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Eddie Mair | 07:12 UK time, Friday, 6 July 2007

What is the Beach?

It’s a place to go when the stresses of your real life need relieving. Sometimes it is fairly quiet and you might feel like you’re the only one around, but you can leave your ‘footprints’ for others to find later on. Othertimes it is the home for a real party, with constant gossip, leg-pulling, rumour, innuendo, chit-chat and weirdness.

If this were a forum (and it sort of is because we post responses to each other, not just to Eddie, hence our term for ourselves 'Froggers', a combination of forum and blogger) then the beach would be the off-topic area.
It's a tropical location, no matter the time of year it's always warm and pleasant there.

Sunrises and sunsets are spectacular, the evenings balmy. It has a number of different locations; the Nick Clarke waterfront bar; the smokers corner; Fido's Run for the dog-walkers; the Naughty Step and many others.
How do you find your way around? There is no direct answer to the question.

The beach is a moveable feast, literally. It will be renewed by our Lord and master Mr. Edward de Mair each Friday morning. This is because we have found in the past that when the number of posts exceeds about 600 the entire thing becomes unwieldy and unstable. A case of the beach turning to quicksand.

Froggers often leave bottles / glasses / trays of their favourite tipple on the bar for others to sample, not to mention big / small eats.

There is a herd of camels who frequent the sands, which froggers are very fond of. There are sun-loungers, so you can take it easy and catch some rays. Quite often the late-night attendees will have a barbie.
It's a fun place, with only one real rule; Be nice to each other; we are ALL chums here. New Froggers are ALWAYS welcome.

The real debate happens on the other threads. The beach is a place for banter, whimsy, relaxation and friendship, where jarring comments are not particularly welcome. There are certain very mild protocols, which you tend to pick up as you go along. So slip your shoes off, feel the sand between your toes, relax and enjoy yourself.


  1. At 07:16 AM on 06 Jul 2007, DI Wyman wrote:

    Oh a new beach for my birtday....wot a wonderful present...!

    53 today and never been kissed. Coffee and doughnuts on the bar for you to enjoy. Gillian is baking me a Victoria sponge with raspberry jam filling and dusted with icing sugar...feel free to have a slice...

  2. At 08:29 AM on 06 Jul 2007, Fearless Fred wrote:

    Happy Birthday DI! I've brewed some Jamaican Blue Mountain, so feel free to have a mug...

  3. At 08:33 AM on 06 Jul 2007, Anne P. wrote:

    Thanks DI, and Happy Birthday!

  4. At 08:54 AM on 06 Jul 2007, Gillian wrote:

    Happy Birthday, DIWyman. Hope you have a lovely day.

    Here's your birthday cake......I've been up since the crack of dawn making this sponge, to make sure it was big enough to feed all the froggers.
    The Young Macallan helped me bring it to the NC Bar. These candles weigh a ton!

    Congratulations to Izzy T'me.....a fantastic achievement!
    Also congrats to my Big Un who has a 2:1. Of course she takes after her mother ;o)

  5. At 08:58 AM on 06 Jul 2007, Peej wrote:

    Morning all. Those hot whiskeys worked a treat, I don't know which pains are from my man-flu and which are from the hangover. By the way RJD I had to make do with Jamison's instead of Bushmills, but I suppose that's what we seasoned travellers call roughing it.

  6. At 09:02 AM on 06 Jul 2007, Peej wrote:

    Many Happy Returns DI. Have a good one.

  7. At 09:14 AM on 06 Jul 2007, DI Wyman wrote:

    Thanks FF...i caught the aroma on the breeze!

  8. At 09:49 AM on 06 Jul 2007, Stewart M wrote:

    Happy birthday DI. Where have you nevewr been kissed?

    20 year old vintage port being decanted now, should besettled for tea time.

  9. At 10:24 AM on 06 Jul 2007, DI Wyman wrote:

    DONT LIGHT THE CANDLES.......i will only get the blame for global warming!

    Thanks for all your best wishes and Gillian for your early morn' baking!!

    yum yum...

    Stewart M (8)...a lady never tells, but it was Weston Super M in 1975

    looking forward to Port and crumpet at tea time!!

  10. At 10:45 AM on 06 Jul 2007, Anne P. wrote:

    Lovely cake, Gillian, and many congrats to eldest on her 2:1.

  11. At 10:52 AM on 06 Jul 2007, Mr Snow wrote:

    Happy birthday DI

    I'm not as clever as the rest of you smarty-pants. I only got a 2:2 from Southampton. It is lovely and pink and frilly and looks really quite fetching on!

  12. At 10:59 AM on 06 Jul 2007, Ed Iglehart wrote:

    Congrats to Gillian's BigUn, and specially to Izzy!!!

    Comisserations to Peej happy birthday suit to DIY, and thanks to FF and Gill and Stewart for the comestibles....

    Cloud and Scotch mist one minute, bright sun the next. Luvvvly! Perfect weather for transplanting, etc.


  13. At 11:18 AM on 06 Jul 2007, Mr Snow wrote:

    I shall try this again as the last time I posted it (20 min ago) it never appeared. Have I been moderated just for wishing DI a happy birthday and mentioning that unlike all you smarty-pants out there with your firsts I only got a 2:2 from Southampton. It was a lovely pink colour and looked wonderful on!

  14. At 11:42 AM on 06 Jul 2007, RJD wrote:

    Mr Snow - You are in good company with your degree - I also got an Archbishop Desmond!

  15. At 11:55 AM on 06 Jul 2007, Simon Worrall wrote:

    Congratulations to Izzy and Gillian's BigUn.


  16. At 12:43 PM on 06 Jul 2007, Anne P. wrote:

    Lots of us with ballet gear then.

    Really must go and get a life in July before the virtual world takes over entirely.

    Meanwhile do try some of these wraps with organic, dried tomato humus and fresh garden salad.

  17. At 01:05 PM on 06 Jul 2007, witchiwoman wrote:

    Flying visit - congrats to all and Happy Birthday DI!

    Am goin back to swear a bit more in July x

  18. At 01:46 PM on 06 Jul 2007, Gillian wrote:

    Just preparing DI's birthday party.....the George Melly tribute band has been booked, and a few kegs of Jason's self-chilling Ale are on the way.
    Peej and RJD, there's Bushmills behind the bar, and a crate of Liffey Water for Ed I. Fifi, there's a Shiraz....Anne P. I've still got some Sloe Gin left for us. (Lovely wraps, Anne, thank you.) Izzy, there's more champagne in the fridge, and Vodka for Ffred. G and T for jonnie.... Now it's not too late for the rest of you to put your requests in......

  19. At 02:10 PM on 06 Jul 2007, Stewart M wrote:

    DI Y, I Have a recipe somewhere for home made crumpet. Will hunt it out. Might not be able to have them ready for today's tea as I have a school summer fair to attend.
    Real crumpet (i.e. home made) are always the best.

  20. At 02:21 PM on 06 Jul 2007, Frances O wrote:

    Happy Birthday, DI1 Come 'ere. Mwwwwwwwwa!

    Gillian - congrats to your eldest. 2:1 pretty good indeed. I got a Chinese Princess, too.

    Mr S - can we have a flickery pic, please?

    I'm on peppermint tea at the moment, just finished a decent-sized lunch and I want to squeeze in some of that gorgeous cake before it all goes.

    What a good start to the new Beach!

  21. At 02:22 PM on 06 Jul 2007, Frances O wrote:

    Happy Birthday, DI. Come 'ere. Mwwwwwwwwa!

    Gillian - congrats to your eldest. 2:1 pretty good indeed. I got a Chinese Princess, too.

    Mr S - can we have a flickery pic, please?

    I'm on peppermint tea at the moment, just finished a decent-sized lunch and I want to squeeze in some of that gorgeous cake before it all goes.

    What a good start to the new Beach!

    PS: that was very unmalicious. Even kissing DI was unmalicious.

  22. At 02:48 PM on 06 Jul 2007, Aperitif wrote:

    Happy birthday DIY!

  23. At 02:54 PM on 06 Jul 2007, Selkius piscinus wrote:

    Hoppy birdie, DIYMan, and many hippo returns.

  24. At 03:29 PM on 06 Jul 2007, DI Wyman wrote:

    woooahh...crumpet has turned up....we will be in my tent.....!!

  25. At 04:13 PM on 06 Jul 2007, Frances O wrote:

    Pitch it on the naughty step, DI. That'll save you the journey.

  26. At 05:52 PM on 06 Jul 2007, nikki noodle wrote:

    Many happy returns DI W!!!

    and well done IZZY !!! congrats too to both the Molly and the Gillian O minors!!

    look out froggers, here comes the weekend: weeeeeeee!!!!


  27. At 05:56 PM on 06 Jul 2007, DI Wyman wrote:

    ...right.....Ok......calm down....crumpet has now gone for fish 'n chips (well it is Friday)..so while I wipe all this lipstick off....lets all sing happy Birthday 2 DIY....after me...1.....2......3.....

    Nappy Birfday....

    ...BTW anyone got any vinegar?.....

  28. At 06:44 PM on 06 Jul 2007, J Watchman wrote:

    The beach...

