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Eddie Mair | 04:15 UK time, Friday, 8 May 2009

"The PM Blog Beach is whatever you want it to be - a place to hang out with other bloggers, and be completely off topic. Over time it has developed its own identity, complete with camels, sand dunes, and a permanently stocked bar, but fundamentally it is a place to relax and have fun."

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  • 1. At 05:14am on 08 May 2009, Lady Sue wrote:

    Good morning everyone! Another sunny, warm day promises. Tea's on and there are platters of fresh tropical fruit, bowls of yoghurt and museli.

    Just off for an early morning swim - catch you later.

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  • 2. At 07:34am on 08 May 2009, Trevor Mansell wrote:

    Just back from sunny Malaysia having spent some time on beaches there. Not a patch on our beach though. I missed the camels. Thanks for breakfast Lady Sue. I'll just help myself to a plate of pineapple and a cup of coffee. Missed you all folks.

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  • 3. At 08:06am on 08 May 2009, aventbreast wrote:

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  • 4. At 08:24am on 08 May 2009, Anne P. wrote:

    Hi there Mansaylo, glad to see you back. Morning Lady Sue.

    Right I'll just boil the kettle for us all before going for a quick dip - anything to avoid getting on with what I should be doing.

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  • 5. At 08:33am on 08 May 2009, DI_Wyman wrote:

    Good Evening Froggers, Peeps, Frogging Peeps and Peeps-a-Frogging (5:30pm here)

    H Mansaylo, we have been muddling through on the breakfast front while you were away!

    Lady Sue does wonders with fresh fruit and coffee, we have been eating really healthy stuff and now we are all so svelt you may not recognise so of us!


    tIn RL, today we hit Melbourne Docks (big modern shopping centre) and Mrs DiY shopped for Britain! Then went to Port Melbourne and walked to St Kilda for a cup of coffee on their RL Beach!

    Tonight is party time as we take son #3, his partner and a few of their Ozzie mates out for dinner, my treat apparently!

    Now you all have a nice day and play nicely.

    DiY :-)





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  • 6. At 08:35am on 08 May 2009, Frances O wrote:

    Morning, beachfroggers! [Sips] Ahh, that's better. Thanks, Lady Sue and Anne.

    Right - in case DI pops in -


    DI Wyman! Are you going to Sydney?


    I'm at risk of boring everyone else to shreds with this question; pleeeeeeease put me out of my misery.

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  • 7. At 08:38am on 08 May 2009, funnyJoedunn wrote:

    What is this life, if full of care, we have no time to stand and stare.

    No time to stand beneath the boughs and stare as long as sheep or cows.

    No time to see when woods we pass, where squirrels hide their nuts in grass.

    No time to see in broad daylight, streams full of stars, like skys at night.

    No time to turn at beauty's glance, and watch her feet, how they can dance.

    No time to wait till her mouth can Enrich that smile her eyes began.

    A poor life this, if full of care, we have no time to stand and stare.



    Good morning everyone, hope you all have a really good day.

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  • 8. At 08:41am on 08 May 2009, funnyJoedunn wrote:

    (7)

    Henry Davies (Tramp) 1871-1940

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  • 9. At 09:07am on 08 May 2009, Wonko wrote:

    What ho!

    Just a quick visit to the beach for brief rest.








    There, that's better.

    See you later.

    ;o) []

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  • 10. At 09:12am on 08 May 2009, The Wrath Is Come wrote:

    Happy Friday to all.

    Just a brief look in this morning, I think it'll be another busy day in RL today (yawn).

    If anyone needs me I'll be in the kangaroo shaped hammock.

    (thinks - 'ere what's this pouch for?)

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  • 11. At 09:21am on 08 May 2009, Big Sister wrote:

    Thank you, Joe, for that lovely thought to start the day.
    ...................

    Been feeling peely-wallie since midday yesterday so have had time for a little reflection, all entirely misspent (needless to say).

    Here goes:

    A line of crackheads
    A crate of alcoholics
    A spliff of rastas
    An impertinence of trolls
    A testament of wills ....


    Anyone else willing to play?;o)

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  • 12. At 09:35am on 08 May 2009, U13928940 wrote:

    TWIC (#10) The puch is for storing nibbles, drinks, etc :-)

    Just a quick hello from me too. RL is busy this morning.... Oooh, coffee, just what I needed. Thanks, Lady Sue!

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  • 13. At 09:53am on 08 May 2009, Big Sister wrote:

    Jim, are you referring to Ah Puch, the Mayan God of Death? Not sure what's in the coffee you're drinking today!

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  • 14. At 10:13am on 08 May 2009, U13928940 wrote:

    It's simple, Big Sister. There's not enough caffeine in my system yet! :-p

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  • 15. At 10:29am on 08 May 2009, The Wrath Is Come wrote:

    Thanks Jim, I just had a rustle about in there and found some scotch eggs!?!

    If none claims them in tem minutes I'm eating them.

    Hmmm Scotch Eggs...

    Hi Big Sis, I like this game.

    How about...

    A plethora of lispers
    A brace of orthodontists
    A chain of lynx
    A lot of auctioneers
    A great deal of used-car salesmen?

    I think I need a hobby ;-)

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  • 16. At 10:37am on 08 May 2009, Big Sister wrote:

    A suspension of files
    A rack of plates
    A smash of hits
    A rein of queen's racehorses
    A chuckle of smiles

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  • 17. At 10:48am on 08 May 2009, The Wrath Is Come wrote:

    A bunch of florists
    A sum of adders
    A comb of hairdressers
    A ring of jewelers
    A column of architects
    A palette of artists

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  • 18. At 10:49am on 08 May 2009, Fifi wrote:

    * runs for the hills *

    Noooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

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  • 19. At 10:54am on 08 May 2009, Humph wrote:

    Wrath (10) As the hammock is kangeroo-shaped, I think that the pouch is there so that you have somewhere to put your joey. I am going to be lonely on the Naughty Step, with DIW away.

    H.

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  • 20. At 11:00am on 08 May 2009, Stewart_M wrote:

    A speedo of DiY's

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  • 21. At 11:00am on 08 May 2009, Big Sister wrote:

    A flight of scaffolders
    A row of bricklayers
    A circuit of electricians
    A tank of plumbers
    A tin of painters ....

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  • 22. At 11:00am on 08 May 2009, Big Sister wrote:

    Stewart ;o)

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  • 23. At 11:22am on 08 May 2009, The Wrath Is Come wrote:

    An implausibility of gnu
    A buffoonery of orangutan
    A giggle of girls
    A pouch of Joeys ;-))

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  • 24. At 11:27am on 08 May 2009, The Wrath Is Come wrote:

    A Grid of Electrical Engineers
    A Field of theoretical Physicists
    A shower/cloud of Meteorologists
    A galaxy of cosmologists/astronomers

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  • 25. At 11:28am on 08 May 2009, The Wrath Is Come wrote:

    Hang on these aren't Scotch Eggs...

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  • 26. At 11:45am on 08 May 2009, ValeryP wrote:

    DiY - We'll send someone over there to confiscate your best holiday speedos, unless you answer FrancesO's question - strewth!

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  • 27. At 11:48am on 08 May 2009, Lady Sue wrote:

    Frances and Valery - if you were in the best city in the whole of Australia, why oh why would you want to leave it and go to Sydney?

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  • 28. At 11:56am on 08 May 2009, Lady Sue wrote:

    Mansaylo, welcome back! Where are your lovely beach photos?

    A chain of tree surgeons
    A frame of artists
    A colony of Ozzies
    A chest of carpenters
    A patch of pirates
    A press of ironing ladies

    A load of laundry oh no, hang on, thats RL getting in the way.

    This game has already sent Fifi scuttling into the distance. Think Eddie should declare a winner so we can stop this nonsense and start another lot!

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  • 29. At 11:58am on 08 May 2009, Sid wrote:

    A heard of ear trumpets.

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  • 30. At 12:00pm on 08 May 2009, Sid wrote:

    An echelon of management consultants.

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  • 31. At 12:02pm on 08 May 2009, Sid wrote:

    Just fetched Mrs Sid back from the airport. Apparently I'm not allowed to marry Joanna Lumley.

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  • 32. At 12:12pm on 08 May 2009, Big Sister wrote:

    Mmmm, lovely collective nouns, guys!

    I've got to leave the fray for a few hours, but will keep the old grey cells humming while I'm away from the Beach .... and hope to contribute some more later!

    Behave yourselves while I'm away?

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  • 33. At 12:32pm on 08 May 2009, funnyJoedunn wrote:

    A communion of bishops
    a chatter of women
    a draft of bankers

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  • 34. At 12:33pm on 08 May 2009, Wonko wrote:

    May I add one more?

    a of

    Think about it.

    Jacket potatoes and my special "CO2 fire extinguisher on standby" chilli for lunch. A milder version of the chilli is available for those with more than six remaining tastebuds, and a vege version for the non-carnivores too.

    ;o) []

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  • 35. At 12:46pm on 08 May 2009, Frances O wrote:

    Because, Sue, I want to ask him to photograph a few places that my great-great-great grandfather built!

    Like the drive round the Botanical Gardens, and that Cleopatra's needly thingie, and a bridge.

    Please tell, DI!

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  • 36. At 12:48pm on 08 May 2009, The Wrath Is Come wrote:

    Cheers Wonko!

    I haven't had a baked potato for yonks.

    Last one

    A bemusement of bloggers >8-)

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  • 37. At 12:52pm on 08 May 2009, U12196018 wrote:

    fjd (33) - No, no, no!
    Look, I told you yesterday, the proper collective term is: a wunch of bankers!

