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Eddie Mair | 05:06 UK time, Wednesday, 25 October 2006

PM newsletter for Monday arrived this morning at 03.11.

The BBC: Embracing today's technology tomorrow.


  1. At 06:14 AM on 25 Oct 2006, Rosalind wrote:

    Good morning.

    My newsletter was on my computer this morning and i took great pleasure in reading it. Thank you.

    But why are you up at 5.00 Eddie? I have 2 cats and a puppy who ensure i get up at 6.00, what is your excuse?

    I have a sprained or bruised ankle from tripping over the uneven surface and stones on the terrace a couple of days ago, it is being dug up and relaid and I was taking puppy out at night. It's really painful. And I can't think what to do about it. Probably nothing is the most sensible.

    Sorry to moan so early. Cheerfulness will break through now.

  2. At 06:15 AM on 25 Oct 2006, Fearless Fred wrote:

    Okay, Eddie, you're scaring me now, blogging this early!

  3. At 06:55 AM on 25 Oct 2006, The Stainless Steel Cat wrote:

    How's that for service?

    I missed most of the programme last night, so I'll have to "listen again" to it when I get into work.

    Lo and behold, here's the newslater at breakfast time to tell me what's coming up later.

    Admit it Eddie, this was all planned to be kind to catch-ups like me.


  4. At 07:58 AM on 25 Oct 2006, Kevin wrote:

    Seems to have got lost somewhere between lists1.mh.bbc.co.uk and lists2.mh.bbc.co.uk according to the headers.

    As a sad old techie - I would be interested to know why the newsletter has to go through so many mailhosts inside the Beeb before hitting the outside world.

  5. At 08:07 AM on 25 Oct 2006, Mrs Trellis wrote:

    Morning Eddie. I too received my mondays news letter today. What are the chances of getting one today? I await with baited breath and fingers crossed.
    PS Why are you up at 5 in the morning? Hope your ok.

  6. At 08:28 AM on 25 Oct 2006, Deepthought (formerly John W) wrote:

    Mrs Trellis (5),

    Baited breath to catch the crossed fish fingers, perhaps?

  7. At 08:35 AM on 25 Oct 2006, Mae Tron wrote:

    I had to wait for the first 2 coffees of the day to be able to inform you that my newsletter arrived at 03.31 - a full 20 minutes after yours Eddie. I think we should be able to measure the time email takes to get to all sorts of places. So London to Norfolk is 20 minutes (Ignoring the 12+ hours since the newsletter was already sent when it clearly went to that slide thing at the Tate Modern followed by supper at a suitably swish restarant followed perhaps by a trip to the cinema?)
    Ground it, I say, until it does it's homework.

  8. At 08:37 AM on 25 Oct 2006, mark drew wrote:

    You clearly didn't follow my advice on the blog regarding the much delayed emails - if you renamed it the PM News Journal then its title clearly doesn't convey the same urgency as a letter. A journal is a daily written record of (usually personal) experiences and observations. There there, calm down and go and rest in a dark place.

  9. At 08:38 AM on 25 Oct 2006, Sandra Jenkinson wrote:

    Monday's newsletter was waiting for me when I got into work this morning.

    At least I know the items that I missed ...

  10. At 08:40 AM on 25 Oct 2006, F.T. Fong, Kuala Lumpa, Malaysia wrote:

    Is this a joke? I've just received 19,678 'news letter' emails from Eddie Mair. What the hell is going on?

  11. At 08:41 AM on 25 Oct 2006, chrissie the trekkie wrote:

    Picked it up at work at 8.40.

    Was that really on the show on Monday? I don't remember.

    Looking forward to getting Tuesday's mail sometime this week!

  12. At 08:51 AM on 25 Oct 2006, Tony wrote:

    Mine didn't arrive until 3:38am.

    Must be something to do with all the second class posts . . .

  13. At 09:03 AM on 25 Oct 2006, Joe Palooka wrote:

    I'm expecting Chris Evans (Radio Two 5pm) news letter to arrive on time today (and in the correct order). Chris isn't the sort of chap that lets you down. Very efficient Mr Evans is.

  14. At 09:05 AM on 25 Oct 2006, Susan Orty-Boyden wrote:


    Re: Sending of PM news letter,

    Have you checked the instuctions on the box lid?

  15. At 09:06 AM on 25 Oct 2006, Piper wrote:

    ...a 01.52am arrival here

    At least it arrived. Those techies done good. Sort of...

  16. At 09:09 AM on 25 Oct 2006, OnTheLedge wrote:

    As a service to anyone who didn't receive it I have pasted below the content of said newsletter, with the additional comment that my sense of deja vu makes me think that the Newsletter inhabits a parallel universe.


    Well look, I really wasn't planning to send this. After the mess-ups of last week, and the well-deserved abuse we took, I honestly didn't think I should waste your time or mine with something which is out of date by the time it gets to you.

