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Eddie Mair | 10:19 UK time, Monday, 10 September 2007

Christopher Landau will have what I suppose amounts to part two of a series.

He'll report from the US, as a follow up to the piece we brought you last Monday. This is how we introduced it then:

"Centuries of tradition in the Anglican Communion are under threat - the balance of power is changing.

As a result of the divisions over homosexuality, African churches are finding ways of by-passing Lambeth Palace.

Officially the American Church has until the end of the month to state whether or not it will allow more gay bishops in future. But African churches are not hanging around and are trying to provide a welcome to disillusioned American Anglicans by creating African church branches inside the United States.

The Church of Uganda has just created its own new Bishop. Our reporter Christopher Landau was at the ceremony..."

and here are the pics! As I say he'll let you know how the new Bishop's getting on, tomorrow night.






  1. At 12:03 PM on 10 Sep 2007, Big Sister wrote:

    It is all rather bizarre, and could lead to some unexpected outcomes, I'd suggest.

    If anyone had predicted, a few years ago, that white Americans would become ordained as bishops in the Church of Uganda, with the intention of serving back in the USA, they probably would have been deemed mad.

    It will be interesting to see what happens when these new branches are established in America, with all the unresolved racial tensions evident in that society. And I do not predict a comfortable future for them, nor for their relationship with the established Anglican community in the US.

    This does have the whiff of desperation, imho.

  2. At 12:07 PM on 10 Sep 2007, Ewan Meebabe wrote:


    The reported reason for the schism, i.e. homosexuality/ordination, seems to contrast somewhat with Picture 4 (ugandad.jpg).

    My personal sympathy lies with those who are GAY rather than merely gay. (Archbishops please note.)

  3. At 12:18 PM on 10 Sep 2007, Tommy. wrote:

    Has anyone got a 9/16 inch 12 point box end wrench?

  4. At 12:27 PM on 10 Sep 2007, Miss Effingham wrote:

    It's a jungle out there innit.

  5. At 12:51 PM on 10 Sep 2007, mac wrote:

    ''Stead of dreamin' 'bout tomorrow
    We can live today..'

    Where's the 'How about covering xxxxxxx (whatever) on tonite's prog?' thread?

  6. At 12:55 PM on 10 Sep 2007, Vyle Hernia wrote:

    Tommy (3)

    I think I may have; 1/2" square drive. Do you want to borrow it?

    My sockets go back to Whitworth days.

    As for the Bishops, I agree with the Africans. It's a poor alternative to the anti-Biblical Americans leaving the Anglican Communion voluntarily. But you all knew that already.

  7. At 12:55 PM on 10 Sep 2007, Ewan Meebabe wrote:

    If you get the wool, my mother will make you one.

  8. At 04:18 PM on 10 Sep 2007, Natural Blonde wrote:

    Big Sis (1), I don't think anything brings people together as much as a shared prejudice...

    My favourite is how Jewish, Muslim and Christian Religious Leaders managed to hold a joint press conference in Jerusalem a few months ago calling for gay festivals to be banned in the City....

  9. At 07:18 PM on 10 Sep 2007, Dr Hackenbush wrote:

    I had not previously worked out whether it was Lando or Landale. Turns out it’s neither.

    Additionally, I have never seen the name of top reporter Nils Blythe written down, so it could easily be Bligh or other such. Which is it, oh presenter?

    I have seen the Radio 4 presenters and newsreaders’ page, but why is there not an equivalent page to check out all your many current affairs correspondents?

  10. At 07:35 PM on 10 Sep 2007, Big Sister wrote:

    Natural Blonde: You may be right! It could well be that there may be a case of the Law of Unintended Consequences about to emerge.

    Frankly, I find it very 'unChristian' to continue to pursue prejudices (well, I mean bigotry) of this kind in this way. I despair, I really do.

  11. At 08:35 PM on 10 Sep 2007, mittfh wrote:

    Hmm...anyone else noticed the irony in the fact the ceremony was performed under the canopy of a UNHCR tent?

    I suppose they would consider themselves refugees (fleeing a Church that has become too liberal for their taste), but I doubt their interpretation would be the same as the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees...

  12. At 09:51 PM on 10 Sep 2007, Aperitif wrote:

    Tommy (3), I'm pretty sure many people have.

  13. At 12:28 PM on 11 Sep 2007, Steve Parish wrote:

    Of course the fascinating thing is that the first Lambeth Conference came after a dispute over how Christian bishops should deal with polygamous Zulus (i.e. whether they should put away extra wives when they converted). Bishop Colonso said no, and we ended up with two rival bishops of Natal.

    So the first Lambeth Conference happened after a dispute over biblical theology and sexual ethics. After 140 years, plus ca change...

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