Ken Loach recently said that all movie critics should be sacked and replaced by ‘ordinary punters’. I disagree and here’s why...

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  • Comment number 27. Posted by Brambo

    on 8 Jun 2014 15:25

    Do I listen to critics? Yes - don't we all to some extent?
    Regarding Ken Loach: I've never seen one of his films. Nobody I know has seen one of his films either. As far as I'm concerned, he makes films that nobody wants to go and see, but the same "critics" that Ken is saying don't understand his films love them.
    Most punters go to see the Hollywood blockbuster, not some "kitchen sink drama" about "working class people". That can be seen on the TV every single day.
    Sorry Ken, but maybe you should retire...

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  • Comment number 26. Posted by Mel0dymaker

    on 6 Jun 2014 21:48

    Be careful what you wish for, eh ?

    I consider music to be my favourite art form and I love it. I despise music critics though. I believe this is partly down to the music they critique and the very closed minded nature of the music industry. It may be different elsewhere in the world but in the U.K. it is atrocious.

    If film critics do get culled then ultimately the few survivors will be ever appreciative of Michael Bays genius at not just action and CGI but they will marvel in his ability to make money and ultimately be sewn in Hollywoods pocket.

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  • Comment number 25. Posted by D_A_I_S_Y

    on 6 Jun 2014 20:38

    I suspect most people here would disagree with Ken Loach, because we're all basically here to read the opinions of a professional film critic! I agree with some of the comments above, about the fact that there are poor reviewers and thoughtful/knowledgeable reviewers - though, sometimes those thoughtful reviewers have been known to produce a lazy review now and then. A big problem is when lazy reviewers can't be bothered even watching the film they're reviewing, but just jump on whatever bandwagon they perceive exists by regurgitating other reviews. That's bad. Luckily there are lots of us out here who go to films based on trailers and other spoiler-free bits of info, and wait until we've seen the film before reading the reviews.

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  • Comment number 24. Posted by sigmund fraud

    on 6 Jun 2014 14:06

    "I don't want to go to work today mummy, those mean critics are being all mean and horrid." came the voice from under the duvet.
    " But Ken you like making films about gritty working class life you haven't actually experienced, mother loach Purred, in her most soothing voice, " just tell them really you are doing the same thing in making making your gritty films, you are a bit like the class war people that pronounce it CLarse rather than klass."
    "ok mummy, i feel much better now, I i will go make more films." said a decidedly more pert Ken before skipping off to make a film about a working class family living in a tower block in leeds.

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  • Comment number 23. Posted by Kay

    on 6 Jun 2014 06:32

    If Ken Loach wants to know what will happen when all the expert film critics have been replaced by the ordinary viewing public he only needs to read Camilla Long's reviews in the Sunday Times. What her qualifications for being paid to review films are I have no idea - I suspect no better than mine. The reason I listen to you Mark is that you know a lot more about the subject than I do; I'm not interested in what ordinary Joe - fan of Transformers - thinks, thank you very much.

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  • Comment number 22. Posted by Max Marriott

    on 5 Jun 2014 22:15

    If "ordinary punters" replaced film critics then people like Michael Bay and Adam Sandler would be getting rave reviews whilst more interesting movies might be sniffed at. Not saying all ordinary people are like that, but a good deal of them are. Sadly, a lot of the movie-going public has a bad taste in films. Check iMDB if you don't believe me.
    In my opinion, "ordinary punters" are the reason why Hollywood is afraid of taking risks with their films, because audiences let them get away with it. There's a reason why many of Kubrick's films flopped at the box office and why The Hangover and Transformers got sequels. I'll give you a hint, it wasn't the critics' fault.

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  • Comment number 21. Posted by SamuelSerridge

    on 5 Jun 2014 17:39

    Whether or not I agree with a critics opinion the reason I like listening to critics and Mark in particular is because I have respect for people that give an intelligent, coherent and valid justification for their opinions. If anybody has been on the internet recently you will find that most will have none of the quality's and to be honest that reason alone has given me a loss of faith in 'ordinary punters' and general public opinions.

    One other thing people forget is that critics (the good ones) are an encyclopaedia of film history, I give credit to Mark for all of the references of past films he uses in his reviews from popular blockbusters to the smallest indie and video nastys that span over many decades show that he has seen A LOT of films so frankly it is critics who are the only ones that are going to recognise any original story's in an industry that is now manufacturing countless of films and tv shows.

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  • Comment number 20. Posted by Harry Limes Shadow

    on 4 Jun 2014 20:35

    Ken Loach isn't the first film maker to get sulky because critics gave his movie a rough ride (Kevin Smith, William Nicholson) but Ken has traditionally been a darling of critics. As for the charge that film critics don't understand ordinary people, i think even comrade Kermode would concede that the two most bourgeois professions in the world are film critic and film director.

    Plus i saw Jimmy's Hall over the weekend and apart from a few 'agenda ahoy!' moments and the priest invoking Cromwell without a hint of irony. I found it to be a very even handed in it's depiction of the events and one that understood the motives and reasons on both sides.

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  • Comment number 19. Posted by babyfacemichael

    on 4 Jun 2014 18:03

    When talking critics, I instantly think of`` Theatre of Blood`,and I`m with Lionheart !
    I`m a punter ,but I dont think film makers would like my reviews much ,as I tend to go straight for the jugular.
    Critics reviews make you laugh ( Archipelago) or get angry ( Taken) for their absurd misjudgements , but I exploit them to filter through the garbage to give me gold. There like weathermen, you listen to em, but a bit t of faith in em ,but reality is getting soaked from time to time.

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  • Comment number 18. Posted by Dooljm012

    on 4 Jun 2014 17:59

    While I agree with the need for someone to 'advise' us of whether they think a film is worthy there are too many so called professional critics who don't actually know how to critique a film, maybe that is who Ken is talking about, for every Barry Norman, we have a Claudia Winkleman, for every Mark Kermode we have an Alex Zane, maybe Ken is really talking about the journos who talk about films as opposed to the true critic, the one with a love for good film.

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