Tuesday's Glass Box.
The Glass Box is where the PM team meets in at 18.00 every weeknight to discuss the content of the programme.
We try to be honest with each other, but not hurtful, as we talk about what worked and what didn't...what met our expectations and what fell short.
This virtual glass box is where you're encouraged to take part in the same spirit. PM's editor Rupert Allman will read your comments and may well add his own.


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An oblique reference to Stephen Hawking?
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Is Bob "The Producer" Allman going to be around for the 8pm kick off?
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Ah - the Chancellor's abacus used to prepare the budget.
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Oh, dear, so many problems to talk about tonight, whilst it's not too late. (Last minute budget changes under public media and politcal pressure are not completely unknown)
For the interest rate cuts have caused deflation for the rich, meanwhile unemployment and inflation for the poor.
The banks are only just solvent - courtesy of government money.
So where is the industrial investment here going to come from?
From Japan and China which urgently need the investment at home?
From our own banking system which is stocked out with bankers completely ignorant of industry and with no history of industrial investment?
The situation cries out for international as well as national planning.
Government borrowing is now cheap, but, we are told, we should cut planned government expenditure?!
But it is only government here that can give the necessary investment to industry here, and that means more government spending not less.
That is where government support should have gone, not to the banks. The government should have stood behind mortgage borrowing and banks' loans to small business directly and let all the funny money banking go to the wall.
The unemployed need more financial support. We should adjust the tax rates so they can be given it.
We need an energy saving, import substituting, public transport creating, poverty ending, deeply egalitarian budget, Darling.
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Like the advert, but isn't the real world problem one of snouts in troughs looking for trifles?
The media looking for talking points rather than truth?
The bankers looking to make money rather than real investments?
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TRW 5
"...looking for trifles?"
...or perhaps Truffles?
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I can see tomorrow's glass box is going to be filled to overflowing with postings from a certain blogger who believes communism is the way forward....
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L_S 1, And you complain when I make similar remarks about people who are ill.
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David, it wasn't meant to be a "remark about people who are ill". The picture looks like some kind of intelligence stimulant/game and Stephen Hawking is probably one of the most intelligent people alive. I'm so sorry if my comment caused any offense, it wasn't intended to.
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L_S 9, And I don't mean to cause offense either, but you are offended by my posts quite often.
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Apparently Boris Johnson said
"I would not necessarily accept the premise that confidence in the
police has been [damaged],"
Can you get him on the phone and ask him if he has read any newspapers or listened to the radio or TV, or watched the videos on the Guardian website showing a bunch of thugs attacking innocent protestors?
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Oh, by the way when the police searched Damian Green's computer, they could not have used the computer as evidence as they had tampered with it.
[Unsuitable/Broken URL removed by Moderator]
"Principle 1:
No action taken by law enforcement agencies or their agents should change data held on a computer or storage
media which may subsequently be relied upon in court."
The idiots should have taken an image of the disk, total incompetence!
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og 11
Please, if for no one else but for me, get a life and, a grip!
I've heard Boris Johnson referred to as a "Buffoon".
Tell me, why do people rate him that highly..?
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Hi Charlie,
Mr. Tomlinson won't have life!
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og 14
He certainly doesn't now and, as you say won't. A very sad situation indeed.
And, we have a 3rd Post-mortem coming-up now - inevitable, given the previous two.
Let's hope for Mr Tomlinson, his relatives and all interested parties, this one's, definitive and, leads to answers...
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# 12. At 5:30pm on 21 Apr 2009, oldgifford
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Is the moderator asleep?
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Free advertisement for Rymans on PM, eh? What about WH Smith, Wilkinson, etc? They sell folders as well. Think this will get deleted?
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Just a note about the short piece of fruit machines. The bishops was wrong to state that children will have access to the new £70 jackpot machines. Since the 2005 Gambling Act machines paying a prize of over £5 can only be placed in areas restricted to over 18's only. This will not change with the new regulations.
Surely a reply from BACTA, the relevant trade association, should have been sought, if only to correct this mistaken assumption.
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(10) David, everyone is offended by your comments quite often.
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D_m 10
Of course L_S is offended.
You NEVER put stamps on your post.
Why should L_S have to pay for them..?
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Good Evening:
So far, we have had one complaint about the interview with the man from Rymans. Other stationers are - of course - available.
Good to have Sir Christopher Kelly on the programme and was very taken with Andrew's update on Nuclear War Veterans.
Seldonscott - yes point taken and had I been more disciplined with time it was a point of view worth weaving into what was short discussion about fruit machines. Better next time.
Must dash - as I have a table booked at the Fat Duck. I'm trying to get Heston to put the football on but so far without success.
As ever - thanks for all your comments
Best
Rupert
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Rupert 21
Wow...
