The Wimbledon PM Glass Box.
The Glass Box is where the PM team meets in at 18.00 every weeknight to discuss the content of the programme.
We try to be honest with each other, but not hurtful, as we talk about what worked and what didn't...what met our expectations and what fell short.
This virtual glass box is where you're encouraged to take part in the same spirit. Tonight's editor Mark Frankel will read your comments and may well add his own.
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Is that Dot hiding under the napkin, Eddie?
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Interesting statement from Gordon Brown about Iran's elections:
"Iran can only be an acceptable member of the international community if it's elections are free and fair."
What was the purpose of this statement I wonder?
Hmmm. So how is it that Saudi Arabia is a member of the international community?
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I missed the wimbledon round up yesterday. Is Dot Back?
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Oh, yes, Dot! Ahh, memories...
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I'm so excited, only an hour and five minutes to go to PM...
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#2 Richard
Hmmm. So how is it that Saudi Arabia is a member of the international community?
In a word.....
cha-ching.
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C'mon Tim!
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Tee, hee!
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Even if the elections had been 'free and fair' they are not ever going to be truly 'free and fair' in the sense we understand http://moralorder.mediumisthemess.com/ scroll down to Sunday 14th June Iran erupts after vote
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YEEEEEEEAAAAAAOOOUUUUUUGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!
Just practising my serve.
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New balls please.
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Richard_SM (2) - If Gordon Brown said that, then I think it is disgraceful. Imagine inserting that rogue apostrophe.
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Deteriate, oh dear oh dear Eddie, has the rot spread to you?
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Ref 11. The Intermittent . . . . . . . .
Sorry to hear that.
'The Intermittent Gelding' might be more accurate ;-)
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They still don't get it, neither does the person who said that Bercow would be speaker through the next parliament.
Only if he's re-elected, unless the job can be filled by the jobless.
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Richard, not every country can be as fair and transparent as say China
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Thanks for the Steve Race retrospective.
Just to remind everyone, you can hear editions of "My Music" on BBC7 on Thursdays at 7:30pm.
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I realise that the BBC has had a long standing remit to provide news and information coverage globally - could we see a photo of a TV Licence enforcement vehicle in Iran - I assume the Iranians are made to pay a tax to watch the BBC TV in the same way as we are in the UK...?
Seriously does anyone know how much it costs to provide this service...? I'm not saying this service shouldn't be provided but I'd like a bit more (of the buzz-word of the moment) "transparency" around how the BBC spends the licence fee...
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The poor woman. She was weeping, Eddie.
Anne Keothavong was it? Tennis player.
"Do you feel you have let a lot of people down"? or somesuch rubbish.
No pressure then - a la Andrew Murray.
What on earth did that question mean? To Ms Keothavong?
On a programme that mentions Amy Winehouse at the top of the hour.
I almost choked on my fish meal. Let this country down?
This country whose media allegedly picks up people - turns them into the vessels of all our hopes - heroes or heroines and then blithely destroys them for our entertainment.
Loyalty to such a country - its media at least - aint worth a single tear in my opinion. Dry you eyes Anne Keothavong - anyone that actually gets to play at Wimbledon have done their country proud.
So Quentin Letts is a sketch writer is he? I saw him a BBC TV News and gave him a fair hearing. I wish i hadn't. I like my sketches funny or incisive, Mister Letts. Not badly drawn scrawls - allegdely.
You let a lot of people down, Quentin. Need a tissue? lol
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No new legislation is needed, it's already covered by existing legislation, it's called fraud.
This is just another tailored sop to the electorate, they think if they provide enough of these appeasements, it will all calm down and go away. But it won't.
The boil, once lanced...
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Steve Race was a fine presenter, and musician. He was always understated, and reassuringly professional.
One thing though. I don't think that Home This Afternoon can be described as a 'predecessor' to PM. The former was gentle, general (not political) and amusing - closer to a magazine programme, and at an earlier hour, if I recall correctly.
Don't get me wrong, I thoroughly enjoy PM - and, it does at least, when appropriate, give the listener refreshing drafts of Eddie Mair's inimitable humour!
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19. steelpulse
My reaction too, they do love a weepie, bit of drama y'know? Nice one Quentin. Very surgically done.
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The Jerusalem Post over the weekend was reporting Hamas was assisting in quelling rioters in Tehran. Iran interferes in Gaza, The Lebanon, Egypt and Syria but objects when other countries do the same. Assad in Syria is believed to be doing Iran's bidding as he fears for his life if he wavers.