    1. New suburb of Sheffield. Anybody got an Ark?

    2. Putting the sand into sandwiches.

    3. Proving I can't spell the names of trees.

  29. At 06:58 PM on 06 Jul 2007, madmary wrote:

    Happy Birthday DI.

    And congrats to Aperitif for being read out on the programme tonight! You were a tax person?


  30. At 07:13 PM on 06 Jul 2007, DI Wyman wrote:

    .....sorry peeps...so ingrossed with all my fun..that i have forgotten to say congrats to IZZY and the Molly & Gillian offspring...well done all..
    ...in fact well done to all of you that have got 1/2's, 2/1's, 3/4's, 7/8's...or what ever!!

    ...has anyone got a blow up sheep......?

    ...dont ask....it's a Shropshire thingy....party on.....!!

  31. At 07:24 PM on 06 Jul 2007, Fifi wrote:

    Congrats Anne P and Appy for being read out. I heard you in the car on my way back from deepest Northamptonshire!
    Congrats Gillian's big un for a great result.
    Congrats DIY and a big * x * for your burpday.
    Congrats Izzy ... I think I may have to check the old Beach to find out exactly why, but I remember your exams so I think I can guess!

    Spent a loooong day chairing difficult meetings today ... well, actually, chairing difficult people in meetings ... well, actually, chairing one difficult person in several meetings. But in a worthwhile cause.

    Finally slumping in a nice comfy hammock, with a delicious g&t ... I feel as if I've earned it.

    Last night SO and I explored our abilities to make music with an accordion, piano and electric keyboard ... finally ended up back with the guitar as usual. Ho hum!

    If anyone has long fingers (or just big hands generally) I am happy to show them how the accordion works .. I understand it but just can't REACH!!!

    Fifi xx

  32. At 07:38 PM on 06 Jul 2007, Fifi wrote:

    Ooh, Izzy, a FIRST!!!! What a clever and hardworking person you are. Well, well done. You must be drowning in champers by now ... wonderful way to go.

    Fearless ... well, I did wonder if it was you. A warm spot, under the right circs, can be a lovely place to roll into, so thank you for that. We'll miss you while you're away. ;o)

    Wonko ... glad to help soothe your angst. You may now do the same for me after my long day of meetings, for which I'm not even paid!

    * Fifi leans her furrowed brow towards Wonko for soothing *

    * Wonko, being out with Mrs Wonko at the time, doesn't soothe *

    * Fifi leans her furrowed brow towards any available frogger, being a complete tart in the soothing department right now.... *

    Fifi ;oD

  33. At 07:50 PM on 06 Jul 2007, Humph wrote:

    The trouble with occasional visits to the Beach is that you have so much to catch up upon. So:

    DIY - Hippy burbday
    Gillian jnr - Way to go with the 2:1
    Izzy - Double way to go with the half - ie 1!
    Many - Hey, I got a 2:2 too!

    If I have missed anything that I should have cheered whilst speed reading blame it on the speeding!


    By the way, DI (30), if you are looking for blow up sheep, I have a contact in al-Blaahedah who may be able to help. ;-)

  34. At 08:28 PM on 06 Jul 2007, anth wrote:

    Well done to all on exams and readings out (the only bit of PM I caught, and at the time thought that Aperitif will be on Cloud 9 this evening); happy birthdays etc to those having them (the date of mine is a state secret, I'll happily admit to an age greater than mine, as I accidently did last week).

    Fifi, my one and only experience with a piano accordion was to wheeze out the Captain Pugwash theme very slowly (unused to the button scheme for the left hand). But that was better than what the owner could do (why did he buy the thing?). I do rather better with a harmonium.

    Limped the car home this evening with string and sealing wax (well, a little more substancial than that) solution. (Was underneath for most of PM). Consequently I ache in odd places, so if you don't mind I'll recharge my glass and slump out in a hammock to recover. I was proud of my record of always getting the car home whatever happened to it, until this car, when twice now I've had to get the call-out guys in - damned if I'm going to give the car third time lucky.

  35. At 11:43 PM on 06 Jul 2007, Gossipmistress wrote:

    DIY! Happy Birthday! I'm writing this quick before it's no longer your birthday... I'll read the rest of the thread in a minute! (Phew!)

    Hope you had a lovely dayxx

  36. At 11:58 PM on 06 Jul 2007, mittfh wrote:

    Aha - so this week's beach has opened! I missed it earlier!

    Anyway, down to business, and a free drink for DI Wyman...

    And as it's now nearly midnight I'll log off (been spending all evening discovering the delights of Facebook - feel free to visit)

  37. At 12:03 AM on 07 Jul 2007, Molly wrote:

    Phew! H-h-hope I'm not too late to say
    HAPPY BIRTHDAY to you,, dear DI W!
    Can you believe- I've ben paddling around on the old beach- messages for Izzy, etcm thinking ''how quiet - where is everyone...''
    anyway i'm here now so hope everyone's ready to party till.....whenever!
    Loads of bubbly at the NC- toast to all the good things-CHEERS!


  38. At 12:11 AM on 07 Jul 2007, Aperitif wrote:

    Mary (29), Yep. It was mostly soul destroying. My comment was gently censored actually, for which I suppose I am grateful -- I was feeling grumpy when I wrote it.

    Been on the cocktails tonight so am likely to make even less sense than usual. Gin Fizz anyone?

  39. At 08:40 AM on 07 Jul 2007, mittfh wrote:

    Morning all! If this is still #39 by the time you read it, it will be the first post of the morning.

    I've brought along some bacon, eggs, sausage, mushrooms and tomatoes in case anyone wants to cook up a full english.

  40. At 09:12 AM on 07 Jul 2007, Ed Iglehart wrote:

    Mornin all!

    Off to post about an outrage on the Brow!

    Bright sunshine herand enjoying breakfast. Thanks Mittfh. I already have firefox and adblock, but resent the popup flash thingys and can't be bothered to set up the *wildcard* block.


  41. At 11:07 AM on 07 Jul 2007, Aperitif wrote:

    Gosh, isn't it quiet this morning?

  42. At 11:30 AM on 07 Jul 2007, Stewart M wrote:

    Sun Shining here in Bradfrog. I won't fall into song though!. How'e everyones heads after last nights party.

    For the record I have a First and a PhD.

    I saw the light re acadaemia and left though!

    If the yellow thing stays in the sky I may get the BBQ going. Can I take orders now.

    Any one wanting to join me in a pedalo time trial?

  43. At 11:56 AM on 07 Jul 2007, Ed Iglehart wrote:

    And, regarding windfarms, the advert from E.ON has an interesting soundtrack - I think it's my mate Rory McLeod! How's that for irony?


  44. At 12:40 PM on 07 Jul 2007, Stewart M wrote:

    Mmmm, I have started to try and set up this twitter thingy. Not sure if its a good idea or not.

    But does seem quiet appy, Should we start lunch?

  45. At 12:44 PM on 07 Jul 2007, nikki noodle wrote:

    It's 12:34 so that's alright then!

    ...not any more it isn,t - just went to paddle and dip my toes!

    A time trial? Let's also have a "first one out to the reef, round the flat rock, and back" race!!!! Extra points for 'flair', 'holding a cocktail whilst pedalowing (sp?)' , ' rendering all the verses of the hedgehog song!' and possibly 'freestyle OR backstroke'....


  46. At 12:56 PM on 07 Jul 2007, Fifi wrote:

    There's that strange bright orb again. I am uneasy. What should I do?


  47. At 01:30 PM on 07 Jul 2007, anth wrote:

    n-n (45)

    and extra points for imitations of English Cricketers, for style, inebriation, golden ducks etc...

    Is it malacious to be rude about cricket?

  48. At 02:11 PM on 07 Jul 2007, Ed Iglehart wrote:

    "I saw the light re acadaemia and left though!"

    As did my hero.

  49. At 02:49 PM on 07 Jul 2007, Frances O wrote:

    Hello, dear beachfroggers!

    I heard a saying yesterday which I can neither attribute nor quote exactly; maybe you can. But here's the gist of it:

    The change that you want to make in the world you must make in yourself.

    I'm trying to do this in my usual good-natured but not always successful way, but it's a good goal to aim for.

    Not sure about the 'must' - not a word I'm fond of if it's not necessary.

  50. At 02:59 PM on 07 Jul 2007, Fifi wrote:

    I'm nettled.

    Right shin; got me while I was picking up mixed hedge trimmings.

    Serves me right for going gardening in shorts I suppose.

    I've brewed up for everyone .. help yourselves to decaff tea or coffee.


    ... I'm nettled but NOT malicious!!!

  51. At 03:19 PM on 07 Jul 2007, Ed Iglehart wrote:


    It's Gandhi:

    You must be the change you wish to see in the world.
    -- Mahatma Gandhi


  52. At 03:20 PM on 07 Jul 2007, Ed Iglehart wrote:

    And, echoing Mohandas in his usually wordy way, Wendell:

    "A change of heart or of values without a practice is only another pointless luxury of a passively consumptive way of life."

    -- Wendell Berry in "The Idea of a Local Economy"

    Wanna bet it's maliciously quick?

