe it is meant to spare the blushes of the MoD / Government ministers.
Any thoughts ?
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Has PM covered Swine Flu?
http://www.latimes.com/features/health/la-sci-pneumonia4-2009aug04,0,6872284.story
"Pneumonia vaccine may help limit swine flu deaths
Most of the serious consequences linked to the H1N1 virus are the result of pneumonia, but the Pneumovax vaccine is underused.
...there will be little that can slow the spread of the virus for the next few months.
But there may yet be something that can be done to reduce hospitalizations and deaths associated with the virus, commonly known as swine flu, public health authorities say.
Most of the serious consequences linked to the virus are the result of pneumonia, and an underused vaccine called Pneumovax... has the potential to prevent an estimated one-third of pneumonia deaths linked to swine flu.
"We would certainly like to see the vaccine used more extensively," said Dr. William Schaffner, chairman of the preventive medicine department at Vanderbilt University School of Medicine and president-elect of the National Foundation for Infectious Diseases...
...But those recommendations have apparently slipped by largely unnoticed, Schaffner said..."
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Does anyone else suspect the Swine Flu scare to be a government ploy to divert attention from wars and expenses scandals?
Apparently, though it is a new strain, it is no more threatening than any other flu and only "serious" if someone in a high risk category catches it.
Would PM consider exposing the hype for the nonsense it is?
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Tbird 10, Everything I say here is made up, including my name.
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Lady Sue, the problem over the pandemic all along has been that if we hadn't prepare for it and it turns out to be as bad as 1918 then everyone would want to hang the authorities out to dry for negligence. There is no doubt that we are now at the beginning of a pandemic and whether the virus remains relatively benign or turns nasty will only be known after the event. As for the press 'hype' I do agree that the media would love to have a disaster story to sell - until the disaster hits them of course.
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David (16):
and including your number (16)?
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Dear Eddie, I am Not sure where to put this as it is aftern 10am.
Please return to the great 'evening light up the parks story' ('reclaim the nights' story)you covered yesterday. Here are my thoughts on what you could cover. I am in Paris at present and enjoy the paris plage (there are 3 or 4 of them) day and evenings til mid night. But not only for Gangs etc,they are FREE for everyone, families and older people too. Each evening there are 'Balls' (Guangettes) great for bringing the elderly and isolated down from their lonely flats to have a dance. They get all dressed up every night for July and August (1 month). Plus there is a cinema in the La Villete park every evening a different film for one month - again free... When I am in Spain and Italy - I see that everyone comes out in the evenings families and elderly too - also in ~Copenhagen I noticed. They don't have 'boozer' pubs but bars that cater for all - not just drunks llike UK does! Imagine how different our town centres would be if the UK licenising authorities insisted on pubs catering for a 'promenade' culture instead of getting youth drunk!!!???? Let UK copy these ideas instead of wringing our hands
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Here's some news...
I've received today's PM Newsletter in my inbox. The first time it's been delivered to me for, I'd guess, about 8-months..!
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Anne P: thanks for yours. I suspect the government and NHS might have been able to deal with it all rather more discreetly and agree that generally speaking the media love a disaster.
Thank goodness PM also looks "on the brighter side of life".
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D_M 16
Given your response, I'm now formulating a question to ask you based on the following 'Logic" exercise:
"What question should the Princess ask?"
A Princess visits an island inhabited by two tribes. Members of one tribe always tell the truth, and members of the other tribe always lie.
The Princess comes to a fork in the road. She needs to know which road leads to the castle so as to avoid the fire-breathing dragon and rescue the prince from the wizard holding him captive in the castle. (Although the Princess doesn't know it, the south road leads to the castle and the north road leads to the dragon.)
Standing at this fork in the road is a member of each tribe, but the princess can't tell which tribe each belongs to. What question should she ask to find the road to the castle?
Simply asking which road leads to the castle won't help. The answer won't tell us which native is lying and which native is telling the truth. However, we really only need to talk to one of the natives. The trick is to ask a question where the response will be the same from both natives: a question that incorporates how a member of the tribe not answering would respond to the same question.
For example, what if we say to one of the natives, "If I asked a member of the tribe you don't belong to which road I should take to get to the castle, what would he say?"
If we ask a truthteller, the response will be: "He would say to take the north road." The road to the castle is the south road so the liar will tell us to take the north road, and the truthteller will faithfully report this to us.
If we ask a liar, the response will be: "He would say to take the north road."
The road to the castle is the south road and the truthteller will tell us to take the south road, but the liar will not report this faithfully to us - he will say the opposite. In both cases we'll get the same response. We should do the opposite of what we have been told because, regardless of whether we are speaking to a liar or a truthteller, our question will always produce the wrong answer to which road we should take.
