The Glass Box for Tuesday.
The Glass Box is where the PM team meets in at 18.00 every weeknight to discuss the content of the programme.
We try to be honest with each other, but not hurtful, as we talk about what worked and what didn't...what met our expectations and what fell short.
This virtual glass box is where you're encouraged to take part in the same spirit. PM's editor Roger Sawyer will read your comments and may well add his own.
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Jack Tweed treated too harshly (12 weeks) because of who he is. Oh, boo hoo!
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Why do gov't flunkies insist on saying that G Brown got rid of D McBride when he quit? SPIN SPIN!
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Thanks Eddie,
Wonderful interview with Mr. Milliband, now can you get Gordon on the phone as well?
Funny though, I thought Mr. Brown and his cohorts were spinning against TB for many a year. perhaps I was misled.
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I think the e-mail thing was just part of Number 10's Easter celebration...
Seeing the man in charge crucified
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What happened to the Red Rubber Band collection? Finished? Threw them away? Talk about a thirty second attention span.
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Tbird 4, I think they exposed the email thing now, when there is no PMQ for three weeks.
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Hi,
I was a bit disappointed with the Milliband interview. 24 hours is not a long time, why is it a big deal if it took that long for the culprit to leave his post? There are more important issues here about political culture and spin that I think could have been explored -- it seems unlikely that this was a one-off. Things that might have come out with a bit more back-and-forth, not hammering on one point.
One of the things I like about PM is its more relaxed and discursive (as opposed to argumentative) style compared to Today. In summary, Mr Mair, please don't turn into John Humphreys!
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Listering to a chainsaw through a headset can damage your hearing.
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I think the Tory's are just loving all this. It's a gift. They have been out to get GB since he took over as PM. I don't know what the e.mail said, and I don't want to it was obviously very unpleasant, but it's interesting which papers actually published the content.
And to day we get the `Blair brigade' eg Alan Milburn and the `awkward squad' Frank Field anyone with an axe to grind.
And the BBC is simply re inforcing all this, where are your critical faculties?
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Of course the Mcbride emails are disgusting and inexcusable. But this kind of thing is nothing new - as some of your political journalists will be well aware the most appalling stories about Gordon Brown [among others] have been commonplace for 20 years among those who like to think they're 'in the know', and we know where they came from. That doesn't justify Mcbride for a moment but let's not assume the other lot have clean hands.
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a 7, I thought the Minicab interview was a waste of time.
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(7) The reason PM is softer and more "nice" than those guys on Today is that PM is mostly listened to by the retired and school kids waiting for magic roundabout to start. Not the best time for an attack-dog to be let loose
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jj 9, Try Google if you're really not interested.
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The homelessness report was heartbreaking. I can't equate this with the face of America so often presented in TV and films. What a brave family.
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Oh great - 25 minutes of anti-government radio! What an excellent start to the programme tonight. 25m of attack on the government without much reply(he could barely get a word in edgeways could he Eddie!). This included a former alcoholic explaining why the government is wrong again!
I am not a member of the Labour party - didn't vote Labour at the last election and won't at the next one either.
But here are my puny suggestions for a programme that might generate a little more light and a little less heat.
1) A presenter who speaks less than the poor sod put up to defend the government. Might be nice if he can finish his reply(or at least the first phrase) before he in treated with scorn or ridicule.
2) Social issues like alcoholism dealt with by a discussion that might involve several different perspectives - a family member who has suffered as a result of alcolholism; a counsellor who helps alcoholics and perhaps even a government advisor. Perhaps the main of the discussion might be to find out what works rather than just another excuse to tell the government why they are worng again!
When was the last time the PM programme thought the government(of any political hue) got something right in the last twenty years? Go on - name that programme!
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Turn left on Red?
They've been doing that in the USA at selected sites for years for all vehicles - of course there it's right on red.
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Since G Brown won't sing I'm Sorry, perhaps he could do I Did It My Way.
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Boris wants to let cyclists turn left on the red? It would be nice if cyclists obeyed the law as it is. Most run red lights as a matter of course and my personal experience is they don't change even if you're hopbbling across on a crutch and have pedestrian priority. Indeed all that seems to be a signal for the rider to tell you to 8888888888 off!