I suggest you don't have the "snail flavoured ice-cream" this PM
It'll be too fast for you...
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7. Fearless Fred
Anybody who believes that Communism is the way forward must have forgotten the old Soviet joke: "Capitalism is exploitation of man by man, while Communism is the exact opposite".
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Tonight on Newsnight, Stephanie Flanders said the worst of the recession is behind us.
What can that mean?
Even if the economy stops shrinking unemployment will still grow.
(Each year because of technical progress the same output can be produced by less labour)
So what sort of value judgment is it that things are getting better?
Come back Peston, all is forgiven. (Actually Nils should sit at Paul Mason's feet, don't ya think?)
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At 9:03pm on 21 Apr 2009, Lady_Sue wrote:
(159) Well Eddie, what can I say? We all worship and adore you. That's why we're here. This has been great fun and a brilliant experiment.
Pass the barf bag.
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Hi David, funnily enough Eddie was asking for sick bags, so I'm sure he didn't mind. No one else seemed to either.
Where were you?
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At 05:11 PM on 28 Sep 2006, David McNickle wrote:
"...I don't use chatlines either, but I've heard that they are just silly chatter. I do, however, use a forum and all sorts of topics from serious to frivolous are discussed. When I came here, because it was mentioned by Eddie on PM, I expected something a bit more serious, not just a few smart, er, um, alec remarks from Eddie followed by an Eddie fan club full of luvvies making 'Isn't Ed clever?' remarks. So, off I go."
So, when are you leaving DMcN. You've been saying you're off for over two and a half years now...
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Lady Sue - probably in The Farriers ...
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You reckon, Sid? I'd have gone with The Verulam Arms....
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Sid - Don't think so. He said he wasn't going there again.
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Looking for his dummy?
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I'm getting increasingly offended by the US spelling here. Offence is the word, not offense, which is offensive.
I thought the Ryman interview was excellent.
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L_S 26, I was watching Hercules Pierot.
I got the barf bag idea after reading the thread today. What a bunch of kissy kissy luvvies. I think Radio 4 has a lot of good comedy programs: ISIHAC, The Now Show, News Quiz, and individuals mentioned by someone else.
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Sid 28, We stopped going to the Farriers a couple of years ago because layabouts like you started coming in.
FF 29, We were at the Ver for a five pound lunch last week, but generally don't go there since it became a gastropub. They occasionally do a free cheese and biscuit night on Sunday.
Must include DI_W, The Fighting Cocks is now reopened.
We usually go to the Portland Arms and the Spotted Bull or the Cross Keys near Gustard Wood for lunch. The Keys is a bit like dropping into the Archers set.
Anybody else want to mention a pub in St Albans? They could use the publicity with the new 5p rise in a pint of beer. The Goat used be be nice and the White Hart Tap does a nice Sunday roast lunch.
I could go on, but I think it is time for fake wine and food on the Beach for you people. Off you go now.
VH 32, Color, specialize. No offense meant.
FF 27, I meant that I was leaving for the day. As I said, nobody is forcing you to read anything I post, new or ancient.
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David, yes I agree that the BBC does have a lot of good comedy programmes.
It's a shame you haven't gleaned anything from the Experiment thread. Most others found it quite interesting.
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L_S 35, From what you said, it sounded like you didn't like the Radio (wireless for VH) 4 comedy programs.
It was easier to read the thread today. My questions to Eddie would have been silly, and not appreciated by you. I wanted him to confirm what I said about the two of us growing up together in Brooklyn. I also wanted to know if he is going bald and that is why his photo above has the top of his head cut off.
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DMcN, if you ever turn out to be TRW in your spare time, I may have to kill you, because whenever it all gets a bit much for me I comfort myself by remembering that you may sometimes make me long strangle you but you're not a monomanic bore, and I'd be really sad if you went and spoiled my illusions.
Do go on not being a proponent of an exploded wasm, there's a good fellow, and spell advice and advise the wrong way round if you want to!
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Sorry if this is the wrong place to add the following comment but when I tried The Furrowed Brow the message "No further comments" came up.
People are talking about Halls of residence for MPs but they are not students rather they are the grown up equivalent of military personnel. Married quarters would be ideal for them. We lived in such houses for 12 years in Germany and throughly enjoyed ourselves. The children too loved their time there.
The quarters were furnished but if you wanted other furniture you bought your own - no problem. Painting and repairs were carried out on an ad hoc basis; one wall out of the four being painted the other three ignored. Annoying? Maybe, but amusing.
Watching some of them being marched out of their quaters would give the public hours of giggles.
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toughCuriousCat:
I have just posted in the Furrowed Brow - I suspect you were trying a very old one. Try the one nearest the top - the first in the list.
I don't know how you got here either - look at the dates of the previous posts!!
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