Now, David...
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DMNC, RE Charlie's (22)
Heres a clue...or maybe not...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yG24ohpacDk
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I hadn't received a "Newsletter" for months and today, have received two.
Thank goodness someone's had the sense to put Rupert back-in-charge of the Beeb's internet systems.
Stay in position please Rupert. I, if no one else need you and, if I might say so, a great idea of yours to send an original and a back-up.
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This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the House Rules.
RJM: We get regular visits from army 'copters here - not that we're near any airfield or training ground, but one of our neighbours has a son who is an army helicopter pilot and he regularly diverts to pay airborne respects to mater and pater. I get very cheesed off with it as he hovers just overhead - the noise is frightful, and he often visits very late at night. Plus, as a taxpayer, I wonder just how much aviation fuel is being wasted in this way ....
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Charlie (22):
She should have updated her satnav before leaving the palace. Or hired the A-Team to rescue the prince. Or just find a nice plumber or computer programmer to settle down with; fewer dragons, and less waving and talking to plants than with princes.
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BS@26
And what is more, being military, you cannot even complain to the CAA. Similar response for the blue and yellow ones.
I wonder what it was that offended against the house rules. Was it....
Taliban....
Simpathy....
Shute.... spelt with oo
sunny Saturday? Of course that was it. Such a rare combination of words has to offend.
In LA the Police have armoured helicopters but in Britain the MOD cannot manage it in less than 30 years. OK, I was exaggerating - 40 years.
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RJM (25 and 28): I guess somebody doesn't share your sense of humour. I wouldn't lose any sleep over it ;o)
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BS29
I think the mods were probably right. I am not sure I was being humourous.
I live in a county that has no visible police presence other than the flying blue and yellows. I was at a party in a friend's large garden in a rather well healed district. There was no music and only about 25 people talking quietly but, unusually in this leafy road, 4 cars were parked outside the house.
This must have exited one of the neighbours who phoned the police who sent a blue and yellow at 1000 pounds an hour to see what was going on. Confronted by 25 teachers sitting quietly drinking Pimms they were so scandalised that they could not stop flying in circles.
We only got them to go away by putting out a large sign saying "Finest Hash, Best Prices" at which they immediately lost interest and flew off.
This is how they spend my Council Tax.
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Since the piggy flew seems to target the young, and came on strong in Spring/Summer, I reckon it's a Goldilocks scenario, preparing the population with a good pool of immunity going into the Autumn/Winter season.
Of course, the "system" doesn't dare admit that the best thing they could do right now is nothing. That wouldn't do at all, would it?
;-)
Punkin Jack
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Charlie 22, Princess who?
RJM 30, I'm glad your district is rather well healed. I wish it a full recovery.
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DM
Most gracious. You should have seen it before the flood. But then, you probably did.
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This evening I was listening with half an ear while preparing food. But the interview bothered me so I can't stop thinking about it. Eddie M (?) spoke to a lady (conservative? minister in charge of education?) about the news that children's results had failed to reach government targets. Not enough kiddies reach level 4. Eddie gave her a hard time and said stuff like, why are they leaving school unaable to read & write? she said, they are able to read Harry Potter books. E persisted , but they can't read and write, why not. She said, but they can read and write, but not extrapolate implied knowledge. E repeated, but why can't they read and write?
I have to say
1 Eddie himself exhibited poor level 1 listening skills; the lady said they CAN read and write but they can't use semi-colons or apostrophes (I guess they can read red-top newspapers too)
2. the government has raised the targets until they are unreachable
3 not everyone can learn their tables; I can't but hey, I can work them out and I own a calculator
4 Japan and France both have higher academic targets for kids to keach and a higher suicide level amongst schoolage kids. I would prefer my child NOT to be so pressured she takes her own life.
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RJM: I think the helicopter pilot son must be reading the Blog. He flew over us fifteen minutes ago.
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re: 26.Big Sister and Re;30 RJMolesworth
I live near a housing estate that frequently has a police helicopter flying over it and our street but they are after naughty people so it is OK.
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Naughty folk? Aye, That'll be right!
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I have been listening to the case of the eColi outbreak in Wales and the fact that the council inspected the fish & chip shop at the centre of the story within the last year and gave it 0 out of 5. I think the outcome of such inspections should be displayed on the premises and the governing council’s web site so that the public can make an informed choice when using their chippie. We have seen the benefits of transparency on MPs. Can we not have the same with our food? Surely this would drive up standards and save avoidable deaths? Can you not ask council representatives if they can do this?
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