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Eddie Mair | 08:53 UK time, Wednesday, 4 June 2008

Be your own radio critic! Tell us here, frankly, what you thought of tonight's programme. In the PM office we meet every night at 1800 in this Glass Box:

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We talk about the content of the programme and try to give an honest assessment of what worked and what didn't...the things we missed and the places where our ambitions were not met. THIS virtual glass box you are looking at is where you are invited - indeed encouraged - to be your own critic. Comment on our hour by clicking on the comment link. Members of the production team will read the comments, and the editor should comment too. Click on The Glass Box link on the right of the page to read previous entries.

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  • 1. At 09:05am on 04 Jun 2008, DI_Wyman wrote:

    ye gods, from the sublime to the rediculous! But I do love the flowers!

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  • 2. At 09:19am on 04 Jun 2008, Big Sister wrote:

    Are they 'Going to San Francisco', Eddie? ;o)

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  • 3. At 09:23am on 04 Jun 2008, Roger_Sawyer wrote:

    Just on a small point of fact... it would be highly unlikely that Eddie and Sequin would be in the Glass Box at the same time, because Sequin is only here when Ed is away. Apart from that, obviously, everything else about the picture is absolutely as it is. I just didn't want anyone to think that this was an actual photo of the Glass Box. What with the Socks the Cat and taped programmes sagas. Is Socks the Cat in this picture by the way?

    Rog

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  • 4. At 09:33am on 04 Jun 2008, Big Sister wrote:

    I would imagine, Roger, that the Glass Box is a much smellier place these last few days - though I do remember Eddie complaining of a smell there some months back. Could it have been a smell in anticipation, I wonder?

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  • 5. At 09:34am on 04 Jun 2008, DI_Wyman wrote:

    Rog, surely you are forgetting the vortex in the fabric of space and time. If Ed pretends not to be there then would not Sequin ,by default, then appear?

    Mind you I'm no scientist!

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  • 6. At 09:41am on 04 Jun 2008, mygloriousleader wrote:

    (3) Rog, does that mean Eddie and Sequin never meet? How do they know that each other *really* exist?
    .
    Oh and Socks the cat is hiding behind the sofa. Can you see him...oh you've just missed him. If you are quiet and sit really still, and stare at the screen, you might just coax him out....Just say occasionally here puss, puss...

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  • 7. At 09:43am on 04 Jun 2008, Big Sister wrote:

    MGL, are you the artist behind these representations of the Glass Menagerie, perchance?

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  • 8. At 09:45am on 04 Jun 2008, Big Sister wrote:

    "Let me out of here! Meow! I'm being held hostage"
    -Socks the Cat

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  • 9. At 09:54am on 04 Jun 2008, mygloriousleader wrote:

    Oooh I've been outed!

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  • 10. At 09:55am on 04 Jun 2008, mygloriousleader wrote:

    Do you like them?

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  • 11. At 09:59am on 04 Jun 2008, mygloriousleader wrote:

    I think at three minutes to five this afternoon, all froggers should stop what they are doing and say "here puss, puss, puss. Here, puss, puss, puss" and we'll see if we can coax Socks the cat out. Remember three minutes to five....
    {'o'}

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  • 12. At 10:10am on 04 Jun 2008, Roger_Sawyer wrote:

    MGL and DIY (5) and (6)... Eddie and Sequin both insisted on having it written into their contracts that they never meet. Ever. Never. Never ever. Ever never. Top contract lawyers were involved.

    Eddie believes Sequin is a hologram and Sequin believes Eddie is a computer generated voice.

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  • 13. At 10:18am on 04 Jun 2008, Big Sister wrote:

    MGL: I think they are wonderful - Well done you! and Monty feels very honoured to be the top dog (well, the only dog!) in the PM Glass Menagerie, so woof woof from him.

    Roger: We all believe Eddie is computer generated, or at least computer powered, which is why the top of his head is missing. Sequin is probably a hologram, but a very sparkly one.

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  • 14. At 10:19am on 04 Jun 2008, Big Sister wrote:

    Oh, PS to Roger: More importantly, what do they think YOU are?

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  • 15. At 10:23am on 04 Jun 2008, mygloriousleader wrote:

    Then it is absolutely essential that they are put on the cover of Radio Times and then they would *have* to meet at one of those Radio Times 'I've been on the cover' parties.

    (Other tv magazines are available)

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  • 16. At 10:33am on 04 Jun 2008, RJMolesworth wrote:

    The BBC should substitute this picture for the bridge in the TV ad. As Eddie says, "Radio 4 - curious minds"

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  • 17. At 11:32am on 04 Jun 2008, Thunderbird wrote:

    It seems to me that the the glass box is getting a little too crowded, does noone on the PM team have any regard for its carbon foot-print

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  • 18. At 11:48am on 04 Jun 2008, mygloriousleader wrote:

    "Radio 4 Curious minds...
    and big trousers fit big behinds"

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  • 19. At 12:59pm on 04 Jun 2008, Humph wrote:

    If they have both made sure that it is in the contract (12), I wonder that means that Eddie is Sequin in drag (or vice versa).
    H.

