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Obama is stimulating

Justin Webb | 16:24 UK time, Tuesday, 16 December 2008

As I said the other day - and as a president said before me - the business of America is Business.

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  • 1. At 4:45pm on 16 Dec 2008, dceilar wrote:

    Justin,

    I think there's a problem with the link.

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  • 2. At 4:48pm on 16 Dec 2008, Ed Iglehart wrote:

    Oh Oh! You've made an error!
    ;-)
    ed

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  • 3. At 4:48pm on 16 Dec 2008, dceilar wrote:

    I think this is the link.

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  • 4. At 4:51pm on 16 Dec 2008, Ed Iglehart wrote:

    Is this it?

    Very stimulating.


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  • 5. At 5:30pm on 16 Dec 2008, dianaatkin wrote:

    Let's write the column ourselves Chinese Whispers style, I'll begin:.

    Obama's rapid selection of his new cabinet has been wise and yet. with nomination of Hillary Clinton for Vice President...

    (Next -)

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  • 6. At 5:42pm on 16 Dec 2008, Reuben wrote:

    So how does that quote from the great depression have anything to do with Justin doting on Obama?

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  • 7. At 6:10pm on 16 Dec 2008, Ed Iglehart wrote:

    Sciurus,

    You're not living up to the cleverness of your totem.

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  • 8. At 6:16pm on 16 Dec 2008, Ed Iglehart wrote:

    Obama's rapid selection of his new cabinet has been wise and yet. with nomination of Hillary Clinton for Vice President...the seeds of Acrimony Vulgaris seem likely to take hold in the White House vegetable patch. Possibly not a problem if the new puppy knows the proper posture with which to approach an invasive shrub, unlike the previous poodle...

    ...

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  • 9. At 7:03pm on 16 Dec 2008, dianaatkin wrote:

    Obama's rapid selection of his new cabinet has been wise and yet. with nomination of Hillary Clinton for Vice President...the seeds of Acrimony Vulgaris seem likely to take hold in the White House vegetable patch. Possibly not a problem if the new puppy knows the proper posture with which to approach an invasive shrub, unlike the previous poodle...
    Who will now be requesting that all journalists wear slippers during Presidential Library fundraising events.

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  • 10. At 7:04pm on 16 Dec 2008, roadwaysurfer wrote:

    The business of the Democrat's America is employing their friends, family and toadies. Look at the Blagojevich fiasco. He tried to sell the empty Obama senate seat. Not smart. Bad business. Don't sell it, "gift" it for future services and favors. Just like the Clinton seat. You'll make way more money and not go to jail.

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  • 11. At 7:36pm on 16 Dec 2008, gunsandreligion wrote:

    Justin, you have put your finger on why America will
    survive the latest batch of trouble which we have
    created for ourselves. It's this kitsch which is the
    lifeblood of our culture that shall enable us to ride
    out the times ahead.

    Back in the 90's, we had Alien Pops, and now we
    have Obama and McCain pops.

    It's this sort of Americana that built route 66,
    the original treasure trove of litter that narrates
    our post WWII westward expansion. The French
    have the Louvre, the Russians the Hermitage,
    but do not fear! Thousands of years from now,
    when those great monuments to culture have
    collapsed, archaeologists will still be digging
    up the remains of Obama Llamas and the like,
    and generations of academics will obtain tenure
    by postulating ridiculous notions, such as the
    one that an early 21st century American pharaoh
    was soft and cuddly.


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  • 12. At 7:53pm on 16 Dec 2008, ray564k wrote:

    Continuing from #5

    Let's write the column ourselves Chinese Whispers style, I'll begin:.

    Obama's rapid selection of his new cabinet has been wise and yet with nomination of Hillary Clinton for Vice President...

    (Next -)

    --->>> gaining much media time, there has been little focus on how the Republican party plans to rebuild. Rumours abound that....

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  • 13. At 7:53pm on 16 Dec 2008, happylaze wrote:

    that's what she said.

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  • 14. At 9:43pm on 16 Dec 2008, frayedcat wrote:

    About these trends....will they all stop competitively wearing flag motif lapel pins now? Pleeez?

