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The One Show Team | 14:47 UK time, Friday, 6 November 2009

Chris Evans with Adrian and Christine

Adrian and Christine were joined by star DJ and presenter Chris Evans.

Adrian and Christine with Miss World contestantsMiss Northern Ireland, Miss England, Miss Scotland, Miss Wales... and many more Miss World contestants were also in the studio.

Kaye Adams met a squaddie who is facing a court martial after he went Absent Without Leave because he didn't want to fight in a war he doesn't agree with. 

Should enlisted soldiers have the right to decide which wars they fight in?

For BBC Children in Need, Dan Snow and Doctor Sarah Jarvis faced singing Dancing Queen by Abba live to the nation.

Ellie Harrison introduced us to a long-haired dachshund who, like most dogs, finds the firework season terrifying.

Lucy Siegle told us about The Rent a Room scheme.

Zig and Zag made an appearance, in their video message to Chris.

Des Coleman talked to Scaffold members Roger McGough, Mike McCartney and John Gorman about their number one hit Lily the Pink.

In the New Forest, Mike Dilger showed us just a few of the 12,000 varieties of fungi that grow in the UK.

For all the controversy around it, the Miss World contest is still around. Paddy O'Connell met the beautiful people.

And in monk news, evidence has emerged that medieval monks were better fed than previously thought. Christopher Biggins investigated.

Have a great weekend! We'll see you on Monday.

What did you think of the show? Add your comment.


  • 1. At 7:10pm on 06 Nov 2009, Nigel Foster wrote:


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  • 2. At 7:10pm on 06 Nov 2009, Ian wrote:

    Can't believe the BBC and the One show giving air time to a coward. He shouldn't have signed up if he didn't want to be deployed and still after could easily bang his notice in. As the saying goes "If you can't take the S*** don't draw the kit".

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  • 3. At 7:11pm on 06 Nov 2009, lab-rat wrote:

    It's a volunteer army. If he disobeys orders he'll be charged and if found guilty sentenced and dishonourably discharged. If you can't do the time, don't do the crime.

    Maybe if the BBC did its job and actually reported regularly on Iraq and Afghanistan instead of celebrity nonsense the situation would be better understood. Maybe not. I forgot for a moment you're the pinko BBC who have been supporting anti-War groups for decades since they were founded and funded by the Soviet Union.

    Oh please! The Rowntree trust. You must be kidding me. An organisation founded by a Quaker writes a report critical of the Army. And in the News the Pope is Catholic.

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  • 4. At 7:12pm on 06 Nov 2009, mick jack wrote:

    Your team should all download and watch the documentary
    LOOSE CHANGE (ON GOOGLE) and then Discuss again What is happening
    in the World, In my opinion as 71 year old ex serviceman this war cannot be won,

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  • 5. At 7:14pm on 06 Nov 2009, Paul Holdsworth wrote:

    You've done it again! A piece about dogs being frightened by fireworks with firework noises on the film!!! My dog is now hiding.

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  • 6. At 7:15pm on 06 Nov 2009, MissFabulous wrote:

    Is it just me or does the lovely Adrian Chiles look like Pob the children's character?

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  • 7. At 7:16pm on 06 Nov 2009, Trevor F wrote:

    Why does Chris Evans look more and more like TinTin every time i see him???

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  • 8. At 7:16pm on 06 Nov 2009, Michael Rowley wrote:

    I think it is appalling that the BBC which relies on money from us can even contemplate interviewing a complete coward, i am in the forces and think that it is disgusting that he is made out to be a hero by anti war protestors when the REAL heroes are dying on the front line. He joined the Army and regardless of waht his beliefs are he signed on the dotted line, what does he think we do in tha Army, play toy soldiers and have fun. We protect this country and every occupant in it because taht is what we signed up to do, be it in our homeland or away in foreign lands. He needs to get a grip of his life and i seriously hope he does a lot of time for what he has done.

    A miffed and disgruntled but highly proud serving member of Her Majesties Forces

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  • 9. At 7:19pm on 06 Nov 2009, Shirley wrote:

    The "sound phobia" report would have been better without the fireworks as I had to keep turning the TV to mute as my dog was in the room and terrified!

