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Feeling the impact

Brian Taylor | 00:25 UK time, Friday, 6 May 2011

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Impact from the results obviously most clearly felt at Holyrood. But there will be pressures elsewhere too.

Firstly, the impetus towards an independence referendum will be significantly enhanced.

Secondly - and probably more immediately - there will be pressure for greater powers within the Scotland Bill, presently before Westminster.

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First things first.

Warm congratulations to James Kelly for his election as the MSP for the redrawn Rutherglen seat.

But the story it tells for Scotland is intriguing.

Collapse in the LibDem vote - and it seems to have gone to the SNP, rather than Labour. Tories manage to hold on.

If, if, that is repeated across Scotland, then the SNP are back in power, big style.

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A succession of Labour politicians - most recently deputy Holyrood leader Johann Lamont - disputing strongly that their campaign was misplaced.

They opened by targeting the UK Tory cuts - deploying the phrase "now that the Tories are back".

But they are insisting that was a legitimate context for the Holyrood elections - even though their main rival was the SNP.

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Early word from the counts.

Turnout may have been depressed by the weather. But the broadest smiles so far seem to be on the faces of the SNP candidates.

No results yet, of course - but the expectation on all sides seems to be an SNP victory.

On our BBC panel, Mike Russell says that the SNP are on course for their largest share of the vote in a Holyrood election.

Labour's Douglas Alexander says his party has fought well and their vote is holding up: His forecast is that the LibDem vote will slide rapidly.

Could that mean a clean sweep for the SNP in Aberdeen - Donside, Central and South?

Comments

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  • Comment number 1.

    Aye Brian,
    9% swing to SNP in Rutherglen. This could mean more than just a clean sweep in the north east.
    Its a broad smile so it is.
    How's it looking in pacific quay?

  • Comment number 2.

    Could this be the union in crisis?

  • Comment number 3.

    How you feeling Brian? ;o)

  • Comment number 4.

    Andy Kerr has gone SNP landslide is on the cards!!

  • Comment number 5.

    EK and Hamilton to the SNP!

    It could be a route!

  • Comment number 6.

    How good could this get?

  • Comment number 7.

    The grayman's just arrived at the counting office. Looks like he's keeking it!

  • Comment number 8.

    Well Brian, I know you BBC guys will keep going through the night and look forward to sharing it with you all. Have you arranged for the caterers to bring in plentiful supplies of humble pie to keep your strength up?

    Welcome to the new Scotland. What role for the BBC in that?

  • Comment number 9.

    The grayman can't hide tonight.

  • Comment number 10.

    Oh, the late nights don't suit Auntie Bella. Thought it was a repeat of John Pertwee's Doctor Who at first!!

  • Comment number 11.

    What about the chances of SNP clean sweep in NE, big deal and the Lib Dem's should be after Danny A's blood for that.

  • Comment number 12.

    Dr Who, mair like Worzel

    But what a night, long party ahead

  • Comment number 13.

    No congratulations for Linda Fabiani or Christina MacKelvie Brian?

  • Comment number 14.

    It's very quiet on here tonight Brian, but it's very busy over on another site.

    Wonder why?

  • Comment number 15.

    I have to be honest. I thought the SNP would struggle to win re-election but it seems my doubts were unfounded.

    Interesting night ahead.

  • Comment number 16.

    @ X_Sticks

    Aye the site that must not be named is the online place to be tonight but it's an SNP night hence pro labour Media outlets are rather quiet tonight.

  • Comment number 17.

    Excellent - Nicola's safe. The grayman's still keeking it!

  • Comment number 18.

    17. At 03:06am 6th May 2011, ForteanJo wrote:
    "Excellent - Nicola's safe. The grayman's still keeking it!"

    Aye ForteanJo, and you can bet he's not the only one. The whole establishment is in shock by the looks of it!

  • Comment number 19.

    Brian has went to bed I wonder why lol!!!!!!

  • Comment number 20.

