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  • Julian Hector
  • 1 Jan 07, 07:55 AM

Tonight at 21.02 GMT episode 6 of PEuT goes out. A programme whose content has very much been driven by the comments and opinions formed by you on this blog. Many of you have expressed the fact that climate change has occurred before with and without people being in the loop. Also, this week listen to Owl Prowl at 15.45 GMT where are very own Chris Sperring reconnects us with nature in his own special way.

Was your Christmas a load of rubbish - or a complete waste? Dare I ask the tonnage of waste needlessly generated as a direct result of the indulgence end of this Christian festival.

Tonights episode of PEuT looks at past climate change events - And echo's many of the views expressed in this blog since April. Some of those views express that this has all happened before, we can't do any thing about it and perhaps should carry on as normal. Many of you offer views akin to "it doesn't matter about the root cause....we must tackle it". And more of you still say the causes are a direct result of our activity and we must and should address this problem.

In this programme you will hear very strong views from some of the most qualified and considered specialists alive today. A core message is that climate change has happened before...we all sorts of planetary reasons ...but not many led to mass extinction events. Life adapted, evolved, moved - habitats changed and so forth.

A key message tonight is past climate change events which have led to mass extinctions have happened in concert with other "nasties": acid rain, violent temperature swings, vile chemical out pourings.

The fear it seems today is this current episode of global warming with the associated changes in climate is working whether we like it or not together with our over exploitation of natural resources and destruction of natural habitat through extraction of resources, development and waste fall out.

So whether we believe climate change is only planet, plant and us or only us...dealing with the other nasties by developing sustainable futures and treating waste as nothing short of a sin is crucial. As you'll hear in todays programme, climate change doesn't create the killing effect on its own.

So, was there lots of rubbish in your Christmas?

In the next blog...community..and the olive branch it offers all of us.

Update:

Listen again to programme 6: The Planets and the Irascible Ape

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Julian,

I fear you may suffer from dyslexia! Never mind, and please don't be irascible (easily angered) by it.

As to 'community', a couple of observations:

Community isn't a sentiment. It has to do with necessity, with people needing each other. If you allow the larger industrial system to remove the pattern of needs, which is the force holding people together, you lose the community.
--Wendell Berry

and


One basic weakness in a conservation system based wholly on economic motives is that most members of the land community have no economic value. Wildflowers and songbirds are examples.

Of the 22,000 higher plants and animals native to Wisconsin, it is doubtful whether more than 5 percent can be sold, fed, eaten, or otherwise put to economic use. Yet these creatures are members of the biotic community, and if (as I believe) its stability depends on its integrity they are entitled to continuance.
--Aldo Leopold

Happy New Year (to the entire community)
xx
ed

Aoccdrnig to rscheearch at Txes M&A Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be in the rghit pclae. The rset can be a total mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit a porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe.
-Pat Hayes, Aggeis Don't Spel Goud? [spelling and the brain]

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On the other hand, if the Ape were erasable,

erase verb (erased, erasing) 1 to rub out (pencil marks, etc). 2 to remove all trace of something. 3 to destroy (a recording) on audio or video tape. erasable adj. eraser noun something that erases, especially a rubber for removing pencil or ink marks. erasure noun 1 the act of rubbing out. 2 a place where something written has been erased. ETYMOLOGY: 17c: from Latin eradere, erasum to scratch out.

That might be promising from the planet's viewpoint....
xx
ed

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OK I've just listened. I'm afraid that I think you are seriously running the risk of losing the plot - either via your own academic obsessions with the niceties of the biological and geological models, or by boring us stupid in the process, or both.
The Fiji thing was OK, but what were you trying to say!? If you are suggesting that this is an example of what will happen globally - and soon - then why don't you say so.
I said in a previous blog that I'd reserve judgement in your claim that you would respond to what people were saying. Frankly the jury is still out as it appears that the Taboo still reigns at the BBC.
It also left too many questions hanging. For example, what does it take to destabalise the locked methane?
I think you are also trying to tell us that the science indicates that this problem should no-longer be treated as an academic exercise. I'd suggest therefore that you need to try harder to act on what your attempting to say i.e. we need to take action, and the root cause is overpopulation combined with abuse of resources.