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  • 10. At 7:19pm on 06 Nov 2009, Graeme wrote:

    Why is the BBC giving airtime to such a coward, irregardless of whether this is a war we should be in is not a question for a soldier to decide on. If he wants to make that decision then he should do the honourable thing and leave the army, dont desert your comrades.
    The only thing this guy should get publicly is a white feather. The man is a complete coward and does not deserve anyones time or sympathy.

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  • 11. At 7:21pm on 06 Nov 2009, ANDY wrote:

    As a regular viewer please:
    1. get Adran to close his legs. I dont need to see a small pouch of denim while eating my sausage and chips;
    2. For heavens sake get your on show hairdresser to tie Kaye Adams to a chair and CUT THAT BUSH!!!!

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  • 12. At 7:23pm on 06 Nov 2009, Nigel wrote:

    I cannot believe that to create a link to the subject of animals being scared of fireworks you show, complete with sound effects - fireworks.
    We are keeping our three cats in with the TV turned up to stop them from hearing any outside and what do the BBC do? put them on the television. I cannot believe how dumb some staff in broadcasting can be. Absolutely unbelievable. Thanks One show for scaring the hell out of our cats!

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  • 13. At 7:23pm on 06 Nov 2009, philip finch wrote:

    why have this coward on your programme? It is an insult to all the servicemen either serving now or in the past that this 'man' should get so much air time. I really hope that when he comes up for his courts martial, they send him down for ten years. As for that bleeding heart who was on and did not look old enough to shave let alone make comments, saying that the army should explain to recruits that'it could get a bit rough at times and you just might have to shoot someone' but never mind you can always stay at home, never mind about letting your mates down. As a person in my 70s I despair!!

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  • 14. At 7:23pm on 06 Nov 2009, George Jones wrote:

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  • 15. At 7:25pm on 06 Nov 2009, nuts wrote:

    Did this Guy think he was joining the scouts not British Army an ARMED service. My Husband is a soldier and has been to Afghanistan twice. I think they should throw the book at Joe, bust him, stop paying him and then kick him out. Well done to all of our service personel that do what they are payed for with out B**ching about it.

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  • 16. At 7:26pm on 06 Nov 2009, George Jones wrote:

    Soldiers have to go to where they are sent, but they do have the right to refuse an order which they think is unlawful. Also can anyone explain why front-line troops are paid less than my Community-Bobby

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  • 17. At 7:27pm on 06 Nov 2009, Jim wrote:

    I am so disappointed that even on the One Show we are now getting the antiwar manipulation from the BBC. First it's the six o'clock news highlighting yet another carefully discovered parent upset about their son being in Afghanistan, then on the One Show it's the interview with the conscientious objector, one of very few as you acknowledged - so why give them such totally disproportionate airtime. You do manage to dig up the negative examples time after time. You, and many of the other media are continuing to bias your news against the war. The BBC should provide balanced reporting, and leave it to the political opposition to do its job. I do get so fed up of this, and most of the people I talk to feel just the same.

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  • 18. At 7:27pm on 06 Nov 2009, EmDubs83 wrote:

    That guy is weak and cannot handle it. He signed up to serve his country whatever it takes, not to get the willies when it got difficult and run home to Mummy. For him to refuse to go back put extra pressure on the rest of the guys in his Battalion. As if resources aren't stretched enough? There's too many do gooders willing to go 'Oh mate, don't worry.' Give over! He's got a job to do and needs to man up like the rest of the brave men and women out there, and go through the proper channels of Termination.

    1 BN Gren Gds we are sorry for your loss. Sleep Well Boys.

    'They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old:
    Age shall not weary them, nor the years contemn.
    At the going down of the sun and in the morning
    We will remember them.'


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  • 19. At 7:27pm on 06 Nov 2009, bulletcatcher wrote:

    This 'Boy' knew what he was joining when he signed up. It is not the Boy Scouts (Though,I doubt he would have liked that either!)

    The British Army is not a conscripted force. He volunteered. He would have known what was expected of him because he joined whilst the Iraq conflict was in full swing.

    I am surprised that the BBC say in one breathe that the forces are supported (thank you Chris Evans its great to hear you say that), but then give air time to an individual who is currently under investigation for a Military offence and allow him to undermine the discipline and good order of HM Forces.