    Greetings from Raleigh, North Carolina. Well, after the campaign that Labour ran, it is not really a surprise that the SNP have made major inroads in Labour areas. However, the win in Pentlands is just stunning. Now there is mention of an SNP clean sweep in Edinburgh. I have to say, this makes me rather homesick.

  • Comment number 21.

    Congratulations to the SNP for running an excellent campaign.
    On the doorsteps it always sounded and felt good.
    There are some faces that I'll be pleased not to see for the next 5 years.
    If New Labour have any sense, they'll cut the apronstrings to Westminster and align themselves with self-determination.
    Slainte Mhor

  • Comment number 22.

    It's the council tax effect. It's 6AM and Edinburgh is:
    Edin Eastern SNP Gain
    Edin Pentlands SNP Gain
    Edin Southern SNP Gain
    Edin Western SNP Gain

    Only Central & N+Leith to go

    People are sick and fed up of being robbed and mugged(via legal subterfuge) by the Council, which is populated by dogmatic unelected hardcore labourites who view Edinburghs population as a captive cash cow.

    It's Payback time!

    All that's left now bar the counting, is to pick up the wedge from the bookie.

    Labour won't learn from this, they never do, and if the SNP treat people respectfully Labour will end up going the same way as the Tories in Scotland.

    Scotland results just in: Labour trainwreck!

    I'm not an SNP supporter. I only voted for them.

  • Comment number 23.

    Glasgow going mostly SNP on constituency has to be a major revolution in Scottish politics. I do think that bringing in politicians from England to tell Scots how to vote was a major mistake. But I'm not sure Labour is going to admit that. All they did on STV was go on about how they would fight the SNP. They seem to have learned nothing.

  • Comment number 24.

    Alex Salmond now enters no-mans land...

    If his MSPs turn out to be a bunch of muppets public support for the SNP will evaporate, people up here are seriously fed up with clueless idiot politicians at both local and national level.

    He's going to have to keep them on a VERY tight leash.
    A few high profile public beheadings of transgressors with the body hung from the walls of Holyrood in a gibbet will go a long way towards reassuring the now huge number of floating voters in Scotland.

    Though fickle Fortune has deceiv'd me,
    She promis'd fair and perform'd but ill;
    Of mistress, friends, and wealth bereav'd me,
    Yet I bear a heart shall support me still.

    I'll act with prudence as far's I'm able,
    But if success I must never find,
    Then come Misfortune, I bid thee welcome,
    I'll meet thee with an undaunted mind.

  • Comment number 25.

    Any empty champagne bottles rolling round the corridors of Pacific Quay?

    Whayay!

    Come on Scotland ,ya wee dancer ye!

  • Comment number 26.

    Iain Gray, Ed Miliband, Harriet Harman, Brian Taylor, Jackie Bird, BBC Scotland, You boys took a helluva beating!

  • Comment number 27.

    For London the danger for the Union is that if Alex Salmond convinces people that we're all going to have to live in a British future which is a social and economic disaster zone, then we may as well vote for independence and have our own homegrown social and economic disaster up here.

    No-one has a particular rosy future ahead of them at the moment, and self-employment for Scotland may well be the best option for managing the pain of a severe economic downturn.

  • Comment number 28.

    Wasn't it Colin who kept hailing Subway Gray as First Minister in waiting?

    Could be a lang time waiting cos he's missed the last bus...

  • Comment number 29.

    Looks as though the news site with 1000+ postings on this fine night may have suffered again from a denial of service attack - wonder who could be responsible for that.

    Meantime there has been a seismic shift for the better in this fine country where we are all too wee, too poor and too stupid etc.

    Labour leadership anyone?

  • Comment number 30.

    I must say that I find the success of the SNP quite remarkable given the media os Scotland playing the part of the opposition with such vigour - not to mention spite and spin.
    Perhaps it is worth looking at the reaction of the voters to such malign influences and
    " learning lessons"?
    I won't be supporting the " quality " press,they have lost my readership for ever.
    I will continue to enjoy an on-line newspaper which has a positive attitude to Scotland and Scots and I don't mean the Caledonian Mercury.