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  • 15. At 10:08pm on 16 Dec 2008, middlecroony wrote:

    this is just crap reporting!

    Justin needs to crawl out of mental hybernation.

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  • 16. At 10:37pm on 16 Dec 2008, AlisonScotland wrote:

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  • 17. At 10:43pm on 16 Dec 2008, dennisjunior1 wrote:

    justin....

    the link was OK and work well...

    obama is always an articulate person; who comes to the show with a plan.

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  • 18. At 11:00pm on 16 Dec 2008, Jeebers76 wrote:

    Doesn't anybody find all this tacky? Selling Obama merchandise is a mite disrespectful of the USA Presidential office. I'm glad he's popular, but I just think this whole thing lacks respect for Obama and for the office. Remember when they came out with Obama condoms in NYC? Yuck!

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  • 19. At 00:39am on 17 Dec 2008, Ed Iglehart wrote:

    --->>> gaining much media time, there has been little focus on how the Republican party plans to rebuild. Rumours abound that....
    >>>>> Sarah Palin called in to smitten Greta Van Susteren of Fox News, to talk about the arson committed at the Wasilla church she attends.

    “I’ll leave it to the pastor to speak to,” Palin says in the FOX interview. “I apologized to the assistant pastor letting him know that if there’s anything that I’ve done to draw negative attention to the church.”

    This was a dangerous fire, she notes.

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  • 20. At 00:41am on 17 Dec 2008, happylaze wrote:

    18 no but my comment was.

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  • 21. At 06:03am on 17 Dec 2008, Pancha Chandra wrote:

    President-elect Obama is a real breath of fresh air. He will restore America's rightful place in the world with sound, pragmatic policies. America needs to extricate itself from Iraq in a way that would not create a vacuum that would encourage extremists to may hay and exploit the situation. America went in for the wrong reasons. With a sound foreign policy and dynamic policies at home, the incoming Administration will sow the seeds of economic recovery. America will stand tall again. Yes it can!

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  • 22. At 07:05am on 17 Dec 2008, ladycm wrote:

    Not too sure about "Obamaland". That's weird.

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  • 23. At 10:22am on 17 Dec 2008, RobinJD wrote:

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  • 24. At 12:07pm on 17 Dec 2008, dceilar wrote:

    I've come across this interesting article by Dmitry Orlov who compares the experiences of the Soviet collapse to the current problems. A frightening read. He says there are five stages of collapse and I would guess we are in the middle of stage two (commercial collapse; the first being financial). The next stage is political collapse, followed by social, and then cultural collapse (though not necessarily in that order). His arguments seem fantasy, but collapses are not normally predicted I suppose.

    Orlov previously wrote about the USSR being better prepared for collapse than the US; what he termed closing the collapse gap.

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  • 25. At 1:30pm on 17 Dec 2008, SaintDominick wrote:

    Ref 24

    We are in serious fiscal and economic trouble, but to suggest that the USA may be on the verge of social and cultural collapse is an exaggeration.

    It is also important to consider that our economy is so large that even a Great Depression is highly unlikely. I expect our economy to recover within the next two years, particularly if both parties and corporate America decide to set aside their political and business agendae and work together as Americans rather than irresponsible partisans or greedy businessmen.

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  • 26. At 1:37pm on 17 Dec 2008, Ed Iglehart wrote:

    Dceilar (24),

    Further to Orlov, Industrialization: Prelude to Collapse
    by William Catton

    "The Industrial Revolution made us precariously dependent on nature's dwindling legacy of non-renewable resources, even though we did not at first recognize this fact. Many major events of modern history were unforeseen results of actions taken with inadequate awareness of ecological mechanisms. Peoples and governments never intended some of the outcomes their actions would incur.

    To see where we are now headed, when our destiny has departed so radically from our aspirations, we must examine some historic indices that point to the conclusion that even the concept of succession (as explored in previous chapters) understates the ultimate consequences of our own exuberance. We can begin by taking a fresh look at the Great Depression of the 1930s, an episode people saw largely in the shallower terms of economics and politics when they were living through it. [1] From an ecologically informed perspective, what else can we now see in it?

