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"Running rings"

Betsan Powys | 07:20 UK time, Wednesday, 9 July 2008

Was Don Touhig ever a fan of the deal his party struck with Plaid Cymru to stay in government? No, of course he wasn't.

Is the fact that he's making his distaste for it public? No, of course it isn't. He was firmly opposed to the idea then and is no more a fan of it now.

But this time he isn't saying quite the same thing. He's not saying he doesn't like the deal. He's saying that over the past twelve months, Labour have failed to heed the warning he and others sounded that if they had to reach out and bring Plaid Cymru into government, they had to make equally sure they didn't let their junior partners make too much hay.

Let's face it: it worked with the Liberal Democrats, who - Rhodri Morgan himself believes -advised Plaid directly and bluntly to play it differently, to get in there and spin, to make every effort to persuade the public that the tail was wagging (or should that be WAGging) the dog.

That's exactly what Plaid have done. Just look at the two press statements the two governing parties released to mark one year of One Wales. Labour concentrated on delivery, on the work Labour Ministers have been putting in over the past year. Plaid? Ieuan Wyn Jones knew he'd ruffle Labour feathers by claiming it was Plaid who had set "a new Welsh agenda".

And what about that very term, One Wales government? From the start it's the name Plaid gave to the coalition government. It was in their early press statements, on their lips in press conferences. Labour went for Labour-led coalition. What, now, is the official name on government documentation and glossy backdrops? One Wales government.

That's what Don Touhig calls "running rings" round Labour.

Tonight Plaid celebrate their first year in government with a £50.00 a head dinner in one of Cardiff's trendiest hotels. If you fancy taking up "a sponsorship opportunity" you get "great benefits" thrown in "including 2 tickets on the top table, a thank you from a senior party figure, a chance to address the dinner with a short speech, and space for pop ups".

Labour get on with the job of sorting out plummeting membership and the party structure in Wales, as well as telling Don Touhig that they think he's wrong.

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  • 1. At 1:04pm on 09 Jul 2008, CymroCoch wrote:

    Here's the man from AUNTIE again, anti anything thats positive for Wales.

    This is simply to deflect from the mess of his RIGHT WING anti-workers governemnt.

    Political Parties are simply PLC's in disguise. Would we expect anyone in the Labour party to say that Plaid, Tories or Lib Dem are good at something?

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  • 2. At 1:53pm on 09 Jul 2008, -Drachenfyre- wrote:

    In essence, Don Touhig has it right!

    I think the past year demonstrates that Plaid can be the governing party of Wales, or at least a significant part of any coalition.

    Coalition governments should not be dismissed, the Netherlands is routinely governmed by coalitions.

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  • 3. At 2:41pm on 09 Jul 2008, Crossroads wrote:

    The scheming antics of Plaid Cymru during this wasted year of coalition rule has turned me back in favour of the first past the post system.

    Plaid Cymru are a busted flush.

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  • 4. At 10:17pm on 09 Jul 2008, Lyn David Thomas wrote:

    LOL wonderful Noah, you have a talent for comedy. On the day that a Labour Grandee expresses his horror of the coalition because of how effective the Plaid ministers have been you suggest that Plaid have contributed to a "wasted year"... So you would prefer first past the post where Labour would have a perpetual majority in the National Assembly based on just over 1/3 of of the vote... excellent, as a said a talent for comedy.

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  • 5. At 11:43am on 10 Jul 2008, -Drachenfyre- wrote:

    As Labour loses in Westminister, look for Welsh Labour to be more favorable to all aspects of Develution.

    According to Professor John Davies, hiostorically Labour supports devolution only when it is out of power in London. With this next referendum on further powers for the Assembly pending, expect Welsh Labour to support it more fully.

    As Kirk Dougles said in 'the Vikings', better to rule as a King, even in Wales,' rather then as a second son (of the King of Norway).