  • Comment number 31.

    If the SNP get a majority...that would be an amazing result, un-be-lievable.
    On a par with the 1945 general election

    129 msps
    69 results so far
    42 SNP

  • Comment number 32.

    Thank you Scotland, and thank you those who voted SNP for the first time.

  • Comment number 33.

    An historic night, no doubt. Why all the glums faces on the beeb though Brian? This is huge news. Surely a political journalist should be delighted at the prospect of reporting on such an historic result.

  • Comment number 34.

    A lesson for all of Labour about trying to use Scotland merely to curry favour with the English electorate. So, when does the audit of the postal votes and proxy votes (where the traditional areas for *inaccuracies*, shall we say, lie) in the Wee Grey Moose's constituency? I suppose the new leader of Labour in Scotland has to be Elaine Murray, since she has just about the only safe Labour seat in Scotland.

  • Comment number 35.

    I wonder if the 'postal votes' can be checked.

  • Comment number 36.

    Ah good, the other place is back up and running again

  • Comment number 37.

    The results are looking completely amazing. Lothian has gone almost completely SNP, who would have predicted that!

    Most positive campaign has won out in the end and this really looks like a new era for Scotland.

  • Comment number 38.

    Oh no Brian! It looks like a SNP win! What on Earth are you going to do now that the SNP will be unlikely to entertain you? The gravy train hath stopped!

  • Comment number 39.

    An Independence referendum doesn't need to be a black and white "yes" "no" vote.

    To be honest an actual Independence referendum isn't even needed, multiple referendums on taking back "reserved" powers would be just as forward thinking and do just as much for Scotland.

    We are currently part of a Treaty of Union, the Government of Scotland and as such the people of Scotland can at any point decide to change the Treaty as is the case with any International Treaty.

  • Comment number 40.

    Fantastic results Scotland! Scottish Independence getting closer all the time - bring it on! Certainly looks like the other parties are being firmly put in their place. By the way Brian, love the braces :)

  • Comment number 41.


    A reasonable night.

    Thank you Scotland for not picking a bunch of medoicre low level apparatniks
    who think you are all frightened and can neither read nor add.

    Be positive and aim high.

    Thank you.

  • Comment number 42.

    "24. At 06:08am 6th May 2011, Ady wrote:

    Alex Salmond now enters no-mans land..."

    As they all must do.

    At least he has freedom of action and does not need to call party
    office down south for instructions.

    The new MSPs (of all parties) will no doubt have a learning curve to climb - but
    really they would have to be pretty bad to match those cast aside, is anyone
    weeping for a great loss of talent ?.

  • Comment number 43.

    Never mind! One day the public will realise where they are being led. But by then it will be too late. Will the last business to leave scotland turn the lights out. Welcome to the SNP vision of economic wilderness!!!

  • Comment number 44.

    I was proud to play my part in the decimiation of Labour at this election.

    Labour will never have the chance to take Scotland for granted again.

    This is a pivotal moment in Scottish History - the day they stood up to labour and it's fear-smear campaigning and told them to Jog on.

    A Labour SCALP list will follow once all the results are in - I'm so proud of Scotland today!

  • Comment number 45.

    Well, it's finally happened. Labour have treated Holyrood with contempt for so long, with second-rate constituency candidates & third-raters on the lists, the Tories (!) now have a greater number of heavy-weight MSP's than they do.

  • Comment number 46.

    Iain Grey's majority - WAFER THIN. he was visibly distraught through the recounts. If that was calm - I'd like to see him panicking!

  • Comment number 47.

    I just seen someone behind the scenes hand Brian a piece of paper. Is it his P45?

  • Comment number 48.

    Well done to all SNP members,voters, activist and everyone else involved in their success.

    Pacific Quay sounds disappointed with the results so far Brian oh well the truth is out there only one has to search hard to find it on this site.

  • Comment number 49.

    "25. At 06:17am 6th May 2011, Diabloandco wrote:

    Any empty champagne bottles rolling round the corridors of Pacific Quay?"

