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Millwall and Swindon eye promotion prize

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Paul Fletcher | 06:00 UK time, Wednesday, 19 May 2010

At the New Den.

Both Millwall and Swindon tantalisingly occupied the second automatic promotion spot in League One at different moments during their match at the New Den on the final day of the season.

The as-it-stands table also had Charlton briefly in second, but in the end Leeds came from behind to defeat Bristol Rovers to reclaim the position in which they had started the day and secure a place in the Championship for next season.

However, the same prize is still on offer for Millwall and Swindon after they came through play-off semi-final ties to set-up an intriguing battle for the final League One promotion spot at Wembley on 29 May.

Millwall, who finished the season in third place, were good value for their 2-0 aggregate victory over Huddersfield Town, while Swindon defeated Charlton on penalties after their tie had finished 3-3 on aggregate.

Kenny Jackett's Lions kept successive clean sheets against a Town side that had scored more than 100 goals in all competitions and sealed their passage to Wembley with a comfortable victory at the New Den on Tuesday.

"We had injuries at the start of the campaign but we have hung in there," said Jackett, whose team have only lost three times since the turn of the year to bounce back from the disappointment of defeat by Scunthorpe in last season's play-off final.

"We wanted to progress after last year and have done that with our play on the ball and goal scoring."

Neal Trotman and Steve Morison Steve Morison (right) turns away from Neal Trotman during Millwall's second leg victory

There was no greater example of that on Tuesday evening than striker Steve Morison, who struck the 23rd goal of a very successful first campaign at this level after joining from Stevenage last summer.

Morison, a no-nonsense individual, ensured a torrid night for Town's central defensive pairing of Neal Trotman and Peter Clarke with his willingness to search out space in wide areas and drive towards the byeline.

His play epitomised the endeavour and verve that Millwall showed in front of a fantastic atmosphere at the New Den, yet earlier in the campaign he struggled for form and was the subject of abuse from a certain section of supporters.

The low point came when Morison missed what he describes as an absolute sitter close to the goal-line in an FA Cup tie at Staines in late November.

Listening to Morison after Tuesday's game, it was obvious that he still could not understand how he failed to tuck that chance away but Jackett kept faith in his striker, who scored an injury-time winner against MK Dons in Millwall's next fixture and has not looked back since.

Morison has won twice at Wembley in the FA Trophy and is now determined to help Millwall end a sequence of six straight play-off failures, while Huddersfield are left to reflect on a tie in which they woefully under-performed.

"We have some good young players but maybe I have more belief in them than they have in themselves," said manager Lee Clark afterwards.

"But we did not get done by a lack of passion, commitment or desire."

In the dejected away dressing room, Clark reminded his young team that he was a member of the Sunderland side that lost the 1998 Division One play-off final against Charlton on a penalty shoot-out after a 4-4 draw.

"We dusted ourselves down and went on to smash all sorts of records the following season," added Clark, recalling the Black Cats team that won the title with 105 points and a goal difference of +63 in 1998-99.

Putting a positive spin on their defeat, Huddersfield have a wealthy and committed owner in Dean Hoyle and a talented young squad that should ultimately benefit from the experience of this play-off campaign.

The situation is less stable at Charlton - and it is difficult to calculate the price of Nicky Bailey's penalty miss on Monday evening.

Addicks chairman Richard Murray observed before the second-leg against Swindon that it was "a hugely important game for the club" - bland words on the face of it, but the context surrounding the encounter suggests otherwise.

His comments are open to interpretation but the fact that the club sold the influential and highly promising teenager Jonjo Shelvey to Liverpool at the end of April, a time when the club's promotion hopes still hung in the balance, hinted at severe financial problems. Subsequent reports suggested the proceeds of the sale would be used to merely cover the club's wage bill over the summer months.

The south London side had suffered two relegations in the previous three seasons. They managed just eight league wins last season and finished bottom of the Championship after a campaign of almost unremitting misery.

