Monday's Glass Box.
The Glass Box is where the PM team meets in at 18.00 every weeknight to discuss the content of the programme.
We try to be honest with each other, but not hurtful, as we talk about what worked and what didn't...what met our expectations and what fell short.
This virtual glass box is where you're encouraged to take part in the same spirit. PM's editor Joe Carr will read your comments and may well add her own.
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I am glad the reporter , on just now , told us that Manchester was in Northern England - just in case anyone from ThatLondon thought it was in Cornwall.
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Back to the boring bus...
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CT 1, Interesting that you can say something negative about London, but if I put down Manchester...
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I like this Glass box.
It has a "Tardis-Like" quality to it...
I just wonder... is this latest picture a hint from The Joker, that we should we now refer to Eddie, as "Daisy"..?
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The bus went to another stop, I guess.
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(2) David: have you got a bus? Definitely something wrong with my computer!
(4) Charlie: 'Daisy' is definitely going to be in trouble for referring to Jo as Joe (again).
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L_S 6
There can be little doubt about it!
And, with further "thought", maybe The Joker is suggesting Eddie be referred to as "Petal"...
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L_S 6, It was there and gone, as Tommy Cooper would say, "Just like that!"
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Is that what the flowers on marijuana look like?
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David (9),
No
and No.
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lol
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D_M 9
Not on the ones I see in Southwark Market...
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Ooh, nice windflowers
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C 11, I'll ask the Dean of the Cathedral there the next time I see him.
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Ed (10) - Why with the stinkhorn?
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Sorry, I forgot for a moment and thought it was Dick instead of Dave.
;-)
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http://farm1.static.flickr.com/160/349164504_f56ae78525_m.jpg
Shomething wrong with the link?
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Mr. Obama needs Muslim countries onside for his excursion into Afghanistan. And this, ironically, includes Iran. His logistical routes will cross Muslim countries. The big loser here is Israel which is quietly being dumped.
Turkey is not going to become a member of the EU.
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Ed (16) I'm saying nothing :o)
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Re Battlefields. Small museums great idea to let us know about the battles. Must make sure they tell both sides. When I visited Waterloo (french belgium) you would think that Napoleon won that particular battle.
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What is stinkhorn? Do you guys have smell-o-internet?
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Lady_Sue - click on the second NO in comment 10 ;o)
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(22) Gillianian - thank you for the tip (no pun intended).
SHOCKED! I'm shocked at you (Ed and Horse) naughty, naughty boys. Off to the naughty step immediately!
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Lady Sue - Stinkhorn is the common name for that fungus. It's true name is Phallus Impudicus - and I'm not joking!
Many years ago, as a student, I sat up one night time-lapse photographing one of them emerging. The smell is not at all nice.
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DNCN (3)
This is because it is sometimes ok to use a bit of licence when describing 'that London'. The reason is that many, many things are 'London' centric to the detriment of the rest of the country.
For instance, the Olympics, Wembley stadium, (home of England team), most corporate headquarters and most general art, theatre and stuff like that. So you can see why us Northerners can say things like 'that London' meaning, it thinks it is the centre of everything.
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Loving the 'Listen Again' facility. Only just heard the programme properly twelve hours later.
Peter Snow's enthusiasm for battlefields was engaging - any chance of a link for more information?
Gang culture in Manchester: the policemen "doing the rounds" at night are so brave. That is really first class policing of the streets and they should be applauded.
The comment about the Liam Treadwell's teeth was inappropriate. Surely Claire should know better?
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I know they gotta talk about something but all this bickering to and fro about MPs expenses... The real corruption of power is that they won't get their heads together to try and tackle Global Warming - the biggest issue to face modern civilisation looming large on the horizon. As always this is underexposed in media and government.
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SN (27) That is because it is totally natural occurrence that has happened countless times throughout the history of our planet and nothing we do or say will change that.
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(28) T-bird, hurrah! A bird brave enough to say exactly what I've been thinking but have been too cowardly to voice it. Absolutely agree with you. Global warming may wipe us all out eventually but the planet will go on and evolve anew, probably just as it has done for millions of years.
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Sorry, Lady Sue - Thunderbird is wrong ...
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Hmm, quite like the idea of calling Eddie Daisy, since he's insisting on calling me Joe.
Not that I'm allowed to take him to task in any way because he has just been nominated for not 1, not 2, but THREE Sony awards!!
Now did any of you have anything to say about the programme? I liked it last night, especially Peter Snow.
Jo (no E, Eddie- it's not all about you, you know.)
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(30) Sid: how can any of us know unless we had been around millions of years or had records going back that long? I do think T-bird has a point - though I fully accept it is an unpopular, minority one.
Wow Jo! That's very exciting! Congratulations to Daisy! Could we have some details as to categories please?
[Hurt] I did say things about the programme @26.
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Just catching up - and NO, those are not daisies! Unless my eyes deceive me, they are anemones, wood anemones to be precise, which are in full flower at the moment.
So, The Joker, do we refer to Eddie as Anemone instead? Doesn't have the same ring somehow ....
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What is -95 + -37 + -40?
Well, it's Friday, yesterday's and today's (so far) falls on the London Stock Exchange.
But...but.. but.. just a minute isn't it also -172?
And wasn't Thurday's FTSE rise 165 points?
And wasn't THAT the rise (on the day of the G20 communique) that Nils presented as saving us all?
Doesn't he take any notice of his own intro tune. Upshares or Downshares (mainly Down), it's a slump isn't it?
Just like The Economist is calling it. Or are they trouble making, Nils?