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  • 38. At 12:53pm on 08 May 2009, The Wrath Is Come wrote:

    Sid @31 Does that mean I can. I need to check with Mrs.Wrath!

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  • 39. At 12:58pm on 08 May 2009, Lady Sue wrote:

    fjd further to Horse's @ 37, I had a chatter of broadcasters yesterday!

    Despite my suggestion that Eddie might select a winner and put an end to this silliness, it is so compulsive.

    An addiction of etymologists?
    A clutch of mechanics?

    Frances: that's interesting about your GGGGPa. Give us a clue - I've lots of pals in Sydney (goodness knows why they'd want to live there. No accounting for taste).

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  • 40. At 12:59pm on 08 May 2009, U12196018 wrote:

    Sid (31) and TWIC (38) - Mrs Horse says I would stand no chance with Ms Lumley as she'd only laugh at the size and shape of my khukri.

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  • 41. At 12:59pm on 08 May 2009, The Wrath Is Come wrote:

    FJD 33 Wunch of Bankers

    Geddit?

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  • 42. At 1:06pm on 08 May 2009, Fifi wrote:

    (peeps round side of door)

    Is it safe to come back in yet?

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  • 43. At 1:11pm on 08 May 2009, Lady Sue wrote:

    Overheard dizzy girl in England repeating a tale about the bravery of some Africans repelling the enemy with their "pots and pans".

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  • 44. At 1:12pm on 08 May 2009, The Wrath Is Come wrote:

    A disobedience of schoolchildren
    A hand of bananas
    A break of winds
    A surprise of clairvoyants


    Right that's it I'm done. Back to th Kangaroo Hammock for me.

    Anyone fancy a Scotch Egg?

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  • 45. At 1:46pm on 08 May 2009, copperTrixie wrote:

    Have those got pork in them?

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  • 46. At 1:47pm on 08 May 2009, copperTrixie wrote:

    I've got some bagels and cream cheese here if anyone wants some.

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  • 47. At 1:58pm on 08 May 2009, Sid wrote:

    Mmmm, sounds good copperTrixie - can I have two?

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  • 48. At 2:04pm on 08 May 2009, Stewart_M wrote:

    Scotch egg. Is that an egg pickled in Whiskey?

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  • 49. At 2:15pm on 08 May 2009, copperTrixie wrote:

    Certainly, Sid. *passes plate* there are some condiments on the side if you want to add anything.

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  • 50. At 2:41pm on 08 May 2009, The Wrath Is Come wrote:

    Trixie - yep egg covered with pork.

    Stewart M- not yet but it can be arranged.

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  • 51. At 3:13pm on 08 May 2009, mittfh wrote:

    Good afternoon all - just been avoiding housework by seeing what's been posted all over the frog...and filing a bug report for OS I'm using (Mandriva Linux 2009.1) - it doesn't want to use a left-handed mouse button orientation...
    And I know I'm in my right mind... :)



    (Old Leftie joke - as the left side of the body is controlled by the right side of the brain, then only left-handers are in their right mind...)

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  • 52. At 3:27pm on 08 May 2009, Fifi wrote:

    I see we are still suffering from collectivitis. I'll just sneak away again...

    * sneaks away again *

    Oh, bother!

    * sneaks away in the opposite direction *

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  • 53. At 3:30pm on 08 May 2009, U13928940 wrote:

    Anyone mind if I leave a crate of assorted falling-down fermented grape juice behind the bar for later? Have managed to get both hotel and flights for my holiday sorted out, so I thought I'd bring some tipple to celebrate once I've got home....

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  • 54. At 3:45pm on 08 May 2009, Lady Sue wrote:

    Jim that's great news. In DiY's absence, will keep a watchful eye on the stash least any of the PM team wander over before their drinks cabinet is unlocked. Or is that mean?

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  • 55. At 3:46pm on 08 May 2009, mittfh wrote:

    http://all-sorts.org/ has a huge collection of collective nouns submitted by Tweeple (i.e. users of Twitter).

    If you're a user of that particular social networking phenomenon, all you need to do to appear on the site is tweet your collective noun (in the format "a X of Y" or "an X of Y") and add the hashtag #collectivenouns

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  • 56. At 3:50pm on 08 May 2009, nikki noodle wrote:

    Its taken this long to sink in, but:

    @35 F_O: Your great-great-great grandfather built Cleopatra's Needle

    how old *are* you???? no, hang on; that would be most impertinent of me.


    I apologise immediately!
    But, cripes!

    Makes one think.
    n-n


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  • 57. At 3:51pm on 08 May 2009, funnyJoedunn wrote:

    TWIC (41)

    Yes, Yes, I get it. I had to go out for a while.

    A rankle of Ross's (Jonathan + family)

    (37) Lady sue, I think that about takes it eh!

    Forgive the gramma.

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  • 58. At 4:07pm on 08 May 2009, Lady Sue wrote:

    n-n: good point! Also I thought there were only two needles, one on the Embankment and one in Cairo.

    Frances: (equally impertinent question) do you think he might have been forging them? The Ozzies are pretty gullible.

    fJd: Wouldn't that be, "A wankle of Woss's"?



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  • 59. At 4:39pm on 08 May 2009, Gillianian wrote:

    Please may I bagsie the purple hammock for my TD for a while? She's recovering from a small op, and has had a bad reaction to her painkillers. A doze in the shade, lulled by the sound of the sea, is just what she needs right now.
    She's having trouble eating, but can manage anything which can be sucked up a straw, so if you look in the fridge behind the bar you'll find copious amounts of thin soup, chocolate milk shake, yoghurt drinks and milky custard.
    Normal bar service will be resumed as soon as possible ;o)

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  • 60. At 4:58pm on 08 May 2009, Fifi wrote:

    Poor old Gillianian's TD! I'll just sweep this multiple of collective nouns out of the way, and give her a clear path to the hammock.

    I believe Jim's fermented grape juice may be sookable through a straw, although the interaction with painkillers may not be quite what the doctor ordered...

    Nikki - did you say Cleopatra's Needle is sinking??? Timberrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!

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  • 61. At 5:08pm on 08 May 2009, Frances O wrote:

    Er, no, I'm deeply sad to disillusion any frogger, but he didn't build Cleo's Needle; it's just that I couldn't remember the word obelisk. Sign of my great age, probably.

    His name was Nicholas Delaney, and there's a rudimentary website about him (just gurgle the name).

    Luckily I'm doing basic web design (2nd week this week!) so I can do a decent website at some stage.

    I'll post a bit more info if anyone's interested, but not in this post, cos it'd get too long.

    He was a United Irishman in 1798 and got transported to Oz, where he became a noted roadbuilder.

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  • 62. At 5:10pm on 08 May 2009, Frances O wrote:

    This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the House Rules.

  • 63. At 5:13pm on 08 May 2009, Lady Sue wrote:

    Gillianian: your 'TD'?

    In Ireland 'TDs' are 'MPs' - I suspect I'm reading your comment in a completely different way from that intended! Please tell me what your 'TD' is.

    Jim, time for grape juice methinks? (Me-hopes).

    Frances, thankyou. Will check out accordingly.

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  • 64. At 5:24pm on 08 May 2009, Frances O wrote:

    Oooh! I've been modded! How exciting!

    It was just a spoonerism, guys...

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  • 65. At 5:26pm on 08 May 2009, Fifi wrote:

    Lady Sue (63) : On this blog, anyway, TD stands for Teen Daughter. Unless you want it to stand for something else, obviously.

    Frances (64) : Did you accidentally re-spooner the Spoonerism? It's easily done, you know. Just look at how many times I had to re-read the Horse's collective noun for bankers earlier today!

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  • 66. At 5:30pm on 08 May 2009, The Wrath Is Come wrote:

    Oooh Frances - you naughty girl.

    I hear it's quite pleasant on the naughty step you know!

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  • 67. At 5:30pm on 08 May 2009, Frances O wrote:

    This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the House Rules.

  • 68. At 5:31pm on 08 May 2009, Frances O wrote:

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  • 69. At 5:34pm on 08 May 2009, nikki noodle wrote:

    good wishes, Gillian to you both; painkillers arent worth the hassle sometimes!!!

    Warm Soups and Cool Milkshakes will soon work wonders...

    ...as will a spell in the sun, if it ever manages to put its head out from behind the clouds

    n-n

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  • 70. At 5:35pm on 08 May 2009, Frances O wrote:

    TWIC, I'm quite comfy there; there's booze on tap and ciggies a-plenty for those who indulge; every sort of chocolate; quite a lot of cake. Diagrams of various rude hand gestures are stuck on the wall alongside a glossary of sweary-words.

    Someone's obviously made themself at home here.

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  • 71. At 5:36pm on 08 May 2009, Big Sister wrote:

    Lady Sue, there are needles in New York and Paris, as well as London and Cairo. The New York one is the pair of the London one, though it was given to the Americans about sixty years after London got its obelisk.

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  • 72. At 5:47pm on 08 May 2009, Lady Sue wrote:

    Frances I think you might have been modded for putting up a website which I am now annoyed I didn't make note of. Would you give us your GGGGPa's name again so I can gurgle accordingly?

    Fifi, thankyou. I still feel like such a beginner and any help welcome! It makes sense now.

    Big Sis, I had no idea there were so many needles about. A veritable pin cushion of same.

    Time to crack open a bottle or two. It's Friday and we're on the best beach in the world (except those in Oz, goes without saying). Anyone for a tipple?

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  • 73. At 5:52pm on 08 May 2009, nikki noodle wrote:

    No need to ask twice Lady_Sue:


    *holds out glass*

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  • 74. At 5:57pm on 08 May 2009, Fifi wrote:

    Not at all, Lady Sue (72) : Do lots of cryptic crosswords and you'll find you can guess a lot of it!