Six straight wins with an unchanged side at the start of the current season suggested a change in fortune but Charlton will be spending at least one more season in the third tier of English football, while many fans are already expecting the current squad to be decimated by a combination of cost-cutting measures.

Swindon fans celebrate after their team reached the play-off final Swindon fans celebrate after their side clinched a place at Wembley

I imagine most people connected with the club will have woken on Tuesday still wondering how they failed to reach the final. The Addicks might have trailed 2-1 after the first leg at Swindon but they deservedly led 2-0 at the break at The Valley and should have gone on to win the tie.

Charlton had 20 shots on target and repeatedly bruised the woodwork but poor finishing, tough luck and good goalkeeping ensured the match went the distance.

Bailey is a Charlton supporter and his devastation was clear for all to see as he was helped off the field by two team-mates.

It was the midfielder's awful pass that started the break that led to Swindon's goal and his was the only penalty of the 10 taken that failed to find the back of the net.

I don't often feel sympathy for a footballer but I did for him as he buried his face in his shirt. He is a fine, determined player who can be proud of his efforts this season.

Charlton's pain was Swindon's ecstasy - and the Wiltshire club's amazing season now goes the full distance. They were the better side in the first leg at the County Ground but slightly fortunate at Charlton.

Striker Billy Paynter was clearly not match fit and Danny Wilson's team were generally so poor in the opening half that the manager asked his players at the break whether they were going to so tamely surrender the opportunity they had worked so hard all season to create.

The Robins showed the mental grit and desire to find an equaliser at time when they trailed 2-0 on the night and were down to 10 men following the dismissal of skipper Gordon Greer.

All five of their penalties spoke of bottle and composure and in Charlie Austin, Danny Ward and Vincent Pericard have plenty of artillery even if Paynter is below par.

Now they head for Wembey to take on Millwall - their recent match agaianst the Lions having ended in a 3-2 defeat, while the contest at the County Ground earlier in the season finished in a 1-1 draw.

An interesting aspect of the final is that Morison and Austin, who joined Swindon from Poole Town, have both emerged as key players for their respective clubs after breakthrough seasons following a move from non-league football.

But, barring an unexpected summer development, only one of them will have the chance to see whether they can cut it in the Championship when the new campaign kicks off.

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Comments

  • Comment number 1.

    Great Blog - would love to see Swindon get promoted again

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  • Comment number 2.

    I fancy Millwall to take the final promotion place if I am honest but it's sure to be a good game whichever way it goes.

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  • Comment number 3.

    Come on the Town. We were great from the second half at The Valley on Monday night, it was an epic atmosphere and I was proud to be there. Lets step it up again and beat Millwall, we can do it. After all we are unbeaten at Wembley.

  • Comment number 4.

    All this user's posts have been removed.Why?

  • Comment number 5.

    I really want to see Swindon gain promotion because of Danny Wilson. He is a great manager who really hasn't had the credit he deserves throughout his career.

    Also the character of the Swindon side to find a goal when down to ten man showed real determination.

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  • Comment number 6.

    Now then - congratulations to both Swindon and Millwall. Any thoughts on who you think will win the final?

    I would be very interested to hear from any Charlton fans as to what they think the future holds for their club?

    And Huddersfield supporters - despite the disappointment of Tuesday evening, do you regard the season as a success? And have you been impressed with Lee Clark?

  • Comment number 7.

    Average write up on what has been an interesting set of play off matches. As a Town fan I'm disappointed that Paul focussed so heavily on the second leg, as us Town fans were left wondering how we only ended one up after the first leg.

    Having said that we were truly awful on Monday in the first half, however I think the second half grit and determination showed by the lads (especially when we went down to 10 men) meant we deserved to only lose by the odd goal. In fact Charlie and Danny W were desperately unlucky not to equalise late on. I appreciate Charlton fans will feel hard done by though, we know how bad it feels to lose a semi on penalties, 2004 is fresh in the mind of many a Swindon supporter.

    Anyway enough of history, time to look to the future. I'm never the most confident of supporters but I have pretty much everything crossed for the final. Tickets have been ordered, transport arranged. Come on you reds, we've waited a long time for this, be great to get back into the second tier of the pyramid.