    Doubt it, but there will be at least one in my house the night.

  • Comment number 50.

    47 SNP and counting with the possibility of a majority keep them coming.

  • Comment number 51.

    #39 SolAlba,

    I disagree - the SNP have earned the right to the Referendum they have long sought. In my view they should do it now and make it a striaght "independence yes/no" question. Anything else is just a fudge. With an expected majority in Holyrood there is no excuse for timidity - unless they don't think they can win, of course.

  • Comment number 52.

    43. At 08:31am 6th May 2011, Mike T

    ??????????????

  • Comment number 53.

    This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the house rules. Explain.

  • Comment number 54.

    A great result for the SNP.
    Jackie Baillie is on BBC 1 (Scotland) just now and because of that stupid person's unchanged opinions she seems to want an SNP win in 2016!!!
    What a pity she actually won (with an increased majority) I'm sorry that so many people in Dumbarton seem to like cheap drink - that was the only thing Labour promised the people of Scotland after all.
    I'm actually sorry that Mary Mulligan was out-voted in Linlithgow, she was a pretty good MSP, but Mary - you weren't the problem in Linlithgow, your stupid leader meant your entire party was unelectable.
    It would maybe have been kinder too if Iain Gray had got 152 fewer votes, that way he wouldn't have had to go to Holyrood and be embarassed. I take it he will be embarassed to walk through those doors again.

  • Comment number 55.

    "43. At 08:31am 6th May 2011, Mike T wrote:

    Will the last business to leave scotland turn the lights out. Welcome to the SNP vision of economic wilderness!!!"

    Ah the Trolls are up early. And how was business under the Unionist parties ?.
    One feature of this election is that the SNP are supportive of business and also
    have a view of a better economy, they are selling Scotland as a place to invest
    the other parties seem to see just grey clouds and cuts...


  • Comment number 56.

    #45 GSy
    Don't talk about Annabelle like that!
    I don't like her politics, but she stands her ground.
    That's more than can be said for some (soon to be ex) 'leaders'

  • Comment number 57.

    For generations the London parties have have undermined and sapped the confidence of the Scottish people with their too wee, too poor, too weak mantra about running our own country. Now, even in massive defeat, they continue with the same negative tactics.

    First up was Lib Dem Tavish Scott telling us two days ago that the Scottish people do not need a referendum - If they want independence all they have to do is vote for it in this election. Last night we had Lib Dem Jim Wallace telling us that this election is not about independence.

    Next up, Iain Gray saying last night "We will work with anybody." Just a few months ago he was boasting how his party had 'Hamstrung' the SNP at every opportunity to stop the SNP getting their policies through.

    Then 'Honest' auntie Bella was telling us last night that a majority SNP government would be bad for Scotland. Not long ago her party were telling us that not having a majority Tory government in Westminster was bad for the country.

  • Comment number 58.

    Unbelievable. Jackie Baillie on KwithanE still trying to defend her position on MUP. How loudly do the electorate have to speak? And some consider her a successor to Elmer........

  • Comment number 59.

    How will the Libs find a replacement for the Scott person, they don't have anybody else ? Maybe they could persuade Iain Gray to change sides , or better still the large Baillie lady could bring them a bit of presence (if nothing else) . Maybe the Labour party should ask Tavish to join them and they could all go off on a crusade to Mozambique where Iain Gray is apparently well thought of.

  • Comment number 60.

    My there are some bitter comments on here this morning, howver there is one thing worse than a bad loser it is a poor winner.
    Stunning performance from the SNP, just the outside chance of an overall majority.
    How did this happen?
    A competent 4 years of government.
    Legislation that was generally well thought out and researched.
    Positive approach to government, yes there are problems but lets sort them out.
    A vision of a better Scotland
    Promoting the sense that we can do better.
    More competence in their ministers.
    Respecting the electorate by not patronising them.
    A very well organised campaign.
    Excellent targeting of key seats
    Targeting of second vote as being crucial.
    SNP able to appeal to a broad swathe of people from all over Scotland.
    Opposition especially Labour being absolutely dire.