    The Great Depression, looked at ecologically, was a preview of the fate toward which mankind has been drawn by the kinds of progress that have depended on consuming exhaustible resources. We need to see why it was not recognized for the preview it was; this will help us to grasp at last the meaning missed earlier...."
    Plenty more here

    Peace and fewer folk
    ed






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  • 27. At 1:51pm on 17 Dec 2008, Ed Iglehart wrote:

    Dominick,

    "It is also important to consider that our economy is so large that even a Great Depression is highly unlikely."
    I'd be interested if you could explain the logic of this statement. It seems to me that the size of our economy (and its global scope) is actually a major factor in its instability and danger of collapse....I commend Clive Ponting's "A Green History of the World" to one and all.
    ""All these states [the Sumerian states of Kish, Uruk, Ur and Lagash] were dependent on their agricultural base for the large- scale production of wheat and barley and that was being slowly undermined by environmental degradation brought about by irrigation. About 3500 BC roughly equal amounts of wheat and barley were grown in southern Mesopotamia. But wheat can only tolerate a salt level of half a per cent in the soil whereas barley can still grow in twice this amount. The increasing salinisation of the soil can be deduced from the declining amount of wheat cultivated and its replacement by the more salt tolerant barley. By 2500 BC wheat had fallen to only 15 per cent of the crop; by 2100 Ur had abandoned wheat production and overall it had declined to just 2 percent of the crops grown in the Sumerian region. By 2000 the cities of Isin and Larsa no longer grew wheat and by 1700 BC salt levels in the soil throughout the whole of southern Mesopotamia were so high that no wheat at all was grown."

    "What is remarkable is the way that the political history of Sumer and its city states so closely follows the steady decline of the agricultural base. The independent city states survived until 2370 BC when the first external conqueror of the region-- Sargon of Agade--established the Akkadian empire. That conquest is contemporary with the first serious decline in crop yields following widespread salinisation. For the next six hundred years the region saw the Akkadian empire conquered by the Guti nomads from the Zagros mountains, a brief revival of the region under the Third Dynasty of Ur between 2113-2000 BC, its collapse under pressure from the Elamites in the west and Amorites in the east, and about 1800 BC the conquest of the area by the Babylonian kingdom centered on northern Mesopotamia. Throughout this period, from the end of the once flourishing and powerful city states to the Babylonian conquest, crop yields continued to fall making it very difficult to sustain a visible state. By 1800 BC, when yields were only about a third of the level obtained during the Early Dynastic period, the agricultural base of Sumer had effectively collapsed and the focus of Mesopotamian society shifted permanently to the north, where a succession of imperial states controlled the region, and Sumer declined into insignificance as an underpopulated, impoverished backwater of empire."
    Ever since the dawn of the Neolithic Revolution, we have followed cycles of growth beyond our agricultural base followed by collapse, only to be followed (in due course) by the same cycle somewhere new. This time it's global, and there's nowhere else to go...

    Peace and ????
    ed

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  • 28. At 2:08pm on 17 Dec 2008, dceilar wrote:

    #25 DominickVila

    His points do seem a bit extreme, but he originally wrote this in January 2008 where thought of a finance collapse we witnessed was very much on the margins of debate. I say better to be prepared than be surprised. Let's hope Obama is the man to save us (I think he can).

    #26 Ed

    Interesting links. I'll read them more in-depth later.

    It seems the older I get, the more I become to realise what Heidegger meant by the 'technological attitude' and it causing the darkening of the world.

    Is it possible to have an urban pastoral existence where we care about other beings and things?

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  • 29. At 2:09pm on 17 Dec 2008, SaintDominick wrote:

    Ref 27

    Not every segment of our industry is near collapse. Our war industry is thriving (admittedly that's not something we should be necessarily proud of), corporations such as Boeing, MICROSOFT, GE, HONEYWELL and others are doing well, and don't forget that even our defunct auto industry is doing well overseas.

    The biggest problem we have is lack of leadership, the consequences of fiscal decisions made on ideological grounds, and greedy businessmen more interested in the bottom line than the well being of our country. Their decisions and consequences have resulted in lack of consumer confidence which, not surprisingly, has had a major impact on our consumer oriented economy.