    Good luck to Millwall too though, as I think they deserve to be in the final, they've had a cracking season.

  • Comment number 8.

    A lot of Charlton fans are somewhat surprised that it's being reported that Nicky Bailey is a Charlton fan. Where has this come from? I think most of us are under the impression that he is a Fulham fan.

    Bailey had a nightmare on Monday, and it's a shame that that's the last we'll see of him in a Charlton shirt.

    Congrats to Swindon and Millwall for reaching the final.

  • Comment number 9.

    As a Leeds United supporter I'm just pleased its not us involved but given a choice of who should go it its difficult. The one thing that stops me pitching for Millwall is the knowledge that a trip to the New Den will be the usual rights free zone of idiocy and OTT policing.

  • Comment number 10.

    I was at school with Steve Morison - was always a very good schoolboy footballer, who has worked his way up through the leagues, scoring buckets of goals along the way. Pleased to see a London club doing well!

  • Comment number 11.

    Raef barnes (post 7) - I'm sorry you feel that way. Certainly not my intention to play down Swindon's achievements. I did say the Robins were the better team in the first leg. Be honest though - do you not think Charlton should have gone on to win at 2-0 up and with your team down to 10 players?

    dabos83 (post 8) - I might have to hold my hands up here. I was told by someone at the club that he was a fan of the Addicks and subsequent research did not suggest otherwise. He obviously wasn't taking to the press on Monday so I could not ask him directly. Perhaps he is someone who is a fan of several clubs, or who at least says he is when asked. If it is Fulham then I can only apologise.

    mally (post 10) - What was he like? He seemed like quite a confident bloke when he spoke to the press on Tuesday. I was certainly very impressed with his performance.

  • Comment number 12.

    Paul, are you Chris Kamara in disguise?

    Why is there this point of view in the media that somehow Swindon are lucky or fortunate? As post 7 says, we should have won the first leg 4 or 5 nil but due to poor finishing and a good keeper we didn't and Charlton were fortunate to score the goal they did. Long punt, keeper flouts and whilst Burton was brave it was more by luck than design that it went in.

    Yes we rode our 'luck' in the second leg but in your article swap the words Swindon and Charlton around, along with 1st & 2nd leg and the blog still makes for an accurate description.

    Let's hope that when we beat Milwall that we get the credit we deserve.

  • Comment number 13.

    You just beat me to it there Paul!

    If Carlton 'should' have gone on to win with us 2 down and ten men they would have done. Accept that we had the required grit, character and determination to get one back take it to penalties. As every Swindon fan knows, like England, we don't do shoot outs!

  • Comment number 14.

    Charlton are a London team who were in the Premier League not so long ago so expect some bias towards them from BBC. Everyone including myself who was at the County Ground on Friday night knows we should of been out of sight by the time those 90 minutes were up. We had a poor first half at The Valley on Monday evening but thoroughly deserved to go through, no one including BBC journalists with pro-London agendas can take that away from us.

    People will write us off for the final but I'm sure we have more of the neutral support than Millwall do. Come on the Town, we can do it.

  • Comment number 15.

    Paul - no worries, you could be right. We've been speculating on the forums about whether he is a Charlton fan since it suddenly appeared in several newspaper reports in the aftermath of our playoff defeat.

    @12 by magnum150

    You are right in as much as the legs were reversals in terms of who dominated. But we were 3-2 up on aggregate with 15 minutes to go with a man advantage. Surely you can see how it can be interpreted that we threw it away.

  • Comment number 16.

    magnum150 and Pulp Grape - I really must come out to try to mount some sort of case for the defence.

    This London bias line, if only you knew me......

    I've been tracking Swindon for some time and had a long chat with Andrew Fitton earlier in the year and was very impressed with his attitude and ambition.

    I also wrote a piece about Charlie Austin...

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/paulfletcher/2010/02/the_story_of_swindons_scoring.html

    I will be at the final at Wembley and I will call it as I see it. As always, I'd love it if you read my piece afterwards and let me know whether you thought I'd been balanced.