    BBC, please don't give this individual air time whilst my mates, and soon to be me, are still or will be going to Afghan.
    RIP to ALL those who gave their lives. Rememberance day will soon be with us. Will this individual remember those who went to do THEIR DUTY that allowes him to refuse to do his DUTY! I doubt it

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  • 20. At 7:31pm on 06 Nov 2009, Carley wrote:

    The rent a room scheme - I rented my room out to a German guy, didn't have a change to meet him before he moved in but he seemed normal over the phone and when I mailed him. Meet him at the airport and went downhill from there!!
    He arrived and I wish that I did have a chance to meet him!! - Worst housemate ever! Bad Body odour, very messy and didn't respect the house in any way!

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  • 21. At 7:33pm on 06 Nov 2009, les boyes wrote:

    Good Evening I served in the Radfan\ Borneo and about 5/6 years in N/I and i never once had a thought of not going back.I dont want any medals because that is what i was paid for .The person you had on your show what a sad man/boy for not going back,he is the type of person who takes the money as long as there are no conflict.
    To show face in a bar anywhere even at his home how does he do it .They are cowards and there is no other explanation for their attitude. He should take a leaf out of the statement made by the sodiers wife,her husband was a bomb disposal expert all she said was what awonderful he was.
    I just feel so strongly about him coming on your show.

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  • 22. At 7:34pm on 06 Nov 2009, dirk_p wrote:

    Serving soldiers and ex-servicemen must be seething at your interview with the 'war protestor'. He didn't realise that he might have to fight in a war??? What the hell did he think the army was for? He should hang his head in shame. I bet he wouldn't have gone AWOL if he had a posting to somewhere exotic for training and I bet he's never complained about being given a secure job, training and a pension until he was actually asked to do the job he signed up for.
    It's simple - you are trained as soldiers and when you're called on to do that job that's what you do.... it's not just himself he's let down but the other soldiers who would have relied on him (as he would rely on them).

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  • 23. At 7:34pm on 06 Nov 2009, les boyes wrote:

    i agreed what a coward and sad man/boy

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  • 24. At 7:35pm on 06 Nov 2009, fangle wrote:

    This individual could always have resigned, however he clearly wished the money without the duty that requires. Shame on him!
    Shame on the BBC for giving this man airtime in the same week which 6 brave servicemen have lost their life. Why not focus on actual hero's who risk themselves daily to protect everyone rather than this thing who feeds off the celebrity his attachement to the Armed forces affords him

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  • 25. At 7:36pm on 06 Nov 2009, appichappi wrote:

    One show: great so far, but re those 2 singing - has got to be worth a huge donation to STOP them singing!!

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  • 26. At 7:39pm on 06 Nov 2009, les boyes wrote:


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  • 27. At 7:40pm on 06 Nov 2009, Michael Rowley wrote:

    I am sorry for posting another comment but i am so angry at the BBC for even allowing such a coward to be interviewed at this time of year. I will be placing 6 remembrance crosses in the ground this year, last year it was 3. one cross for every friend i have lost whilst we have been serving our country. I am ashamed that he can even class himself as a soldier and i seriosly hope he does a lengthy stretch of time, does he not even think about the fact that a soldier would have to replace and may well of died in the line of duty because he did not want to. if he cannot take orders then he should not of accepted and quoted the Oath of Allegiance.

    I am proud of my time that i have served and will forever remember my mates and all those that have fallen before them.

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  • 28. At 7:40pm on 06 Nov 2009, allyson wrote:

    Just drink it CHristine and stop being such a girl!

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  • 29. At 7:40pm on 06 Nov 2009, Kristina Rose wrote:

    I would just like to point out that on your show where you are talking about the Army and where the gentleman from rowntrees did a review saying that The Army was not making it clear about how dangerous the jobs are.
    I am a 20 year old girl who for the last year and abit has been going through my application process to join the Army .. All of the soliders I have come across from the start have been completely honest with myself and others that I have been with .. The dangers ARE listed to each new recruiter and if you are lucky enough to get through to part of the process of pre selection you actually spend time with soldiers who have served in both Afgan and Iraq.

    And to the Squaddie that doesnt want to go out to Afgan .. Do you honestly think re - shaping a country of the state Afgan is in, is going to happen over night? Without serving soldiers lives being lost? Without some innocent civilians lives being lost?
    You joined in 2004, maybe you should have thought about signing those papers a little clearly .. I don't believe anybody said the Army was going to be a walk in the park.

    RIP to ALL those who have given their lives past and present. And also a thought to all those serving out in Afgan at this time.

