Back in the 1980s Friday 13th was lucky for some

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...but in the endlessly revivalist noughties sleaze has lost its innocence.

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  • Comment number 9. Posted by munionism

    on 8 Mar 2009 21:48

    Thing is, for all of us who have seen the originals, its not gonna bring anything new and franky is just going to be boring.
    For those who have never seen the franchise, it looks too clean.. thats it.

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  • Comment number 8. Posted by abbyoyo

    on 28 Feb 2009 06:39

    Dr. K, I could hug you. Thank you for validating my line of thinking on horror movie remakes (and new horror). Not novel, not original, can in no way improve upon the old stuff because what made the old stuff good can't be replicated. I've had this mulling around in my brain for quite some time, so it's nice to hear a professional say it!

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  • Comment number 7. Posted by Chris Scott

    on 25 Feb 2009 21:30

    Jason X was the last nail in the coffin for this series, not because it's dreadful - I'm very fond of it - but because it switched genres. All it could do was parody the slasher tropes, like the lumbering killer and willfully naive victims ("It's okay, he just wanted his machete back!").

    Nightmare on Elm Street had a pseudo-switch into postmodernity, but the only comparable example I can think of are the Child's Play/Chucky movies. 3 increasingly turgid films in, the series transformed with Bride of Chucky, which made the frank admission to the audience: "Chucky isn't scary, so let's have some fun instead." The result, I feel, was the best comic horror since Evil Dead 2. Of course, like all jokes, they couldn't tell it successfully a second time. The series was dead.

    My biggest problem with Jason (ironic, given his stomping-ground) is that he is camp, rather than frightening. Maybe you're right and it's time and familiarity that has made him so, but there's no escaping it: loosening his joints and making Jason run isn't enough to make him interesting. Jason X pointed out all that was stale with the series, and it's almost perverse how much the new film goes out of its way to back it up.

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  • Comment number 6. Posted by krn

    on 25 Feb 2009 19:57

    oh and Mark!!!
    what do you think about the forthcoming remake of The Last House on the Left.
    I assure you the trailer looks ABYSMAL and only gives a sickening premonition of what's to come of this POINTLESS MONSTROSITY.
    This whole remake thing has gone too far!
    What next... The Exorcist!!!

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  • Comment number 5. Posted by RobertHolloway

    on 25 Feb 2009 16:28

    Hi Mark

    Shake of the fist!

    I think your argument in the video about the reason we liked Friday 13th is revisionist.

    When the original film came out there was no real violence on TV (like 24), no violent video games and no steady stream of PG13 gore porn.

    I remember being genuinely excited to see what nasty concoction would be placed before me. It was a sort of dare to see if you could deal with it.

    In addition, by 1980 Hammer, Amicus and AIP were long distant memories so we were ready for the next cycle.

    Love these videos.
    Rob Holloway
    all the way from the USofA

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  • Comment number 4. Posted by STORMYFWEATHERS

    on 25 Feb 2009 15:05

    I would say the main difference and the reason 80's slashers hit home more is easy....

    ....it's all to do with the effects. C.G.I is no match for good old fashioned latex and strawberry syrup sprayed through garde3n sprayers.

    Even though these effects were at times rather rubbery (even Savini's work at times). They were suitably grungy for the subject matter. Real violence is kind of messy and unglamorous. Not flashy and fast.

    I mean look at the exploding head in maniac......now that's how a great special effect made rather simply.

    Even the old troma (shudder) trick of hollowing out a melon and filling it full of burger meat and fake blood looks great compared to the exploding/crushed heads you see in movies these days.

    This flashy editing/endless cuts trend that has been in vogue since the advent of digital just does not work in setting a sombre menacing tone either. Most horror movies these days look like MTV videos and trick the viewer into believing that they are seeing something much worse than what's on screen.

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  • Comment number 3. Posted by krn

    on 24 Feb 2009 16:55

    The marketers were replicating the original trailers...
    You could say they had been doing it all along then? OR that maybe now the death scenes are so much of a part of any slasher film because they are all thats left of them (in terms of entertainment).

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  • Comment number 2. Posted by ultramagic

    on 23 Feb 2009 20:38

    Not that I held any degree of hope that this would be a good movie in the first place, but whilst the subject has been raised, did anybody notice how terribly the marketing people on Friday the 13th shot themselves in the foot? The trailer for it, which is up on their website right now, actually pretty much shows you the method for every murder in the movie.

    I would've thought keeping the murderous instances under wraps until the audience goes to watch it would be pretty vital for a horror movie?

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  • Comment number 1. Posted by krn

    on 23 Feb 2009 17:49

    I am a HUGE Friday the 13th fan and because of this i am obviously very disappointed with the remake.
    Yet it sure as hell could of been worse!
    The main thing i am pleased with about the film is that it wont stick in the series like Rob Zombie's remake of Halloween will stick in that series; as a total impostor of unnecessary stupidity and shows only that Mr Zombie thought he was better than John Carpenter. (i hint back at The Exorcist II).
    This new Friday the 13th is no remake, the ONLY things in common with this film and the original/s is the mask/s, the fact Jason preserved his mothers head in some kind of monument and the fact lots of naughty people get killed.
    Everything else about the film i disliked, the main thing i disliked about it being the fact it seemed so half-assed. Many of the death scenes were in fact very tame, and after Freddy vs Jason i would expect more. It seems in terms of how explicit the film is they concentrated more on sex and drugs rather than the killings! Which is ultimately what separates a slasher film from a sleazy soft-core porn flick.
    If it wasn't for its title and slight connection to the Friday the 13th series, it would be forgotten forever in a split second.

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