    Yes, we are going through very difficult times and it is going to take time to repair the damage done, but I look forward to more progressive and focused leadership and the effects that that will have on our confidence for a better future not to mention our pride which seems to be dwindling.

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  • 30. At 2:31pm on 17 Dec 2008, Ed Iglehart wrote:

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  • 31. At 2:37pm on 17 Dec 2008, Ed Iglehart wrote:

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  • 32. At 2:44pm on 17 Dec 2008, Ed Iglehart wrote:

    Dominick,

    While I agree with your observations in general, I still see no logic in the assertion that our economy is less likely to fail because of its size.

    The bigger they are, the harder they fall...I'd love to be wrong, but....

    "“Though I can see no way to defend the economy, I recognize the need to be concerned for the suffering that would be produced by its failure. But I ask if it is necessary for it to fail in order to change: I am assuming that if it does not change it must sooner or later fail, and that a great deal that is more valuable will fail with it. As a deity the economy is a sort of egotistical French monarch, for it apparently can see no alternative to itself except chaos, and perhaps that is its chief weakness. For, of course, chaos is not the only alternative to it. A better alternative is a better economy. But we will not conceive the possibility of a better economy, and therefore will not begin to change, until we quit deifying the present one."
    -- Wendell Berry in "A Continuous Harmony"
    Peace and hope against hope
    ed

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  • 33. At 3:24pm on 17 Dec 2008, happylaze wrote:

    30 ED I saw this and could not help but think of the double standard.

    with a fine of 5 million why not do it again. if you are young and get enough stashed away (just a couple of billion) you get at worse 20 years in prison and 5 million.

    Now I would bet that would not be one of them real harsh prisons where a shower is dangerous. So 20 years out of the rat race in a country club prison and the world is yours.

    Justus
    that is the word.

    As in Just us lowly people.

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  • 34. At 3:25pm on 17 Dec 2008, happylaze wrote:

    And when they fall a blacksmith will be needed.LOL

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  • 35. At 3:43pm on 17 Dec 2008, dceilar wrote:

    #30 Ed

    Yeah his $5million potential fine is a joke and his internment of a few years is likely to be in one of the 'soft' or 'open' prisons, but are we surprised? If one of us robbed one bank I'm pretty sure we would spend the rest of our lives in prison (and a real prison at that). And he robbed loads of banks to the tune of $50billion!

    Who makes the laws, and who benefits most by them?

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  • 36. At 3:50pm on 17 Dec 2008, Ed Iglehart wrote:

    Meanwhile.... yesterday's exhuberance begins to pale.

    ;-)
    ed

    "UNDER a spreading chestnut tree
    The village smithy stands;
    The smith, a mighty man is he,
    With large and sinewy hands;
    And the muscles of his brawny arms
    Are strong as iron bands.

    His hair is crisp, and black, and long,
    His face is like the tan;
    His brow is wet with honest sweat,
    He earns whate'er he can,
    And looks the whole world in the face,
    For he owes not any man."

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  • 37. At 4:01pm on 17 Dec 2008, happylaze wrote:

    I have suspicions about the reason he managed to pull the wool and avoid the scrutiny so well.

    But I suspect it would get modded.

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  • 38. At 4:10pm on 17 Dec 2008, happylaze wrote:

    though it could just be the rich are no more intelligent than the poor that get conned.

    Just as people say stupid sub prime mortgage taking poor people over extended(because they were sold the idea that paying on a house creates wealth).

    These investors who frankly should have know better were lured by the same promise.
    Easy money. Though frankly I have more sympathy with house buyers that plan to live there than the speculators and investors(who are the speculators).



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  • 39. At 4:23pm on 17 Dec 2008, happylaze wrote:

    ed "meanwhile" link is to a sign in page.

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  • 40. At 4:27pm on 17 Dec 2008, Ed Iglehart wrote:

    "Who makes the laws, and who benefits most by them?"
    Until quite recently, only White, property-owning males....Heidegger was right, as indicated by the attitude exhibited towards "productivity" by certain posters, e.g. the more mechanised and extrametabolically leveraged, the better (the more "productive", through more consumption -;)). It's worthwhile to note that use of "leverage" is also at the heart of the present financial "difficulties"

    Once again, we must remember that "credit" is simply another word for "belief" or "faith", and that thus we are in the midst of a crisis of faith...
    "We are often cautioned that we must live in the 'real world' by folk
    who mean 'money', a concept more abstract than theoretical physics."
    Again, shades of Heidegger. The "gift" of abstract thinking is double-edged.