    To the Future
    Labour are very far from finished, they still polled over 30% in the constituency. So lets not get ahead of ourselves.
    Labour if they are to succeed at Holyrood have a lot to do, they only seem to have been able to appeal to their core voters, which is no longer enough.
    The seem to have lost at least some of their more able MSPs (relative)
    They require new blood, but from where has to be the question?
    If they are serious about re-emerging as a viable Government at Holyrood, they require to completely revamp there selection process, find a positive message, develop some policies that are there own, reorganise at branch level. But most importantly they have to stop this incessant negativity and opposition for opposition sake.

    Pitfalls for SNP
    Having an overall majority may not be a good thing for them, yes they will be able to force through there legislation, but I think one thing that resonated with many voters was there ability to build consensus, this gained them a lot of respect even from non SNP voters. I sense there that what people actually want is there politicians to behave in a adult and responsible manner.

  • Comment number 61.

    Ow forgot to say some of my visual memories of the results were.
    Nicola Sturgeon, before official announcement of her result, but after she had been told by the returning Officer, going over to her campaign team, waving the together and going into a huddle, obviously to tell them the result. This simple gesture said so much, firstly that she wanted to immediate share that with her team, secondly that the team immedaitly got into a huddle. What it said was TEAM, a group of people happy to be together and sharing.
    The second memorable image was during the night Salmond was being interviewed by a woman from the press, TV was just following him. Out of the corner of his eye he saw something and tried to get some else to do something, they did not so Salmond excused himself and did it himself. He went over to this older woman and had a word with her before they had a cuddle. Who was the woman? she was the original candidate for the SNP who because of health reasons had to stand down at the last minute. To me that simple gesture said a lot, it was about caring and ensuring that he said a proper goodnight to someone who had worked hard for the party, once again it also spoke volumes about team.

  • Comment number 62.

    Congratulations to all those first time SNP voters this morning.

    Well Done and hold your head high!

  • Comment number 63.

    If the Labour Party feels miserable on the basis of overall seats won by the SNP, then they'd better not go looking at the numbers of seats which the SNP didn't win, but came within 1000 votes of taking.

    It may have been a bad night for Labour, but looking at how close the SNP came to taking a bucket load of additional seats, it could've been a might worse.

  • Comment number 64.

    C'mon Alex call a referendum now if you have the bottle?

  • Comment number 65.

    The blow to both Labour (at Holyrood) and the Lib Dems is being understated I think. I just don't think people have quite realised what has happened here.

    Everyone knows Labours A-Listers (sic) are in Westminster.
    Well now there B-Listers have largley been swept away in Holyrood constituency defeats.
    There new List guys? Who knows? Probably can't be any worse than the last lot, but it's going to be tough for them. Especially if they have to keep Gray as leader due to there being virtually no-one else of any experience. Johan Lamont? Jackie Baillie? Ouch! There in for a few tough times I think.

    Lib-Dems?
    Crash! Bang! Wallop!
    How do you recover from that kind of wipeout in Scotland? 30 years on from 1979 the Tories still have not.
    What kind of membership / financial / and activist support are they going to muster over the next few years?
    The Dead Parrot sketch springs to mind.

  • Comment number 66.

    give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day.

    teach a man to fish and he'll feed himself for a lifetime.

    looks like Scots are now getting the hang of fishing.

  • Comment number 67.

    Brian,

    "Firstly, the impetus towards an independence referendum will be significantly enhanced.

    Secondly - and probably more immediately - there will be pressure for greater powers within the Scotland Bill, presently before Westminster."

    Aye Brian,

    Maybe now you'll have to listen to the poeple of Scotland. You have done your best to ignore, marginalise, mock and criticise our desires for self determination. No more.

    Firstly, the Scotland Bill. We don't want it at all. It is a unionist construct designed to emasculate the Holyrood parliament. It's less about more powers to Scotland and more about returning powers (that they shouldn't have in the first place) to westminster.