    Now, I am going to stop procrastinating and go and BUY FOOD AT THE SUPERMARKET. The market day mobs should have subsided by now, and the on-the-way-home teens should be home whining at their parents by now.

    Any requests for tonight's beach party? I still have some salsa left over from last weekend...

    ;o)

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  • 75. At 6:03pm on 08 May 2009, funnyJoedunn wrote:

    Lady sue 58

    You say that with such finesse.

    A dingle of bells for you my lady.

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  • 76. At 6:09pm on 08 May 2009, nikki noodle wrote:

    Jim - you home yet?!

    once Fifi gets back with her nibbles and 'things to go with a salsa' , we're all good to go here!!!

    Big Sis, are you able to come up with a collective noun for drinkers?!

    n-n
    xx

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  • 77. At 6:18pm on 08 May 2009, Lady Sue wrote:

    n_n, what's your favourite? DiY and Jim have the bar so well stocked we are all spoiled for choice.

    Fifi, thanks. Hopeless with crosswords so will henceforth, with your permission, request your help with cryptic explanations. Salsa - yummy! Need a bit of a nibble after my evening swim.

    fJD, why thankyou. Do love "a dingle of bells" and will claim for my very own.

    TGiF and can relax at the beach with fine wine and good company.

    Cheers everyone!

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  • 78. At 6:19pm on 08 May 2009, Frances O wrote:

    I didn't post a url, Sue; just goggle Nicholas Delaney and it'll be the first you see (on my puter, anyway)

    No, it was the spoonerisms. Filthy minds, those mods have. Or nothing better to do.
    ;o)

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  • 79. At 6:29pm on 08 May 2009, Frances O wrote:

    They've dealt me a blushing crow...

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  • 80. At 6:36pm on 08 May 2009, Big Sister wrote:

    NN: I did post

    A crate of alcoholics

    this morning, but then we're not in that category here, are we? So, perhaps

    A magnum of drinkers?

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  • 81. At 6:38pm on 08 May 2009, Big Sister wrote:

    Frances (78): How very interesting!

    I wouldn't mess with that Bridget Dolan ...

    Where can we buy the book?

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  • 82. At 6:40pm on 08 May 2009, Lady Sue wrote:

    Frances: gurgled same. Most interesting - will read, digest and get back to you.

    Do not believe mods have unclean minds - presume they have standards to uphold and can't afford to be caught out.

    A "blushing crow" indeed.

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  • 83. At 6:42pm on 08 May 2009, Lady Sue wrote:

    Big Sis: well done. Can I run with the magnum and pop one of these?

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  • 84. At 7:23pm on 08 May 2009, Sid wrote:

    Well, here's me on the naughty step again ... been modded for describing the work of the Salvation Army, for heavens' sake! Whatever next ... mutter, mutter ...

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  • 85. At 7:57pm on 08 May 2009, Lady Sue wrote:

    Sid "hsst" - think it is just you and me... shall we break into this champers just for the hell of it? Are we allowed?

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  • 86. At 8:39pm on 08 May 2009, mittfh wrote:

    Oh, anyone been over to iPM's blog recently? It seems the BBC Blog Makeover Team have waved their wands over it...
    I wonder how long we've got left before our makeover...

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  • 87. At 9:56pm on 08 May 2009, Gillianian wrote:

    Ahhhhhh blissssss *deep sigh*

    My patient is now dozing, and I have another magnum of champers with me - any takers?

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  • 88. At 11:23pm on 08 May 2009, DI_Wyman wrote:

    Frances O

    Re Sydney......no. Why?


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  • 89. At 11:28pm on 08 May 2009, Frances O wrote:

    Cos I was going to ask you a favour - to take some photos for me.

    But as you're not, it doesn't matter!

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  • 90. At 11:31pm on 08 May 2009, Frances O wrote:

    Mittfh - ugh. I don't like it.

    The iPM blog's new look.

    Big Sis, Lady Sue, thank you for your kind words.

    I can get the book to you; but that's probably not appropriate to discuss here. FB tomorrow?

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  • 91. At 10:11am on 09 May 2009, Lady Sue wrote:

    Morning everyone! More fresh fruit, juices, yoghurt and museli for anyone hungry. I've lost five pounds this week in DiY's absence and the lack of cross aunts, bacon butties and full fry breakfasts.

    Glorious morning. Time for a swim!

    DiY: Oz national dish of meat pie and sauce bought from street vender, eaten covered with tom sauce from a paper bag as you walk along. You will spill it. You will be a target for yet more flies but it's a rite of passage.

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  • 92. At 11:13am on 09 May 2009, Frances O wrote:

    Yoghurt, muesli and some fruit... yes, perfect.

    I'll get the coffee on.

    Half-hearted sunshine in the Real World, and none of yesterday's chilly wind. Goody!

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  • 93. At 12:50pm on 09 May 2009, DI_Wyman wrote:

    Evening all (9:50 pm here)

    Just driven to and back from Phillip Island, home of the Oz Moto GP, Koala Bear sanctury and Little Penguins sanctury!

    Magic time had by all and petrol only 51 pence a litre!

    Now off out for a Chinese meal, I think I will leave the meat pie mit sauce mit street vender for another day!

    I am glad to see you are all having fun!

    How about a pickle of Penguins, or is that game over?

    TTFN

    DiY :-D

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  • 94. At 12:55pm on 09 May 2009, DI_Wyman wrote:

    Frances O, sorry but son # is flying up there a week on Monday if is any help?

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  • 95. At 4:53pm on 09 May 2009, Lady Sue wrote:

    (93) DiY lovely to hear from you but... (and it's a big but) Koalas are NOT bears!

    A hundred lines for you, which you can do on the plane on the way home.

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  • 96. At 6:24pm on 09 May 2009, Stewart_M wrote:

    Diy, Who is looking after the cats back in blighty?

    Did anyone see the start of the italian version of the "tour de france"? Apparently they started in Venice (1.00 R4 news) So take it they did a pedalo time trial down the grand canal

    Bindi (okra), mushrooms, onions bought to do mixed bhajis.Home made Korma suace defrosting to add selected meats, vegies fish. Let me know which.

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  • 97. At 9:14pm on 09 May 2009, Fifi wrote:

    Gillianian - is there any of that champers left?

    I have STILL got salsa left, despite best efforts at shifting it all week, and a good old session with the jalapenoes and soured cream tonight.

    Recipe ideas please, for making best use of spicy crudites (spelling intentional!) ... have already thought of adding it to risotto and as pizza topping under extra mozzarella.

    And finally, hats off to Upthetrossachs for his new job!

    ;o)

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  • 98. At 11:02pm on 09 May 2009, DI_Wyman wrote:

    Happy Mothers Day Frogers! (8:04 am here)

    Stewart M, cats are in the care of neighbours (ironic or what?) and Mrs DiY's parents.

    I know Koala 'Bears' aren't 'Bears', they are ma-soup-ules just like Skippy.

    "What's that Skippy, you know Lady Sue?"

    Anyhoo, Melbournians celebrate Mothers Day in true Oz fashon. You take your ageing Ma down to the River Yarra, push her in and then go down the pub.

    Mrs DiY thinks we are going on a sight seing river trip.

    Actualy in RL we are off to see Ned Kelly, well the old City Gaol really!

    Now you all be good have fun and have a ripper Mothers Day.

    DiY :-)

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  • 99. At 10:03am on 10 May 2009, Lady Sue wrote:

    Morning fellow froggers - hardly anyone about this weekend. Lovely to hear from you DiY - Skippy and I are old mates.

    Any wonder I'm such an avid swimmer DiY? No flies on me...

    Just off for a swim.

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  • 100. At 10:23am on 10 May 2009, U12196018 wrote:

    Morning Lady Sue. Cracking day here - just off to walk the dog.

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  • 101. At 11:03am on 10 May 2009, Gillianian wrote:

    Oh heck! I seem to have lost a day.....
    Serves me right for drinking the whole magnum on Friday night, I suppose.
    It did me good - I'm full of oomph this morning, and have dragged down a trailerful of kayaks to the water's edge.
    Is anyone up for a Beach Regatta this afternoon?

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  • 102. At 11:28am on 10 May 2009, Frances O wrote:

    Sounds... er... challenging, Gillianian! I've very little experience of boats in any shape or form, being a town mouse.

    Will the boys be around to lifeguard me? Young Macallan and, oh, the other one (whose name escapes me). Sven? Oh, no, that's ISIHAC.

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  • 103. At 12:01pm on 10 May 2009, Frances O wrote:

    DI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    What I would be ever so eternally grateful for would be photos of places in Sydney my great-great grandfather built in the early 1800s, when he was a convict roadbuilder and overseer, and which still exist:

    'Mrs Macquarie's Rd', which is the drive round the eastern part of the 'Domain', or Botanical Gardens;

    The oldest bridge in Oz, the brick Macquarie Culvert, near the restaurant;

    The triangle and obelisk at Macquarie Place in central Sydney.

    I know this is a lot to ask, but oh, it would be wonderful, especially the bridge and the drive.

    And, yes, he did do a lot of work for the Governor, Lachlan Macquarie, and gets mentioned in his diaries a few times!

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  • 104. At 12:56pm on 10 May 2009, nikki noodle wrote:

    Gillian - how about a lunch-break?! We can have more heats this afternoon...


    and bless the PM Beach, linking up froggers all around the world!!!
    n-n
    xx

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  • 105. At 12:58pm on 10 May 2009, Gillianian wrote:

    DIWyman - while your son's busy with his camera, he could just pop over to Tasmania for me..... ;o)

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  • 106. At 1:00pm on 10 May 2009, Gillianian wrote:

    Right you are, n-n - the hog roast is ready. Help yourself to stuffing and apple sauce!