  53. At 04:09 PM on 07 Jul 2007, Fifi wrote:

    I will be absent from the Beach this evening, as we are enjoying a supper and singing with some ME sufferers.

    So, I have left a selection of nibbles on the bar for the evening's festivities: nachos, tortillas, crisps, nuts (warning: these may contain nuts) and a whopping selection of crackers and cheeses.


    Fifi ;o)

  54. At 05:06 PM on 07 Jul 2007, Gossipmistress wrote:

    Well I've just been singing at a wedding and I see I've missed the best of the Pedalo Olympics! Stewart M has won gold in the slalom (around the camels, who were treading water) and anth won a bronze in the freestyle. If it hadn't been for toppling over during that 'wheelie' at the end it'd have been a gold!

    Unfortunately Nicki Noodle was disqualified for holding a cocktail in an innappropriate place....

    The wedding we sang at was hilarious. Mrs Overall was playing the organ and we had the 'Status Quo' version of Wagner's wedding March - with only 2 chords underneath - and a bargain free extra verse in one of the hymns, which she ploughed her way through (with chorus) despite the fact that no-one was singing any longer.

    One piece we were singing had 6 flats (= lots of black notes!) most of which she chose to ignore, leaving us singing semitone clashes more reminiscent of Shoenberg than Rutter, and she added several trick extra beats to our last piece, just to see if we were listening.

    I spent the whole thing trying desperately not to catch the conductors eye as his shoulders were shaking with laughter (lucky him - he had his back to the bride & groom!) and I was about to corpse!

    Anyone for Pimms? The sun's almost out so it must be time for it....

  55. At 09:29 PM on 07 Jul 2007, Frances O wrote:

    Well! Looks like it's a musical evening for Gossipmrs and Fifi. Anyone fancy a sing-song?

    EdI, thanks. Why doesn't it surprise me that

    a) It was Gandhi and

    b) You knew


    I've just met some very agreeable people and had a good talk, so am set up for a quiet but happy evening. In July, that is. But while I'm here, and in honour of two days without rain (!!!) here's a jug of Sangria, one of home-made lemonade, and some salads. Should go well with Fifi's nibbles.

  56. At 09:34 PM on 07 Jul 2007, Aperitif wrote:

    Oh but it sounds such fun Mistress (54)! I'll talk one of those Pimms, cheers!

    Stewart (44), Sorry I wandered off before lunch, thinking no one was around. Supper? Whaddaya fancy?

  57. At 09:46 PM on 07 Jul 2007, Gossipmistress wrote:

    Oh Appy I do wish you hadn't mentioned supper!
    I'm supposed to be learning music for tomorrow so haven't been to the shops. In the fridge - salmon fillets, green beans, the end of a tub of mascarpone, 3 kiwi fruit & several physallis. There's plenty of wine, olive oil, rice & dried pasta. Any ideas on how to combine them into something nutritious & delicious?

    The music I'm sposed to be learning is by William Orbit and is a wordless chorus to his first orchestral suite. He apparently wrote it on a keyboard and got someone to transcribe it which means that some bits are practically unsingable.
    The concert is tomorrow.....

    Od s*d it anyone for another Pimms? And a race around the beach en camel?

  58. At 09:55 PM on 07 Jul 2007, nikki noodle wrote:

    I'm always up for a sing song...!!!

    And while I'm about it, I'd like to see GM about the photo finish of the Pedalo Olympics - disqualified? moi?!! where else can you hold a cocktail in a pedalo?!??!?!! What a giggle your wedding sounds!

    I think thats one of my fav quotes, Frances O, and its bloomin tricky to begin, but prob worth the effort, pass the nuts and nachos, ta! (thanks fifi).

    On another note (A sharp, if you must), (or B flat, it comes to very much the same thing), its nice when people visit, but isn't oh so nice when they go!?


    the camp town ladies sing this song,
    do da
    do da
    tum ti tum ti five miles long,
    oh do da day!

    *deep intake of breath*



  59. At 08:06 AM on 08 Jul 2007, Ed Iglehart wrote:

    Happy sunny Sunday, Froggers!

    Off to get the bacon frying with a few mushrooms I just found in the wee copse of birches.

    Anyone fancy a few slices of boletes, small but delicious?


    And that was deemed malicious. I ask you!

  60. At 08:44 AM on 08 Jul 2007, Anne P. wrote:

    All quiet on the western front. I'll just tiptoe past these sleeping beauties. Looks like pedalo racing, singing and t-shirt printing has worn them all out. Someone's snoring pretty loudly mind you.

    I'll leave this freshly squeezed juice on the bar and head back to July where I can still see some of the blue sky that was showing when I got up. Lots of mare's tails though now.

    "Mackerel skies and mares' tails make tall ships carry small sails."

  61. At 10:26 AM on 08 Jul 2007, Aperitif wrote:

    Mistrees (57), That sounds like a fab supper just all thrown in together! Hope you enjoyed it. Ooh look, freshly squeezed OJ, yummy! Thanks, Anne!

  62. At 10:47 AM on 08 Jul 2007, RJD wrote:

    Ed I & Anne P - Thanks for the breakfast.

    I'm off on holidays now, so I'll see you and the rest of the froggers in a couple of weeks. Rest assured that as I go to foreign climes, the weather will improve here. Au revoir.

  63. At 10:57 AM on 08 Jul 2007, Frances O wrote:

    (sings) "Camptown racetrack five miles long..."

    Hello, nikki! my beloved Dad (died when I was 23) used to sing that).

    Gossy, what did you rustle up from the fridge?

    I thought:

    1. Salmon with a mascarpone sauce (got any dill?) and beans on a bed of lightly seasoned rice

    2. Pasta with a creamy salmon sauce. Oh! It's not lunchtime yet and the thought of this makes me peckish. Can't pig out - going to a party this afternoon.

  64. At 12:17 PM on 08 Jul 2007, Gossipmistress wrote:

    Happy Hols RJD!

    Thank you for the orange juice Anne P - very welcome! I think the 3 sleeping beauties you mention may me N-N and 2 of the stewards, after they questioned his carriage of a cocktail.. Well lets's hope it was all resolved peacefully!

    Thank you for all the Ready-steady-cook suggestions. I managed a piece of toast! Maybe tomorrow..

    Am off to Manchester to sing 'Ooh' and 'Ah' (hopefully in the right places) in the Bridgewater Hall. Anyone barbecueing later? Have a good party Frances!

  65. At 01:13 PM on 08 Jul 2007, Selkius piscinus wrote:

    The weather is certain to improve in July, if RJD and I are *both* leaving the country. I'm off to Finland shortly, by sea, and I'll be back at the end of the month or a little sooner.

    I wonder what the local bouzo is like in those places I can't even spell let alone say right. I'll try to bring some back so everyone can try it.


  66. At 01:34 PM on 08 Jul 2007, Anne P. wrote:

    Happy hols RJD and fishy Chris.

  67. At 02:54 PM on 08 Jul 2007, Fifi wrote:

    We are back at last after a very late and hugely enjoyable night's singing. And a Moroccan concoction of lamb, chickpeas and couscous that melted in the mouth with so many flavours ... mmmmmm!

    There was a tiny bit left, and I was going to ask our hostess if I could save it in a container to bring to the Beach. And then her brother found he could manage 'a tiny bit' more and it was gone!

    I see all last night's nibbles have gone then? And is it my imagination or are the camels drying off over there by the palm trees? I didn't know they could swim?

    Fifi xx

  68. At 05:07 PM on 08 Jul 2007, Fifi wrote:

    Oooh, all alone with this huge-screen TV watching the men's final at Wimbers.

    Rat-face isn't as pretty as Swiss Tony but I still want him to win. Such a trier.

    Come on Tim!

    Fifi ;o)

  69. At 05:25 PM on 08 Jul 2007, Pomsaffie wrote:

    I'm a beach virgin... this is the very first time I've sunk my bare toes into the warm, white sand of this Beach - please be gentle... ;-)

    I'm just gonna sit here for a while and look out for dolphins. They come out and surf at this time of the evening.


  70. At 05:51 PM on 08 Jul 2007, Fifi wrote:

    Welcome Pomsaffie. What a lovely name!

    The natives on this Beach are very friendly and I'm sure you will love it.

    We've had reindeer here before, strangely enough, but not dolphins. You bring dolphins and you will be one popular frogger around here!

    I have brought some alcohol-free g&t as an experiment, and a juicy lemon to go in it. Shall we try it while you watch the waves and I watch the game?

    Fifi xx

  71. At 06:01 PM on 08 Jul 2007, Ed Iglehart wrote:


    Welcome to the beach! Have a guinness on me, or help yourself to whatever's on the bar at the Nick Clarke Memorial.

    I'm sure some comestibles will turn up.


  72. At 06:02 PM on 08 Jul 2007, Fifi wrote:

    Wow. End of match. Rat-face didn't quite make it. Never mind - he did make Swiss Tony work hard for it.

    Now, any sign of those dolphins? Would it be ecologically inappropriate to swim with them, do you think?

    Fifi ;o)

  73. At 06:06 PM on 08 Jul 2007, Aperitif wrote:

    Welcome Pomsaffie (69), Would you like a beer whilst you watch the waves? Or indeed a cocktail of some sort? Pull up a longer and enjoy.

