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I want to know why none of my photos have been used yet.
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Sack both Ross and Brand.
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Ross and Brand are only funny by being crude and the BBC seem happy with this situation. The BBC are only carrying out this investigation because of the complaints, not because they believe its wrong. For heavens sake it was passed to go out by a BBC executive.
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Those R2 presenters are quite simply guilty of bullying. One "apology" from one of them that I heard on R4 was very obviously insincere, and should be treated as a continuation of the original bullying. The BBC should say so, should sack them for good, should do the same for such supervisory staff as approved the "prank" (as today I heard a spokesman describe the matter), and should consider referring the matter to the police for prosecution, with, if they do not do so, a public statement explaining why they have not.
Tim [Personal details removed by Moderator]
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Brand's so called apology with his pathetic postscript 'but it was funny though' really demonstrates that he doesn't quite get what he has done. Stop his pay for 2 months and then call him in to the office and say sorry, I meant 3 months. He needs a dose of his own medicine. Brand and Ross are providing the censorship lobby with lots of ammunition. Their colleagues should be giving them absolute hell.
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This gay housing estate - is it being built from their own funds, because they have no kids so more money to spend, or is it being funded by the local authority, because I wish our local authorities would start building homes in England for all our people instead of you can only have a home if you're rich.
It's time Gordon Brown remembered why he joined the Labour Party or was it just to spin badly?
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Brand and Ross are
puerile, overpaid, unprofessional and a disgrace to public broadcasting. Sack them both.
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For me the unforgivable aspect of this episode is that the idiots ( slur intended) didn't confine their comments to the media but rang a private number.
Viewers can turn the knob but a telephone subscriber has to listen. He/she has no remedy.
The BBC has deterioratd in the past few years. Far more unsubstantiated stories are broadcast on the radio and TV and the fact that our reporters have been barred from several countries is not due to secrecy, others are there, but their partisanship. Bring back the old fashioned standards of accuracy and impartiality
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If the BBC do not sack Ross and Brand and the controller who vetted and gave permission for the airing, also sack the BBC manager who should have sacked all of the above instantly then I for one will not renew my licence.
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Get Real - well educated BBC Radio 4 listeners...this is hardly the end of the world....especially when over the last few years the Western Ruling Elites have committed massive crimes against many people around the Globe...which is nothing new over the last 500 years...also don't forget that the British Rightwing mass media hate the BBC...ie see todays Dail Mail....
Brian
Brian V Peck
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Daily Mail
Brian
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Like silly schoolboys, Russell Brand and Jonathan Ross are quite irritating!
My view is,they should be punished.I suggest,like footballers who commit a foul should be stopped from playing eg stopped from broadcasting for one or two programmes.this might dent their over inflated egos and humble them. Oh yes and docked some of their over inflated wages as well.
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gS 11,
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The behaviour of Russell Brand and Jonathan Ross is absolutely unacceptable.
This is not what I expect from anyone in the BBC.
Both men are highly overpaid and - as this incident has shown - unqualified for the job they currently hold.
If they were cricketers, at least half of their match fee would be docked. So the BBC can cut their massive salary by at least 25% and award the money to Mr. Sacks and his granddaughter as a small compensation.
Personally I think that both men should actually be sacked from the BBC with immediate effect and without payment of extra money.
They have both violated good taste and the human rights of two normal and innocent people who never did them or anyone else any harm.
I am disgusted and outraged that two halfwits, whom the BBC pays massive amounts of money from our licence fee, are allowed to behave in such a way. There is no excuse for it and the heads of the culprits - including the producer and whoever signed the pre-recorded programme off as fit for broadcast - have to roll. Apologies are not enough and only add insult to injury.
If this does not happen, I will withhold my licence fee in future and encourage my relatives and neighbours to do the same. If this is what the BBC does with our money, you won't get any more from me.
