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The row over the sacked dinner lady

Victoria Derbyshire | 09:37 UK time, Thursday, 24 September 2009

Carol Hill lost her job at a primary school in Essex for telling the parents of a 7 year old Chloe David she'd been tied up and whipped in the playground. I've just recorded an interview with Chloe's father Scott David which you can hear at ten.


Listen to my interview with Scott David.


  • 1. At 10:03am on 24 Sep 2009, Tempus Fugit wrote:

    Sacked? I hope she goes to a tribunal and wins - as far as I'm concerned, she acted in the childs interests. I'd certainly want to know if any child of mine was goign through such criminal assaults without the school taking any action.

    Oh, perhaps that's the nail hit on the head; the school is trying to cover it's posterior!

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  • 2. At 10:43am on 24 Sep 2009, shoutatradio wrote:

    covering up bullying at school is no new phenomena. In 1994 a neighbour who was a dinner lady at the local primary school knocked on our door and informed us that our 4 yr old son was regularly being held down by four other pupils while the "ring leader" kicked and punched him. She told us that Teachers had witnessed this but failed to discipline the offenders. When we approached the school they denied the incidents and spent more time trying to uncover our source of informstion. The "ring leader" was the child of an influential school governor (are we getting a theme here?). We removed our two children from the school and spent the next few years trying to get my son to stop acting the class fool in his efforts to be liked.

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  • 3. At 11:06am on 24 Sep 2009, Jobrite wrote:

    This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the House Rules.

  • 4. At 12:05pm on 24 Sep 2009, Tempus Fugit wrote:

    The trouble with these removed posts is that I then develop an unhealthy urge to know just what apparent controversy they contained!

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  • 5. At 12:27pm on 24 Sep 2009, Radiowonk wrote:

    How often have we heard "acting in the best interests of the child"? Clearly not applicable when the "abuse" is at the hands of other children and is carried out on school premises, in school time, and under the noses of the staff.

    I sincerely hope this dinner lady takes her employer to court and wins handsomely. On the basis of what I have heard and read so far the school head ought to be ashamed of herself, as should the other members of staff who colluded in the cover up.

    For exactly whose best interests do they think they were acting? Clearly not those of the victim.

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  • 6. At 12:31pm on 24 Sep 2009, wendymann wrote:

    "On the basis of what I have heard and read so far the school head ought to be ashamed of herself, as should the other members of staff who colluded in the cover up."

    it was assault - the children and school are culpable if proven.

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  • 7. At 12:38pm on 24 Sep 2009, Jobrite wrote:

    I think it is a discrace, Carol Hill acted in the best interests of the child & thought the parents had been fully informed when she enquired after the child. The parents should have been fully informed of what had happened by the school, This put Carol in a difficult position. It is not right she should loose her job.

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  • 8. At 12:40pm on 24 Sep 2009, wendymann wrote:

    why does vicky always presume guilt with alleged (muslim) terrorists?

    instead of talking about the injustice of the control orders, that is house arrest without due process vicky assumes that there is a terrorist threat from these individuals who have been released from the control orders.

    clearly if these men are so much of a threat the govt would choose security, that is to convict, rather than release them into the 'wild'. so the issue should be one of justice and civil rights not the paranoia the govt prefers to sell.

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  • 9. At 12:48pm on 24 Sep 2009, wendymann wrote:

    i wonder how long this spate of 'human interest' stories will be exploited. elsewhere nolan has made it an art form - seeking out every bit of sexual perversions possible - from his choice of 'human interest' stories .. not that vicky has reached those towering heights of 5live broadcasting yet.

    actually of more interest should be the speeches by Gadhafy , Luiz InĂ¡cio Lula da Silvar and Ahmedinejad of course they rail against our and western interests but they are not short of some home truths.

    btw have i missed todays pro war propaganda piece ?

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  • 10. At 12:52pm on 24 Sep 2009, wendymann wrote:


    i agree it is a disgrace that someone should lose their job rather than a quiet word . someone clearly wanted a cover up and now they have it all over the media. id say result for the victims.

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  • 11. At 1:34pm on 24 Sep 2009, Tempus Fugit wrote:

    "I think it is a discrace, Carol Hill acted in the best interests of the child & thought the parents had been fully informed when she enquired after the child."

    What I can't fathom is that she appears to have been sacked for breach of privacy but, from what the father said, she didn't tell him anything the school hadn't already said in the two notes he found in his daughters bag after school.

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  • 12. At 07:21am on 02 Oct 2009, Steelroundhead wrote:

    I must say that the school in this case was a bit naive and deceitful, I mean they did not tell the parents the truth did they? this dinner lady did it for them and they sacked her for it! I must also add that it looks like the school did not know how to handle this and concocted the lesser story. There is also the fact that we have not heard any more about the individuals who started this off by tying the girl up, what of them and what about some punishment for this, if they did this we cannot just leave it! I have seen first hand how schools can be running scared if something happens that's a bit uncomfortable, we must not let bullies get away with it we must come down hard on it! we cannot hit them but we can damn well make them see through shame that it is not acceptable in any day and age, children will always push it nothing will change that but if they see that we are not going to tolerate it they will respond one way or the other, school is for learning not for taking out your personal problems on someone else, it's this aspect of school life that cause's most bullying problems,I hope this lady gets her job back, but don't hold your breath!

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