  • Comment number 17.

    I think us Town fans may be taking a couple of months frustration out on Paul here a little. As we have been on the whole ignored by the media. Sky seem to prefer to focus on Millwall, Charlton & Leeds in the race for second. This very site didn't even have a Swindon related play off story until last Thursday afternoon, and in a League One slot on Talksport Adrian whateverhisname stated on the last but on day of the season "Only Millwall can catch Leeds". So funny how the as it stands table has Town and Charlton in 2nd at some stage of the final afternoon of the season.

    Still this media black out has served us well. I suppose as a "small club" we should expect to be in the shadows but Danny Wilson and the board have done an absolutely amazing job, we have travelled light years since our new owners came to the CG. How Wilson hasn't been given the recognition he deserves is beyond me, on the resources available to him he's the L1 manager of the year for me, win or lose next Saturday.

  • Comment number 18.

    Paul

    Wasn't pointing the finger at you, I'm speaking in general terms. The match report implied that we got away with a smash and grab penalty victory and while I think your article here does credit our victory, you have focused more on Charlton losing rather than Swindon winning. I read and enjoyed your article on Charlie Austin (you'll see comments from me on there) and also the article that appeared about our League Cup final victory over Arsenal all those years ago.

    My point is that the general consensus says we were lucky but that won't affect how we go into the final.

  • Comment number 19.

    The feeling at Millwall this season really has been that despite the superstition about the play-offs, the dreadful record, and the agony of last seasons defeat, that in this set of four Jackett has the most capable set of players, and probably the best team as well, and despite all the worries, realistically they had to be favourites. The head is still saying this, especially now there isn't a derby at Wembley against Charlton, but doesn't mean the heart is totally there yet!

  • Comment number 20.

    Ignore the Swindon fans Paul, it is good see a well written blog on league one football. Even their manager (whom conducted himself very well on the night) said that lady luck was on their side.
    How we lost the game is gutting from dominating for the majority of the match and as for the comment on could have been 5 nil at the county ground well could have been 12 nil at The Valley my friend.
    Still think that it is Millwalls final to lose on May 29th. What with their skipper being banned for a kung fu style kick on Burton and an out of sorts striker. Although must say was very impressed with their player Danny Ward thought he looked a threat when attacking and took the goal well.
    As for the future of Charlton will have to see will most likely be a firesale of players in the summer to help ease our well documented debt. So hoping that some of our youngsters can make the step up like Scott Wagstaff has and then keeping hold of experienced heads in Christian Dailly and Frazer Richardson.

  • Comment number 21.

    As a Swindon fan, I'd definitely agree with the posts above regarding national media coverage, i.e. lack of focus on us and recognition of Town throughout this season. Straight after the Millwall and Huddersfield game last night, the Sky presenter couldn't wait to install Millwall as the clear favourites, before backtracking a bit, but by no means is this a done deal for Millwall.

    It's a neutral ground and there will be 30 odd thousand fans each, so it will be much closer than many will like to believe. Of course we will go into the final with the under-dog tag, but I know that Danny and the squad don't really believe that. We have proven we can be a match for anyone this season.... well....apart from Bristol Rovers ;). So Come on You Reds!

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  • Comment number 22.

    Now I know how Scunthorpe fans might have felt when they beat Millwall in the Play-Offs last year. Oh dear, they shouldn't have won. Millwall beat Leeds in the semi-final and they're a bigger club from London and, and...

    Swindon beating Charlton the other night just wasn't politically correct. The Addicks have so much more to lose. They we're a Premier League club only last week blah, blah, blah.

    Well, we Swindon fans have been in the doldrums for quite a while now so it's our turn to go back on a march and this team is as good as any in League One this year. If we lose I'll be as disappointed as any Charlton fan was on Monday. There will be no 'oh well, we've had a good run' nonsense from me. I've had enough of the third division.

  • Comment number 23.

