Julius Malema loves golf. Not playing it, of course. Just hanging out in the clubhouse - especially Wentworth in Surrey, Britain - drinking and messing around with his friends. He's a big fan of nightclubs too - but not football.
I learned all this, sitting in Mr Malema's sparse, handsome corner office on the seventh floor of the African National Congress's headquarters in the centre of Johannesburg. The country's most outspoken, notorious, divisive political figure had kept me and our television crew waiting for about four hours in his assistant's room while he plotted party strategy with his colleagues from the ruling ANC's youth league.
Eventually, Mr Malema ushered us in. A photograph of Nelson Mandela in combat gear hung proudly behind his bare desk.
In person, the plump 29-year-old can be charming, frank and funny. He talks with confidence and authority - about his desire to make money, his three-year-old son, golf, revolution, racial divisions, Robert Mugabe, and his life-long devotion to the ANC. He is clearly no fool. But he is also domineering, slippery, quick to lash out, and almost as quick to the play the "race card."
I'm not entirely sure why he agreed to speak to the BBC. His recent behaviour towards a colleague of mine inspired several dance hits but didn't do Mr Malema much good. As he made clear early on in our interview, he still regards the organisation as "imperialist".
But it's been a bumpy few weeks for Mr Malema. Fined, shamed, forced to attend political education and anger management classes by the ANC for undermining the party - was he looking to mend some fences? I'm not sure that's his style. But here, in no particular order are what I'd consider the highlights of about 40 minutes' frank discussion.
• "I didn't let myself down." Mr Malema steadfastly refused to admit any wrongdoing. When it boiled down to a simple "yes or no", he brushed the question aside, saying: "Yes or no doesn't work with me."
• "I'm open to new things." He laughed off his various punishments, saying anger management didn't sound very "African" and as for political education classes - "if you punish me with what I like, I must celebrate." He made it clear that the only thing that mattered was his continued membership of the ANC. "I'm an ordinary man. I'm not above the ANC... Many of you are disappointed that I'm still sitting here."
• "Never rely on an individual." This was the main lesson he said he'd learned from the disciplinary experience - a clear reference to the power-struggles within the ANC. He refused to say to whom he was referring. "I don't want to be a gossip." He vowed to continue backing President Zuma. "We will continue to support him until the ANC tells us not to."
• "I will make considerations." This was how he described his apparent climb-down on singing the inflammatory line "kill the Boer". He agreed that he "might" cut those words out of the song, and in fact he has already begun singing "kiss the Boer" in public. Later he scathingly referred to Helen Zille, the white premier of the Western Cape and leader of the opposition Democratic Alliance, as "that beautiful queen of yours".
• "You don't know Mandela." Not for the first time, he said he was being groomed to continue Mandela's legacy, and spoke about the former president's early radical role within the ANC.
• "We must never use violence." He praised President Mugabe's programme of land seizures as "very good except the violent part of it," and insisted that South Africa was heading in the same direction. He said the government here could not afford to pay market prices for farm land and therefore expropriations, and "take it or leave it" flat payments were the way forward.
• "We know what kind of work the imperialists are doing amongst our people." He insisted that nationalisation was on the ANC's "agenda", and spoke with real passion of the "racial divisions in this country," where "the gaps between the haves and have-nots grows - and it's racialised. Those who become more poor are black and Africans. Those who become rich are white. I'm fighting that. There's no racism in that."
• "I'm not going anywhere." Malema said he had another five years in the ANC's Youth League. He brushed aside, rather unconvincingly, talk of presidential ambitions, and said he wanted to spend more time with his son, and "lead the youth from the front in business." He insisted there was "nothing wrong" in combining business and politics, although "sometimes you get screwed there by your own people because money has got no ethics."