    Secondly, it would seem that a lot of people in Scotland don't want ruled by wesminster any more. We are demanding our say on the constitution, and the unionist will no longer be able to deny us. No longer will they be able to say the vast majority of Scots don't want independence. It's no longer true.

    WHAT A GREAT DAY FOR SCOTLAND!

  • Comment number 68.

    22. At 05:51am 6th May 2011, Ady wrote:
    "It's the council tax effect."

    Couldn't agree with you more but I doubt if Labour will get the message.
    As Clinton might have said: 'Its the Council Tax Stupid'

    I see that Tom McCabe has lost the Hamilton/Larkhall seat - my brother and his wife have both switched to SNP because of this issue as have a number of their friends - all Pensioners - all former Labour supporters who are fed up paying far more than their fair share of Local Taxation.

    Unfortunately John Scott has held the Ayr seat, despite 5 of us, (3 Pensioners), voting SNP over this issue, but I have to say he did come round the doors, the only one to put in an appearance, and his was the only leaflet delivered to my daughter's house, and my brother's house, although I received 1 SNP, 1 Labour and 3 Conservative.


    Brian,

    You should have stayed up. A great night for the SNP!!!!

    A bad night for Labour and a Terrible night for the LibDems - if ever there was a message sent to a Party from the Voters/Supporters regarding the consequences of 'Betrayal'.

  • Comment number 69.

    #64 InModeration

    Do we need a referendum?
    Didn't Tavish tell us that we could just vote for SNP in an election.
    If this turns into a majority, or even an SNP/Green/Margo majority - surely by Tavish's definition it's a done deal?

    Careful what you wish for Tavish!

  • Comment number 70.

    with 4 Regions declared could the Greens overtake the LibDems?

  • Comment number 71.

    Brian,

    There's a lot of talk about the libdem vote collapsing because of Nick Clegg. I'm not so sure that it is all down to Nick. I think a big finger must be ponted at Danny Alexander and his supercilious attitude to Scotland.

  • Comment number 72.

    The best strategy for Alex is to have a series of referendums which drive a wedge between London Control and Holyrood autonomy, easing Scotland away from the current situation.

    Something along the lines of:

    "Should Scotland have it's own independent tax raising powers" Y/N

    With only a few moves like this, the union could become a completely different animal from it's current form.

    Real power lies with those who control the flow of money.

    Alternatively he could just "go for it" and meet Cameron and Clegg for a punch up on the hard shoulder at Bannockburn.

  • Comment number 73.

    False smiles from Salmond. Now he actually has to deliver on his twice promised referendum.

    Of course, only one thing is worse than not delivering on 2 manifesto prmises from 2 elections.

    And that would be to lose the referendum.

    Pity that the election results are purely an anti labour smash - Scotland has not suddenly gone all "tartan & shortbread", as virtually every recent poll shows, independence is only wanted by a very small minority.

    So Alec - put up or shut up.

  • Comment number 74.

    Looks like massive congratulations are due to Alex Salmond and his team.

    A great, great day for the SNP which has been a long time coming and they are finally to get their reward for all their hard work.

  • Comment number 75.

    Labour are very far from finished, they still polled over 30% in the constituency. So lets not get ahead of ourselves.
    --------------------------------------------------

    Most of Labours support came from elderly British working class folk, Edinburgh Leith being a perfect example of a place with a very high pensioner population.
    Labour were wiped out everywhere else in Edinburgh, across the board.
    Labour has decimated the working classes over the last 30 years so it's a rapidly diminishing core resource they themselves have destroyed.

    Labour has become too old fashioned and needs to evolve, although there's so much dogma and so little talent in that organisation that they may have to take a back row seat until such time as the SNP make a mess of things.

  • Comment number 76.

    From the bbc live:
    "1109: "South, north, east and west, Labour is coming back", Ed Miliband tells an audience of supporters in Gravesend. "

    Err..that'll be north as far as the Scottish border I assume.

    Ed, we don't like wesminster public schoolboy career politicians up here in Scotland and it shows.

  • Comment number 77.