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Well I wouldn't normally bother even referring to such a glaringly enormous bandwagon as this, but REALLY! Talk about the baying hordes! We now see the priorities of an enormous number of PM (Radio 4) listeners hanging out for everyone to see. The World's ecomomic system falls to pieces in a a few weeks; Georgia's attack on civilians in South Ossetia is revealed on PM and all we get is message after message of 'outraged' listeners ranting on about two comedians making rude remarks on someone's answerphone.
Go on PM journalists, admit it. Sometimes you must wonder why you bother.
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Re: J W at 6:03 pm.
Does J W categorise the phone calls as simply 'rude'?
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Re Jonathon Ross and Russell Brand - this is one of the reasons why, increasingly, I am no longer watching BBC TV-and I am not alone. None of my family watch it and I used to berate them for not doing so and watching rubbish on other channels. Now I regret that I have also abandoned the Beeb and search other channels for something watchable. I used to preach that TV was meant to be either entertainment or education. Sadly the BBC is no longer either!
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First of all I haven't heard the exact comments made by Messers Brand & Ross but then again I suspect neither have most of the PM listeners currently baying for their blood.
I understand that they allude to Russel Brand stating his desire to want to sleep with 'Voluptia' or that he may indeed already have...
A quick google reveals the lady in question is a page three wannabe and markets herself aggressively on her sexuality, her burlesque dancing and S&M styled photographs on her own Bebo site... Whilst she states that her current european tour with her dance troup titled 'The Satanic Sluts' has been called off due to the humiliation I would wager it has more to do with the fact she's rubbing her hands together at the prospect of getting to pose in all the tabloids...
I make no judgement on Voluptia's image or profession but on inspection surely its obvious she has merely been successful in attracting the kind of attention she so desperately craves.
Were the messages in poor taste? Maybe, but thats purely up to your sense of humour. Should the pair be chastised? No.
If Mr Sacchs is upset by the messages left on his phone regarding his granddaughter purhaps he might like to focus his efforts on his granddaughters choices in courting such attention rather than curtailing the ever dwindling freedoms of expression in this country of ours.
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apart from the viscous evil of the ross broadcast.
how many listeners, like me, leap to change or switch off any programme that these people appear or speak on?
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Not on PM, but on the news at 6 just now, I was greatly amused to be told both that Led Zeppelin plan to reform and that they have been offered large sums of money to reform -- not re-form as in get together again, but reform as in improve their ways of life.
What can Led Zep have been up to now!?
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Sorry to say this but just watch J Ross on fridays he seams to think that it`s clever to swear at is guest I realy do think it`s time to sack him.He is not worth the money.
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Sack Brand and Ross immediately.
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To investigate why this offensive material was broadcast is to miss the essential point. That is that the calls should not have been made in the first place. That they were they extremely offensive and distressing is self evident. They demonstrate that Ross and Brand lack both talent and judgment. The puerile, indeed infantile, apologies in my opinion made matters worse. The inquiry should be as to why they should continue to be employed at taxpayers' expense to peddle self indulgent rubbish which only they could possibly find amusing; indeed if they do find it amusing it demonstrates that they have a combined mental age barely exceeding single figures. It seems to me that the only sensible and acceptable course would be to terminate both of their contracts forthwith.
Whilst great offence has been caused to others the real damage is to these two fourth rate performers who should no longer be feather-bedded by the licence/tax payer.
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One question to ask everyone who has complained, including Mr Brown is do you regularly listen to Russel and Johnathans shows and do you find them funny? I would be astounded if many replies came back yes.
Both presenters humour can be infantile, obnoxious, and lewd at times - especially Russel, but they are also two of the funniest people on the BBC, and both personal favorites of mine. Perhaps they did step over the line this time, but without risk taking you encourage extremly bland broadcasting.
Perhaps questions should be asked of the producers since the show was pre recorded, but it is ridiculous to demand their resigantions over this media led storm in a teacup. An apology should be enough.
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JW - 15
What?! You mean Ross and Brand were responsible for those other things too? How could we have missed that?
As Kath would say, "I've only one word to say to you - personal responsibility!"