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  • 20. At 1:14pm on 04 Jun 2008, Gillianian wrote:

    Ouch! I wish I hadn't looked at this thread - it still hurts to laugh!!
    Well done, mgl!

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  • 21. At 1:16pm on 04 Jun 2008, Vyle Hernia wrote:

    Simple Maths: This equation should be taught in all maths classes!
    From a strictly mathematical viewpoint it goes like this:
    What Makes 100%?
    What does it mean to give MORE than 100%?
    Ever wonder about those people who say they are giving more than 100%?
    We have all been to those meetings where someone wants you to give over 100%.
    How about achieving 103%? What makes up 100% in life? Here's a little mathematical formula that might help you answer these questions.

    If: A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z is represented as: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26

    It is obvious that H-A-R-D-W-O-R-K 8+1+18+4+23+15+18+11 = 98%
    And K-N-O-W-L-E-D-G-E 11+14+15+23+12+5+4+7+5 = 96%
    But A-T-T-I-T-U-D-E 1+20+20+9+20+21+4+5 = 100%

    While B-U-L-L-S-H-I-T 2+21+12+12+19+8+9+20 = 103%
    Finally, and most effectively
    A-S-S K-I-S-S-I-N-G 1+19+19+11+9+19+19+9+14+7 = 127%

    So, one can conclude with mathematical certainty that while Hard Work and Knowledge will get you close, and Attitude will get you there, it's the Bullshit and Ass Kissing that will put you over the top !

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  • 22. At 1:17pm on 04 Jun 2008, Thunderbird wrote:

    With all eyes in the box looking in different directions, it would make an excellent "spot-the-ball" competition. Rather than "spot-the -dog"

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  • 23. At 1:19pm on 04 Jun 2008, Vyle Hernia wrote:

    Sorry about previous post. I tried to paste in the text and was accused of including invalid HTML. In the process of trying to remove whatever the Frog was interpreting as HTML, I removed a few spaces and explanation: The newsletter syas they are going to discuss 110% this evening. Hence my posting.

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  • 24. At 1:20pm on 04 Jun 2008, Vyle Hernia wrote:

    And this blog doesn't correct my real typos either.

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  • 25. At 1:40pm on 04 Jun 2008, U11204129 wrote:

    'It's fallen down below the psychologically important 6,000 level and the actual fall is much greater than the psychologically important 100 level.'

    So what is it this time, Al Qieda, the dotcom boombust, subprime lending, the credit crunch, the blog not working properly or is it just that markets are sheer nonsense?

    Our experts know when the markets are 'right' so why don't we admin them to that (politically agreed) level?

    Those FTSE numbers settle incomes, investment etc when they are right (almost never) and when they are wrong.
    So why not plan instead - at those agreed right levels.

    So that economic decisions become ethical decisions rather than those of the markets.

    Let's hope the numbers are psychologically important enough to mean the end of international monopoly capitalism and the idle rich have to get proper jobs and Jonathon Ross pays it all back.(There's markets for you, again)

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  • 26. At 1:42pm on 04 Jun 2008, RJMolesworth wrote:

    ! " "£ $ * ' ?

    What comes out as what?

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  • 27. At 1:43pm on 04 Jun 2008, RJMolesworth wrote:

    It thinks an ampersand is HTML

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  • 28. At 4:19pm on 04 Jun 2008, White_Rat wrote:

    Oooh, Excitement.

    The home BBC News Webpage has got a link to this Blog down the right hand side, in the 'TV and Radio News programmes' section.

    The powers that be have realised that Radio exists!
    Be quick if you want to enjoy it, it may not last long.

    WR.

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  • 29. At 4:28pm on 04 Jun 2008, DI_Wyman wrote:

    Ooh ooh ooh WR, I can't contain myself!

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  • 30. At 4:56pm on 04 Jun 2008, thenicecatlady wrote:

    What is actually happening in the Glass Box is that Eddie is moving soooo fast that he appears to be in the box at the same time as Sequin, whereas in fact he's not there at all!!

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  • 31. At 5:36pm on 04 Jun 2008, Thunderbird wrote:

    It must be a very quiet news/comment day as the new blog lay-out is taking up a lot of time and effort.

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  • 32. At 6:03pm on 04 Jun 2008, Fifi wrote:

    The flowers are a lovely touch.

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  • 33. At 6:07pm on 04 Jun 2008, Big Sister wrote:

    Or, Fifi, the flowers are a touch lovely ......