Al Qaeda over the weekend reportedly said that when they capture Pakistan's nuclear weapons, they will use them against the Americans.
And into all this, Mousavi thinks his democratic rights are going to be respected.
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NickMeyrick (18):
I'm not sure what BBC coverage Iranians get. If it's just the World Service, I believe that's paid for by the Foreign Office rather than the licence fee.
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Oops. Number 22. Sorry if I misled you.
Anne Keothavong.
Young Letts wasn't responsible for making the lady Joan Hunter Dunne In equivalent cry. No.
Bet-je-man is to blame for the tears. lol Little poetic joke there. Very LITTLE.
No. Quentin is responsible for a lot of my unhappiness but fair do's - that was a second point being made about comments on the new Speaker. I use the word "comment" loosely.
"Squeaker"? Dah! Very loosely. Come friendly bombs ...........lol
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SSC @ 24
You could start here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/persian/
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Eddie, can you post a photo of the lovely Dot Davies please...?
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The trouble in Northern Ireland stems back, of course, to the different international positions of the two communities there.
When the Nationalist community has been properly compensated for the Famine and the other barbarities in Irish history and the middle classes of both sides put in their proper places, there will be left over, a surplus that Ireland as a whole owes the world.
It seems to me that the Nationalists in Ireland have not, in recent decades, been sufficiently clear in explaining that the huge wealth of the middle classes there was amassed in part at the expense of Australian etc aborigional people, of Africa and of slaves.
These inclarities, after Casement and Collins, have caused the Irish to agree that achieving equality in Ireland is solely about redistribution between the communities.
The bouty that they argue about sharing in part belongs to neither side but to overseas colonial victims, something both sides do not do enough in recognising. (The world average income is about that of UK benefit levels (See the Stern Report))
I am sure that failure is in part behind these attacks on the poor Roumanians. Those who carried them out, I fear, thought they would get widespread popular support, precisely because of the way both sides jointly so jealously guard the international bounty they so fiercely fight over.
Sadly it was only too easy in Northern Ireland to portray the Roumanians as dangerous to self interests there, because they symbolise that poor outside world that Irleand (and of course overwhelmingly Protestant England) owes.
The coaltional behaviour between Sinn Fein and the DLP is born of and augurs well for the need for class justice in Irleland - workers are workers, cat or prot.
This Roumanian catastrophe demonstrates the need for a truly internationa perspective in questions of economic justice in Ireland.
Perhaps the perpetrators are merely holding on to their gains ill gotten from the Nationalists and hoping to convince them that its the Roumanians who exploit them. In that they will fail.
If, as I suspect, their purposes are even more insiduous, we should broadcast widely that we are well aware of their wicked ideological tricks.
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We learn on the news that more and more firms are abandoning final salary pension schemes.
The need for an equal divi up of the pension pots has never been clearer.
Do you really believe that some 85 year olds should be better off than others?
Why?
Today's output is prioduced by today's workers using capital produced by yesterday's workers.
The main claim of those who seek an unfairly large pension is not that they made the capital goods (and so consumed the then current output of otheres) but that they abstained from consumption in the past to make the capital goods.
But that was an abstention undertaken by everyone. Its just that the capitalist mechanism for that is to pay the best off so much that they can 'save'. Which they can, indeed - they can undertake the COMMUNITY'S saving for them.
Of course in an equal society the appropriate share of the national cake would be in the form of capital goods and the appropriate share of our consumption goods allocated to the old and divided up equally.
By them all getting the same pension.
I feel it is incumbent on us all to remind ourselves from time to time that the world average standard of living is about that of the benefit system and that from it, in an equal world, we have the bill to fight climate change to pay.
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In view of the above, I put my comments on the Speaker and the Iranian revolution on the AM GB thread. I am getting repetitive strain injury with allthis scrolling. Bye...
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Cossackgirl @ 31, dreary, isn't it? As well as muddled and maundering.
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So, Wimbledon's here again.
In most years, that pretty much guarantees rain.
But, just because they've fought back against Mother Nature by installing a retractable roof on Centre Court, she decides to play back with a heatwave...
As for Andy's chances, he'll probably make it to the quarter finals (as with our hopes in most sporting events), but getting further will be a real struggle.
Remember, everyone thought Tim could win Wimbledon a few years back...
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Come on, Tim!
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