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Brand and Ross must go.
If I was to have treated anyone in my place of employment like this I would be sacked. As would most people in most jobs. Why does there need to be an inquiry sack them and never have them back. I object to my licence fee going towards their over inflated wages.
With regard to the comments about the other issues happening world wide. Well yes there are but this is an attack on an individual and his family and I personally think that getting the little things right (not that this is if you are a member of the Sachs family) is a mark of the soceity you live in.
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I want a housing estate just for dog owners.
Another for employed people.
Another for short dark haired people (of which I am one) etc etc.
Now I have a problem should I live on the dog estate, I have dogs? The empployed status estaet , I have a job? Or the short dark haired estate, I am that?
Of course if I was Brand or Ross I could afford a house on all three estates and commnece insulting all my neighbours.
I suspect that most gay and lesbian people were crawling the walls at the gay\ lesbian gheto, sorry, estate idea.
Nuts
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Joseph Walker (15) - couldn't agree with you more.
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Jonathon Ross has been smutty and, at times, downright disgusting on his TV program, so much so that I can no longer watch his show, even when there are guests that might be of interest. It seems his attempts at toilet wall homour have also dragged Russell Brand (who knows no better) into his mindset.
Jonathon Ross should be sacked from both BBC Radio and TV, and forced to repay the licence fee payers some of the £20 million plus he has got from us (the public) over the last few years.
Let him take his brand of smut over to one of the lesser watched 'adult' channels where the scum that he appeals to can watch the degenerate to their heart's content.
Regards
EddieB
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Ref. the Ross/Brand affair, if you want to see the worst in British life look no further than loudmouthed, foulmouthed yobs, and that summaries this pair nicely. Thanks to the BBC management the arrogant Ross thinks he walks on water and can do as he wishes.He, Brand and the producer should be looking for employment this time next week, it's the very least the BBC owes the licence fee payers
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I do hope that Brand and Ross are made to pay some form of fine and that they come to realise that they are in public ownership and that we are watching them in more sense than them being "great super stars"
The BBC do however seem to idolise these people, once they get on one show they appear everywhere...are we short of talent,, I do not think so ..Come on BBC let some other budding stars share the loot and let 's see a little less of the favourite few!!
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Like many others here, I switch channel whenever these two snickering hyenas appear.
I thoroughly resent paying hard earned money on the Licence Fee when it gets thrown at these two and others of the same genre.
Give the radio slots to Danny Baker and (the once enjoyable)'Film' programmes to Mark Kermode who has no equals in his chosen expertise.
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Reading some of the comments on here and the other Brand/Ross blog, it appears that there are some people out there who really do believe that insulting or offensive behaviour, like humiliation of an innocent victim, can be justified if the results are "funny". They're wrong.
The fact that the BBC appears to be increasingly feeding their warped tastes is a reflection of just how far standards in Britain, and at the Beeb in particular, have fallen. Time for the DG to step in, I would say.
No, I'm not a relic of the past or a Daily Mail reader, just someone who believes that we should always think of how it might affect others when we attempt to create humour.
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It's a bit depressing I know, but what is the point of complaining about Brand or Ross ? Your complaints will be received by those who either 'saw the emperor's clothes' when they hired them, or would have to admit that they now 'don't see any clothes'. If the first case applies, complaining is pointless, and if the second case applies, who will have the necessary courage to admit a mistake?
I find it more entertaining to strip wallpaper than to listen to/watch either of these two 'megastars'.
I don't condemn all tv/radio. I liken it to my golf - one rare good 'shot' keeps me coming back .
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Who enjoys these programmes, apart from the two, Brand and Ross? Not adults, surely. They are not witty, or even mildly funny or entertaining. It's not a matter of good taste, or offence, but of overpaying people who do not even cause a small ripple of amusement. One must be really desperate to laugh at such feeble jokes.
Come on, BBC, give us something interesting, and funny.