    In Magic Roundabout mood:

    "Eric and his new friends Dougal and Florence wandered in a daze around the Big Room. Florence took particular care to replace the flowers in their hair each time one of the cats became too curious."

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  • 34. At 6:09pm on 04 Jun 2008, Thunderbird wrote:

    Big Sister !!!! wherever I look, you are there. Are you one of many clones?

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  • 35. At 6:11pm on 04 Jun 2008, Lady Sue wrote:

    Agree flowers are lovely but this nonsense isn't doing anything to persuade your listeners and bloggers that the PM team are a serious bunch of newsworthy journalists. Seems like you all have collectively wicked and silly sense of humour - a serious bunch of petals.

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  • 36. At 6:17pm on 04 Jun 2008, Big Sister wrote:

    More like one of many clowns, T-bird.

    Are you one of many marques?

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  • 37. At 6:18pm on 04 Jun 2008, RJMolesworth wrote:

    A serious bunch of petals Lady_Sue? Would you want them any any other way?

    Oops! I think Eric is beginning to fade.

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  • 38. At 6:23pm on 04 Jun 2008, Big Sister wrote:

    I wonder how John Humphrys and the rest of the Today team would respond if they were thus described? I like the serious journalism (really, I do!) but I also like the fun that Eric and his team engender (or put up with) amongst/from the froggers.

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  • 39. At 6:31pm on 04 Jun 2008, Fifi wrote:

    Let's face it, current affairs can be an unremittingly grim business. Today and Newsnight can be terribly po-faced; even when they try to lighten up a bit, it doesn't really come off.

    So, the fact that PM manages to treat it all with a wry grin and a twinkle in the eye is all the more welcome.

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  • 40. At 7:21pm on 04 Jun 2008, U11204129 wrote:

    Let's hear it for the update.

    Posts in serial order, White_Rat and Lady_Sue needing a lower case hyphen, a field spell check at right click, but....

    .....but....despite all the concern about paying for a p*ddle that PM has shown, I got a 404 when I sent myself to www.bbc.co.uk/bogs/pm (by mistake, of course).

    Incidently Big Sis mentioned the need for frequent water holes - otherwise older people might not be able to get out.
    This afternoon I was on a 90 minute bus journey. The last 1/2 hour was torture.

    There's too few places as we all agree. And Paula Radcliffe comfort breaks aren't on these days.

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  • 41. At 10:08pm on 04 Jun 2008, Roger_Sawyer wrote:

    Hello All...

    Escher-like Glass Box in that most of the comment is about... the Glass Box... or rather a photomontage of the Glass Box.

    I like it.

    What have you done MGL - our very own latter day Joe Klein? Your pictures make me laugh out loud.

    Anyway - the programme. I was pleased with what we got. The OECD economist was very candid about the UK's prospects... unusually so for the OECD, I thought.

    Great to have the MDC spokesman live while waiting outside the police station... that was the work of a producer, Mark, who is only with us for a few weeks. He'd been trying the number for ages and patched the call through to the studio at the final moment. 30 seconds later, the man was on air.

    Excellent stuff from Hugh and Nigel too. Added texture as well.

    I had to drop a piece about a court case involving eBay in France. We had someone up and ready to speak, but because something else went over, we had to let it go. A shame because it was an interesting story and the interviewee had some good stuff to say.

    Back in the seat on Friday... au revoir.

    Rog.

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  • 42. At 11:20pm on 04 Jun 2008, jonnie wrote:

    Excellent work mygloriousleader.

    very imaginitive.

    And the programme was also very good.

    Hugh is just astounding value, gripping descriptions.

    He loves his cafe proprietors - but which other people would know what goes on?

    Oh and the percentage man was great.

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  • 43. At 11:24pm on 04 Jun 2008, Humph wrote:

    Re the closing credits - does that mean that Eddie was today's John McCain? You know, older bloke who thinks he knows what he is on about?
    H.

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  • 44. At 11:31pm on 04 Jun 2008, jonnie wrote:

    I've just noticed that as I type this. at 23:31 all the comments prior to the 16th April have gone!

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2008/04/the_glass_box_for_wednesday_42.shtml

    Perhaps the system is still updating itself?

    I'll check in the morning.

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  • 45. At 11:31am on 05 Jun 2008, Gillianian wrote:

    Roger (41) When something like the e-Bay story has to be dropped, isn't there a way you could record the interview and do the item the following day?
    I'm sure with something of general interest it wouldn't matter if it wasn't ''hot off the presses'', especially if in your judgment ''the interviewee had some good stuff to say''.
    You all obviously thrive on the ''seats-of-the-pants'' stuff, and it's amazing how you manage to get it on air without any apparent signs of panic(at least to the listener) but it seems a pity to let a good piece go to waste.

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