    Can someone please tell me how Annabel gets to be the leader of the the Tories in Scotland when between herself and Jackson Carlaw they managed around 35 thousand votes. Seems a bit nuts to me or don't the Tories have anyone else they can trust to do the job?

  • Comment number 78.

    From the bbc live:
    "1029: Laura Kuenssberg, chief political correspondent of the BBC News Channel, tweets: "John McTernan tells me Iain Gray won't be Labour leader in Scotland at next election.""

    Yes, but who will they be able to replace him with? Not much substance left on the labour bench.

  • Comment number 79.

    What result would you expect from a match if one team is fielding only its "B" team (due to the "A" team being committed to an "international" match) while the other team, having little interest in the 'foreign' league, fields its top quality A-team.....?

    Cash Hughes

  • Comment number 80.

    73. At 11:11am 6th May 2011, daviecooper1 wrote:
    "independence is only wanted by a very small minority."

    I think you coud be as wrong there as the labour (north british branch) party.

  • Comment number 81.

    Over 7000 majority for SNP in Caithness.

  • Comment number 82.

    daviecooper1:

    #73.

    Your a bit early. I was wondering when the first individuals to appear and assert complete and utter nonsense that seems to represent reality as we currently understand it.

    "Of course, only one thing is worse than not delivering on 2 manifesto prmises from 2 elections. And that would be to lose the referendum."

    This is of course nonsense. Labour and the Liberal Democrats have continually attacked the SNP regards to independence because it does put some voters off. If the SNP were to loose a referendum (although any and all powers handed over to Holyrood is a victory for nationalists) it would finally end the nagative sacremongering during elections. It may actually benefit the SNP. Of course, we may actually win it.

    "Pity that the election results are purely an anti labour smash - Scotland has not suddenly gone all "tartan & shortbread", as virtually every recent poll shows, independence is only wanted by a very small minority."

    Your comment above is the biggest nonsense so far on these boards. The Labour vote accross Scotland has only fell about roughly 0.6%. Some seats their votes actually increased over 5% and the SNP still managed to take the seats.

    I don't know what is happening over there on planet mars but come back to earth and join the rest of us in the real world.

    So Alec - put up or shut up.

  • Comment number 83.

    Ouch!
    Lib Dem Wipeout in Caithness.
    SNP mopping them up everywhere.
    Highlands, Borders, Lanarkshire, North East, Tayside, Glasgow, Edinburgh, Central

    No Party has ever done that. Even when Labour were returning 50+ MPs to Westminster it had no go areas.

  • Comment number 84.

    Just heard John Mason on the radio say that not only did he want a referendum on independence, but on a lot of other issues as well. He said that if politicians wanted people to become involved in politics this was the way to go.

    I couldn't agree more. The traditional uk politics only wants your vote, not your say. It is time, especially in this new communications age that ALL people had more of a say in things, not just at election time. We might even get some joined up thinking into politics this way. Switzerland is a great example of how it can be done.

  • Comment number 85.

    #78. At 11:24am 6th May 2011, X_Sticks wrote:
    From the bbc live:
    "1029: Laura Kuenssberg, chief political correspondent of the BBC News Channel, tweets: "John McTernan tells me Iain Gray won't be Labour leader in Scotland at next election.""

    Fortunately for the SNP McTernan will still be around at the next election spouting his mono-occular New Labourism and advising SLAB to 'go more negative'.

  • Comment number 86.

    The legacy of Maggie Thatcher is coming home to roost...
    Maybe she did do something useful for Scottish society after all.

    I'm looking forward to any interviews with Malcom Rifkind, he's good for a laff.

  • Comment number 87.

    From bbc live:
    "1157: Asked about the possibility of a referendum on Scottish independence, David Cameron says he "believes passionately in our United Kingdom" and while he congratulates Alex Salmond on his "emphatic win", he will fight with "every fibre that I have" to keep the United Kingdom together."

    The treasury in london must be getting very worried. Without Scottish oil and whisky to support the trough what will they do? Westminster blackops will be working flat out to find any and every way possible to "scotch" our referendum.

