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• 1. At 4:17pm on 30 Jun 2009, Big Sister wrote:

  bop ..... bop
  bop ..... bop
  bop .... bop
  bop .... bop
  15 all!

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• 2. At 4:19pm on 30 Jun 2009, Sid wrote:

  bop ..... aaargh!
  
  30-15
  
  

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• 3. At 4:31pm on 30 Jun 2009, U12196018 wrote:

  Who put the bomp
  In the bomp bah bomp bah bomp?
  Who put the ram
  In the rama lama ding dong?
  Who put the bop
  In the bop shoo bop shoo bop?
  Who put the dip
  In the dip da dip da dip?
  
  30 - all

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• 4. At 4:39pm on 30 Jun 2009, Big Sister wrote:

  bop ..... bop
  bop ..... bop
  boooooop .......
  ........... skrrrrrrrr ........
  30-40

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• 5. At 4:49pm on 30 Jun 2009, Fearless Fred wrote:

  Fault!.... Second service

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• 6. At 4:53pm on 30 Jun 2009, U12196018 wrote:

  Bop - FAULT!
  
  Game, set and match to Horse!

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• 7. At 4:55pm on 30 Jun 2009, Lady_Sue wrote:

  Well done Horse! In the press reports are you going to be seen as victorious Irish or British?
  
  What happened to the 'Come on Andy' pic? Has he lost?

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• 8. At 5:00pm on 30 Jun 2009, U12196018 wrote:

  Lady Sue - Being a thoroughbred, there's a lot a Arab in my bloodline. Anyway, they won't say anything about being victorious if I fail this dope test. Wish me luck.
  
  

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• 9. At 5:02pm on 30 Jun 2009, invisibleatheist wrote:

  I hate tennis.

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• 10. At 5:05pm on 30 Jun 2009, Richard_SM wrote:

  
  Deuce?
  
  No thanks, I've got a cooling cup of pure Ceylon leaf tea, which I shall enjoy whilst having a 'mini-break' and watch the T. Williams, Azarenka et al. Love all.

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• 11. At 5:10pm on 30 Jun 2009, invisibleatheist wrote:

  Lies again. Compulsion was exactly what it was, and now they have realised too many people objected and would have resisted, so they dropped it.
  ID cards for airport workers? Surely not the illegal immigrants though?
  
  
  
  

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• 12. At 5:20pm on 30 Jun 2009, invisibleatheist wrote:

  Touchingly naive these US soldiers. They think they're there to help Iraq get democracy, bless.
  
  And it's ...
  One two three what are we fighting for?
  don't ask me I don't give a damn
  Next stop is Vietnam
  
  Duh, we done that one already.
  
  http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0317-24.htm
  
  
  
  

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• 13. At 5:22pm on 30 Jun 2009, invisibleatheist wrote:

  Re gas, or LPG, don't worry about all those cars converted to run on it, unlike this train, the gas tanks in cars are proof against impact and even fire, the gas is exhausted through the valve, so burns but doesn't explode.
  

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• 14. At 5:26pm on 30 Jun 2009, Lady_Sue wrote:

  Ah Horse, I see. Good luck with the dope test.

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• 15. At 5:28pm on 30 Jun 2009, Dryopithecus wrote:

  I should think the original plan would have been for legal immigrants to have identity cards. Illegal immigrants, by definition, aren't British subjects, so they won't be eligible to have identity cards, even if they want them.
  Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe "ID" stands for "Identity Document", so the phrase "ID card" means "Identity document card", which is nonsense.
  TTFN.

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• 16. At 5:37pm on 30 Jun 2009, bright-eyedwendym wrote:

  Aren't we entering the realms of La La Land when we need to compare our economy to Turkey's to make us feel better??

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• 17. At 5:41pm on 30 Jun 2009, KateOMara wrote:

  Eddie - is Peter Gibbs doing the weather tonight?

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• 18. At 5:47pm on 30 Jun 2009, PowertotheMajority wrote:

  Hey, Gov. I can hear the jingle in your pockets Gov. Can you spare me 20p? Bet you've got loads.
  
  
  
  
  Seen this?
  
  
  [Unsuitable/Broken URL removed by Moderator]
  
  And this?
  
  http://uk.finance.yahoo.com/q?s=^FTSE
  
  No, markets don't suddenly care. The news about the severity of the slump left them unmoved.
  
  Data from America spoiled their day.
  
  
  
  I pre-commented on this at
  
  
  [Unsuitable/Broken URL removed by Moderator]
  
  I hope I get this up in time for Nils to note it.
  ----------------------------------------------
  
  For sadly Ihave since got told by Moderators everywhere that I should change my nick name.
  