Yawners apart, different mouth pieces seem to be saying different things about the FSB, the slump and
'What is to be done?'
Could you explain where they're all coming from, so we get a better idea of where we're all going, Nils?
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Lady Sue, at the risk of restarting conversations that have been had here in the past, I'm with Sid (30).
We do have means of looking back millions of years (geology, ice cores etc) and combined with recent measured records we can be absolutely certain that while change to the climate has always happened it is now happening much faster and is the result of human activity.
That being so there are still things we can do to slow the rate of change and to plan for life in a changed world.
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Anne, thanks for toeing the party line but I'm sorry you are wrong.
No one knows how fast or slow the earth has cooled or warmed before. In fact no one knows if we are going in or coming out of an ice ace at the moment.
I am afraid that I dont follow fashion so don't tend to follow fashionable doctrine, but you are of course welcome to.
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The Joker 31
Peter Snow is always good value, so usually, is PM.
So, "Daisy" it is then...
Incidentally, it appears something's gone wrong with "Daisy's" Sony nomination. I understand that using his "Eddie" pseudonym, "Eddie" nominated himself five times...
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The three nominations:
THE NEWS JOURNALIST OF THE YEAR
Eddie Mair - BBC News for Radio 4
THE INTERVIEW AWARD
Eddie Mair interviews Ken Livingstone - BBC News for Radio 4
THE SPEECH RADIO PERSONALITY OF THE YEAR
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T-bird - sometimes the party line is right, you know, and those who go against it for fashion reasons are wrong.
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Lady Sue - 'The Science and Politics of Global Climate Change' by Dessler and Parson is a really good account of why T-bird is wrong. I don't have the time or the space to give a lecture on the subject here - but the info is available to anyone who cares to look.
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TBird and Lady Sue, this is something I commented on before, when the environment minister in NI decided to stop the broadcast of certain adverts. This is what I said then:
One logical construct I would like to float for comment:
A) If climate change is not a reality, but we make the move to system based not on a carbon-underpinned energy format, what is the detrimental cost to us as a society/species?
B) If climate change is a reality, but we chose not to make the move to a system underpinned by alternative/renewable energy format, what is the detrimental cost to us as a society/species?
I'd like to know your thoughts. Also, we know that oil will run out. Shouldn't we be doing what we can to plan for that fact even if climate change is not proven?
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All, FYI
On Climate Change and "Balance in reporting"
And, the "settled scientific judgement"
Hesiodos
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The Royal Society has this free info about 'Facts and fictions about climate change'.
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Today (in blog time, ie Monday) Darling, Brown, King and Adair (FSA honcho) met at No. 10 to discuss how to implement the FSB innovations here
(And the other stuff in the G20 communique. I pick out the FSB 'cos some of it might actually work)
Anyway, they're meeting again today (RealTime, ie Tuesday).
Any chance of your programme covering these meetings, today?
That nice Robert Peston**** used to give you some insider stuff. Could we hear from him?
I'd have thought they were important.
Even when there are red rubber bands to count.
**** Don't ask him about today's markets though. He's been talking about a recovery**(courtesy of the G20) but all gains since the communique have been eroded here in London.
**The thing about recoveries is that things have to stop getting worse before they can start.
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The interesting thing about the climate change debate is that very few people are qualified to make any sort of judgement, and we all have to rely on the experts and their published data.
My only complaint against this is that I have watched for decades as experts produced one thing and another, and there is a nasty tendency for two things to happen: [1] they don't agree with each other and [2] they turn out later to have been simply wrong.
(remembering "Thalidomide is safer for pregant women to take than Valium" and "The MMR jab is dangerous", both of which were less than fully accurate...)
Now, a short time ago I was being warned in dire terms that the world was heading for a new ice-age. I go on being with Fearless Fred in thinking that we lose very little by taking seriously the notion that we should cut back energy-use, and stand to lose the world if the most recent lot of dire warnings are correct, but I am not certain whether I *believe* the scare-mongering.
If it is correct, we are running very short of time to do anything constructive about it, is all, so maybe we should act now and lynch the people who got it wrong later, if it turns out that they did.
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Big Sis...thank you.
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Eddie (46) - Was that you practising your acceptance speech?
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Eddie: You're very welcome. I hope it won't be long before you'll be able to give us your Gwyneth Paltrow impression at the Awards Ceremony. :o)
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Chris - the MMR scare was the work of one incompetent/dishonest researcher, whipped up into a storm by the press (sadly not just the red tops).
As far as climate change goes, there is widespread agreement among the scientists who work in the field. I don't believe it's scare-mongering.
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Chris,
This is not inconsistent with "Anthropogenic Global Warming", in that we are due for another ice age (if the past is prelude) sometime soon, and the AGW may be offsetting the onset...but, as usual, we are overdoing it.Let's just add some soluble iron to the ocean to offset the offset - OOOOPS!
;-)
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Sid'n'Ed, the point is that whether I believe it or not doesn't matter. I happen to feel that not wasting things we can't replace is a Good Plan, and that not breaking things we can't mend is a Good Plan, and since if we break the planet we probably can't mend it, maybe not breaking it by accident is a Good Plan...
We have less to lose that way, anyhow.
Sid, it is certainly true that the MMR scare was manufactured. What about the salt scare? or the egg scare? or... There are dozens and hundreds of scares out there, and all seem to be treated of with the same degree of shock-horror, such that it really isn't surprising that the cries of "wolf!" no longer get quite the same attention that they might have done in ages past *even if there is a grey lupine crittur with big teeth standing grinning at the cave-mouth*.
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