    RJD, Mr Fish, happy hols. You're not going together are you?

    What could possibly be malicious about that???

  74. At 06:18 PM on 08 Jul 2007, Aperitif wrote:

    Ah Feefs (71), Nothing is ecologically inappropriate on this beach! Whatever we do has no impact whatsoever on the environment -- it's a joy!

  75. At 06:34 PM on 08 Jul 2007, Fifi wrote:

    Daisy T Cat has joined us on the Beach this evening. Sitting next to me on the sofa, purring rather pointedly in a way that indicates at least one of my typing hands should be occupied under her chin!

    I'm making chicken soup, and later some vegetarian-friendly soup, this evening. Nice light eating for a summer's evening.

    Do tuck in...


  76. At 06:49 PM on 08 Jul 2007, Gillian wrote:

    Welcome Pomsaffie.
    I'm just back from a weekend where SO and I felt like we were entrenched inside the pages of the D**ly M**l newspaper.
    My tongue is so sore from being bitten, in the interests of family harmony, that all I can do is lie here sucking ice-cubes til both tongue and sanity are restored to normal.
    Thank goodness for warm sun, soft sand and Sangria.
    Do join me if you can!

    Aaaahhhh...feeling better already!

  77. At 07:11 PM on 08 Jul 2007, stewart m wrote:

    Evening all. I've recovered from the pedalo races. The 208 km or whatever it was today has tired me out. Mind you should now see me thighs!

    Just sorted another quick and easy tea. Pork fillet. 1cm thick slices. Dust with flour and fry in butter for 2 mins, turning often. Add 6 fluid Oz dry white wine and cover abd simmer for 5mins. Seaon and reduce gravy down a bit. Served with mash.
    Now got to get eldest daughter out of shower, At almost 7 she now likes a shower instead of a bath some days, But not sure its better for environment. I think she has a bath and a half of water during her shower. Try as I might she won't speed up.

  78. At 07:15 PM on 08 Jul 2007, Fifi wrote:

    Oh Gillian ... argh. Know exactly what you mean!!! Your tongue will heal, and your family relationships are worth a bit of scar tissue. In the long run. * hug *

    Look, Appy has brought some lovely cocktails (all freshly made) and ... has this been made clear? ... nothing one imbibes on the Beach ever seems to affect the liver or the head the next day. It's almost incredible!

    While it's still so warm this evening, I'm going to throw caution to the winds and try swimming with those dolphins. The camels are back treading water again (clearly enjoyed it during the pedalo Olympics last night) and it looks like fun.

    Nobody hide my clothes before I get back.....!


  79. At 07:41 PM on 08 Jul 2007, nikki noodle wrote:

    Greetings froggers! and especially welcome pomsaffie!

    I'm sure fifi is correct about the incredible effect of her liver, or have I got that mixed up with Ed I's breakfast bacon this morning?!!!

    'Scuse me for a wee mo, I think I just need to lie in a hammock, and rest my weary little eyeballs....

    [too much light, you know!]


  80. At 07:54 PM on 08 Jul 2007, Humph wrote:

    n-n (79) that hammock looks a bit too big for one person. Do you mind if I join you for a brief bit of "end of the evening" rays:



  81. At 08:04 PM on 08 Jul 2007, Fifi wrote:

    Nice hammock, n-n. ;o)


  82. At 08:15 PM on 08 Jul 2007, Peej wrote:

    Do you know that I'm such a lucky frogger? I have 2 teenage daughters and they are a joy! They've been such good company today, I even enjoyed taking number 1 daughter for a driving lesson first thing this morning. How weird is that? I've had a lovely sunday and have just come down to round off a great day by seeing if I can spot any of Pomsaffie's dolphins outlined against the setting sun, whilst enjoying a rather cheeky shiraz. Help yourselves.

  83. At 08:36 PM on 08 Jul 2007, Fifi wrote:

    Mmm, Peej, gorgeous shiraz! xxx

    Third dolphin from the left looks a bit like Boris Johnson though. Mind you, the camel on the far right reminds me of Clare Short, so what do I know?

    I have made chicken soup and non-meat soup in July ... both currently cooling before I dare put them in the fridge. I could siphon off the odd bowl-ful for froggers ahead of time though?

    Fifi ;o)

  84. At 08:44 PM on 08 Jul 2007, Fifi wrote:

    Peej (82) : Sounds like someone is slipping something in your tea.

    Please, may I have some of it???

    Although, saying that, I had an unusually euphoric weekend too.

    Something in the water, then, maybe?

    Fifi xxx

  85. At 08:52 PM on 08 Jul 2007, Peej wrote:

    oh go on - put the chicken soup back on the heat for a bit. Don't suppose you'd have a bit of melba toast on you?

  86. At 08:54 PM on 08 Jul 2007, Aperitif wrote:

    Evening all,

    Mind if I pull up a hammock too? Tiring but pleasant day behind me -- have begun the househunt all over again, after last month's debacle. No rush to get out of my temporary home, thankfully. But blimey it's a buyer's market innit? So many For Sale signs. Think I'll just lie here a flick through the details, translating as I go.

    I've left some Amaretto on the bar and a BIG bucket of ice (Gillian, it might help to soothe your tongue!) Do enjoy.

    A, x.

  87. At 08:55 PM on 08 Jul 2007, nikki noodle wrote:

    tee hee!! just trying to imagine a dolphin in a blond untidy wig!! (83).

    plenty of room humph

    Appy, are you doing cocktails again tonight?!! And "happy hols" to all those who are shoving off for a break or two!!

    ...and fifi, just *when* are you going to notice that (ahem) somebody buried your clothes?!

    [wasnt me! humph can vouch for that : he's in the hammock too!!]


  88. At 09:20 PM on 08 Jul 2007, Aperitif wrote:

    Absolutely Mr Noodle (85), I'll start with an Amaretto Sour if you like? Or what about a Sloe Gin Fizz? I'll just leave all this house stuff in the hammock for now. Who else fancies something from the menu?

  89. At 10:16 PM on 08 Jul 2007, nikki noodle wrote:

    Cheers, Appy!!

    I seem to remember (but oh so vaguely!) that the last time I selected a couple of cocktails from the menu, I ended up mixing my singapore skiff, a chinese junk and a fully rigged tall ship, with a manhatten longboat, (or was it the life raft?),

    anyway, I drifted off very comfortably on the breeze......


    [PS simply cos I can't hold it in any longer, less than 2 hours to go til My Birthday!!!!!!!]
    tee hee!!

  90. At 10:58 PM on 08 Jul 2007, Stewart M wrote:

    Come on then NN. What are you doing for your birthday? Have you got a selection of malts for us to start off with? Or are you sticking to cocktails in the pedalo?

  91. At 11:03 PM on 08 Jul 2007, Aperitif wrote:

    Happy nearly Birthday N-N!

    D'you think Eric knows that Tony Bennett is on TV just now?

  92. At 11:16 PM on 08 Jul 2007, Fifi wrote:

    * arrives on beach from sea *

    "Oh, no!"

    * hides behind rock *

    " Where's my clothes? "

    * frantically looks to left right and all around *

    " eeeeeek! "

    * triumphantly wheehs partable kaftan out of secret compartment and dons it in one seamless movement *


    fifi xx

  93. At 11:24 PM on 08 Jul 2007, Fifi wrote:

    N-n : Happy burpday!!!!

    ( in the full expectation that it'll take considerably longer than 40 minutes for this to appear.... )



    Fifi ;o)

  94. At 11:36 PM on 08 Jul 2007, Fifi wrote:

    I'm just enjoying a Long Slow Screw... oh, so seventies! ... but strangely tasty nonetheless!


  95. At 08:54 AM on 09 Jul 2007, Humph wrote:

    Happy b-d n-n


  96. At 09:17 AM on 09 Jul 2007, Peej wrote:

    Happy birthday N-N! Have a good one.

    Fifi - I hope you realise I didn't get much sleep last night for wondering where your secret compartment is,

  97. At 09:23 AM on 09 Jul 2007, witchiwoman wrote:

    * wave and shouted hello from behind dunes* (hoping to catch up soon....)

  98. At 09:53 AM on 09 Jul 2007, Stewart M wrote:

    fifi (92). We do not want to know about your "secret" compartment ;-o. Not sure if its me or you that should be off to the corner.

    I'm about to froth some milk for the Cappucinos. I'm on double Expressos already.

  99. At 10:26 AM on 09 Jul 2007, Gillian wrote:

    Mmmmmm...just in time for a cappucino. Thanks, Stewart.
    Happy Birthday, n-n. Hope you have some treats lined up for yourself today....more cocktails, by any chance?

    Here's your cake, n-n.....a pyramid of rum babas, held together with whipped cream.


  100. At 10:44 AM on 09 Jul 2007, Gillian wrote:

    Those moderators are sooooooo naughty - they've taken half of Nicky Noodle's cake for their elevenses.....or was it the camels? ;o)

  101. At 11:12 AM on 09 Jul 2007, Wonko wrote:

    Morning All!

