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As no warrent was given to raid Green's office and one was needed, everything taken should be returned immediately and the case against him dropped. And, even though it won't happen, as it did in India, several heads should roll, from the police up to J Smith.
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I am still laughing about this pin head dancing everybody is doing.
If say I were detained by anybody - very unlikely I know, Eddie but if I were - would I be entitled to ask openly whether it was under any particular Law?
Ah but MPs now. lol
Perhaps I should ask my own MP ......?
No, Steelie - that is a silly idea.
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sp 2, Are you calling all these people pinheads?
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Subject: Porky and the MP
Wot!!! No Warrant????
I rest my case.
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More to the point, am I the only person not to have received a newsletter from Eddie today?
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BS 5, The police have confiscated it, and Eddie's computer.
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I hear her majesty is now using the F word.
Forward, that is
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Big Sister (5) I haven't had a newsletter either - it must be the weather.
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Did anybody notice Prince Philip's opinion of the Queen's Peach?
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That would explain it, David. No doubt tonight's Editor will deny having given permission for the confiscation or arrest of Eddie's computer.
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Mrs Eff: I thought they'd cleared all the leaves off the lines (assuming they were the right kind of leaves). Is it ice, then?
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H Harman, "Blah blah blah blah blah."
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Number 3 - Pin heads?
No and I wouldn't want to flatter them but they are dancing on a small and already arguable point whilst ignoring the main subject.
An MP was ARRESTED! MP had his say today on the reason and yes - "he would say that wouldn't he?"
And innocent he may be but the noises off outrage from all is so hypocritical as allegedly it always seems in the House of Commons.
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BS 10, But don't ask H Harman what she thinks.
I see where we are now supposed to discuss this on another thread. Probably to keep the police guessing.
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sp 13, But didn't M Martin sound contrite? I'll bet he practiced that in front of a mirror.
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Terrible interview of Harriet Harman today Eddie - I'm sick of this supposedly 'hard nosed' questioning that can so obviously go nowhere.
Of course Harman can't comment on the details of the case - no matter how much macho posturing you infuse your questions with - and nor should she.
Of course the police did not 'need' a warrant - you only need a warrant to guarantee entry. It does seem very remiss of the serjeant of arms, however, that she didn't insist upon one.
Finally, the idea that you (Eddie) tried to pin Harman down about when she was a minister with the scandal with her sister was embarrassingly incompetant - it was a question that revovled upon the definition of 'confidential document' and had no place in the interview. God knows I'm no fan of Harman, but this was just another example of the tedious schoolboy debating tactics that so infects PM these days. Try listening to the world at one to work out how it's done.
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Eddie, I'll bet you think Also Sprach Zarathustra was from 2001 A Space Odyssey.
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I can see some creative ways to become unemployed!
Why not if you can not keep up the payments on the mortgage why not get yourself unemployed. (Quick whisper will do it).
You can then be safe in your house and time for a sabbatical.
It will have to be fully controlled in that everyone on the scheme must have "NO" saving left or any records of saving in the last 5 years.
PS. Still did not ask question about all those that complained about the police to their MPs. Now the police have all the complaints.
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Subject: Porky and the MP-contd
Outrage follows"No Warrant"
Politicians hop up and down but no one is suggesting that anything positive should be done to prevent recurrence.
The Opposition whine without offering a constitutional response. The Government deny any problem and support Porky.
The Speaker is incoherent, as usual!
Who will take sensible steps to curb Porky?
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Had my hands stuck in the sink - so really enjoyed the "flag" message. Unfortunately my laptop is a dinosaur so I missed the fun. Keep it up though.
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What is PM's fascination for music. This evening's programme sounded like Radio 2 (Upshares) meets Radio 3 (Persil + Iranian music- lovely, enjoyed that) then coming together as performance art and finally the whole morphing into a particularly surreal Joe Orton black comedy (Illegal immigrants are being employed in "sensitive positions in Whitehall").
Perhaps "Paint it Black" would have been more appropriate.
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Thanks for putting Harriet on the ropes.
It seems like the BBC is the only effective opposition at the minute.
I hope to hear Eddie and PM when the police raid the House of Commons over the 45 minute warning WMD Fairy Tale.
If the Bloggosphere doesn't get these inept, criminally negligent and not so say amateurs out then perhaps you can?