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ActuallyI don't think PM is hard on this government.Maybe Eddie has been away from Scotland too long and forgets what Scottish Labour is like. It's where Brown learned his bad habits.He has been known for them for years and used them extensively at the Treasury. All this mob have been with him since then.
I actually thank God each day for the Today programme. They don't let them away with much.
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Jack Tweed. His sentence was affected - a little reduced was the suggestion - because of his recent bereavement according to the report I heard.
Yet in the self same bulletin I heard his legal support say that his client's family thought Mr Tweed's penalty had been adversely affected - allegedly longer - because of "who he (Mr Tweed) is"?
A Point of View. Two Points of View. I will kick myself.
I was thinking about points of view.
How I would enjoy writing a letter of apology to someone - only to have your hand written missive picked apart by one of the recipients. Live on television - to be repeated ad naseum on YouTube etc.
Said recipient of my regrets - in my view at least - could not expect any more hand written scripts. I would kick myself first.
And for the lack of that Valentine Day item - may I thank you Eddie for your apology. The - alleged grovelling to us expectant Lotharios seemingly covered all the bases. However I would have preferred more contrition in your voice........ lol
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Eddie
Can it be you've acquired acquired Mr Brown's syndrome..?
Saying you "regret" the absence of the Valentines Day piece is poor.
I see now why Sir Elton sang...
"Sorry Seems To Be The Hardest Word..."
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Steelpulse 20
"...I will kick myself.
Please, just say "Sorry".
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My comment for this evening is on yesterday's page.
I kick myself.
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Jack WHO...?
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This evening PM featured a lengthy interview with the Secretary of State for Energy and Climate Change, Ed Milliband.
Energy and Climate Change are arguably the most important issues facing humankind. Many people believe we're facing a global energy and climate change catastrophe.
So what did we learn about these vital issues? Absolutely nothing. Instead the whole interview was about some ridiculous so-called "email scandal" which will be entirely forgotten by next week.
Meanwhile, the humble You and Yours programme today gave us an excellent full hour discussing UK energy policy (strangely, Mr Milliband was absent). For any PM listeners who would prefer to hear about serious issues rather than synthetic "scandals", I recommend the You and Yours podcast.
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I'm sorry to have to say, but temptation got the better of me and I've commented on a couple of old threads.
Nah, I'm not sorry, but I do apologise for my actions.
Come to think of it, I don't apologise for my actions, but I do regret them.
Actually, if I'm honest, I don't regret them, but I will kick myself over doing them.
Unfortunately, I can't kick myself over doing them because I'm not double jointed... oh well...
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May I suggest that Lady_Sue read Noam Chomsky for more information on these sorts of stories...
And re: the so-called 'email scandel'..all I can say, what's new!!....as the whole economic social system in this epoch would probably collapse if the old and neo-priests (sic) did not lie and cheat 24/7...and may I also suggest that Blair's Faith Foundation is throttled at birth because of what I have just said....
Brian
BVP
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Hello, mittfh, you old fred, you.
Dave, I know it's fashionable to knock 'You and Yours', but I found today's programme interesting and informative.
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Was the chainsaw picture a reference to Roger? No comment from him yet - hope he's not miffed.
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D_M 17
You may be onto something.
Maybe if you asked golfer Nick to lead the song (after all he's done it before a world-wide audience) and, after the last Ryder Cup outing may feel he needs to do it again...
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L_S 29
The UK seems to have a dismembered body mystery unravelling at present - which reminded me of the so called "Texas Chain Saw Massacre".
I wonder, is the picture was meant to inspire that sort of memory..?
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Charlie 31, I live in Hertfordshire, but I didn't do it.
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mittfh 26, Just stay away from that Furrowed Brow thread.
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D_M 33
Having seen your "arranging" skills in the Easter photograph you sent in, I fully accept that you are not-involved in the "dismemberment" case.
Consider yourself a non-suspect. At least, from my perspective...
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R_S 35
Saw...Sawyer..?
Well, that's what I took the reference to be.
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Ah... thanks Charlie. I was being slow. Or paranoid. I thought Lady Sue was implying I was some sort of serial killer. Or a lumberjack.
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If a cyclist wants to turn left while the lights are red rather than waiting at the red light and risking not being able to see a lorry beside him or her, what is to prevent him or her from keeping the law, dismounting from the bicycle briefly,wheeling it round the corner and remounting?