    Whichever team goes up, is it fair to say that they will be pre-season favourites for relegation? The Championship is becoming a harder prospect each season, with a glut of former Premiership sides and the existing teams strengthening. Good luck to all, but after watching the play-offs, my money would be on a swift return for whichever side wins at Wembley.
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  • Comment number 24.

    As a despondent Charlton fan I congratulate Swindon on getting to Wembley and hope they stuff Millwall, for obvious reasons.

    I would say there was very little to choose between Charlton and Swindon, not just over the two legs, where each team dominated the home leg, but also during the season - the two draws in the league prove this. Where Swindon had the edge over Charlton was in having two very decent goal scorers and being able to hold their nerve.

    Where does this leave Charlton? I expect a mass exodus of players over the summer, meaning we have little hope of being anywhere near promotion next season, as they will be replaced by very eager, but not as talented, academy graduates. I do fear for this club's future - but then they said that in 1984, and look what has happened since then.

  • Comment number 25.

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  • Comment number 26.

    Surely any group of people that smashes Hull up is making improvements to the city?

  • Comment number 27.

    I wonder if we will read more about this apparent media blackout of Swindon in the next feature on them in 4-4-2 magazine :)

    Ive been following Swindon's results from afar from many years and am delighted to see them in the play-off final. As a few of their fans have already pointed out they might have been a little fortunate at the Valley but they were unlucky to have emerged from the first leg with just a one goal lead. Good luck to the Robins at Wembley.

  • Comment number 28.

    As a HTFC fan i have good reason to be optomistic about next season, we have the makings of a good young squad and i think Lee Clarke is a good manager at this level. Peter Clarke was a great signing and Novak (Our carpets are dirty) is looking like he can be a 20 plus goals a season man.

    On a more negative note i really hope we dont sign Trotman on a permanent basis, he reminds me of a poor Titus Bramble at times, a lumbering Oaf. Also i was a little bit dissapointed with the long ball tactics we adopted on Saturdays home leg against Milwall, when we have clearly shown in patches this season we can play good attacking football on the deck. that said they outclassed us last night and deserved their win.

    UTT next season.

  • Comment number 29.

    I agree with post 24. Spot on really, both teams able to use their "12th man" on the night.
    Whilst people still argue that Swindon haven't been in the media spotlight much, we've had plenty of good press this year with the articles on Charlie Austin, '69 League Cup victory etc. A stark contrast to previous seasons where Swindon are barely noticed.
    Swindon have proved a good example of a well run club, chairman making all the right decisions at the top, with all of the results now following.
    Nothing wrong with being the underdogs for the next weekend... Just means you win more money if you bet on Swindon.

  • Comment number 30.

    Millwall will be slight favourites for the final, after all we did finish above Swindon and have a better head to head record 3-2 at home, 1-1 away

    The final will be a tight match and I feel/hope wall will win it 2-1

    Last years loss was hard to take but not unexpected as Scunthorpe had the beating of us twice in the League.

    With Swindon's captain banned and our players in familiar surroundings, fingers crossed we can finally break the curse of the playoffs ( currently 2 wins out of 13 ) and it will be 6th time lucky for Millwall and 3rd time lucky for Kenny Jackett in a playoff final.

  • Comment number 31.

    Paul

    I'm a Charlton fan who is still utterly crestfallen.

    As far as I can see, an axe is going to be taken to our squad and we will be a team of young players and Liverpool rejects.

    Our board tells us nothing, so I can only assume that we are in deepest financial doo doo.

    Players going in my opinion -

    Darren Randolph
    Kelly Youga
    Lloyd Sam
    Nicky Bailey
    Jose Semedo
    Therry Racon
    Deon Burton

    plus all those who are out of contract.

    To be honest, if offers are made for any of our players, i'm sure our board will consider them.

    Next season we will be mid table at best.

  • Comment number 32.

    When the play-off line up was confirmed, I reckoned that the winner of the Millwall/Huddersfield semi would go up.

    I'm hardly neutral, (Lions fan here) but I'm thinking we'll edge it in the end. The only problem is that we bottled it last season, putting on our best performance at Elland Road, and not troubling S****horpe in the second half.