    But we thought - did we win two world wars with that attitude? No! And so here it is. The PM newsletter which you probably won't get till Friday.

    On our minds today: Iraq: when will the House of Commons next debate a policy which appears to be changing before our very eyes? Also: protecting children from people who want to harm them. Johnny Ball tells us he will ignore a new law being discussed this afternoon, post-Soham. We'll look at the rights of smokers to get health treatment, and examine violence on YouTube.

    And we'll have something on Scientology. I'll be wearing my built up heels to introduce that item.

    See you on the ice,

    Tom Muir

  17. At 09:13 AM on 25 Oct 2006, Big Sister wrote:

    Strapline: "PM:Monday's news on Wednesday."

    Sleepless nights are now over for you. You can sleep in tomorrow secure in the knowledge that Lissa has climbed down the wires and cleared the bloggage.

    Lissa and you are truly exemplary of the service to the public provided by the BBC.]

  18. At 09:17 AM on 25 Oct 2006, The Artist formerly known as Big Sister wrote:

    Tony (12?)
    Second class posts? That could verge on the abusive. Lissa is clearly not on duty yet!

    My prediction for Tuesday's newsletter is that it will arrive ................. about three days after Eddie decides to write it. If he decides ever to write it. After all, he said he wasn't going to bother.

  19. At 09:21 AM on 25 Oct 2006, Douglas Wright wrote:

    Dear Mr Muir

    I am confused enough without my emails arriving saying Monday when it is quite clearly not. We have porrige on Mondays and this was not the case this morning, was it nurse.
    Eric tell your people to behave

    Douglas wright
    Aged 104

  20. At 09:24 AM on 25 Oct 2006, Mrs Trellis wrote:

    Mine arrived at 0345. Must have been caught in traffic or something. Poor thing looked absolutely shattered when I saw it.

  21. At 09:25 AM on 25 Oct 2006, Rosalind wrote:

    Mine arrived at 12.42 on 23.10. What's that about?

    I must go and order my buffalo milk.

  22. At 09:27 AM on 25 Oct 2006, Belinda wrote:

    Mine arrived at 3.41AM. Of course I live outside of London...

  23. At 09:28 AM on 25 Oct 2006, Delores Behan-Ingland (Mrs) wrote:


    Why don't you send a quarterly newsletter - that might make things a bit easier for you?

  24. At 09:31 AM on 25 Oct 2006, ChrisUnevans wrote:


    Chris clearly has special agents in his pay with a remit to undermine any possible contenders for the title of Blog of the Year. This is a sad attempt by said Chris to regain his former 'glory' and, perhaps, win a seat in the Scottish Parliament. Or perhaps he's set his cap at the D.G.-ship?
    Who can tell.

    PM-ers rise above these tactics. We know our Chief works tirelessly to produce meaningful and highly valued newsletters to inform and entertain his reader/listenership. When things go wrong (as, sadly, they do - but blame it on the Beeb!) he stays up all night, working with his little John Bull cycle repair kit, sticking patches over all the holes in the system until, finally, the problem is 'fixed' and, to the huge delight and rounds of applause from his faithful followers, the longed-for newsletter plops safe and well into our little inboxes. It's a bit like a John Wayne film, really - or one of those Ealing War films, where the courage and plucky whimsy of the Joe Ordinary overcomes the wiles and cunning plans of the Big Bad Enemy .................

    Oh, I can't keep this up any longer! Must be time for bed.

  25. At 09:33 AM on 25 Oct 2006, Di Millman wrote:

    good morning eddie,

    I got my newsletter at 03:21 GMT. I too was up at 5 I was actually woken at just before 4 could it have been the noise of your email arriving?

    It is now 09:30 and I'm at work and feeling a little sleepy.

  26. At 09:35 AM on 25 Oct 2006, Stu wrote:

    Received 03:17 here. Tomorrow morning.

    Also seemed to go through lists2.mh.bbc.co.uk twice, and take nearly 20 minutes between lists2.mh.bbc.co.uk and lists.bbc.co.uk

  27. At 09:55 AM on 25 Oct 2006, member of the public. wrote:


    Why are you sending your own newsletter to yourself?

  28. At 09:56 AM on 25 Oct 2006, Anne P. wrote:

    Perhaps all this activity on the mail servers in the middle of the night is part of the Beeb's off-peak energy saving policy.

    But then again they saved even more by not sending it at all for two days.

    Saw from The Independent today that I am enjoined to save energy by doing my washing off-peak overnight. Can't help feeling this is the advice of a single man who never has more than one load of washing to do and doesn't mind if it gets creased sitting damp in the drum for hours.

  29. At 09:58 AM on 25 Oct 2006, Rufus T. Firefly wrote:

    My newsletter, Monday or otherwise, hasn't arrived!

  30. At 10:03 AM on 25 Oct 2006, silver-fox wrote:

    Nostalgic newsletter, astute blog.