    Well, that was a very pleasant and enjoyable weekend back in July. After the Hampton Court Flower Show (which was lovely in a floral kind of way), Mrs Wonko and I made the best of the nice weather and spent most of the weekend in our garden. Pottering mostly.

    And what a lot I have to catch up on. Sorry to miss the peddalos, could be one of the few sports left where we have a British World Champion. Congratulations to all those of a Birthday or Degree celebration nature who I've missed.

    A warm belated welcome to Pomsaffie. If you enjoy a drop of Single Malt I'm your man!

    Feefs - is too late to offer you a "there, there, never you mind"?

    Shortbread anyone?

    ;o) []

  102. At 12:52 PM on 09 Jul 2007, Wonko wrote:


  103. At 01:47 PM on 09 Jul 2007, Pink Pyjamas wrote:

    I wear my pink pyjamas in the summer when it's hot.
    I wear my flannel nightie in the winter when it's not.
    And sometimes in the springtime and sometimes in the fall.
    I jump into my little bed with nothing on at all.

  104. At 02:04 PM on 09 Jul 2007, Frances O wrote:

    Hurray for me! I am very brave.

    I've just chased a wasp out of the door.

    I hate wasps. *

    * I went to a great birthday party yesterday afternoon. We enjoyed the fabulous food. The wasps seemed pretty interested, too. First I've seen this summer.

  105. At 02:15 PM on 09 Jul 2007, Izzy T'Me wrote:

    Thank you all soooo much for your very kind words and congratulations - feeling all warm and gooey having read them!

    I'm walking around a little carefully this morning, having been enjoying all that proffered champers over the weekend - please don't make any sudden movements!

    As Humph said, occasional visits do rather mean that catching up is difficult, but here goes:

    Congrats to Gillian and Molly's "big 'uns"
    Hippo birdies to DIWhy and n-n
    Soothing frugs to Gillian, Feefs, Appy (and anyone else, I've missed)
    A wave back at Wichi
    A welcome to Poms
    Sorry to have missed the pedalolymics - sounds fun
    Wonko - glad the weekend cheered up a bit for you
    And... a right royal gaffaw at GM's weekend singing - did the bride and groom notice?!

    I've brought some yummy ripe brie and a few loaves of french bread for those who haven't had lunch yet - dig in, do.

  106. At 02:30 PM on 09 Jul 2007, Izzy T'Me wrote:

    I've been battling with a decision I've got to make and just thought of my fellow froggers - you're bound to have views and advice. So, here goes (don't hold your breath - it's not momentus!):

    What type of bbq should I buy - gas or charcoal? I have a small party planned for Saturday (SO and best friend both 40) and decided that a bbq was the best option. My feeling is that a gas one will be more convienient for me to light on my own before SO gets home from work (in the future), which is good. But do gas bbq's produce the same flavour or is it just like taking a grill outside?

    I'm sure there will be some very firm views held over this - I'm looking forward to them!

    P.S. Well done Francis O - wasps can be rather nasty.

  107. At 02:30 PM on 09 Jul 2007, Anne P. wrote:

    Frances, wasps are generally good news and rarely aggressive until they start to get sleepy (or drunk on fruit) in the autumn.

    If you really need to trap (and or exterminate) when eating out of doors try a jam jar with sticky stuff - thick orange juice, runny jam etc - with a paper cover over the top with a hole in. Wasps can enter but not exit. It's up to you whether the liquid is enough to drown them or not.

    Meanwhile do try some of this cheese and onion tart guaranteed wasp free.

  108. At 02:42 PM on 09 Jul 2007, Wonko wrote:

    Right back at you Izzy! Drop of hair of the dog?

    ;o) []

  109. At 02:56 PM on 09 Jul 2007, Aperitif wrote:

    Fifi (92), If you have a compartment large enough to contain a kaftan then I don't imagine it is actually a secret at all ;-)

    Pink Pyjamas (103), Really? Do you wear them when you're coming round the mountain* too?

    *How does that work exactly?

    Frances (104), me too. Well done you.

    Izzy (105) Ooh yummy, thanks. Here are some very juicy grapes to go along with it.

  110. At 03:10 PM on 09 Jul 2007, Rachel G wrote:


    Charcoal (English woodland, sustainable, etc natch) every time. Never seen the point in gas bbqs. Not until you're 70 anyway. What's a bbq unless you end up covered in grime, with tears from the smoke gently washing the smuts from your face. Easy to light if you get one of the Weber kettle ones (other kettle bbqs in sexy colours also available) and if you really want the easy option get bags of instant lighting charcoal which are already impregnated with (probably) carcinogenic lighter fuel. Gas bbqs take away all the risks and are consequently no fun.

    There. Suitably trenchant, I hope?

  111. At 03:13 PM on 09 Jul 2007, Ed Iglehart wrote:


    Charcoal (only British lump, not briquettes - check the bag) is best and does give a better flavour. Best to light a normal wood fire first and let it burn down almost to coals, then add the charcoal...

    Charcoal briquettes and the readymade one-time sort or 'easy light', etc. are worse than gas, and frequently use material from the destruction of rainforests.

    Enjoy the BBQ in any case, and be proud of your accomplishment! I know how rare Firsts are, and rightly so.

    And, for sheer entertainment, a song for the BBQ

    Ooooh! it's so malicious!

  112. At 03:16 PM on 09 Jul 2007, Pink Pyjamas wrote:

    Aperitif - No, that would just be silly!
    (and undignified)
    (and impractical)

  113. At 03:28 PM on 09 Jul 2007, Peej wrote:

    Izzy - I got a gas bbq a couple of years ago, its a darn site more convenient and because its quite big its brilliant for entertaining. Its also a lot easier to control the heat if you're cooking different things. But I have to agree with Ed, I don't think the flavour is the same. I also used to enjoy the art of getting the coals to just the right temperature, its not the same just twiddling a knob (if you'll pardon the expression). If its something that you'll want to use quite regularly, perhaps as a last minute sort of thing, go for the gas. Otherwise stick with tradition.

  114. At 03:47 PM on 09 Jul 2007, The BBQ expert wrote:

    Azzy - don't listen to these people who advocate charcoal - they are living in the past.

    Charcoal is OK if you don't mind wasting hours whilst it gets to temperature and subsequently cools down - a real pain if there are any children about. It is also a myth that the charcoal adds any flavour to the food. Charcoal is neutral - any additional flavour is added either to the charcoal by the manufacturers or by the person doing the BBQ.

    A gas BBQ is quicker, safer, more convenient, more easily controlled and produces exactly the same flavour. The only extra thing that a charcoal BBQ can supply is a sense of achievement on the odd occasion that you get the thing to light and stay hot long enough to cook the food!

  115. At 03:49 PM on 09 Jul 2007, Aperitif wrote:

    Anne (107) Frances, wasps are generally good news and rarely aggressive until they start to get sleepy (or drunk on fruit) in the autumn. Pardon me for shouting but GOOD NEWS??? Go wash out your mouth with soapy water Madam! ;-)

    Pink Pyjamas (112) This isn't the same as not frogging you know?... But I know what you mean. Unless they have a vent, they are highly impractical in that sort of situation...

    Aperitif, terrified of wasps since toddlerhood and, having been undeservedly stung more than once, justified in being so!

  116. At 03:50 PM on 09 Jul 2007, The BBQ expert wrote:

    Izzy (Azzy) - Sorry I got some smoke in my eye when I was typing that!

  117. At 04:04 PM on 09 Jul 2007, nikki noodle wrote:

    Thanks all for birthday greetings!!

    hmmm can't see the message I post this am. Must have been modded....though come to think of it, it was a little strong....that's what comes with working on one's b-d.

    (...or else i can't post from work?!!?)

    well, lets see if this gets through...!


  118. At 04:10 PM on 09 Jul 2007, Ed Iglehart wrote:

    Appy, et al.,

    "terrified of wasps since toddlerhood and, having been undeservedly stung more than once, justified in being so!

    I believe that, like dogs and numerous other creatures, wasps can sense fear (adrenaline or its metabolites, etc) and respond with aggression because nothing is more dangerous than a frightened animal.

    I've observed that honeybees don't sting their keepers often, even when (s)he doesn't use smoke, but they have stung me while I was nearby, quivering with fright, and using the smoker....

    Wasps can usually be shoo-ed away gently but not aggressively. Aggression will yield an appropriate response. The trapping techniques mentioned above are also quite effective.


  119. At 04:22 PM on 09 Jul 2007, Molly wrote:

    Izzy (105)


    Gillian- the Naughty place, do you think?


  120. At 04:23 PM on 09 Jul 2007, Jason Good wrote:

    So...interview tomorrow lunchtime. Veering between Private Fraser, Corporal Jones and Private Pike...

    Clothes sorted. Barber's shop shut unexpectedly today with a note saying "back Tuesday" so need to sort that tomorrow and then get back to change/shower to lose the stray hairs. Brain mush. Digestive system has realised something is up.

    Why do we put ourselves through such things?

  121. At 04:26 PM on 09 Jul 2007, Pink Pyjamas wrote:

    Aperitif. Yes, I know it's not, but good fun nonetheless. By the way, "vent" is a beautiful word isn't it?