    Peace and a concrete awareness
    ed

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  • 41. At 4:56pm on 17 Dec 2008, gunsandreligion wrote:

    #30, #35, ed, dceilar, if one hopes to obtain mercy
    from the system, it is important to rob banks from
    the inside.

    So, pointing a gun at a teller will get you busted.
    But, pointing a gun at the taxpayer will get you
    respected.

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  • 42. At 4:59pm on 17 Dec 2008, Ed Iglehart wrote:

    "Who makes the laws, and who benefits most by them?"

    "A State divided into a small number of rich and a large number of poor will always develop a government manipulated by the rich to protect the amenities represented by their property.": Harold Laski

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  • 43. At 5:09pm on 17 Dec 2008, Ed Iglehart wrote:

    happylaze,

    "ed "meanwhile" link is to a sign in page."
    Maybe you could try "free" registration? I actually have a paid subscription, but I believe the "public" pages are free.

    Maybe Try this , or this, and follow links from there... Apologies if I've caused difficulties, but thanks form letting me know. Please let me know if This one fails

    Peace and accessible data
    ed

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  • 44. At 5:19pm on 17 Dec 2008, watermanaquarius wrote:


    Missed the connection link # 36 Ed, but going directly to WSJ, I had to smile at the article showing a further stumbling block being placed by Bush in front of Obama to slow down all the really important business he must shortly attend to.
    The right of conscience factor!!!!!!!
    "The outgoing Bush administration this week will finalize a regulation establishing a "right of conscience" allowing medical staff to refuse to participate in any practice they object to on moral grounds, including abortion but possibly birth control and other health care as well".[wsj]
    End-games
    This is just todays trivial stupidity. Any thoughts about Dubyas plans for tomorrow, with Rights of conscience for all.
    Teachers who do not want to teach any choice of subjects that prick their hearts or souls?
    Cooks who believe vegetables have feelings?
    Old fashioned Nannies who refuse to dress little girls in pants?
    Farmers whose cows moo during milking?
    Impossible to wipe out with one stroke the damage done over the last 8 years but I hope Obama can dispense with all this last minute diviciveness of a failed administration, with just one stroke of a pen.


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  • 45. At 5:28pm on 17 Dec 2008, Ed Iglehart wrote:

    Cool! And stimulating....

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  • 46. At 5:28pm on 17 Dec 2008, dianaatkin wrote:

    CHINESE WHISPERS COLUMN
    Obama's rapid selection of his new cabinet has been wise and yet. with nomination of Hillary Clinton for Vice President...
    the seeds of Acrimony Vulgaris seem likely to take hold in the White House vegetable patch. Possibly not a problem if the new puppy knows the proper posture with which to approach an invasive shrub, unlike the previous poodle...

    Who will now be requesting that all journalists wear slippers during Presidential Library fundraising events.

    Gaining much media time, there has been little focus on how the Republican party plans to rebuild. Rumours abound that....

    Historians already collating copious material entitled: 'Neo Con' how They Conned the World' have little to write about GW Bush except that he wrote his concepts for his administration in 6 points on a napkin with Karl Rove. Karl Rove since he left the administration...



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  • 47. At 5:40pm on 17 Dec 2008, dianaatkin wrote:

    CHINESE WHISPERS COLUMN
    Obama's rapid selection of his new cabinet has been wise and yet. with nomination of Hillary Clinton for Vice President...
    the seeds of Acrimony Vulgaris seem likely to take hold in the White House vegetable patch. Possibly not a problem if the new puppy knows the proper posture with which to approach an invasive shrub, unlike the previous poodle...

    Who will now be requesting that all journalists wear slippers during Presidential Library fundraising events.

    Gaining much media time, there has been little focus on how the Republican party plans to rebuild. Rumours abound that....


    Sarah Palin called in to smitten Greta Van Susteren of Fox News, to talk about the arson committed at the Wasilla church she attends.