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  • 107. At 1:44pm on 10 May 2009, Fifi wrote:

    Gosh, is that the time already?

    Woke up depressed, convinced it was Monday.

    Woke up a bit more, realised it was still Sunday, felt better.

    Woke up even more, realised I had promised to visit a friend's art exhibition today ... and suddenly wished it was Monday after all!

    Perhaps I'll feel more in the mood when I get there!

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  • 108. At 5:20pm on 10 May 2009, Fifi wrote:

    Frances, I think you were dreaming of fabulous Fabio, of whom little has been seen on the Beach this past year.

    Thankfully the art exhibition was really interesting, as our friend has developed the ideas he last showed us a couple of years ago. Many of the works I would give house room, if I had the odd £300 to spare.

    The artist's name spelt backwards (will this be modded?) is Swerdna Nairb and he has a site called silkpurse too.

    Now, off to change into cycle-suitable clothing for the short ride down to the village, where I will release a fly-tipped dead bike from captivity, ready to be collected by the bin persons in the morning.

    After that, I happen to know there's a secret stash of beer in the beer-fridge in the Nick Clarke bar, which after an afternoon's gentle gardening (only some of which included supping green tea with the friend who came to the expo with me!) I feel ready to enjoy.

    ;o)

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  • 109. At 7:05pm on 10 May 2009, RxKaren wrote:

    I have a huge bag of penny chews I was given at the end of the first aid duty I covered today. I'll pop them here - help yourselves.

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  • 110. At 7:07pm on 10 May 2009, Fifi wrote:

    Gosh, I seem to have the Beach to myself! Let's see...

    * rearranges the loungers *

    * re-hangs the hammocks between 2 different palm trees *

    * moves the beer fridge to the other end of the bar *

    * relocates the barbecue to a more sheltered spot behind the tandoori oven *

    ...and now, after all that hard work, a nap ... ... ... zzz ... zzz ... zzz ... ... ...

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  • 111. At 7:42pm on 10 May 2009, Sid wrote:

    I've just popped in for a quiet beer ... hang on, where's the fridge? I'll have one of these chews while I locate it ...

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  • 112. At 10:34pm on 10 May 2009, Stewart_M wrote:

    Ow! Just jumped into a hammock that's not there!

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  • 113. At 10:37pm on 10 May 2009, Stewart_M wrote:

    If the beach regatta includes pedalo races those cyclists that started in Venice yesterday still seem to be hogging the carbon fibre pedalos. I'm not racing them!!

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  • 114. At 10:54pm on 10 May 2009, Frances O wrote:

    Glad the exhib was good, Fifi.

    I've just been out to hear Bach cantatas, lovely.

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  • 115. At 11:36pm on 10 May 2009, Gillianian wrote:

    I've just been out to hear traditional Irish music - Frances, I think your cantatas will lead to more restful sleep than my jigs ;o)

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  • 116. At 00:25am on 11 May 2009, U13879388 wrote:

    111

    Why should they have to choose?





    A glut of seagulls.

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  • 117. At 01:22am on 11 May 2009, jonnie wrote:

    Is it just me ?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLqUf7Cil-w&fmt=18

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  • 118. At 07:41am on 11 May 2009, Trevor Mansell wrote:

    Mornin' Froggers. Got me pinnie on and breakfast is on the go. All the usual, plus, I have the recipe for Mee Soup and Nasi Goering, bought back from my sojourn in Malaysia, those delights will be on the menu for lunch. Enjoy.

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  • 119. At 09:06am on 11 May 2009, DI_Wyman wrote:

    Evening All (6:05pm here).

    Anyone fancy Beef Cury for breakfast? 'Cos that is what son #3's SO is cooking for dinner!

    I barely recognise the Beach, someone has beeen busy. Releived to see that the Speedo spin dryer hasn't moved though!

    Now you all have a wonderful RL Monday, we did!

    DiY ;-)

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  • 120. At 09:19am on 11 May 2009, Lady Sue wrote:

    Night-night DiYman.

    Good morning everyone else. Mansaylo, that all sounds delicious. Whatever are the ingredients in 'Mee' soup?

    Time for a swim.

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  • 121. At 09:28am on 11 May 2009, annasee wrote:

    jonnie - I watched a bit of that you-tube link (song from Charles A.) Do you think Eddie might borrow the lyrics occasionally - "I didn't see the time go by, and now it's two minutes to six and time for the weather Hi Laura" kind of thing? He just needs to learn to sing it in that French accent...

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  • 122. At 09:30am on 11 May 2009, U13928940 wrote:

    Morning all!

    Sorry that I was absent after leaving the assorted liquid refreshments behind the bar on Friday. RL had me busy when I got home, then Sat RL had me spending a frustrating afternoon/evening watching the Quins boys losing, and then Sunday disappeared in a blur. Still, nice to see the libations went down well :-)

    Now, who's for coffee?

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  • 123. At 09:31am on 11 May 2009, Big Sister wrote:

    117: No, Jonnie, it isn't. Thanks for that, it's lovely.

    Did you kiss the girls and make them cry? ;o)

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  • 124. At 09:49am on 11 May 2009, Wonko wrote:

    Morning all,

    Can't seem to get warm this morning, hope I'm not coming down with something. Can I have a large mug of that coffee please?

    Most of my weekend was spent doing a serious amount of clothes washing - I reckon we're only about three loads away from seeing the bottom of the washing basket, that hasn't happened for a while! Also pinned up a serious amount of wisteria that was in a tangled mess by the side of our conservatory. Hope none of the wires I put up go ping or I'll have to do it all over again!

    Can I smell curry?

    ;o) []

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  • 125. At 09:50am on 11 May 2009, The Wrath Is Come wrote:

    Morning all, Evening DIY.

    Crikey you've had a busy weekend.

    Does anyone have any tips on dealing with Chicken Pox? Daughter #2 has come down with a serious dose so that means Daughter #1 will have it soon too.

    Got lots of stuff from the Doc but it's bothering her something shocking (she's only 4).

    Help!

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  • 126. At 10:03am on 11 May 2009, Trevor Mansell wrote:

    Lady Sue.
    Mee Soup is essentially the Chinese version of the Jewish Mother's chicken soup. Noodles in chicken stock with greens, bits of chicken, maybe a few prawns. Anyone who has been to Singapore,Hong Kong and Malaysia will immediately recognise it. Great at any time of day.

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  • 127. At 10:45am on 11 May 2009, annasee wrote:

    Wrath (at 125 with the Chickenpox!), put her in the bath, and let her stay there as long as she wants. Hours if necessary. Just keep topping it up so she doesn't get hypothermia! Ours had the same at the same age, and really suffered. Spots in throat, inside ears, couldn't eat for a week. The bath was the only thing that abated the pain and fever. You can put baking soda in the bath - not sure if it does any good, but at least it makes you feel as though you're doing something!

    Keep up the pain relief - maybe phone your Dr or NHS Direct (or ask Karen on this blog!) for the best combination of liquid medicines for pain. I know you can give Nurofen and Paracetomol together if necessary. And that in hospitals they give higher doses than it says on the packet, so it's worth checking.

    It just seems so unfair that some children suffer really badly while others get away with a few spots and not much else. Good luck with your nursing duties!

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  • 128. At 10:52am on 11 May 2009, The Wrath Is Come wrote:

    Thanks Annasee, spots IN the throat? That sounds NASTY!

    Thanks for the advice I'll definately try that.

    Any more advice out there froggers?

    RxKaren any tips on the medicating angle?

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  • 129. At 11:01am on 11 May 2009, Gillianian wrote:

    Wrath - I can only second what annasee's already said.
    Calamine lotion doesn't do much in itself but when the itching seems unbearable, a gentle application can provide temporary relief. You can get it in cream form too.
    Cotton clothing (or none at all) and keeping cool helps, too.



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  • 130. At 11:05am on 11 May 2009, The Wrath Is Come wrote:

    Thanks Gillianianianian,

    Cotton clothes - check
    Keeping cool - check

    The Dr gave us some cream for itchyness although I don't know what it's called.

    This is good stuff folks - keep it coming.

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  • 131. At 12:05pm on 11 May 2009, Anne P. wrote:

    Much sympathy TWIC - can't add to Annasee's, and others', good advice other than to suggest that a little oatmeal in the bathwater (you can tie it in a muslin or nylon bag) can help to soften it.

    It's that time of year for childhood infectious diseases, I'm afraid you just have to live through it - and you do. I remember spots under my feet being the worst, although ones in unmentionable places came a close second.

    Just awaiting arrival of daughter and her infant who have just had a letter from the Health Protection Agency to say that the baby group that met before hers had a suspected case of measles which she might *just possibly* have been in contact with. Much phoning and enquiring later she decided not to drive many miles to the nearest place holding MMR which *might* offer protection and would in any case be administered again at 13 months and pre-school.

    Is it just me or have people lost a sense of proportion about childhood illness?

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  • 132. At 12:10pm on 11 May 2009, Anne P. wrote:

    Now on a less serious note, I was rummaging at the back of the bar is search of the thingumyjig when I came across this rather nice Cornish Saffron cake - can't think how it got here, but it's rather nice and not yet past its sell-by date.

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  • 133. At 12:19pm on 11 May 2009, Big Sister wrote:

    Chickenpox? It's not nice. I had it as an adult and was seriously ill, so just as well that your patient is much younger.