  122. At 04:28 PM on 09 Jul 2007, Ed Iglehart wrote:

    Beware of self-styled experts:
    an ex is a has-been, and a spurt
    is a drip under pressure.

    An expert is someone called in at the last minute to share the blame.

    One accurate measurement is worth a thousand expert opinions.

    I suspect y'all know how I feel about 'experts'

  123. At 04:31 PM on 09 Jul 2007, Aperitif wrote:

    Ed (118) I quite agree -- they can smell fear and the aggreesive little b*****ds revel in it! I am rendered incapable of moving by the presence of a wasp, and so cannot possibly pose any threat to them. I truly become utterly rigid with fear. And yet they sting. And it hurts like nothing else I have ever experienced. And they are completely useless as far as I can see. Now then, where's that Downing Street petition link?...

  124. At 04:55 PM on 09 Jul 2007, Ed Iglehart wrote:


    "And they are completely useless as far as I can see. "

    One basic weakness in a conservation system based wholly on economic motives is that most members of the land community have no economic value. Wildflowers and songbirds are examples. Of the 22,000 higher plants and animals native to Wisconsin, it is doubtful whether more than 5 per cent can be sold, fed, eaten, or otherwise put to economic use Yet these creatures are members of the biotic community, and if (as I believe) its stability depends on its integrity they are entitled to continuance. -- Aldo Leopold


  125. At 05:00 PM on 09 Jul 2007, Anne P. wrote:

    Just discovered the hard way a new meaning for 'frogging' - 'rip it rip it' otherwise known as tinking (knitting spelt backwards).

    In other words I was interrupted in a particularly complicated bit of lace, made a mistake and have now had to rip three days work out and start again. Learning the hard way.

    So a hug would be appreciated.

  126. At 05:08 PM on 09 Jul 2007, Aperitif wrote:

    Pink (121), It's nice, but my favourite word today is "should". Not.

    Ed (123) Are you my father????

  127. At 05:13 PM on 09 Jul 2007, Ed Iglehart wrote:


  128. At 05:15 PM on 09 Jul 2007, Pink Pyjamas wrote:

    My favourite Limerick

    There was a young man from Dundee,
    Who got stung on the leg with a wasp
    When asked if it hurt
    He said no not a bit
    It can do it again if it likes!

  129. At 05:18 PM on 09 Jul 2007, Fifi wrote:

    ((((( Anne P )))))

    There, there.

    Fifi xx

  130. At 05:20 PM on 09 Jul 2007, anth wrote:

    Izzy (106),

    One advantage of the charcoal version is that you can add woodchips (plum or cherry sawdust), or rosemary sprigs etc to help add an aroma and perhaps a little extra to the smoky flavour.

    However, I was at a BBQ recently where they had a gas one, and it certainly did the job of feeding about 40 people. Also, the cheap charcoal BBQs seem to only survive a season or two.

  131. At 05:55 PM on 09 Jul 2007, Frances O wrote:


    Birthday to you!!!!!

    Hope you're having a wonderful day.

    Magnum of fizz on the NC Bar for you.

  132. At 05:56 PM on 09 Jul 2007, Wonko wrote:

    My two pence on the subject of barbeques:

    I prefer (lumpwood) charcoal to brickettes, disposables or gas. As far as I'm concerned gas isn't a barbeque, it's just a hob outdoors.

    There is no reason why a properly laid and tended charcoal barbeque cannot cook for a large number of people. As anth has noted, it can also have various materials added to help flavour the food - I like juniper and applewood.

  133. At 06:25 PM on 09 Jul 2007, Ed Iglehart wrote:

    Appy (126),

    I don't think so... ;-)

    Honest it wasn't meant maliciously!

  134. At 06:34 PM on 09 Jul 2007, Gillian wrote:

    Molly (119) Don't tell Izzy off....I'm sorry to admit it, but it was I who first used the term Big Un....for my eldest daughter. I'm Little Un, as even my petite younger daughter is now (only just!) taller than me ;o(

    Jason(120) All the very best for tomorrow. Just be your lovely self. xx

    Anne P (125) ((((((xxxxxx)))))) I only hope the interruption was worth it!

  135. At 06:44 PM on 09 Jul 2007, Ed Iglehart wrote:

    We fed about thirty folk using a BBQ made from a rusty 40 gallon drum in an hour or so, and it'll likely last a good few years. Shelves retrieved from a junkyard fridge work fine, and the cut off half can be placed over as a cover when adding dampened woodchips for extra smoky flavour. Total cost: about one hour with hammer and chisel.

    Who needs to spend a fortune at [insert 'DIY' outlet] ?

  136. At 07:58 PM on 09 Jul 2007, Stewart M wrote:

    On holiday I use Charcoal as european weather invariably warmer and dryer so it lights better than back in blighty. At home I'm afraid I've gone gas. It works. I entertained 40 odd at my 40th using the Gas BBQ. 10 years ago I entertained 40 using a kettle BBQ and charcoal. Take your pick both are justified.

    Mind if Ed uses an Oil drum BBQ up in Scotland....

  137. At 09:51 PM on 09 Jul 2007, Molly wrote:

    Gillian- all clear! Also, I forgot to say well done to you both(!!!) on such a good result!

    Nickyy-N- I didn't know it,s your b;day- lots of wishes for you. Party tonight? Bubby at the NC for you....


  138. At 10:23 PM on 09 Jul 2007, Peej wrote:

    Just in from an after work meeting and was catching up with things down on the beach. Ed posted a comment about *experts* which was followed by a response from Appy who reckoned that they can "smell fear and were agressive little b****rds". Bit strong for the beach I thought then I realised she was referring to Ed's earlier comment about wasps!!

  139. At 10:58 PM on 09 Jul 2007, Molly wrote:

    Peej- that'll teach you to 'skim 'n scan' on the beach!


  140. At 12:02 AM on 10 Jul 2007, Gossipmistress wrote:

    N-N Hippo Birdy for yesterday!

    Aperitif - I tried to free a wasp from our kitchen at work last week. I couldn't 'shoo' it so instead I tried catching it with a mug & a piece of card.

    *Warning - those of a nervous disposition and any officials from the RCVS who witnessed me swearing an oath to protect all animals should look away now .....*

    Unfortunately, in the process, I managed to squash the wasp's head against the rim of the mug. As it fell onto the window ledge, I noticed that its' head had come off but was still attached by a very thin white strand, which I now assume was its' spinal cord.

    It was still upright, and drumming its' wings. A few seconds later, it gathered its' head in its' front legs and flew across the room! For a second I considered trying to superglue its head back on.. but thought better of it and instead hit it extremely hard with a copy of the Veterinary Record.

    Where are you Val P? Are you on holiday?

  141. At 12:07 AM on 10 Jul 2007, Aperitif wrote:

    Jason (120), Break a leg!

    Oh dear me Ed (124), Why so obsessed with economics? Some transference going on here methinks -- I certainly didn't mean useless in economic terms... I don't need a lecture thanks. And I hate wasps, with good reason. I am never going to change my mind.

    Anne (125), Big hug.

    Pyjamas (128), That bloke from Dundee was a big fibber.

    Ed (133) You do a mean impersonation of him sometimes!

    Peej (138), No doubt there are 'Has Been Drips Under Pressure' who fit the description too :-)

  142. At 07:59 AM on 10 Jul 2007, Jason Good wrote:

    I appear to have woken with my leg in plaster and a pair of crutches beside me. What happened last night?

  143. At 09:11 AM on 10 Jul 2007, Gillian wrote:

    Jason(142) Oh heck!!! I hope your comment was just ''Beach Talk'', and didn't really happen back in July. Not today of all days...........?

  144. At 09:18 AM on 10 Jul 2007, Molly wrote:

    GM- what a story! I'm glad I didn't read that before 'retiring' as they say.... how on earth can that happen?

    Appy- I hate them too, no matter what .....

    Jason- all crossed.

    Time for a very quick paddle, methinks-


  145. At 09:23 AM on 10 Jul 2007, Aperitif wrote:

    Oh dear Mistress (140)! What away to start the day - I feel quite queasy now! Eeeewww. And, somehow, the whole tail strikes me as evidence of their evilness... (How come you didn't get stung???)

    Silly Jason (142)! I meant at the interview, not before it! Not sure the sympathy vote is what you're looking for :-/ GOOD LUCK!!

  146. At 09:34 AM on 10 Jul 2007, Pink Pyjamas wrote:

    Aperitif - You are right - he's not be trusted. Another Limerick though - I think this one is VERY clever.

    A lively young damsel named Menzies
    Inquired: "Do you know what this thenzies?"
    Her aunt, with a gasp,
    Replied: "It's a wasp,
    And you're holding the end where the stenzies

    How can that be malicious/too quick when I haven't said anything since yesterday? Methinks that the algorithm used to detect repetitive posting needs a bit of thought!

  147. At 10:26 AM on 10 Jul 2007, Jason Good wrote:

    Hair cut finally ticked off the "to do" list. I now have two hours to kill. I wonder how long I can spend in the shower?

    Perhaps just one game of Internet Hearts before I re-read all there is to know about Every Child Matters...