Sybil
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Isn't the most worrying aspect of this affair the fact that a criminal offence appears to have been committed using the BBC's resources?
Other commentators have written that in most other public (and private) sector organizations, this would be clear grounds for summary dismissal of those involved.
The defence put forward is that the broadcast is edgy and funny. Is this a defence that may now be used by other obscene and prank callers?
Furthermore, this is not an isolated incident. Mr. Brand has "previous" in terms of his prank call to the emergency services. Is it right for the police and prosecutors to allow celebrities to use a defence of comedy? If so, what example does this set?
I'd like to see Mr. Ross' reaction if his comic book collection was stolen and burnt. Would he allow the individual responsible to escape prosecution if they claimed this was edgy and funny too?
Actually, would the BBC like to commission a programme from me in which I will do just that? £18m should suffice ...
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Here is a petition to sack them.
Online petition - Sack Jonathan Ross and Russell Brand
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(15) JW - The reaction is related to the effect that a comment could make.
I want the bankers to pay. I want the wars to be fought more responsibly within our resources. But there is little a small comment can do.
However, I have sat quiet by while the BBC has wasted money on JR and RB. I thought I was a tiny minority.
But due to them butting the limits of acceptability and believing their own egos they proved there are no barriers controlling them. Comedians set their level to the audience, that is the genius of the ones that stand the test of time.
This incident was the final hole that caused the dam to burst.
The listeners can see that they are talking directly to the corporation responsible. Their little comment is counted. 10,000. It is not just an in-house discussion on a topic far removed from their influence.
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sadly I have to agree with the majority that Ross and Brand should both be sacked immediately, otherwise what possible deterent can there be to prevent similar drisgraceful and hurtful acts from happening.
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To take the header: 'you may be cross about Russell Brand' (or rather, about a particular example of his and Jonathan Ross's brand of broadcasting), but I have a feeling that the discussion is beginning to turn into 'I dislike them' -- 'well I like them' -- 'well you're an idiot then' -- 'well you're an imbecile for saying so' exchanges, with a sideline in 'oh come on, poodles are being eaten alive in Casmogaloglia and you are worrying about something as petty as this! Get real'...
Now, I agree that there are several gadzillions of more important things to worry about, but I think we ought to be able to talk about both or all these things, and that this isn't an either/or, black/white, if we talk about Ross we can't also talk about the energy crisis situation! I also hope it is possible to like or dislike Brand and/or Ross without being rude to each other about our personal opinions of their style.
Oh, blah, doesn't *that* make me a wishy-washy liberal Radio 4 listener! :-)
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what saddo takes the time to watch a programme then think i'm going to complain 10,000 just don't watch them then when u know what they're all about!!!!
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I don't suppose anyone really expected the program Producer to actually watch the Ross / Brand rubbish. Therefore, how would he be able to vet it before allowing it to be broardcast.
The fault lies entirely with the irresponsible, pair who should be sacked.
I note that the apology enacted by Brand was little more than a further attempt to make a joke of it.
We should not have to suffer this kind of gratuitous offense being broardcast at public expense.
The BBC had led, not followed the slide of Britain's youth into the gutter.
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Having heard and read the details relating to Ross and Brand and their offensive remarks I must add my point of view to the BBC.
I believe that these individuals have demonstrated their true level of incompetence,inability and total absence of talent.They have finally reached out and shown themselfs for what they truely are.Overpaid waste of licence payers money,imature school children with oversized egos to match their wallets. In any other employment in this country they would be fired imediately.What any investigation into the facts will arrive at is the fact that these two insulting and offencive individuals have aired their views to the public whilst working for the BBC during working hours.In itself this must be grounds for dismissal.No other employer would delay the process or allow these two to ever broadcast to the public.There was no mistake that can be justified as a one off.One off is too much when dealing with the media.Others in the BBC should have controlled these yobs but the fact is while others should be disaplined they should be sacked imediately.Are they suspended at present? If not why not,as this would be the first reaction of any competient management. In other public employment situations people have been sacked for lack of PC. Who but the insane could condone leaving these two in post after such abusive behaviour. BBC sack them and then follow the investigation into what others in the BBC should have done.The public know what these two misfits have done and it wasent funny.