    I agree with Gillianian that calamine lotion will help. If you google, you'll also find a number of proprietary products that help, containing topical anaesthetics.

    RxKaren, where are you? ;o)

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  • 134. At 12:19pm on 11 May 2009, Big Sister wrote:

    Oh, and bicarbonate of soda in the bath water - Did Annasee recommend that?

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  • 135. At 12:21pm on 11 May 2009, Big Sister wrote:

    Ah (sorry, just thought of this), there's an excellent product which helps with all such conditions. Don't want to advertise the name, but it begins with AV, and ends in NO. It is an oat product and comes as a cream and an emollient for use in the bath. Excellent stuff which also helps with eczema.

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  • 136. At 12:46pm on 11 May 2009, The Wrath Is Come wrote:

    Anne P/ Big Sis. Thanks for the tips.

    I must admit Big Sis, ISIHAC about this product you mentioned.

    Anne I'll have some of that cake if you're passing it around. I bring gifts of freshly squeezed grapefruit juice and chocolate eclairs (fresh cream of course).

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  • 137. At 1:03pm on 11 May 2009, U12196018 wrote:

    Big Sis - !s that the stuff that . . . (ahem) . . .you know what . . .when you used it?

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  • 138. At 1:28pm on 11 May 2009, RxKaren wrote:

    Hello Peeps - on annual leave this week so tidying the loft. Have just ventured down to see what's going on.

    Re: chickenpox. I'm not a community pharmacist but I was given some excellent advice by a community colleague. She always recommended chlorphenamine syrup for children with chickenpox. It's branded as P*r*ton syrup. It is really useful for taking the itch away.

    For pain - paracetamol and/or ibuprofen. You can stagger the dosing so that the child is getting something every couple of hours. annasee is correct in that we do exceed the doses listed on the packs. This is because we weigh the kids accurately and monitor closely when we do this. If you've bought the medicine over the counter it is only licensed with the instructions given on the pack so stick to what it says. We don't tend to vary that much from the doses given on the pack.

    Cooling - I swear by aqueous cream from the fridge! Large tubs don't cost very much at all. Stick it in the fridge to cool it down and then slather it on as necessary. It's good for lots of things including nettle rash.

    I'm not a great fan of calamine lotion. We had to make it at Uni and I have memories of mine setting solid in the bottle and my friend shaking her bottle to mix the stuff, the lid coming off and calamine shooting up the wall... I can still hear the lecturer's sobbing now. In my defence I was making the "Old" formulation and it was supposed to set like a jelly. The cooling effect comes, if I remember, from the phenol in the formulation. As my mate said (as we wiped the wall clean) you can get the same effect with less hassle by tipping vodka over yourself. I didn't say anything - she really wasn't in the mood to hear it.

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  • 139. At 1:30pm on 11 May 2009, Big Sister wrote:

    Wrath: It's name is Aveeno.

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  • 140. At 1:30pm on 11 May 2009, U13928940 wrote:

    RxKaren, I can certainly agree with the Aqueous Cream as an emollient, particularly from a cost point of view. Having Psoriasis, I go through toubs every couple of weeks. It's the most cost effective one I've found...

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  • 141. At 1:32pm on 11 May 2009, Big Sister wrote:

    .... did you spot the deliberate mistake? ;o)

    I meant, of course, its popular name (etc)

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  • 142. At 1:32pm on 11 May 2009, Big Sister wrote:

    Jim: As an eczema sufferer, I've found the 'other' product to be better, but it is more expensive.

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  • 143. At 1:33pm on 11 May 2009, The Wrath Is Come wrote:

    Thanks Karen and I appreciate all the help everyone although I might not tip Vodka over my four year old ;-)

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  • 144. At 1:35pm on 11 May 2009, The Wrath Is Come wrote:

    Jim - I've been using DoubleBase moisturiser for my Psoriasis. Everything else I tried didn't work - but it has cleared up nicely now - and in time for summer.

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  • 145. At 1:37pm on 11 May 2009, RxKaren wrote:

    I think she went into medicines information when she qualified. We were only 3rd years at the time. As I said - it wasn't the moment to disagree with her. She was great fun to work with in 'ceutics. She was so cack-handed she made me look competent!

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  • 146. At 1:44pm on 11 May 2009, annasee wrote:

    RxKaren and Wrath- we didn't find calamine lotion much use in calming the itching either. However, it does have a useful purpose as a distraction tool - you (assuming you are a 4 year-old child here!) can create really interesting patterns on yourself by dabbing it on with cotton wool. Then wash it all off in the next bath, and start all over again...

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  • 147. At 1:48pm on 11 May 2009, U13928940 wrote:

    Thanks, TWIC. I did try that myself a few years back (under the Diproxxxx) name. To be hoinest, for me it wasn't much different in effect. The only thing that "clears" it for me is UVB (or sock-wearing as some here have been known to refer to it!). That is usually effective for about 4 or 5 months...

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  • 148. At 1:51pm on 11 May 2009, Fifi wrote:

    And people wonder why I'm so protective of this wonderful community!!

    * doffs hat *

    Hey, I wondered where that had gone...

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  • 149. At 1:53pm on 11 May 2009, Fifi wrote:

    By the way, I'm just back from the big rockpool, where there's a fairly large fish been caught by the low tide.

    http://www.sharkbreak.com/

    Snorkels and flippers are in the beach bag at the side of the pool, and there's a waterproof camera if anyone can get the fish to stay still long enough.

    ;o)

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  • 150. At 2:15pm on 11 May 2009, Stewart_M wrote:

    Just had an e mail that tells me connecting for health is disconnected.

    No surprises there then!

    I'll update you all when I know more.

    In the mean time keep using the Diproeenaseoil.

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  • 151. At 2:33pm on 11 May 2009, U13928940 wrote:

    Okay, hands up those who are tempted to make the recipe in The Newsletter tonight? I know I am :-)

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  • 152. At 3:04pm on 11 May 2009, annasee wrote:

    What newsletter??? I've spent all day trying to decide what to make for dinner. I hope the newsletter arrives soon, sounds like my problem will be solved.

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  • 153. At 3:06pm on 11 May 2009, U13928940 wrote:

    Annasee(#152) Al I can say it that my newsletter turns up on my personal email roughtly 12pm, and on my work email about 45 minutes later. The recipe is for "grab"meat :-)

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  • 154. At 3:09pm on 11 May 2009, U13928940 wrote:

    If you're still waiting on the newsletter, you can find it online
    HERE
    .

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  • 155. At 3:27pm on 11 May 2009, Gillianian wrote:

    Wrath - Eurax cream might help, too. It's certainly good for gnat and midgie bites!

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  • 156. At 4:05pm on 11 May 2009, RxKaren wrote:

    TWIC - Following on from Gillianian - Eurax lotion is cooling too. It contains crotamiton which (for some reason) seems to be more effective in little people. The advantage with P*r*ton is that it makes the child drowsy and so helps with sleep. Eurax is a good option if you don't want to knock your child out during the day.

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  • 157. At 4:13pm on 11 May 2009, Lady Sue wrote:

    annasee, I don't seem to get the newsletter until PM is due to start. Thanks to Jim's link, I've been able to have a look and plant tonight's menu.

    PM: the radio programme that give you grabs.

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  • 158. At 4:14pm on 11 May 2009, Lady Sue wrote:

    Whoops! That should have been "plan"! Serves me right.

    BTW: Is this the place to wish Eddie and everyone at PM Good Luck? If so, Good Luck!

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  • 159. At 4:18pm on 11 May 2009, The Wrath Is Come wrote:

    Eurax - check
    Aqueous - check
    p*r*ton - check


    Thanks for all you help, I feel a lot more confident now:-)

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  • 160. At 6:14pm on 11 May 2009, nikki noodle wrote:

    what lovely people!!!

    I think I'll leave a vat of spagetti and grabmeat on the bar, next to the mee soup, and slightly infront of 12 bottles of champagne.

    If that takes your fancy, (and Im slurping even already!!), help yourself!!!

    n-n
    xx

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  • 161. At 11:02pm on 11 May 2009, Frances O wrote:

    n-n: what? Spaghetti, not noodles?

    Chickenpox, argh, I remember having it as a child. Desperate to scratch, but not allowed to. Calamine lotion; dried all cracky and flaky. Mum made roast chestnuts for yhe first time and over-roasted them but they still smelled wonderful, and I got lots of library books to read and was allowed a radio all by myself.

    Hope she's better soon.

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  • 162. At 11:03pm on 11 May 2009, Frances O wrote:

    Mee soup:

    1. Soup for egotists
    2. Soup made out of me. Not recommended.

    Nazi Goering soup:

    Quite nasty.

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  • 163. At 11:14pm on 11 May 2009, Aperitif wrote:

    Hello.

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  • 164. At 11:33pm on 11 May 2009, annasee wrote:

    Well I found the recipe in the newsletter just in time to defrost the prawns from the freezer, and cook up the last of our fettucine. Had no parsley - added a few frozen peas. Had garlic and oil. Fried prawns, added to pasta with the garlic, peas, and a spoonful of pesto. Delicious! Thanks Eddie for that inspiration just when I needed it. (Didn't have any white wine, but don't really approve of cooking with it when you could be DRINKING it anyway...)

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  • 165. At 11:42pm on 11 May 2009, Frances O wrote:

    Oooh, annasee, it sounds gorgeous.