    If we get an open expansive game, Millwall should win.

    That said, anything could happen, and that's why we all love football so much.

    Was annoyed that Charlton couldn't make it. Not only would it be a great day for this corner of SE London, but a much easier game for us...

  • Comment number 33.

    fivegoldstars (post 23) - a wind-up surely?

    Swindon fans - I'm sure that if the Robins defeat Millwall then plenty of media attention will come your way. At the very least, I'll be writing about them.

    I can understand Lions fans feeling cautiously optimistic but Swindon showed that they have plenty of guts on Monday.

    I'm not surprised to see that Huddersfield fans feel more upbeat than their Charlton counterparts. The thoughts of Christian_Dailly_Religious_Magazine (post 31) make depressing reading.

  • Comment number 34.

    Swindon' record in play-off finals, is like their Wembley record...Played 3, Won 3, whilst Millwall have never won one.

    Swindon will be underdogs, which will suit us down to the ground. In the home game against Millwall we should've been at least a couple up, when Douglas was harshly sent off after half an hour and it took a late equaliser to get a point, and since then we have improved a lot.

    Greer will be a loss but we have other players to come in, whilst the breaking news is that Lucas should be fit to play despite going off in the first minute at Charlton.

    Hopefully we will continue our winning ways at Wembley, as it will be a reward for our owners who have changed the club for the better, and it will be a fairy tale ending for Charlie Austin.

    By the way, I would like to commiserate to Charlton fans. We lost at Brighton on pens in 2004,despite dominating both legs, so we know what you're going through.

  • Comment number 35.

    Good blog Paul.

    Not sure how Swindon fans can criticise the lack of media exposure they are getting though - all we hear about on the Football League Show is what a great buy Charlie Austin was. Steve Morison hardly gets a look in.
    I am looking forward to this game much more than last years. Scunny beat us twice in the league last season and were better than us if I am honest. This year we have improved a great deal, and the additions of Ward, schofield, Batt, Morison and Trotter have made us a much better team physically and experience wise. We are well equiped to cope with the Swindon long-ball game that Danny Wilson has had them playing this season. May the best team win as long as they habe blue shirts on!

  • Comment number 36.

    To Lovely_Geezer,

    Long Ball game? We like to get the ball down on the ground and play football we aren't a long ball team and if we played long ball at your place on the final day it was because Wilson wasn't giving anything away, We knew Leeds' would win their game so we never thought we would get automatic anyway.

    Plus don't forget we scored a goal for you in that 3-2 defeat plus we gave away a stupid penalty and your other goal was deflected, It will be a totally different game at Wembley with you lot being away from The Den.

    We are very dangerous going forward with Ward, McGovern, Austin & Paynter all being quality players and with Douglas in the middle i think we have a good chance if we play to our potential.

  • Comment number 37.

    Please please please win Swindon.

    I don't support Swindon, i just hate Millwall.

  • Comment number 38.

    Sorry Lovely_Geezer, you obviously haven't watched Swindon at all this season. Long ball game? Idiot.

  • Comment number 39.

    As a Millwall supporter living abroad in Italy I watched tantalizingly from afar last year as they narrowly missed out. I'm sure they won't do again and next time I back home in the UK I'll be watching the Lions roar in the Championship!

  • Comment number 40.

    ForeverRed - funny how you try to justify how Millwall scored but don't justify a fluffed goalpost clearance by our player eh? As for the penalty what was stupid about it and after all we still had to score from the spot.

    Selective memory but that doesn't matter as it's what is done at Wembley that counts and past performances are no indication of the future. Last year we sorely missed a player named Henry from Reading who was a big reason for us being at Wembley. This year our squad is stronger than last and not being beaten during the season by our opposition (unlike Scunthorpe) is a positive step. Just hope our players are all fit and in form!

    COYL

  • Comment number 41.