  148. At 11:08 AM on 10 Jul 2007, witchiwoman wrote:

    Good grief, can't a girl grab 5 mins for a quick frog -what is the world coming to? Sorry if I have missed anything important; I offer retroactive frugs and support.

    Could someone please give my shoulders a quick massage before I head back to the breach? Ta xx

  149. At 11:41 AM on 10 Jul 2007, Jason Good wrote:

    I've photo-blogged the interview outfit and I'm out the door.... Hope July is going well for you all.

  150. At 11:56 AM on 10 Jul 2007, Peej wrote:

    there you go WW, is that better? Nice muscle tone by the way. Can any technically adept frogger save a copy of today's screen so that RJD can see his strapline when he comes back from his hols?

  151. At 12:12 PM on 10 Jul 2007, Aperitif wrote:

    Pyjamas (146) Clever, yes, but can we stop all the wasp-talk now please?

    Jason (149) Gah! Your link didn't work! Hope you're wearing a tie, after hearing the discussion on the Today programme this morning! (Wayne Hemmingway -- advocate of dispensing with ties -- came across as a self-important twit, thus I am compelled to supprt the opposite view.)

    Peej (150), It might be easier if we just ask RJD to show us his straplines when he gets back, no? ;-)

  152. At 12:14 PM on 10 Jul 2007, Ed Iglehart wrote:


    You should update your namelink to:

    Good luck!

    Malicious, eh? Why ain't I surprised?

  153. At 12:17 PM on 10 Jul 2007, Izzy T'Me wrote:

    Well, I seemed to have stirred up a hornets nest there (sorry Appy and Francis - I guess you'd better hide somewhere). Thanks to Rachel, Ed, Wonko, Stewart, Anth, Peej and BBQ Expert for all your replies - I certainly have some food (properly cooked, of course) for thought there. I'll let you know what side I've come down on, later.

    Ed I - The song made me laugh out loud - I'm amazed that anyone has the time to put something like that together, but I'm glad they did!

    Wonko - that hair of the dog worked wonders, thank you!

    Molly - I see why you wondered what I was talking about, glad Gillian cleared it up - thank you!

    Jason - I guess you are in the lions den while I write this. Hope it's all going well, I'm sure you'll be top notch.

    Anne P - oh dear, poor you. (((frug)))

    Witchi - I read that as "radioactive frugs and support" - wow, I thought! :-)

    A very healthy tureen of green vegetable soup with crusty sour dough bread on the NC bar for those who need some boosting in the 5 a day department! (And for those who just fancy some, too)

  154. At 12:38 PM on 10 Jul 2007, Molly wrote:

    Peej (150)

    May I interrupt?
    Not likely- if you go on holiday ,you forfeit all rights to see your strapline- fair's fair ,after all!

    Gosh- hope I'm not bieng malicious - perhaps you're right......


  155. At 01:02 PM on 10 Jul 2007, Izzy T'Me wrote:

    Jason - I wanted to have a peek at your interview outfit, but your link doesn't appear to be working. T*sc*l* says it can't find you.

  156. At 01:13 PM on 10 Jul 2007, Rachel G wrote:

    GM (140) Great wasp story, ugh. I'd never really thought about whether invertebrates have a spinal cord. I suppose I'd always assumed they had some sort of distributed nerve network. Though, perhaps that's just worms. Gruesome, anyway.

    Does anyone know where we are wrt 50,000? Should we be working harder to achieve it before summer hols?

  157. At 01:36 PM on 10 Jul 2007, Jason Good wrote:

    By jove, I think I've fixed the link! I'm not getting out of IT for nothing, you know.

    Interview went very well - came away confident that, if they interviewed no one else, they'd definately want me.

    I considered intercepting any remaining candidates but (a) they'd be hard to spot and (b) they had already interviewed some others.

    I get the result around 4pm....I may have consumed Eric's entire ice supply in my drinks between then and 5...

  158. At 02:21 PM on 10 Jul 2007, witchiwoman wrote:

    Peej - that was great, thanks you so much! (and ta for the compliment blush blush)

    Jason - thinking of you and hope its going well!

    Rachel G - I've been wondering that too; we must be getting there?!

  159. At 02:33 PM on 10 Jul 2007, Aperitif wrote:

    Well done Jason (157), how's the leg?

  160. At 02:50 PM on 10 Jul 2007, Jason Good wrote:

    Appy (159): in need of a pull.

    I only went and managed to forget to mention the most relevant bit of experience I have when they asked the "what can you bring to this job" question.

    Fortunately the very nice would-be boss reminded me. Which was kind.

    They seemed a bit flumoxed at my "any dress code" question.

    I'm not quite sure I could cope with having to make the effort to wear jeans and a t-shirt every day....

    Alles klar at around Vier Uhr. More nervous now than I was before! I have resolved that if I don't get the job I shall become Fagin and teach the local young offenders to run faster!

  161. At 03:50 PM on 10 Jul 2007, Wonko wrote:

    Blimey! What a day I've had in July! My feet have barely touched the ground.

    Public Transport, grrrrrrrr! There seem to be a lot of people in need of frugs around here, including me!

    Anyway, here I am now... ((((((****))))))

    Izzy - glad the dog hair worked, it was a springer spaniel in case you were wondering...

    ;o) []

  162. At 04:28 PM on 10 Jul 2007, Aperitif wrote:

    Jason (160), I have a friend who works in Youth Offending down your way. I've just emailed him to ask if he knows about interviews today and he says he was on the panel! The guy who asked about strategies for dealing with the most difficult young people, when they evidently have potential? That was him! He said they're planning to hire the interviewee who had the best singing voice! Is there something we should know?...

  163. At 05:03 PM on 10 Jul 2007, Jason Good wrote:

    Appy (162): Not my panel, sadly.

    We only had 6 questions and the "he" asked about making multi-agency teams work and diversity.

    And I think we all know I don't do singing ;-)

    Not a word yet...perhaps their last interview overran...or perhaps I am a "sorry to break the news".

    Soon know - already found two more to apply for whilst sitting here waiting!

  164. At 05:39 PM on 10 Jul 2007, Izzy T'Me wrote:

    Wonko - Ah, so that was it. I couldn't quite place the bouquet, thought I was gettting hint of labrador. Must try harder at the dog hair tasting sessions.

    Jason - know the feeling of hanging around waiting for the phone call, it's a bit grim isn't it? Still, it could be that the longer you wait the better news it will be.....

    Hey Appy - must be your dream come true, Eddie proposing via the newsletter, don't let him off the hook now!

    Izz xx

  165. At 05:41 PM on 10 Jul 2007, Aperitif wrote:

    Jason (163), Um, guess I'd better stop pulling then... Fingers crossed.

    A, x.

  166. At 06:01 PM on 10 Jul 2007, Jason Good wrote:

    Now two hours past time. Guessing they have offered it and are awaiting a "can I think overnight" response. Off to have a curry and then plenty of throat lubrication...

  167. At 06:10 PM on 10 Jul 2007, Fifi wrote:

    Jason, I have everything crossed for you. Bet you get it, bet you do!

    * trips over crossed knees having forgotten crossed eyes *


    Fifi ;o)

  168. At 06:34 PM on 10 Jul 2007, Anne P. wrote:

    Finally made it to the beach - frantic day (exhausted after two hours of tai chi fan), but thanks for all the hugs. it really does make a difference. And some for those in need today ((((((*****)))))).

    It'll be ages before I have time to start that lace again, too much to do, unless it rains again of course and I really can't wish for that.

    Anyway, haven't had time to cook, but here's some smoked salmon and salad with lovely wholemeal bread and butter. Chilled white to accompany, or fresh juice for those who prefer it.

    Fingers crossed for you Jason.

  169. At 07:03 PM on 10 Jul 2007, Humph wrote:

    Appy (165) You claim to be replying to Jason (163). Are you sure that you were not really replying to Iz (164)?


  170. At 07:29 PM on 10 Jul 2007, Fifi wrote:

    I'm just back from the supermarket and the chippie:

    Several reasonably priced portions of ready-roasted chicken joints from the s/m, and several portions of chips from the other place.

    All well-wrapped and keeping warm on the hot plate of the barbie.

    Anyone brought afters??


    PS quick with the chicken folks. Daisy T Cat has spotted it and is considering learning the art of begging.....

  171. At 07:58 PM on 10 Jul 2007, Jason Good wrote:

    And the verdict is...bup-barp! Thank you for playing.

    Call at 18:10 to say I was a strong candidate and gave a good interview but the other four shortlisted were all in post in other regions doing the job where as my experience resembles is almost nil.

    Good feedback, encouraging noises, no job. I live to fight another day.

  172. At 09:14 PM on 10 Jul 2007, Anne P. wrote:

    Commiserations, Jason. It's their loss, but I'm glad the feedback was good.

    Have some sloe gin to fortify you for another day.

  173. At 09:16 PM on 10 Jul 2007, Stewart M wrote:

    Jason, Bad luck. But if all others in post then another post becomes vacant.....

    Have a beer on me.

  174. At 10:02 PM on 10 Jul 2007, Fifi wrote:

    Jason .. nooooo!

    But you've practised now. You've visualised yourself in the role. You believed you could do it ... we ALL knew you could do it.