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  • 166. At 11:44pm on 11 May 2009, Frances O wrote:

    The Speech Radio Personality of the Year

    SILVER
    Eddie Mair
    Presenter: Eddie Mair
    Editors: Roger Sawyer & Joanna Carr
    Producers: Mark Frankel, Ryan Dilley, Marilyn Rust, Steven Wright, Manveen Rana,
    Briony Harris, Jeremy Rawlins, Sophie Morrison & George South

    Eddie Mair mixes highly engaging understatement with a unique radio personality. Instantly recognisable, he is able to switch between subjects with ease and shows real creativity in style and content.

    And so say all of us - well, at a guess.

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  • 167. At 11:45pm on 11 May 2009, Big Sister wrote:

    But, Frances, he lost gold to Vanessa Feltz. Hm.

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  • 168. At 11:56pm on 11 May 2009, mittfh wrote:

    News Journalist of the Year.

    Eddie completely lost out on this one. Gold went to Gavin Lee of 5 Live, Silver went to Mike Thomson from somewhere else on R4, and Bronze went to the City Talk news team.

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  • 169. At 00:00am on 12 May 2009, mittfh wrote:

    Interview Award.

    Again, Eddie completely lost out. Gold went to Fergal Keane's interview of Lana Vandenberghe for "Talking a Stand".

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  • 170. At 00:05am on 12 May 2009, mittfh wrote:

    Breaking News Award.

    (The World Tonight / Today / PM) got Silver for the Attacks in Mumbai. The same story also earned the Today team a Silver for the News and Current Affairs Award (in this case, Gold went to the World Service).

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  • 171. At 07:20am on 12 May 2009, Lady Sue wrote:

    What disappointing news. That's put me right off breakfast.

    *despairing sigh*

    Ah well, that was then, this is now.

    Chins up, everyone! Time to crack on.

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  • 172. At 08:38am on 12 May 2009, mittfh wrote:

    What we need to do is encourage more people to visit iPM's blog and comment there - then hopefully the programme will be in with a good chance of getting whatever they rename the interactive / audience participation award to next year...

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  • 173. At 08:47am on 12 May 2009, Big Sister wrote:

    Au contraire, Lady Sue, I think Eddie did extremely well to get Silver, given the very high profile of the winner.

    In comparison to Vanessa Feltz, Eddie is almost an unknown in the media world. She was bound to make a bigger impression (and, no, that isn't an attempt at a joke).

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  • 174. At 08:55am on 12 May 2009, annasee wrote:

    Vanessa Feltz - who is she?

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  • 175. At 08:58am on 12 May 2009, annasee wrote:

    TWIC - just remembered - about the chickenpox. The one useful thing I did was keep a written list in the kitchen of all the medicine doses I was giving, and the time i gave them. It's quite hard to keep track of everything otherwise, esp if you have a partner also giving the medicines, and it's 2 am with a crying child. Saves waking the sleeping partner to ask what they last dosed child with!

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  • 176. At 09:01am on 12 May 2009, Sid wrote:

    Ms Aperitif - hello to you, too!

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  • 177. At 09:27am on 12 May 2009, Lady Sue wrote:

    (173) Of course you are quite right Big Sis. Ms. Feltz appearance on TV and in all the rags does rocket her to the forefront. Though I do wonder who judges these events and how.

    Eddie and the PM Team - congratulations!

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  • 178. At 09:42am on 12 May 2009, Fearless Fred wrote:

    Hello, Aperitif :-)

    Well, I guess Eddie will unlock the drinks cabinet early this afternoon. Let's hope he lets the rest of the team have a snifter as well!

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  • 179. At 09:43am on 12 May 2009, U13928940 wrote:

    Congratualtions to Eddie and the team :-) I'll raise a glass to you later (they may not take too kindly to my drinking here in the RL office! :p )

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  • 180. At 10:16am on 12 May 2009, U12196018 wrote:

    Well done Vanessa!

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  • 181. At 11:00am on 12 May 2009, Wonko wrote:

    What ho!

    Overslept this morning, still feeling a little dozy, but enough about my weekends.

    Budge up on the Naughty Step.

    Recipe for chicken breasts wrapped in bacon, with red wine and shallots:

    Take the chicken breasts and season lightly with fresh ground pepper, a little paprika and some mixed herbs. Wrap the breasts with streaky bacon (smoked or unsmoked, whichever is your preference) and put to one side. In a casserole or other oven proof dish pour in some red wine and chicken stock, enough to come about one centimetre up the side of the dish. Peel and roughly chop a handful of shallots and add them to the red wine and stock mixture. Peel and chop a couple of cloves of garlic and this to the wine and stock too. Placed the wrapped chicken breasts in the dish, cover and then cook in a medium oven (about 160 C) for half an hour or until the juices run clear. Then remove the breasts from the dish - allowing all the juice to run off first - and place under a pre-heated grill to crisp the bacon. While this is happenning reduce the red wine and stock from the dish by about a third. Serve with creamed potatoes and braised red cabbage.

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  • 182. At 11:45am on 12 May 2009, Stewart_M wrote:

    Continuing the chicken theme I will be dishing out slices of my Chicken broth at lunch.

    Bung chiken carcass in Pressure cooker with water and seasoning. Boil for 10 mins or so.

    Remove from heat and seive. Returing bits of meat back to pan

    Add pre soakes Red lentils Yellow lentils, pearl barley, Onion, Potato, leek, turnip, Seasoning

    Bung back on heat and and stir till boiling. Bung pressure cooker lid on and cook till just before it catches on the pan.

    eat or Blend till smooth then eat.

    Blended and left to cool, it makes a great sandwich!!

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  • 183. At 2:10pm on 12 May 2009, U13928940 wrote:

    As I had to go food shopping on the way home yesterday, I thought I'd try that recipe from the newsletter. It's certainly very good, but I think adding half a dessertspoon of cream to the mix would enhance it more. I'll give it another try in a few days time and let you all know ;-)

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  • 184. At 3:00pm on 12 May 2009, annasee wrote:

    Got very excited today. Saw in the Telegraph (NOT reading about MP's expenses, too depressing for words) there was a favourable review of a concert I was in on Sunday night and - he mentioned the harps! "Enough harps on and offstage to re-stock Paradise". Sorry to be so thrilled, but honestly, they virtually never mention us, so this was a big day (Of course it's possible he was just struck by our sheer numbers - 6 onstage, and 4 more offstage, at least as much as our glamour, artistry, etc, but I prefer not to think so.) It's going to be on Radio 3 June 9 and 10, I think, if you have a spare 6 hours or so, and a love of Wagner...

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  • 185. At 3:40pm on 12 May 2009, U12196018 wrote:

    Annasse - I trust that they had the vision, respect and good sense to place you onstage.

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  • 186. At 4:15pm on 12 May 2009, Frances O wrote:

    How marvellous, annasee.

    Hello, Appy! Where have you been?

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  • 187. At 4:19pm on 12 May 2009, Wonko wrote:

    Right, I'm having a dreadful day, and it's been a while since we've done it, so I officially declare it to be Pimms O'Clock!

    There's mint, cucumber, apple, strawberries, orange and pears to add to your lemonade, should you wish to.

    Chin, chin!

    ;o) []

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  • 188. At 4:28pm on 12 May 2009, Sid wrote:

    Pimms O'clock already? Chin chin dear boy!

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  • 189. At 4:45pm on 12 May 2009, annasee wrote:

    Um, TIH - when I said "harps" that's exactly what there were. 10 harps, but only 6 players. (Credit crunch, obviously.) So this meant 4 of us had to walk back onstage after having played offstage. This was my biggest worry all evening, and rightly so, as it turned out. In making desperate efforts NOT to put my heels down, nor to get in the way of the musicians we had to walk past, I some how caught my toe on a chair leg as I regained my seat. A small but all too clear bang. The total shame and horror of it. Soon after the beginning of the last act. My first kick on Radio 3!

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  • 190. At 4:54pm on 12 May 2009, Sid wrote:

    Here, annasee - a large Pimms in a glass with a harp on it ...

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  • 191. At 4:56pm on 12 May 2009, mittfh wrote:

    Chickens?

    I always thought the preparation method involved putting them in the air, then squeezing a deckchair up your olfactory passage, before buying a Boeing 747 and burying the contents of your wardrobe...

    ...Having recovered from that, you paint your left knee a delicious shade of lime, remove your third molars, find 2 violinists, a violist and a cellist (and persuade them to play together), and convince everyone you're called Keith.

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  • 192. At 5:04pm on 12 May 2009, Wonko wrote:

    You're absolutely right Keith.

    Have a Pimms with some lime...

    ;o) []

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  • 193. At 5:06pm on 12 May 2009, mittfh wrote:

    And talking of harps, do a search for Dublin's Samuel Beckett Bridge...

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  • 194. At 7:06pm on 12 May 2009, Sid wrote:

    Santiago Calatrava - one of my heroes ... I'll open a bottle of Rioja and drink to him. Cheers!!

    (He designs bridges, by the way.)

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  • 195. At 7:34pm on 12 May 2009, nikki noodle wrote:

    Priorities:

    1. Hello Appy!!

    2. annasee - you are in luck: Radio 3 is on my dial!!! I can tune in and get it!!! What are the chances of that?!!!

    3. Media Schmedia - bah

    and I am bypassing the pimms, and steering straight for one of Sid's rioja's - though I have brough a couple with me tonight to share too....

    n00dle

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  • 196. At 8:40pm on 12 May 2009, RxKaren wrote:

    TWIC - How's the little one? Did the hints work??

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  • 197. At 8:46pm on 12 May 2009, Sid wrote:

    If anyone wants a gander ...

    http://www.calatrava.com/

    Some fabulous stuff there.

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  • 198. At 9:48pm on 12 May 2009, Sid wrote:

    Room on the naughty step?

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  • 199. At 9:51pm on 12 May 2009, Stewart_M wrote:

    Always room on the Naughty step.