Yes yes, I know; it's too much trouble. My heart bleeds. It bleeds especially if I am the pedestrian crossing the road while the lights are red for the traffic and the green man is showing to tell me it is safe for me to cross the road; you know, the one who gets hit by a bicyclist who is turning left illegally.
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R_S 35
I think the Miliband interview was the Beeb at it's best. Mr Miliband was consistently kept-off his own tack and agenda and was clearly struggling at times. Can't ask for more much more than from investigative journalism.
Eddie's "Frost/Nixon" day looms large...
I believe you're right, for James Purnell it was a timing issue. To the extent I believe that on the Govts. latest Alcohol/Drug addiction "initiative", Mr Purnell is un-likely to appear on PM for a forthright exchange of views any time soon...
All in all, a very worthwhile programme I thought. On the matter of timing of the prog editor's comments I must say I prefer a "later" post by which time Bloggers have had the opportunity to comment and the editor to read, consider and then offer her/his thoughts and, as you have today, explanations.
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R_S 35
Is one of Mr Miliband's relatives a Beeb Moderator..?
I only ask because you've... well, you've disappeared..!
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That's weird, Charlie. I don't think I swore or said anything offensive. Oh well... have to wait and see what happens.
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32
Well, you're in the frame anyway.
You know what the British police are like and isn't it the St Albans mob that prize the bones of the victims aftere horrible deaths.
And didn't they get the two fingers of St Margaret, the ghouls?
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R_S 43
Roger
I'd have to say it's a Miliband relative!
Yet again, you've disappeared. Tell me, can you do that around tax-payment time as well..?
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It's quite easy to get moderated without finding out why. When I do find out, being off-topic is the most common reason for me, usually because I couldn't resist replying to someone else's off-topic comment.
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Vyle 45
So I understand yet, I read both of Roger's posts (virtually identical) and, saw no faults whatsoever.
Still, what do I know? Quite right. Nothing!
Anyway, "advertising" is also, supposedly, a subject for moderation.
Yet, the photo clearly advertises a world-leading brand of chain-saw.
Hey, ho...
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33
Please tell all you know and I won't let on about St Margaret's two fingers, how they came to St Albans, where they are now and what they obviously mean.
Oh, nearly forgot. (Inebriated with the enthusiasm of my own verbosity)
I've been 'Removed' on FB.
Why?
Anyone see it go?
It was an ARGUMENT for goodness sake, how could anyone find it offensive, for real?
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(37) Roger: I wouldn't dream of making such an accusation! I would love to see a photo of you in a check shirt, however.
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Charlie 34, I have the hands.
Roger_Sawyer modded.....twice?
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TWR 42, The police hauled away somebody across the street last night.
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D_M 49
...okay, so you have the hands. What do you want me to do, send a nail file, clippers and varnish..? If so, you're getting as bad as Eddie...
R_S not only moderated twice but struck-off twice, within minutes!
It appears the mods can teach the RCN a thing or two...
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TRW 42, My name isn't Baldwin, and although Matthew Paris is a good writer for The Times, he was a rotton chronicler.
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Whilst I wait for the tidal wave that insists on equality as well as prosperity.....
52.
It's those relic dealers that get me.
OK so you got two fingers.
But what about the sandal? Apparently the barefoot ascent skyward was authenticated by a dealer trying to sell the very cast asides. He had 26 pairs.
And the vinegar in phials. Provenance good but not perfect.
It's not known whether it comes from the sponge or its what he put on them when he got his chips at the last eveneing meal.
The 20th Century has six and a half million martyrs. Get stone and build relicaries. (reliquaries?****)
But the real problem David is that the two fingers have reduced to one.
Natch, Yanks are in the frame for that one.
So, who nicked the knuckle McNickle?
Spell corrections welcome - presently at a system with no autospellcheck and it's time-tight and I never seem to see them untill a zealous blogger points them out. And some I just can't spell like****(I think).
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To be honest, TRW, your spelling is the least of your problems ...
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TRW 53, At the moment, the Cathedral has only one relic, a ?shoulder bone of Alban, recently returned from Cologne. I call it The Bone From Cologne. (Probably not really from Alban.)
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