    When it comes, and it will, it will work out better than this dry-run would have done.

    Hurrah for dry-runs! I really mean that.

    Now then. Next in my sights is something called 'Australian red wine'. Quite acceptable. Glasses, please.....?


  175. At 12:38 AM on 11 Jul 2007, Aperitif wrote:

    Humph (169), Hahaha! You could be right :-)

    Commiserations Jason (171), But something even better may be just around the corner.

  176. At 07:56 AM on 11 Jul 2007, Jason Good wrote:

    Thanks all.

    Met the current Mrs G ten years ago today so no time for melancholy.

    I think this frog needs a spellchecker...

  177. At 09:35 AM on 11 Jul 2007, witchiwoman wrote:

    Jason - Commis and congrats all in one!

    Coffee and pancakes this morning, with a strawberries too.

  178. At 09:39 AM on 11 Jul 2007, Gillian wrote:

    Jason (176) Lucky Mrs G! Congratulations on your Anniversary. ♥ ♥ ♥

    Bad luck about the job, but in the face of the other candidates' experience, there was nothing you could have done diffferently or better.
    You had excellent feedback, so there's nothing to worry about.
    Keep applying - you will have so much more confidence at the next interview.

  179. At 10:22 AM on 11 Jul 2007, Fifi wrote:

    What Gillian (178) said. Spot-on.


    Hope Mrs G wasn't looking!

    Fifi ;o)

  180. At 11:15 AM on 11 Jul 2007, Wonko wrote:

    Jason - I can only echo what the other Froggers have said. Commiserations and best of luck with future applications. There's a large Ardbeg Lord of the Isles on the bar at Nick's for you.

    I've left my brain in bed this morning back in July, so appologies in advance if I post absolute rubbish today. Mind you, how would you all tell the difference?

    Coffee please... and doughnuts. Remember the sage words of Homer J Simpson: "Purple is a fruit"

    ;o) []

  181. At 11:51 AM on 11 Jul 2007, Anne P. wrote:

    Must've been the result of our Eddie's proposal of marriage yesterday, but I had the strangest dream.... Couldn't possibly share, but it definitely left me with a warm fuzzy feeling.

    By way of late breakfast or early lunch - here's some scrambled egg with smoked salmon, plenty of bread and butter and the last of my strawberries.

  182. At 12:28 PM on 11 Jul 2007, Ed Iglehart wrote:


    Commiserations and reiteration of all the good advice. Another day cometh.

    Anne P,

    We used to call that LEO in New York - Lox, Eggs & Onions, and a delicious combination, especially with a warm buttered bagel.


  183. At 01:26 PM on 11 Jul 2007, Aperitif wrote:

    Congrats Jason and Mrs G.

  184. At 03:18 PM on 11 Jul 2007, Fifi wrote:

    Serious bloggage here today. It's now 3.15 and the last message was at 12.28. That's not right for the Beach!!!

    Good news to share: I have just completed my first proper fully paid-for assignment, writing copy for a website.

    And the client loved it!

    *does a little dance*

    Now settling down to start my second one. And the promise of lots more to follow!

    My brain hurts but I don't care. Hurrah!

    Fifi ;o)))))))

  185. At 03:52 PM on 11 Jul 2007, nikki noodle wrote:

    Sadly, I dont think this will get through either, it seems I cant frog from work at all.

    boo hoo.


  186. At 04:14 PM on 11 Jul 2007, Wonko wrote:

    Quiet, isn't it?

    A little, too quiet...

    Can you tell I'm having a slow day?

    Is it Pimms O'Clock yet?

    ;o) []

  187. At 06:45 PM on 11 Jul 2007, Aperitif wrote:

    Wonko (186), Yes. Here you go. :-)

  188. At 07:43 PM on 11 Jul 2007, Gossipmistress wrote:

    Jason - I think their comments sound really encouraging. You can't have been far off getting it! Happy Anniversary to you & Mrs G!!x

    Now then Wonko where's the Pimm's? You can't keep it all for yourself you know! No use running off into the dunes with it....

  189. At 09:38 PM on 11 Jul 2007, Anne P. wrote:

    Goodness, where is everyone?

    I'm just going to appropriate the purple hammock for a while. Do wake me if I'm missing anything.

  190. At 09:51 PM on 11 Jul 2007, stewart m (for two nights only in birmingham) wrote:

    not sure if last post got sent. freewifi saud i'd timed out. any recommendations for eats in centre of birmingham?

  191. At 10:02 PM on 11 Jul 2007, Aperitif wrote:

    Stewart (190), Um 'Ming' is in the centre of Birmingham, so I'd suggest Chinese.

  192. At 10:20 PM on 11 Jul 2007, Fifi wrote:

    Or, Stewart, using the same logic, 'Ham' in the far south of the city.

    Fifi ;o)

  193. At 12:01 AM on 12 Jul 2007, anth wrote:

    "Birm" is a small earth ridge (behind which a soldier may lie in wait, in an extension of the definition). Using the logic of 191 & 192, for food tasting like earth, may I suggest some of the fast food joints of unhappy memory?

    "Birmingham" has thus been defined as a vase in which ham is stored, sealed with an earthen ridge. Sounds a little generous to me (an ex resident of Brum). Now where's my Uxbridge English Dictionary?

  194. At 08:01 AM on 12 Jul 2007, Molly wrote:

    Jason- just catching up- sorry etc- but for a reason. Bieng that something better will turn up which you'd have missed. Always, always does- I'm soooooo fatalistic these days.......

    Have some cake wth your coffee.


  195. At 09:44 AM on 12 Jul 2007, Gillian wrote:

    Fifi(184) Congratulations! Here's a bottle of Shiraz to celebrate.

    Stewart M (190) Am I too late to tell you that the Rep has an excellent restaurant? Lots of pub-type eateries around the Canal, too.

  196. At 10:41 AM on 12 Jul 2007, witchiwoman wrote:

    Morning all - wow, July is wearisome! Am sadly negligent in my frogging duties. Maube August will bring better weather and a few extra minutes in the day!

    Has Fiona set off on her camping van adventure yet?

  197. At 11:14 AM on 12 Jul 2007, Peej wrote:

    Congrats Fi (184) - how's the second assignment going? There's a pert little mango and passionfruit tea on the go if you're ready for a break.

  198. At 11:32 AM on 12 Jul 2007, Anne P. wrote:

    Witchi - oh how I agree - these endlessly grey skies are really getting me down. Thanks heavens for the uninterrupted blue above the beach.

  199. At 12:12 PM on 12 Jul 2007, Wonko wrote:

    Sorry chaps, must have dropped off there. Oh look, I've gone and spilt Pimms all over the hammock! Sorry, I'll just go and rinse it in under a waterfall.

    July is being a bit itesome isn't it? I haven't had one single journey to or from work this week without some kind of problem. Grrrrrrrrr!

    Never mind, here's a large Spanish Tortilla I made (many large beaten eggs; fried potatoes, onions, peppers and peas). Cut yourself a slice and wash it down with some cranberry juice with a splash of Apple Schanpps in it, served over crushed ice.

    ;o) []

  200. At 02:48 PM on 12 Jul 2007, witchiwoman wrote:

    You know what, I've had enough; time for a swim with the dolphins, a glass of fizz at the NC bar, then a bit of hammock action; may even daydream about that rather manly chap from Rome (not Anthony).....

    Wonko - lovely tortilla; are you feeling calm now?

  201. At 03:51 PM on 12 Jul 2007, Wonko wrote:

    Witchi - Yes, but she keeps telling me stop! Fnar, fnar. Sorry, I'll stop now.

    I am calmer now, I just have the suspicion that it will be a purely temporary state. Still, at least The Beach is here to help. Glad you like the tortilla, it's one of my specialities.

    ;o) []

  202. At 04:18 PM on 12 Jul 2007, witchiwoman wrote:

    Malicioused - over camomile tea bags...argh

  203. At 04:42 PM on 12 Jul 2007, Aperitif wrote:

    Hello Everyone,

    Goodness! I didn't even know we had a waterfall! I think I'll go and take a shower in it. Lovely :-)

  204. At 05:37 PM on 12 Jul 2007, Wonko wrote:

    Apertif - You didn't know we had a waterfall? This is a tropical beach location, they all have watefalls. Either that or the shampoo adverts have been lying to me all these years! I guess you've found it by now - it's very invigorating.

    Excuse me, I've got to go and water the petunias (and that's not a euphamism for something else!). Then it's home time back in July, Mrs Wonko and I are going to see the new Parry Hotter film tonight (she insisted - other films and methods of entertainment are available). Mrs Wonko's a big fan of the books, I find the films midly diverting but have yet to pick up any of the books - partly through lack of interest, partly through stubborness!

    ;o) []

  205. At 08:20 PM on 12 Jul 2007, anth wrote:

    Aperitif (203),

    I hope the phantom clothes thief does not strike while you're under the waterfall. For do you have an emergency sarong in a secret compartment?

  206. At 11:33 PM on 12 Jul 2007, Jason Good wrote:

    Appy (191): Now that is among the funniest things I have read recently. I giggled. In fact, I mis-swallowed my beer and I now have bubbles up my nose.

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