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  • 200. At 10:51pm on 12 May 2009, U13858135 wrote:

    *Ahem*
    Testing, testing, 1, 2, 1, 2.
    OK, off to sweep The Step Of Naughtiness...

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  • 201. At 11:09pm on 12 May 2009, Aperitif wrote:

    Thank you for the "hello"s back. :-)

    In a striking* coincidence Vanessa Feltz appeared on a TV programme that I was ignoring the other night, whilst I was updating my FB profile. I remarked that I "cannot bear" the woman. Sony clearly use me as their anti-barometer...

    *striking because she really isn't usually on my radar. She did make me like Paul Daniels once, but that's about it.

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  • 202. At 11:20pm on 12 May 2009, U12196018 wrote:

    She made you like Paul Daniels?

    But you're not balding, nor talk in a high pitched voice. And you're not married to Debbie McGee!

    So where is the similarity?

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  • 203. At 11:31pm on 12 May 2009, Aperitif wrote:

    Ah, but it was brief and it's over now.

    Silly colt.

    Does anyone else find the voiceover on the Finish Dishwasher Tablets TV advert hilarious and annoying in equal measure?

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  • 204. At 11:45pm on 12 May 2009, mittfh wrote:

    Appy (203) - not nearly as much as the "talents" (and I use the term very loosely) used in the adverts dubbed from another language - that goes for the "actors" as well as the "voice artists".
    The worst examples I can think of are the air freshener ad where the little tyke wants to go to the loo at his friend's house because it smells nicer, and the world's dodgiest superhero - the CGI Mr. Muscle (that ad is wrong on so many levels!). Watch the girl asking for help at the end carefully - whatever she said in her native lanaguge was far more concise than what the dubbing voice artist says...

    Then again, there's the tube of toothpaste in the latest Fairy ad. Even if the family did all share the toothpaste, I'm sure they'd only need a few standard sized tubes at best to last two months...

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  • 205. At 00:02am on 13 May 2009, DI_Wyman wrote:

    Morning Froggers (09:02 am here)

    Why is there a room on the Naughty Step?

    Anyhoo, Oz update. Yesterday went to the RAAF station at Point Cook and a very nice man wanted to show me his Fat Albert ! Then we drove along the Great Ocean Road to Torquay, Anglesea, the Wye River and then bumped into the 12 Apostles. Saw lots of amazing scenery and wild Roos.

    I am going to have a quiet day wandering the lanes of Melbourne and then in the pub as Mrs Diy and son #3's SO have a girlie bonding day and go shopping!

    TTFN DiY :-)

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  • 206. At 01:43am on 13 May 2009, U13879388 wrote:

    205

    They are SO proud of being warlike there.

    Almost as bad as Scotland.

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  • 207. At 05:29am on 13 May 2009, DI_Wyman wrote:

    TRW, I know, but at least they have half decent 'kit' with which to do the job!

    Coffee and crossaunts for your breakfasts and my mid afternoon munchies (2:25 pm here).

    Just recharging the batteries before catching a train to the suburbs to meet up with son #3's SO's big sister and her Ausralian SO. Should be a fun time as son #3 has bought two slabs of VB.

    Now you all have a wonderful day.
    DiY :-D

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  • 208. At 10:02am on 13 May 2009, Wonko wrote:

    What ho!

    Feeling a little better today, more relaxed, less stressed, 2 percent lighter, winds easing from the South-West and now the News.

    Is it too early for Pimms?

    ;o) []

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  • 209. At 10:18am on 13 May 2009, Sid wrote:

    Did someone say Pimms?

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  • 210. At 10:22am on 13 May 2009, U12196018 wrote:

    Wonko (208) - The normal answer would be 'Yes', but with Quantitative Easing, Fiscal Stimuli and Aggregated Nominal Demand, I'd throw caution to the wind.

    Can I have a glass as well?

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  • 211. At 11:08am on 13 May 2009, Wonko wrote:

    Pimms O'Clock it is then, large measures all round.

    Winds light to variable... earthquakes in East Acton...

    ;o) []

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  • 212. At 11:10am on 13 May 2009, Lady Sue wrote:

    DiY: loving your posts! Have fun.

    Pimms? Yes please! I'll just nip for a swim first.

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  • 213. At 11:16am on 13 May 2009, U13928940 wrote:

    Hmmm can't join you in the Pimms yet, so I'll make do with a mug of Java instead :-)

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  • 214. At 11:37am on 13 May 2009, The Wrath Is Come wrote:

    Morning all, sorry I haven't been around, V busy in RL.

    Pimms O'clock already, well when in Rome...

    RxKaren @ 196 - She's much the same but the Aqueous and the sit in the bath tricks work a treat. So all in all much more manageable thanks.

    And thanks to everyone for their help.

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  • 215. At 12:03pm on 13 May 2009, Little Red wrote:

    morning all. it's holiday season (for me at least!) so have been far too busy spending money and generally enjoying freezing britain leaving no time to frog.

    thought i'd have a quick visit to the beach to warm my toes before heading out to lighten the bank account some more. can't join the pimms as i'm driving, but save me a glass for later and perhaps i'll be back.

    and here's a BIG bowl of chocs i picked up on the way :o)

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  • 216. At 12:51pm on 13 May 2009, Sid wrote:

    Just scanned the headlines quickly ... anybody know why the Pope is in favour of a Plasticine state?

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  • 217. At 1:47pm on 13 May 2009, Stewart_M wrote:

    Sid, perhaps he want's to mould it to his ideals?

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  • 218. At 1:50pm on 13 May 2009, annasee wrote:

    Sid - I don't know why the pope wants a plasticine state, but I know where he can get some plasticine animals to put in it!

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  • 219. At 06:35am on 14 May 2009, Anne P. wrote:

    Goodness, where is everyone?

    I'll just leave these fresh beverages on the bar while I go for a swim. When I get back I'll put the toast on and even cook porridge or other delights on request.

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  • 220. At 06:46am on 14 May 2009, Lady Sue wrote:

    Morning Anne! Think I'll stick to the healthy option of fresh tropical fruit and yoghurt - far too hot for porridge but thankyou anyway.

    Little Red, I'm sure you notice a change in temperature - did you have fun shopping? How long are you back for?

    Just off for an early morning swim too - catch you all later.

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  • 221. At 07:54am on 14 May 2009, Trevor Mansell wrote:

    Morni' folks, bacon sarnies keeping warm in the oven, coffee of the go. Tropical fruits aplenty.
    I'm off to join Lady Sue in the oggin.

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  • 222. At 08:29am on 14 May 2009, Lady Sue wrote:

    Morning Mansaylo - don't know how anyone eats porridge and/or bacon sarnies in this heat!

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  • 223. At 09:05am on 14 May 2009, The Wrath Is Come wrote:

    Morning all, eggs a-boiling for brekkie. toast (or soldiers if you prefer) coffee and hot chocolate for those with a sweet tooth - all on the bar.

    I'm off for a quick swim before my pre-mid-morning nap-nap.

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  • 224. At 09:46am on 14 May 2009, U13928940 wrote:

    A quick hello and goodbye from me. I can't stop as I need to crack on in RL. I'll just take a bacon sarnie and a mug of coffee. Thanks, Mansaylo!

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  • 225. At 09:49am on 14 May 2009, U12196018 wrote:

    Thought for the day.

    We look before and after
    And pine for what is not
    Our sincerest laughter
    With some pain is fraught
    Our sweetest songs are those that tell of saddest thought.

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  • 226. At 09:54am on 14 May 2009, Big Sister wrote:

    That, Horse, is a very Irish thought - imho, of course! And it is part of what I love about Ireland.

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  • 227. At 10:02am on 14 May 2009, U12196018 wrote:

    Big Sis - I agree. It sounds 100% Irish and yet it was written by Shelley.

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  • 228. At 10:11am on 14 May 2009, Big Sister wrote:

    Ah, but, Horse, Shelley spent time in Ireland, which is, perhaps, influenced this verse? ;o)

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  • 229. At 10:12am on 14 May 2009, Big Sister wrote:

    Whatever happened there?

    Let me try again.

    Ah, but, Horse, Shelley spent time in Ireland, which, perhaps, influenced this verse? ;o)

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  • 230. At 10:13am on 14 May 2009, Anne P. wrote:

    Thanks, Horse - that catches a mood for me today (and I agree about the Celtic fringe feel).

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  • 231. At 10:48am on 14 May 2009, Wonko wrote:

    Earthquakes in East Acton.

    Ooo, there are bacon sarnies left, don't mind if I do.

    Nothing much to report, think I'll go for a snooze

    ;o) []

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  • 232. At 10:51am on 14 May 2009, The Wrath Is Come wrote:

    You lot are a bit sombre this morning, what ever happened to the stiff upper lip?

    Chin up and all that?

    "Rise like Lions after slumber
    In unvanquishable number -
    Shake your chains to earth like dew
    Which in sleep had fallen on you -
    Ye are many - they are few."

    Vive la revolution!

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  • 233. At 12:36pm on 14 May 2009, Izzy_T-Me wrote:

    Oh dear, it seems I'm new around here again. I'll have to post a bit to get over the mod-squad.

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  • 234. At 12:47pm on 14 May 2009, The Wrath Is Come wrote:

    Izzy_T-Me - you need to poast 4-5 times before they stop modding every comment.

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  • 235. At 12:53pm on 14 May 2009, Izzy_T-Me wrote:

    Thank you TWIC - Hopefully this'll do the trick!

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  • 236. At 12:54pm on 14 May 2009, Izzy_T-Me wrote:

    Ta da!