    ?I?ll leave it to the pastor to speak to,? Palin says in the FOX interview. ?I apologized to the assistant pastor letting him know that if there?s anything that I?ve done to draw negative attention to the church.?

    This was a dangerous fire, she notes.

    Historians already collating copious material entitled: 'Neo Con' how They Conned the World' have little to write about GW Bush except that he wrote his concepts for his administration in 6 points on a napkin with Karl Rove. Karl Rove since he left the administration...







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  • 48. At 5:40pm on 17 Dec 2008, happylaze wrote:

    45 sounds like a tobacco ad lol.

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  • 49. At 5:43pm on 17 Dec 2008, Ed Iglehart wrote:

    This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the House Rules.

  • 50. At 5:53pm on 17 Dec 2008, dceilar wrote:

    #42 Ed

    "A State divided into a small number of rich and a large number of poor will always develop a government manipulated by the rich to protect the amenities represented by their property.": Harold Laski

    As Marx said: The state is nothing more than a committee for managing the affairs of the bourgeoisie.

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  • 51. At 6:35pm on 17 Dec 2008, seanspa wrote:

    Ed, I think that mot of us here would agree that a comment about wall st is very much on topic given that Justin's link (and there really isn't very much else) is called business as usual. Perhaps you should have used the "I" word to ensure that the post got through!

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  • 52. At 6:54pm on 17 Dec 2008, seanspa wrote:

    I know most of you wouldn't want to follow a link to Fox, but I chose this only because of the photograph. Does Justin have an American twin?

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  • 53. At 7:11pm on 17 Dec 2008, markingtime wrote:

    missing them all

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  • 54. At 8:09pm on 17 Dec 2008, gunsandreligion wrote:

    #52, seanspa, actually it is time for the truth to come
    out. Justin has been living a dual-life. This serves
    to explain why he has been making so many trips
    across the Atlantic over the last few years.

    It will be interesting to see how long he can maintain
    this illusion, now that he has two full-time jobs.

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  • 55. At 08:08am on 18 Dec 2008, happylaze wrote:

    53 not even thought provoking?

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  • 56. At 1:14pm on 18 Dec 2008, Ed Iglehart wrote:

    Beware the Topic Cops!

    Post #49 was removed because it was deemed "that it does not appear to relate to the subject of this blog."[which was that we're becoming bored with the subject of the particular blog ;-)]

    And Post #31 was deemed "to be off-topic, in that it does not appear to relate to the subject of this blog.", ...

    ""I've just had a comment refused because it contained the onomatopoeic word used to express the sound of a burst of air, as when a bubble collapses or even when a magician makes something appear or disappear by "magic" - I guess it's because thee same word is sometimes used to refer (disparagingly?) to persons of non-standard gender orientation....

    Political Correctness gone "P...!" (as if by magic)"
    The thread topic/subject? "Obama is Stimulating" No, he isn't! Yes he is! No he isn't!....

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  • 57. At 3:08pm on 18 Dec 2008, happylaze wrote:

    56 thats what she said

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  • 58. At 3:19pm on 18 Dec 2008, KAS1865 wrote:

    I find it very frustrating when my posts are "moderated" and rejected for challenging the view that Obama is some sort of medicine man who will cure all ills.

    It appears that he has now been elevated to God like status by some and i have had to check to ensure he was not born on December 25th.

    As each day passes it becomes clearer that the American Public have been conned, not for the first time, by the Democrats in league with an Anti-Bush Media.

    I find Obama even less inspiring than Ross Peroit. He is bound to fail and scandal already appears to be stalking him from many directions.

    I hope for America's sake he has the ability to dodge and swerve in the same manner as Slick Billy, though there is little doubt the Media will put a positive slant on things should he be caught out

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  • 59. At 9:28pm on 18 Dec 2008, robloop wrote:

    #58 KAS1865
    I read this posting before it was deleted and considered it completely unoffensive, even if critical of Barack Obama, the media for its unbridled support of Obama, and mocking of those who consider him God's gift to the planet. It would be interesting to find out to what the moderator objected, or is it a case of free speech not being so free any more?

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  • 60. At 5:08pm on 19 Dec 2008, Ed Iglehart wrote:

    Peaking of stimulating the economy. Basic building blocks for a pyramid...