Time for a German system where a separate court safeguards our democracy?
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I only posted this because I conceitedly (very) thought, from the quote below, it was about, well, about me...
"The hair is a little thinner and the belt around the waist may have gone out half a notch, but the competitive glint still burns brightly"
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/tennis/pete-sampras-return-of-the-master-1048645.html
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It must be difficult for poor old Harriet having once been a respected activist for the National Council of Civil Liberties to have to attempt to defend a despotic and totalitarian government that is obliterating any remaining trace of civil liberties in the United Kingdom.
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Morning All...
Thank you for posting.
A bit of debate on what to lead on... I wondered how genuinely interested people were about the Michael Martin/Damien Green story. But there wasn't very much in the Queen's Speech, the mortgage announcement dropped late, there was not much detail and the banks and other mortgage lenders did not want to comment until they knew more. So we did not do as much as we would have liked to.
On the Harriet Harman interview, it did prove difficult to pin her down. I don't agree with your analysis benlyle26 (@16). I really don't think Eddie is someone you can accuse of hard-nosed macho posturing. He is a searching interviewer and presses people when he is not getting answers. The points you make about warrants may well be obvious to you - are they to everyone else? And we were not asking Harriet FHarman to comment on the specifics of the case, but on the Parliamentary processes involved, questions which were legitimate, apposite and not in contempt at all, and the generalities of confidential material. So, I think you are well wide of the mark.
David McNickle (@17)... you seem pretty wise in the ways of Stanley Kubrick's soundtrack choices. Okay, for ten points (and no conferring - the internet included), what did he use in Paths of Glory?
I'll have to hurry you. Come on, come on.
All the best
Rog
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R_S 25, Kubrick lived near St Albans. I think the farm he had now makes good goat's cheese.
I have an LP of Clockwork Orange music on synthesizer.
I haven't seen Paths of Glory, so don't know. Do you think I listen to Classic FM?
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Still haven't received yesterday's newsletter. I guess it got detained by the Metropolitan Police and is still undergoing investigation ...
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BS 27, They sent it to me to proof read.
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Can you hurry up, then, David?
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Roger (25):
I would have liked a wee bit more on Mrs Harman's sister passing documents to her as I'd never heard that before - a touch of background wouldn't have gone amiss for those of us not paying attention at the back, but otherwise a good interview.
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Cat: I think this is the story:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1457591/Harman-and-her-sister-in-case-papers-blunder.html
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Big Sister (31):
Thanks for that, very illuminating. Two things that leap out at me is that Mrs Harman only mentioned that as Solicitor General she was entitled to see those documents, but neglected to say that she'd passed them on to another minister.
Further, although she said she was entitled to see them (from that article):
'After returning the papers to her sister last month, the Solicitor General - herself a lawyer - told the court in written evidence that the Government lawyer "now believes he was probably wrong on the advice he gave me".'
[That it would be OK to receive the information.]
So unless the government lawyer has changed his mind again, it *wasn't* OK for her to have those documents, and she knows that.
In retrospect, Eddie may not have pushed that aspect far enough...
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I think the government bafflement about the law got further illustrated by this piece of gibberish I noticed today, regarding a new campaign to make London 'free' of fake DVDs.
"Higher Education and Intellectual Property Minister David Lammy backed the initiative on Wednesday. Mr Lammy said: "Good law is great but enforced law is better."
So, bad law enforced is preferable to good law? Presumably both good AND enforced is beyond their imagination.
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BS 29, I use my finger when I read, and it has M*rm*te on it.....I think.
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SSC 30, I hadn't heard of that either.
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BS 31, Sarah Harman looks a bit like her sister, at least in some Google images. But, there appears to be more than one Sarah Harman, ahem.
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SSC 32, 'Aspect', interesting word. Don't turn your back on a chicken.
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David (37):
Words to live by...
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I'd forgotten (but looking these matters up) that Ms Harman herself had a run in with MI5 about 20 years ago (along with Patricia Hewitt) when it was found that the organisation held files upon the two women as a result of their work for the National Council for Civil Liberties. No doubt Ms Harman, therefore, has some quite strong (but privately held) views about issues like that involving Damian Green. Especially as it was a whistleblower who revealed the matter of the files ....
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