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  • 4.
  • At 10:26 PM on 01 Jan 2007,
  • sarah fotheringham wrote:

Haveing never used'blogs'before or done odd things like talk to people on this machine, it seems i am needing to get into it before the world does melt down.

My only comment is..it is happening, we are contributing to it, and massively so, I want to do something to stop it and only have qualifications in people skills not science...where do I go to get the real facts, and what should me and a bunch of middle aged educated friends with time, energy and commitment do to contribute to changeing this state?

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Sara,

It's a dilemma. The simplest thing we can all do is to be conscious and refrain from destructive practices whenever possible. One of the most clear-minded writers I know is Wendell Berry, and readers of this blog will be tired of links to him, but here's another, and, perhaps the best:


"A change of heart or of values without a practice is only another
pointless luxury of a passively consumptive way of life."
-- Wendell Berry in "The Idea of a Local Economy"

http://www.oriononline.org
is an uplifting source.

Vaya con Gaia
ed

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  • 6.
  • At 08:20 PM on 02 Jan 2007,
  • sarah fotheringham wrote:

thanks...and that quote does also twist in the gut a little.
I will pursue it. Is it useful to put down what I am doing on here?

( are those other bits written by the chap who puts this together?)

Just to say there is a hopelessness about many people in terms of believing that they have very little power to do anything. The political porcess being so slow and the Zeitgiest of the current climate being as it is. If people feel they can change things then they have a go...maybe some of us can work on that aspect. I do not want to 'normalise' this whole climate change in my life and start looking for higher ground to live on and a gun to shoot passing animals as some people have suggested....

(If you can follow any of that. rant over.)

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Sarah,

It does bite a bit in pointing up our hand-wringing hypocrisy, don't it?

As to what we can actually do, the link here, provided earlier has a list somewhere two/thirds along, which describes the characteristics of what we need to work towards...and a bit of what we've lost

In hope that we can begin to act as we must and as most of us believe we should. And perhaps it's worth noting that my hands are as dirty as any, and like Mrs MacBeth, it's damned hard work washing them.

xx
ed

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Dear Sarah,
I think the answer to both initial questions is 'yes'. I don't think your comments are a rant. With 'normalise' you use a good word (hopefully Ed will provide some more definitions). I believe, that institions such as the BBC have a duty to be more forthright with their message in order to help reverse the mass attitude you are referring to.

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Happy New Year.

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  • 10.
  • At 08:41 PM on 26 Jan 2007,
  • Spir-An wrote:

The Listen Again link has "ht" missed off the beginning of its URL.

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  • 11.
  • At 05:54 AM on 10 Apr 2007,
  • JohnEDPMalin wrote:

To the Group:

Many of you have hit on the root cause of climatic weather shifting patterns: human primate population density!

Filter the Four Laws of Thermodynamics through the various ecological landscapes on our rather small, insignificant planet Earth, and you will yield the quantity of 1.5 billion humans as the sustainable amount our biologic systems can support.

With 6.4 billion of us [80% humans living wretched, short, brutish and horrible lives], the solution to climate change is the decimation of 4.9 billion of us.

How can this decimation be achieved? Pestilence, Warcraft, Famine (starvation), or alteration of our aerial gaseous composition (suffocation); or, shall we be more fortunate to have an incident of excessive super-volcanism, or a big rock hit our small planet from outer space.

In any event, decimation of this vulgar human population excess will occur. It will not be one event but a series of events that will transpire over a fairly quick time frame.

We humans lack the necessary intelligence, instinct and imagination to solve global climate change. Our genetic programs are wired to eat, to sex and to die. It is the shameless, vulgar kleptocracies of our religious systems, political systems and military systems that prevent us from working collaboratively to solve this rather nasty, untidy distinctively human problem.


Respectfully,


John E.D.P. Malin, Esq., M.A.
Cecilia, Louisiana, U.S.A.

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