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  • 6. At 12:28pm on 10 Jul 2008, Dewi_H wrote:

    Drachenfyre - did Kirk really say that ?? - We are ruling in his family now LOL !!!

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  • 7. At 12:45pm on 10 Jul 2008, labour_cronie wrote:

    MMM,

    Don opposes a proper parliment

    A proper Welsh parliment would mean less Welsh MP's

    Therefore Don could lose his seat!

    Any connection to this story?

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/2247952/Expenses-reform-rebel-minister-made-and163200%2C000-from-flat.html

    or this one?

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/2243284/Sketch-The-parliamentary-sweat-shop.html

    or how about this one

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/2242795/MP-expenses-Who-employs-family-members.html

    Looks like you have a lot to lose Don

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  • 8. At 2:13pm on 10 Jul 2008, -Drachenfyre- wrote:

    Dewi_H wrote:
    Drachenfyre - did Kirk really say that ?? - We are ruling in his family now LOL !!!

    In a curious twist of fate, Kirk's son Micheal Dougles did marry a 'Welsh princess' of sorts with Catherine Zeta-Jones!

    The Vikings was a movie primarily about Northumbria, and I havent seen it in a long while. But yes, basically, the idea was that Krik's character would become King of Wales, rather then a second-son elsewhere.

    I need to go check out that movie again! lol.

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  • 9. At 3:57pm on 10 Jul 2008, Crossroads wrote:

    Oh dear Lyn_Thomas, you're at it again. Plaid Cymru really have done nothing for the people of Wales in the past year.

    Oh yes there has been the usual bluff and bluster, the usual posturing of Plaid Cymru AMs, but really the results don't amount to a dollop of uncooked laverbread.

    Your closet Plaid supporter, Dodgy Rhodri, has bent over backwards to make you appear in a good light, but alas to no avail.

    The people of Wales will judge you when the referendum on further powers comes along. Plaid Cymru should prepare themselves for disappointment. For, in spite of calling a referendum at a time which they consider to be favourable to them, the whole disaster of devolution will be swept away at the ballot box.

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  • 10. At 4:19pm on 10 Jul 2008, legendaryavocet wrote:

    You nats won't be happy until the great wall goes up along the length of Offa's Dyke, the English are prevented from coming in, the Welsh are prevented from leaving and all English-speaking Welsh people are forced to learn to speak Welsh - Oh, I forgot it's happening now.

    How divisive this devolution has been!

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  • 11. At 4:53pm on 10 Jul 2008, -Drachenfyre- wrote:

    Rhodri is a Closet Plaid Suporter? Oh my! Dont tell his wife! lol. He needs to come out of the closet!

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  • 12. At 5:14pm on 10 Jul 2008, Dewi_H wrote:

    "the English are prevented from coming in"

    To quote the Encyclopaedia of Wales (Sixty blasted quid from any old bookshop,...)

    "The English, Wales's largest ethnic minority...In 2001, 20.3% (598,000) of the populationof Wales had been born in England...."

    Whatever section of the WAG that is "preventing" English people coming in obviosly needs a shake up. If such a section exists outside Avocet's imagination of course....

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  • 13. At 5:31pm on 10 Jul 2008, -Drachenfyre- wrote:

    legendaryavocet wrote:
    You nats won't be happy until the great wall goes up along the length of Offa's Dyke, the English are prevented from coming in, the Welsh are prevented from leaving and all English-speaking Welsh people are forced to learn to speak Welsh - Oh, I forgot it's happening now.

    How divisive this devolution has been!


    What is interesting about Offa's Dyke, According to Historians John Davies and Cyrcil Fox, is that it could not have gone up without the agreement of both the Welsh and the English.... and was not ment to be a solid wall like Hadrian's Wall.

    It was ment simply to mark the border between Mercia and Wales. It was pourous, with trade and cultural links between the Welsh and the Anglo-Saxons.

    And we know what they say about fences?
    "good fences make good neighbors".

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