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The guards outside the abandoned Olympic venues in Athens were not happy when we turned up with our camera.

It's pretty depressing for the organisers of the 2004 Games to see some of the arenas, which they built with pride, now covered in weeds and locked away behind high fences. It is costing more than £1m a month just to keep them maintained.

Four years on from the Games, this is an Olympic tour the big cheeses in the International Olympic Committee are not taken on.

It's a shame because what has happened in Greece is a sobering reminder to London 2012 of the dangers of not getting all the legacy plans in place before the show even hits town.

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The taekwondo, wrestling and sailing venues around Athens look well designed but they are simply not being used by the public regularly. The weeds are growing high at the sailing venue. This isn't what they mean when they talk about "Green Games."

Constantinos Cartalis, a former minister of culture who was responsible for drawing up the legacy plans for Athens, told me he's sad that some of the venues have been turned into shopping malls. He wanted a sporting or cultural legacy for the city.

Now in opposition, he believes the current Greek government has not followed through with the promises he made. There is no overall systematic plan, he believes.

His message to London is: "Get all of your legacy ducks in a row before the Games begin".

The market, he says, doesn't wait for dithering politicians. Although the main Olympic complex is well used, Athens can't find permanent tenants for some of its venues. The momentum of the Games has gone.

London 2012 has still yet to find a tenant for the main stadium in Stratford. There is talk of Leyton Orient or a rugby club like Saracens or Wasps being persuaded to move in.

The government and London 2012 keep saying they are serious about a long-lasting legacy.

But my tour of Athens tells me one thing: London 2012 has to get the commercial or tenancy deals for the arenas signed and sealed well before the opening ceremony.

The danger, if they don't, is a repeat of the Athens scenario.

Adrian Warner is BBC London's Olympics correspondent. Our FAQs should answer any questions you have.


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  • 1. At 1:47pm on 05 Jun 2008, placey1 wrote:

    I went to Athens a couple of years back and was disappointed that the main stadium was closed to the public.
    Having been to Munich's '72 Olympic park, and Real Madrid's stadium tour (among others) , the Greeks are missing a trick, as we would gladly have paid to see where sporting history was made.
    We were able to visit the 1896 track...

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  • 2. At 5:26pm on 05 Jun 2008, jpswathens wrote:

    Not sure where you visited, but your comments dont ring entirly true !

    I live part of the year in Athens and live very close to the olympic Stadium itself. Its always open and is a great place to walk around on a Sunday morning with the kids etc. Same applies to the sailing centre. I have never visited the wrestling or other venues you mention so cant comment but certainly the main stadium is open almost all the time.

    I do agree however that more could be done with such venues and are not used imaginatively however you have to remember that Greeks do not take picnics in the park or take a stroll around the gardens etc, they do coffee !!

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  • 3. At 10:25am on 06 Jun 2008, dazchief wrote:

    Londoners, for once look outside of the M25, up the M6 and you will see a place called Manchester. This held quite a significant sporting event called the Commenwealth Games.

    As a mancunian, I am proud of the legacy that the event has left behind. All venues were well planned and thought through, even the shooting range.... which we had to go to Surrey for, and why ? Because we were pragmatic in our approach, and do not have overblown ego's.

    ! MANCHESTER 2012 !

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