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I stopped watching Jonathan Ross' Friday night "chat" show some time ago when I found that the language and tone of the interviews was offensive, small minded, self indulgent and gratuitus. It comes as no surprise that Ross has demeaned himself further with his latest irresponsible and offensive behaviour.
I object to my license fee being used to pay the inflated wages of a talentless imbecile.
Improve the quality of British broadcasting simply and easily by sacking Ross immediately. Mainstream broadcasting has no place for this self indulgent media leech.
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Do not sack Brand or Ross.
They do not deserve to lose their jobs.
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Do not Sack Jonathan Ross and Russell Brand.
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DO NOT SACK JONATHAN ROSS!
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One further comment on this Ross and Brand situation I would like to point out.
I do not expect that these two have even the slightest degree of decency or integrity,for if they had they would not wait for a public outcry.They would jump to resign rather than being sacked.But I for one do not see these people as having a shred of integrity.I would like for them both to stand up and resign from public media and accept their justifiable shame.Think of others in less public roles who have resigned knowing it was the right thing to do.They should go now and go quickley.
We all know at our expense they can aford to.
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Surely the way forward, for those who have taken exception to the puerile behaviour of the two overrated and overpaid 'celebrities, is to SWITCH OFF. The BBC would soon improve the content of their programmes.
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Surely the key point is that if they had picked on one of their mates, nobody would have cared much. Picking on Andrew Sachs shows they only have the guts to go for soft targets. But don't sack them. If that happens somebody else will give them a job - take them off the air for 6 months.
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Brand and Ross are worthless detritus about whom nothing much more need be said but what was the "BBC" doing to allow such bullying to be broadcast to the nation?
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L_J 45, 46, 47, Anything else you would like to say? I have a dictionary and thesaurus handy.
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Manuel should sue the backsides off all those concerned, including auntie, and give the lot to his grandaughter, after all "she deserves it".
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Can't see what all the fuss is about!
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I agree with those people who are complaining about the bullying done by Brand and Ross. While I don't enjoy their type of "comedy" The point is surely that they were indulging in they type of behavior we regularly hear condemned as damaging in school children. And because of their celebrity status they are showcasing this as "cool".
Cruelty should be named and shamed. This is not about a lack of taste it, and many similar "pranks" more commonly heard on radio one, are about climbing up the pecking order by pushing the less able down. Why has the BBC made this a lucrative career path?
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Yesterday was the day the BBC died. It's News service suffered a mortal wound with Hutton, now the entertainment department has gone to the dogs too. A national tragedy.
Ross is still under contract to the BBC, when most honest and decent people agree the presenter (he's not a comedian) has not only broken the law with BBC sanction, but seems, uncharacteristically for him, to be unable to face his public at present. I don't blame him, he is loathed.
BBC still twitters on about 'pushing the boundaries' and 'tomorrow's audience' well I can tell you what my 16 year old niece says on the matter "Ross just sounds like a dirty old man to me" and she's right.
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i never usually bother with these thing and usually keep my opinion's to myself but this is turned into a joke really people dying all over the place and a prank that went wrong make's front page news when you know that russell brand or johnathan ross will be on don't listen as simple as i wonder if the people complaining are okay with the fact that it was fine for the granddaughter to go to a national paper and state that russell brand screams during sex she's a fame hungry wannabe for god sake her pr's max clifford that say's it all really to stay silent may have had more of an impact but she clearly isn't miss dignity herself and her grandad must clearly have already been proud of her career as one part of the satanic slut's!!!! now thanks to some sad people who think oh i'm bored let's complain to radio about that! when really all they had to do was turn it off she's laughing all the way to the bank and has already got a programme coming about her side of the story no doubt statin how bad he was in bed anyways britains laughable at time's makes me right p*****d off!!!
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