  Not one of those cases like pmBleater who got banned but, as was sid at the time, still continues under their more familiar blog nick name.
  
  
  Nor like RJD who got banned and the Intermittent Horse who got banned intermittently but somehow survives here.
  
  Nor like Chris Ghoiti who has always been allowed her other Piscanus identity - bang against house rules. Fishy or what?
  
  Or like Fearless Fred who was certainly banned when he used to be....well, Fearless Fred.
  
  
  Nor Mittfe who but for his expertise would have disappeared long ago. But all bloggers live longer reading his posts. He goes deeper than the Mohole. He's more persistent than the one on the Severn and with a sense of humour of a calibre synonym. Never let him explain how he got his nickname.
  
  
  None of the above apply. The reason is that my nick name might cause someone to post 'HaleAndFarewell' as I was autobooted out.
  
  Shall I go to the Secret Council at Facebook to argue my case with the Privvy Chamber of self professed blog stars?
  
  I'd prefer it open, leaving the Facebook social group to rehearse their blog strategies in what is usually called pre-play bargaining.
  
  Well. all of the above seems a reasonable reply to people who have been offensive to me, on and off, whenever they don't like my posts.
  One has even demanded I be rude to them, presumably so that they can be even ruder back.
  
  I blog at length because I don't hear or see the views I express, and I think I am one of between 30 and 60 per cent of the population (depending on precisely which economic issue), here, or anywhere else on the BBC. When someone tells it like it is, on a particular topic, like Richard-SM (?) RJD. Brian Pleck, Joseph or one or two others I merely agree or say nowt.
  
  I naswer the endlessly repeated questions about my views from a couple or three posters only to find the same questions repeated.
  
  I find some posters always boring, so I don't bother. Others I thoroughly disagree with and I just scan them.
  
  I do think posting should in a good part be that. I don't expect to argue the Christian out of his religion but /she is welcome to post it, declare it, here. (I'll scroll on past it. No offence meant.)
  
  I know people who think the foody and inter-course alcoholic Beach as boring as boring can be. That doesn't stop them posting a bon mot there when the mood takes them. If you atheists found 20 consecutive posts on whether transubstantiation was a metaphor or a physical reality, that wouldn't stop you posting that you tohught there was no such thing as blasphemy even if you were paralysed with boredom, body and soul by talk of bread and wine in a religious context. How much more then, my bretheren....((:-)))
  
  
  This is a BBC post and as far as I am aware neither PM nor its blog have been privatised yet.
  
  
  Banning now can be temporary, at the discretion of the Moderators, so maybe that's why all of the above are back.
  
  Maybe we need a franker discussion with the Moderators.

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• 19. At 5:52pm on 30 Jun 2009, invisibleatheist wrote:

  Whoops, now she's given her number out on national radio. Oh dear...
  

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• 20. At 5:53pm on 30 Jun 2009, PowertotheMajority wrote:

  12
  
  Yeah, the song goes well with the words 'Afghan land' instead of Vietnam.
  
  I sang it with the words 'Iraq land' at the anti-Iraq War demo of Feb 2003.
  

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• 21. At 5:54pm on 30 Jun 2009, PowertotheMajority wrote:

  Does McEnroe still think he can beat the Williams sisters?

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• 22. At 5:54pm on 30 Jun 2009, PowertotheMajority wrote:

  One at a time, that is.

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• 23. At 5:59pm on 30 Jun 2009, Dryopithecus wrote:

  LPG tanks in cars are proof against impact and even fire? What are they made of?

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• 24. At 5:59pm on 30 Jun 2009, invisibleatheist wrote:

  Tea and coffee contain a diuretic, causing slightly more fluid to be passed from the body than normal, which is not the same as dehydrating the body since you are aware that you are urinating, and automatically drink some more.
  
  

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• 25. At 6:01pm on 30 Jun 2009, funnyJoedunn wrote:

  Big Sis,
  
  Thanks for stopping me. However, you seem to have taken over!

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• 26. At 6:03pm on 30 Jun 2009, invisibleatheist wrote:

  23. Dryopithecus
  
  Steel. The secret is in the thickness, tensile strength and shape of the tank/bottle, and the fact that the valve is designed to blow at excess pressure, thus giving a welding torch-like exhausting of the gas, but not an explosion.
  
  Even the refillable bottles are tested in a fire.
  
  
  

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• 27. At 6:04pm on 30 Jun 2009, PrinceEugene wrote:

  Interesting item about tea and the unscientific comments of the NHS spokesman. Perhaps you could also investigate whether we really do all need exactly five portions of fruit or veg every day, four being insufficient and six being superfluous.