    Bricks and mortar
    ed

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  • 61. At 5:13pm on 19 Dec 2008, Gary_A_Hill wrote:

    "Freedom of the press belongs to the man who owns one." - A. J. Liebling.

    In this case, "press" means website, and this one is owned by the BBC. They may do what they wish with any material posted here.

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  • 62. At 5:15pm on 19 Dec 2008, happylaze wrote:

    58

    As each day passes it becomes clearer that the American Public have been conned, not for the first time, by the Democrats in league with an Anti-Bush Media.


    any evidence for this.

    He promised everything we have.
    he promised a more bipartisan approach---we got it.

    he promised that things were going to be tough - they are.

    What exactly has he done (other than not be born to good all white family) that you find to be such a con.

    If people misinterpreted what he said and now feel betrayed then they should learn to listen and COMPREHEND.

    those that did see no con.

    59 you cannot see racism . You have proven yourself many times here on this blog to be ,less than impartial about race.And that is being way polite.

    Mods strike this and I will bring a long list of his rants. there is still a discussion on the blago post about one of his racially sensitive comments.

    No more blah blah blah than the and the religion of Islam.

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  • 63. At 5:41pm on 21 Dec 2008, rob wrote:

    Much is said about the "puppy" which will have to be brought into the white house, and no doubt many will be having a field day when it gets caught peeing or worse on the white house lawns. carpets and with better aim, the president foot. However. little is being said about the president elects Sunday prayers, is that because he does his facing east on the white house doormat? Do not get angry, get real. Obama has deep Muslim roots, and one day this may turn and bite the American public who have a habit of being hysterical for the wrong votes. They say God Bless America, I think it should be changed to, God Help America , if this is so.

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  • 64. At 7:50pm on 21 Dec 2008, happylaze wrote:

    here the new R is again showing an amazing amount of bigotry .


    bnp alive and well i see.

    mate you are a waste, of space

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  • 65. At 7:51pm on 21 Dec 2008, happylaze wrote:

    he may be a puppy in your eyes but you are a thing left behind by puppies in others eyes.
    bet your popular eh?

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  • 66. At 12:59pm on 23 Dec 2008, Steve-Beacon wrote:

    How will Barack Obama handle natural and terror disaster? FEMA was incompetent during the Katrina Hurricane. The Director Mike Brown was terminated for failing to evacuate the city before the flood. PA EMA Director Adrian King was fired because he refused to personally assist during the aftermath of the storm. President Obama should develop a comprehensive plan for catastrophic events. He must prepare and respond to emergencies in the Deep South that suffers from hurricanes, the West Coast if devastated by wild fire, and the Central States when attacked by killer tornadoes. International and Domestic Terrorists could attack at any time like during the 9-11 WTC disaster. Obama would consult with the Nuclear Regulatory Commission on appropriate procedures for safety, security, and recovery efforts.

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  • 67. At 00:10am on 24 Dec 2008, phenry wrote:

    I am so excited and surprised to see that Obama's lawyer cleared Obama of any wrongdoing today.

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  • 68. At 05:23am on 24 Dec 2008, bubzoo wrote:

    Stimulating or not but please keep your nose out from the rest of the world and work for US only!

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  • 69. At 8:13pm on 27 Dec 2008, Steve-Beacon wrote:

    How will Barack Obama handle Henry Waxman and George Mitchell? Henry and George are vocal opponents of anabolic steroids and professional sports. Barack avidly follows athletics. The White House should consider supporting body building over snide, political chicanery.

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  • 70. At 00:48am on 28 Dec 2008, Sylvia C Martinez wrote:

    Wait until the 100 days is office. Its going to be a real awakening.

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  • 71. At 9:46pm on 30 Dec 2008, Algol60 wrote:

    Obama can form sentences and is rumoured to be able to pronounce 'nuclear'. Surely these achievements are sufficient for American rejoicing.

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  • 72. At 00:11am on 26 Mar 2009, koneka wrote:

    I find all this business about merchandise to be quite ridiculous and funny at the same time. I am not sure they should be allowed to make such silly brands. Broccoli and a theme park, what’s next : Obama mortgages?

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