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  • 237. At 12:56pm on 14 May 2009, Fifi wrote:

    Welcome back, Izzy - persevere and you'll soon get your trusted status back!

    I'm having a day in RL that resembles that circus clown routine with the comedy car that blows up and bits fall off. That isn't patchy fog in the East Midlands: it's the trail of smoke and steam following Fifi's car everywhere, after its triumphant MoT-passing stunt on Tuesday.

    I hope there's nobody in that hammock because it's MY TURN in there...

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  • 238. At 1:07pm on 14 May 2009, The Wrath Is Come wrote:

    Fifi - OK OK I'm leaving.

    Lunck time - chicken caesar salad or rib-eye steak with saute onions and mushrooms. Take your pick.

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  • 239. At 1:11pm on 14 May 2009, The Wrath Is Come wrote:

    In honour of Fifi's comedy clown day - some (mostly) funny clown jokes.

    "A lady is giving a party for her granddaughter and has gone all out -
    caterer, band and a hired clown. Just before the party starts, two homeless people show up looking for a handout. Feeling sorry for the homeless people, the woman tells them that they can get a meal if they will chop some wood out back.
    Gratefully, they head to the rear of the house.
    Guests arrive, and all is going well, with the children having a wonderful
    time. But, the clown has not shown up and finally, the clown calls to
    report that he is stuck in traffic and will probably not make the party at
    all.

    The woman is very disappointed and unsuccessfully tries to entertain the
    children herself. She happens to look out the window and sees one of the
    homeless people doing cartwheels across the lawn. She watches in awe as he swings from tree branches, does midair flips and leaps high in the air.

    She speaks to the other homeless person and says, "What your friend is doing is absolutely marvelous. I have never seen such a thing. Do you think your friend would consider repeating this performance for the children at the
    party? I would pay him $50!"

    So he says, "Well, I dunno. Let me ask him." He then turned to Willie and yelled, "Hey Willie! For $50, would you chop off another toe?" "

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  • 240. At 1:25pm on 14 May 2009, The Wrath Is Come wrote:

    And for anyone else not having a great day...

    TOP TEN EXCUSES FOR FALLING ASLEEP AT YOUR DESK

    "They told me at the blood bank this might happen."

    "I wasn't sleeping, I was trying to pick up a contact lens without hands."

    "I wasn't sleeping! I was meditating on the mission statement and envisioning a new paradigm!"

    "Amen"

    "This is just a 15 minute power-nap like they raved about in the last time management course you sent me to."

    "Whew! Guess I left the top off the liquid paper"

    "I was doing a highly specific Yoga exercise to relieve work related stress."

    "This is one of the seven habits of highly effective people!"

    "Boy, that cold medicine I took last night just won't wear off!"

    "Darn! Why did you interrupt me? I had almost figured out a solution to our biggest problem."


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  • 241. At 2:38pm on 14 May 2009, U12196018 wrote:

    On the Fourteenth of May at the dawn of the day
    With my gun on my shoulder to the woods I did stray
    In search of some game, if the weather prove fair
    To see could I get a shot at the bonny black hare

    Well I met a fair maid there with her face as a rose
    Her skin was as fair as the lily that grows
    I says, 'my fair maiden, why ramble you so?
    Can you tell me where the bonny black hare do go?'

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  • 242. At 2:38pm on 14 May 2009, Wonko wrote:

    Or how about:

    "I'm trying to unlock the code that's written on the inside of my eyelids to help me find the lost treasure of Hzzachhtraneer."

    ;o) []

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  • 243. At 3:14pm on 14 May 2009, U13879388 wrote:

    Definiton: Anti-Troll-Trolls.

    Posters who fondly believing they are troll hunting are in fact simply trolling.


    Collective nouns:

    Of Anti-Trolls:


    A lynch mob.


    A neck tie party.


    A tedium


    A waste of space


    A repetition


    A flame


    A waste of time


    A nuisance


    A repetition


    A bridge


    A clone


    A self satisfaction


    A monotony


    A misdirection


    A persecution


    A libel


    A repetition


    A sisterhood


    A brotherhood


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  • 244. At 3:21pm on 14 May 2009, U13928940 wrote:

    Oh, the irony of it all....

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  • 245. At 3:33pm on 14 May 2009, Lady Sue wrote:

    Jim, you do make me laugh!

    Horse, you are in fine verse today.

    Fifi, your joke in the newsletter is very good!

    Just back from a swim - time to think about rigging up some loud speakers so we can get that nostalgia moment booming out across the beach for 5pm. Any helpers?

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  • 246. At 4:29pm on 14 May 2009, Anne P. wrote:

    Here Lady Sue, just pass me those cables and I'll hook them up to the solar batteries. Perhaps one of the taller froggers can hang the speakers in the palm trees.

    (I bet the phone will ring just as it starts!)

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  • 247. At 4:38pm on 14 May 2009, U12196018 wrote:

    Lady Sue - That's as far as I could go with that one. The rest of the verses would make you blush!
    But I thught it appropriate, given the date


    Anne P - That's the speakers up. Warn Wonko not to trip over the red cable when he's passing the Pimms around.

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  • 248. At 4:53pm on 14 May 2009, Stewart_M wrote:

    Watch out for the low flying Pimms.

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  • 249. At 5:04pm on 14 May 2009, The Wrath Is Come wrote:

    Pimms can fly?

    I thought that was a myth ;-)

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  • 250. At 5:10pm on 14 May 2009, Fifi wrote:

    * tries to stifle giggling *

    Oh dear me, that theme tune was funny!

    * fails to stifle, gives in *

    Ouch, this hurts!!

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  • 251. At 5:13pm on 14 May 2009, Fifi wrote:

    * swat *

    Ouch that's a glass!

    No, that's definitely Pimms.

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  • 252. At 5:16pm on 14 May 2009, U13928940 wrote:

    Oh dear, I'll have to listen to PM again this evening, as I never get to listen to the first 20 minutes or so due to work :-(

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  • 253. At 5:16pm on 14 May 2009, Wonko wrote:

    Sorry about that Feefs, I tripped over some cables someone's stretched across the Beach. Who left them there?

    I'll fetch a fresh jug (of Pimms).

    ;o) []

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  • 254. At 5:17pm on 14 May 2009, Lady Sue wrote:

    Horse, most appropriate and glad you spared my blushes.

    Brilliant sound from the speakers - well done everyone!

    More Pimms? Oh lets have a non-political party. I could fetch my knitting to the cries of "off with their heads". Ooops, hang on, that's RL... back to the beach and time for more Pimms.

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  • 255. At 5:28pm on 14 May 2009, Anne P. wrote:

    What was that I said about the phone ringing? doh!

    (though I did hear the theme tune, just missed the next 20 minutes).

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  • 256. At 8:37pm on 14 May 2009, nikki noodle wrote:

    can


    barely



    move



    with



    all



    this



    nostalgia!



    n-n
    x

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  • 257. At 8:49pm on 14 May 2009, Anne P. wrote:

    Here nikki, have some embrocation for your nostalgia. Shall I rub it in for you? I know it smells a bit, I borrowed it from the Horse.

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  • 258. At 11:53pm on 14 May 2009, Frances O wrote:

    Blimey, after a long, busy, but good day, I wander down to the Beach and everybody is Pimmslicated or bathing in the nostalgia lagoon.

    Bah. I've missed all the fun.



    On the Fourteenth of August at the dawn of the day
    With my bag on my shoulder to the town I did stray
    In search of some news, if the weather prove fair
    And rememb'ring my shot at the bonny black hare.

    Well I met a fair maid there with her face as a rose
    Her uniform fair as the blue sea that flows,
    I says, 'my fair nurse, now, why worry you so?'
    Can you tell me where the bonny black hare do go?'

    She turned around to me and my face she did slap,
    And she called me a coward and a swine full of cr-isps*,
    'It's in the maternity ward she will be,
    'And the bonny black hare, she will have none of thee.'




    * been modded once over spoonerisms, for goodness' sake, so won't risk it

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  • 259. At 00:08am on 15 May 2009, Frances O wrote:

    Horsey, have you got a tune for your song? I made one* for what I wrote, but your words work for 'I Once Loved a Lass' or a slightly tweaked 'Bonnie Lass O Fyvie'.




    * Inappropriately, it feels an English sort of tune

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  • 260. At 10:58am on 15 May 2009, U12196018 wrote:

    Frances O - Re Bonny Black Hare.

    Yes, there is a tune and I've known it since University days. There were quite a lot of students from Lancashire and Yorkshire here at that time and I learnt it from them.

    There are a few versions but this is the one I know as sung by Fairport Convention

    It comes into my head every year as Daughter No.1 was born on 14th May!

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  • 261. At 5:48pm on 19 May 2009, donharoldo wrote:

    I believe that it is entirely right for the Speaker to go. This is but the first step. As soon as possible, Parliament must be dissolved and a general election called, so that the people can speak
    It misreads the anger of the electorate to hide behind "conventions" and not speak out against a Speaker who has proved himself grasping, been the subject of unjustified expense claims himself and has been thuggish in the defence of the indefensible.
    Convention is what has lead Parliament into the crass position in which it finds itself. It is convention for MPs not to attend debates unless they feel like it; it is convention for MPs who have not attended debates to simply vote as the whips tell them; it is convention for members of standing committees not to attend committees; it is convention for MPs to claim allowances in the way that they have been claimed; the expense claim processes have been established by convention; the Speaker has been protected by.
    It is Parliamentary convention that is in danger of destroying democracy.
    Politicians who are not prepared to buck convention in the interests of the electorate should not expect to represent us.
    We need a new start. A clean start. We need it as soon as possible.

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