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• 28. At 6:08pm on 30 Jun 2009, normanmugabe wrote:

  Drinking tea in this weather is perfectly refreshing. Unfortunately, the Brits insist on adding milk. And you find the Indians in Calcutta (Kolkata) doing the same, on the streets, in temps of +40 with the tarmac melting.
  But I once made the mistake of drinking hot coffee in the jungle in Northern Thailand and was laid up for a day with heatstroke.
  Tea is fine but I think one should avoid coffee like the ague.

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• 29. At 6:16pm on 30 Jun 2009, PowertotheMajority wrote:

  This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the House Rules.

• 30. At 6:17pm on 30 Jun 2009, invisibleatheist wrote:

  Balls is a piece of work isn't he? Why are teachers to be singled out for being insulted as professionals? Generally one expects to get better at one's job the longer one does it, not lose the ability to do it. Politicians get worse the longer they are in power, but they're a separate case.
  
  Who next? Surgeons? GPs? Lawyers???
  
  
  
  
  
  

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• 31. At 6:21pm on 30 Jun 2009, invisibleatheist wrote:

  28. normanmugabe
  
  Brits got it from India. I have an Indian recipe for Chai; as well as tea and the mix of spices it includes a liberal amount of condensed milk. Enervating but hardly refreshing.
  
  When selling it at a WOMAD music festival in Devon, the dancers from Prahalad Natak came every morning for their cups of Chai, and swore it was exactly like Indian Railways tea. Which we took as a compliment.
  
  
  
  
  

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• 32. At 6:35pm on 30 Jun 2009, robert_the_hun wrote:

  Reporting on the minor modifications to the ID card scheme made much of the fact that 'British nationals' would not be required to apply for them, and that it would be extended to all 'foreign workers'.
  
  In fact, EU, EAA and Swiss nationals do not need to get the card - possibly as they already have them!

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• 33. At 6:37pm on 30 Jun 2009, PowertotheMajority wrote:

  This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the House Rules.

• 34. At 6:40pm on 30 Jun 2009, Paul Webster wrote:

  Rapping phone numbers ... this sort of thing is why USA has reserved number for use in films (and I guess songs). That is why you see "555" used so often.
  Nowadays they have restricted the set to 555-0100 -> 555-0199
  they are reserved for "Fictitious Use".
  Obviously didn't work in this case.
  
  http://www.nanpa.com/nas/public/form555MasterReport.do?method=display555MasterReport

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• 35. At 6:41pm on 30 Jun 2009, PowertotheMajority wrote:

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• 36. At 6:56pm on 30 Jun 2009, Dryopithecus wrote:

  26, invisibleatheist
  
  I'm almost convinced! I have three concerns: 1 the weight; 2 the possibility of faulty manufacture, cutting corners, faulty welds, etc; 3 a hopefully rare scenario in which a car driven recklessly skids, turns round to bring the tanks to the front, runs into a concrete bridge support, then catches fire.
  
  Would you say that, despite the above, LPG, with well-designed tanks as you describe, would be as safe, if not safer than petrol?

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• 37. At 7:00pm on 30 Jun 2009, PowertotheMajority wrote:

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• 38. At 7:00pm on 30 Jun 2009, dennisjunior1 wrote:

  Eddie:
  
  RE: PICTURE, Excellent as always....But, I am sensitive to the strawberries....
  
  Thanks, to editor, Amanda Whispering Lewis for her part for the show...
  
  ~Dennis Junior~

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• 39. At 7:40pm on 30 Jun 2009, Chris Ghoti wrote:

  *mildly bewildered meepling noise*
  
  What is post 34 about, someone?
  
  In passing, I have never made any secret of my identity in blooging terms, and never been given any idea that this was against the House Rules, but I can't actually find a copy of those direct from here: how, apart from pretending that I want to complain about a comment at random, can I find them while staying signed on here?

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• 40. At 7:42pm on 30 Jun 2009, Chris Ghoti wrote:

  Sorry, not post 34, which is clear; post 33. I was definitely confuzzled by it; sorry Paul Webster, I didn't mean to question about you.

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• 41. At 7:51pm on 30 Jun 2009, The Stainless Steel Cat wrote:

  Chris (40):
  
  Who knows. Have the school holidays started?

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• 42. At 8:27pm on 30 Jun 2009, Chris Ghoti wrote:

  SSC @ 41, I went and looked at the House Rules (which crashed the program on the machine so that I had to sign in all over again: oh dear), and the rules about one's identity don't say anything about having more than one name, they just don't want me to impersonate someone else, so I think I am in the clear on that one. The rest seems to say I'm in a cabal, something to do with facebook or something, which in my case I do not have so clearly it's nothing to do with me.
  
  University students next door are packing to go home, so their term has finished; I don't know about the primary schools.