    I have to agree with the posts on an apparent media black out on Swindon, the Sun newspaper ran a play-off special this week and the only mention in the full page article of Swindon was "Milwall will play Swindon......." that was it, the rest was interviews with Milwall players, fans and the journalists opinion on their chances. Add that to a season of one paragraph match reports, even both the 3-0 lessons given to Leeds and you have to wonder what we've done wrong.

    As for us being lucky, thats almost laughable, on that basis were Charlton not "lucky" to equalise with us in the 93rd & 94th minute of both our league encounters, four points that may have sent us up automaticly sparing Charlton the agony of penalties against us. Were they "unlucky" to have Llera sent off for rugby tackling Austin to the floor when he was clear on goal, a goal that could have won us the match in 90 minutes? Or are we just ignoring these facts for convenience?

  • Comment number 42.

    Pulpgrape wrote

    "Sorry Lovely_Geezer, you obviously haven't watched Swindon at all this season. Long ball game? Signed Pulpgrape the Idiot.

    Actually seen them twice - first game I wondered why all the Swindon fans were using binoculars, then pre-game the tannoy blasted out "hoof, there it is" The game at the New Den would have been worse, but the ref warned Wilson before the match about the "Ash Cloud". Even still Swindon were leathering it all game!! Hopefully you will not adopt this tactic at Wembley!!

  • Comment number 43.

    So you're basing this theory of yours on 2 games out of 55 for the season? When Swindon were home to Millwall we went down to 10 men after 27mins thanks to Abdou writhing in agony on the floor only to get up unhurt after the red card came out. So obviously losing an influential midfielder didn't help our cause. The New Den is an intimidating place to go, I'm guessing alot of teams find it hard to play their normal game there.
    It has been widely noticed by pundits/fans that Swindon play a good style of football, and it should be a great game for the fans/neutrals this weekend.

  • Comment number 44.

    "When Swindon were home to Millwall we went down to 10 men after 27mins thanks to Abdou writhing in agony on the floor only to get up unhurt after the red card came out. So obviously losing an influential midfielder didn't help our cause."

    And your point is what? Frampton got sent off after 64 minutes and you still persisted with the hoof - you were very lucky to get a point that game!

  • Comment number 45.

    You ought to think before you speak, my point wasn't that we were down to 10 men, it was that Douglas is an influential CM, he is a key part of the way we play football. We were half the team back then, no Paynter, Austin, Ward and Sheenan.
    If you like to believe that Swindon play hoofball then be my guest, you're just making an idiot out of yourself because we have been widely acknowledged as a good footballing side.

  • Comment number 46.

    Fair enough Simon - you have a very apt name by the way - did you meet the pieman?
    So at The New Den a couple of weeks ago, when all the players that you mentioned DID play, why were you still playing hoofball? Maybe you only played it the 2 times you played us, but that's all I have to go on - but you keep the insults going!!

  • Comment number 47.

    You're not very clever really, anyone who could read would already notice that I put the New Den is a tough place to go and I'm guessing that alot of teams find it hard to play their normal game.
    Did you see Chelsea play away against Wigan? They performed really badly that game so that means they must be a terrible side who can't play well(!!!)
    I've made my point, you've made yours. Enjoy your day out at Wembley.

  • Comment number 48.

    "You're not very clever really"

    There you go again with the insults - it really is a sign of weakness you know!

    Enjoy your day at Wembely too - may the best team win!

  • Comment number 49.

    ...And calling me simple is not an insult?

    May the best team win indeed.

  • Comment number 50.

    If you two don't behave i'm turning this web site around and they'll be no ice cream!!
    One more thing, Swindon Town 3 Leeds United 0, Leeds United 0 Swindon Town 3, we both took 6 points off the Northern monkeys this season, but i'm willing to bet we did it with more style!!

  • Comment number 51.

    Good take on things here. Looking at Swindon I notice they have at least 2 loan players from Premiership clubs. This is very unusual at this level and suggests Swindon are probably one of the best funded clubs in this league. I think they overplay the underdog tag.

  • Comment number 52.

    I can safely say that the best footballing side were the worthy winners!!

 

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