  31. At 10:21 AM on 25 Oct 2006, Lady Penelope wrote:

    Morning all - and a special early-morning morning to Eric. I reckon he must have been up specially to listen out for the jokes on 'Farming Today'. Or the ones on the shipping forecast.

    Someone In Another Place mentioned that some of our regulars are missing this week. I know I was.

    It's half term in Norfolk and, judging by the number of clean 4x4s and beautifully accessorised children in Holt and Wells-next-the-Sea yesterday, everybody-and-his/her-mother have hammered up the M11 in order to get their hair cut (not an appointment to be had in Holt on Saturday). London must be half-empty.

    Other cities are, of course, available and not for a minnit am I suggesting that all fellow froggers are normally resident in that particular Big Smoke . . . They might have children home from school, though, and be doing creative things with loo-roll middles and sticky-backed plastic - or just losing the competition with their offspring to get their hands on the computer when said offspring are glued to B*bo or M*Space or whichever networking site is this week's destination of choice.

    Cleverly, though, I am a lone parent and have shunted mine off to their father's for the week and instead am ferrying my sister around the county in search of interesting things to buy. Like boxes of Cox's apples. And wrapping paper for her step-grandbaby's third birthday present. Neither of which, apparently, are to be had in Hampshire.

    I have no illuminating comments to make about anything (no change there, then) but just wanted to reassure all that am not at the bottom of a wine bottle somewhere :-)

    Now I must go to the Queen's Sawmill in search of interesting bits of wood and wicker baskets. And source some old apple crates. And, because am in process of setting up own business, make a few lists. Izzy wizzy etc . . .

    Lady P x

  32. At 10:31 AM on 25 Oct 2006, Big Sister wrote:

    For those of you who are not engaged in half term activities, but would like a bit of a break, may I suggest you link back to the summer hols via recent comments for Day One.
    The sun is out and we're all on the beach.

  33. At 11:38 AM on 25 Oct 2006, Rachel Pearce wrote:

    Mine arrived in Derbyshire at 03:09:17 this morning.

    FWIW the headers show that it was
    which held on to it for a day and a half before passing it on to
    at 02:48:52 this morning.

    Missed the programme on Monday anyway (half term swimming lessons). What did Johnny Ball say? I'd listen again only it crashes Internet Explorer on my computer.

  34. At 12:37 PM on 25 Oct 2006, andycroak wrote:

    Good to see you back in frogland Lady Pen!

    So, how do you make money from old apple crates? Is it Art or something useful?

  35. At 12:48 PM on 25 Oct 2006, Aunt Dahlia wrote:

    I must sign up for this newsletter. Does it have a crossword? Then when it doesn't arrive, it will be far less frustrating than trying to do the DT's.
    And is Joe Palooka really Chris Evans?

  36. At 12:57 PM on 25 Oct 2006, Chester Nydeer wrote:

    F. T. Fong,

    We're on our way to collect our emails. Put the kettle on there's a good chap.

  37. At 01:10 PM on 25 Oct 2006, Paul H wrote:

    Eddie, why not forward the newsletter on to Peter Levy at BBC Look North... his daily newsletter seems to make all the hops between lists2 and my desk in about 6 minutes...

  38. At 01:31 PM on 25 Oct 2006, Chester Nydeer wrote:

    Aunt Dahlia,

    What ho, Aged Relative!

    As to the crossword in the Newsletter - we have had an "arsed" which, though not cross in itself, denotes a certain amount of annoyance; I think you'll agree.

    As to the "Chris Evans" enquiry, I can unequivocally say "Who cares?"

    Pip, pip.

  39. At 01:35 PM on 25 Oct 2006, John H. wrote:

    Great minds..., Aunt Dahlia, I asked the same question in the other blog earlier.

  40. At 03:34 PM on 25 Oct 2006, Aperitif wrote:

    An excellent point Member of the Public (27). Perhaps Eric has a split personality and the recipient persona needs to know what the sender persona has said. This means when he's not on the ice he's a grumpy old goat with no wry wit at all. Come to think of it, I think I know him....

  41. At 04:39 PM on 25 Oct 2006, chrissie the trekkie wrote:

    Just got today's newletter.


    keep up the good work

  42. At 06:39 PM on 25 Oct 2006, Lady Penelope wrote:

    AndyCroak (34) - the apple crates are to be both Art and shelving, though not necessarily in that order. Shelving, mostly. If I can find any. Which seems unlikely at the moment, owing to the fact that apple farming seems to have become industrialised in these parts and those lovely wooden boxes they used to come in have all disappeared.

    I did find some carrot boxes, but they Won't Do At All.

  43. At 10:49 PM on 25 Oct 2006, Aperitif wrote:

    Glad you're OK Lady P :)

  44. At 03:21 PM on 26 Oct 2006, valery pedant wrote:

    Lady P, I remember asking about your Business Plan ages ago - did I get moderated? or is it a secret?

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