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• 43. At 8:39pm on 30 Jun 2009, Sid wrote:

  I've just referred all PoweroftheMajority's posts as tedious paranoia (except 37, of course, which refers to a post which has been removed).
  
  

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• 44. At 8:46pm on 30 Jun 2009, Sid wrote:

  43 - well, that's made the thread a bit shorter.
  
  

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• 45. At 9:14pm on 30 Jun 2009, PowertotheMajority wrote:

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• 46. At 9:16pm on 30 Jun 2009, jonathanmorse wrote:

  Whitehall 1212 would be the police - b4 999. thats the exchange then 1212

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• 47. At 9:19pm on 30 Jun 2009, PowertotheMajority wrote:

  
  Seen this?
  
  
  http://www.statistics.gov.uk
  /cci/nugget.asp?id=192
  
  And this?
  
  http://uk.finance.yahoo.com/q?s=^FTSE
  
  No, markets don't suddenly care. The news about the severity of the slump left them unmoved.
  
  Data from America spoiled their day.
  
  
  
  I pre-commented on this at
  
  
  http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/06/the_am_glass_box_38
  
  at posts 23 and 25.
  
  
  
  
  Hope Nils picked up on it.

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• 48. At 9:24pm on 30 Jun 2009, jonathanmorse wrote:

  Someone on your show said that there haven't been any aircrashes in the past 8 years in Europe, the US. There have been crashes recently in the US, with small airlines under attack for taking shortcuts. There was one in close to the west coast, with children going on holiday, which was accused of being overloaded, and one leaving New York where the pilot allowed the plane to stall in poor weather then over rode the automatics. The pilot who landed in the Hudson criticised the level of pilot training which might have contributed to the New York case. I know this from watching ABC News on BBC News at 1.30 AM weekday mornings.

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• 49. At 9:27pm on 30 Jun 2009, jonathanmorse wrote:

  Perhaps the tea thing was a grammatical problem not a medical one - he might have meant 'don't drink tea, coffee; and alcohol' not 'don't drink tea, coffee and alcohol [all of] which' ...

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• 50. At 9:39pm on 30 Jun 2009, invisibleatheist wrote:

  36. Dryopithecus
  
  I'd guess safer than petrol [proportionately] having never heard of anything happening, and I'm sure the media would make a big thing of it. But you can do your own googling! Try 'refillable gas bottles' and 'rpi' for starters.
  
  And of course LPG is currently half the cost of petrol [approx.] but should be cheaper if the government meant what it says about cutting greenhouse gases. Emissions are about 10% of petrol so, although not zero, are a huge improvement. It's also renewable since it can be made from waste, although currently it's a by product of gasoline manufacture largely.
  

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• 51. At 10:25pm on 30 Jun 2009, Sid wrote:

  I've referred 45 for not being in English.
  
  

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• 52. At 11:15pm on 30 Jun 2009, PowertotheMajority wrote:

  This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the House Rules.

• 53. At 11:37pm on 30 Jun 2009, Chris Ghoti wrote:

  Nice try, Sid. But I fear we are simply doomed to tedium.

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• 54. At 00:10am on 01 Jul 2009, U12196018 wrote:

  Well, I've had a go but I'm not holding my breath.

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• 55. At 10:02am on 01 Jul 2009, Big Sister wrote:

  A note to those reading this thread. Post 52 contains assertions about Stephanie Flanders, a respected member of the BBC staff, which I believe are defamatory and are certainly offensive.
  
  I have referred the post to the moderators for this reason, particularly since Ms Flanders won't be here to defend herself.
  
  Why does this person, in his (for I believe it is a he) various incarnations, continue to be offensive in this way?

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• 56. At 1:04pm on 01 Jul 2009, Amanda Lewis wrote:

  Output Editor for Monday and Tuesday here. Thanks for the comments on this and the other threads - though I'd describe my croaky voice as closer to that of the creature from the deep than any vampish celebrity.
  
  Tuesday's programme was somewhat hectic. The ID card announcement came mid afternoon, so we did some shuffling to the running order. The report on the explosion in Italy was a little late arriving to make its original slot and another report on a different subject didn't reach us in a broadcastable form during the programme. So the producers were battling with the telephones to get what I hope was some interesting content.
  
  It was great to hear Professor Heinz Wolff on tennis balls and humidity and I'm grateful to David Openshaw for not only explaining how LPG explodes but also bringing a new word to PM : 'bleve'.

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• 57. At 8:36pm on 01 Jul 2009, Sid wrote:

  jonathanmorse @ 46
  
  When I were but a lad, 'Call Whitehall 1212' came just after 'Lift Up Your Hearts'.
  
  

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• 58. At 10:08am on 23 Jul 2009, U14079256 wrote:

  This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the House Rules.

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