  • Comment number 88.

    #56 AlastairGordon

    Perhaps I should've said:

    "By sending their best talents to Westminster, leaving second-rate constituency candidates & third-raters on their regional list, Labour have treated Holyrood with contempt. Now the Tories have a greater number of a high calibre here."

    Annabelle Goldie & David McLetchie have a wealth of experience which will give the Conservatives a better grasp of Scottish politics than Labour can expect for themselves.

  • Comment number 89.

    Oi, BBC, please update the map etc here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/special/election2011/overview/html/scotland.stm - it's almost 2 hours out of date!

  • Comment number 90.

    NOTICE: Friday 5th May 2011.

    Your favourite Scottish news site was taken offline this morning.
    Last night we incurred corruption to our files which severely affected the site performance.
    We are working to get it back online as soon as possible but in the meantime, you can find us on Twitter or Facebook.

    Thanks for your understanding.

  • Comment number 91.

    From the bbc live:
    "1224: James Forsyth, writing on the Spectator's Coffee House blog, says one of the big stories of the night is the return of Scottish politics to the national stage - after being "pretty much ignored since devolution". "It'll be fascinating to see how Cameron handles the prospect of a referendum on independence. Will he argue, as some constitutional scholars argue, that the Scottish parliament doesn't have the power to hold a vote on independence?" he writes."

    Aye, Dave, just try that argument. And that'll be "constitutional scholars" from westminster I assume.

  • Comment number 92.

    Trolls are out in force today. Sour Plums must be catnip for them

  • Comment number 93.

    @69

    Absolutely spot on. That was Tavish's stance on the TV debate. Gonna u-turn on that opinion Tavish?? Careful what you wish for indeed.

    Bring on the referendum.

    Absolutely smashing night and day.

  • Comment number 94.

    Thank you :D

  • Comment number 95.

    Just give Scotland and Scots full independence. Raise own taxes to pay for own policies. No annoying attendance at Westminster - no reliance on tax subsides from England. Full freedom and complete disconnection from Westminster in every way, shape and form.

    Go for it Scotland - full independence and become a potential tax haven too. No VAT would be a good start - imagine all those shoppers south of the border shopping in Scotland! Bring it on!

  • Comment number 96.

    Dear Sir
    It would seem from very afar that your reading of the bones and tea-leaves apropos the Holyrood elections for the next and continuing Scottish government were somewhat off the mark (despite your oft-voiced, poetic certainties beamed, de temps en temps, from your bunker in Pacific Quay: Ironic given the lack of pacifism on matters electoral by the Scottish populace).

    May I ask you, when you blog - if ever again - will you attempt an empirico-scientific analysis of these democratic events?


    May I also enquire if the whispering susurrations borne upon the winds far across the continents unto even Asian archipelagos are the echoes of some BBC personnel retrieving coats and personal effects - including the most gallous of pendulously suspending braces - to join Mr Marcus Gardham Esq on his journey south of the Watford Gap? There to seek alternative PR employment or pass a bowl around the producers of Eastenders or Coronation Street?

    I wish you well, sir, in your future fictional endeavours.

    With new-borning, Spring time greetings from Tokyo

    Etc, etc

  • Comment number 97.

    Time for the SNP to carry on positive campaign into gracious victory. A 3-year review leading to an independence referendum. End the lies from vested interests that it would be a disaster for Scotland and that we dont currently pay our way in the UK. An independent review will soon show that to be the tawdry fib that it is.

    Who knows what an independence referendum result would be, but the Scottish people are nearly ready for it - give us the right information and we'll make the choice that makes most sense.

    As an aside, note the irony of the Tory mantra that FPTP is best, but their leading MSPs need the list system as a backstop, having lost in the FPTP bit!

  • Comment number 98.

    All we need now is total wipe out in North East Fife for the Lib Dems - job done!!

  • Comment number 99.

    60+ SNP

  • Comment number 100.

    Let's hope this is the begining of the end of the union!

 

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