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  • 30. At 7:41pm on 06 Nov 2009, John Gibson wrote:

    As a member of the Armed Forces who served in the Falklands Northern Ireland and both Gulf Wars I think that the BBC should stop giving air time to cowards, deserters and the worst of all the real cowards who hide behind the skirts of conciencious objector.Its about time you got behind the lads who continue to serve, because you dont speak for them. They dont want to come back they want to serve they want to win. Your reporters are undermining their morale. If you want to know why things have gone pear shaped in Afghanistan you should seek out people like me who can tell you the truth and not the made up stuff you try to report.

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  • 31. At 7:42pm on 06 Nov 2009, steve wrote:

    In 1982 the armed forces were allowed to do the job that was asked of them because the PM at the time let us off the leash these days the lads are not allowed to do the job and it's costing them their comerads.
    the last thing the lads need is some white feather parading like a t**t.
    The public give these boys a sense of pride and they grow ten feet to see you all lining the streets, I know I have been there so support the boys give them the sense of pride.

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  • 32. At 7:44pm on 06 Nov 2009, barry Tebbs wrote:

    What a disgrace to show a solder refusing to go back to Afghanistan in the same week that five solders are killed in action. What must these families’s think in their personal greave to see a fellow service men refusing to go back because he does not agree with the situation. A solder is expected to do his lawful duty regardless of his own feelings.
    barry Tebbs

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  • 33. At 7:44pm on 06 Nov 2009, steve wrote:

    In 1982 the armed forces were allowed to do the job that was asked of them because the PM at the time let us off the leash these days the lads are not allowed to do the job and it's costing them their comerads.
    the last thing the lads need is some white feather parading like a t**t.
    The public give these boys a sense of pride and they grow ten feet to see you all lining the streets, I know I have been there so support the boys give them the sense of pride they deserve.
    From A crew member of the black messenger of deth 1982

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  • 34. At 7:44pm on 06 Nov 2009, Helen wrote:

    Does the One Show not have a standard way to wear a poppy? Christine's is on the right and everyone else's is on the left - can we not have a unified front?

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  • 35. At 7:44pm on 06 Nov 2009, Helen wrote:

    Oh my goodness, Zig and Zag are like puppets of John & Edward from X Factor!!! They have the accent and the excessive talking!

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  • 36. At 7:49pm on 06 Nov 2009, lab-rat wrote:

    It never surprises me how woefully intolerant feminists are of women who want to be different and do things that aren't on the feminist's list of acceptable activities.

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  • 37. At 7:50pm on 06 Nov 2009, GAZ911 wrote:

    Being Miss world:

    Good points: you get to travel the world

    Bad points: you get to marry Bruce Forsyth

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  • 38. At 7:52pm on 06 Nov 2009, bella wrote:

    The dress that Christine is wearing rivals most of the Miss Worlds ... it is absolutely beautiful, does anyone know where it is from?!

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  • 39. At 7:53pm on 06 Nov 2009, steve wrote:

    Looking at the posts on this site it appear that all of us ex and serving and not forgetting the young lass joining have one thing to say GO BACK TO MUMMY prat

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  • 40. At 7:54pm on 06 Nov 2009, juliefogg wrote:

    Adrian - you were like an embarrassing uncle with those miss world contestants!

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  • 41. At 7:55pm on 06 Nov 2009, GAZ911 wrote:


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  • 42. At 7:59pm on 06 Nov 2009, Gordon Bell wrote:

    yes they should have the right if our generals can leave becaouse of afghanistan then what do our boys have to go through, if you have not been to war don't coment.

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  • 43. At 8:01pm on 06 Nov 2009, John Gibson wrote:

    Typical not one email against your reporting, typical BBC take the fee for substandard television but dont represent your real supporters. Without us or our forebears we would be speaking German. Shame on you all.

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  • 44. At 8:01pm on 06 Nov 2009, Bryan Dawe wrote:

    As an ex National Serviceman who served in the army in 1956/1958 and we did not volunteer we were conscripted and had no choice in the matter. My father paid the ultimate price in the second world war as a prisoner of the Jap's and died in appalling conditions. He had no choice nor did the thousands of other lads who died. He had a choice but chose to run away and left his friends without someone looking out for them. He ought to be ashamed of himself

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  • 45. At 8:12pm on 06 Nov 2009, djwhatsoccurin wrote:

    Enjoyable show-Fridays ones are always a bit more relaxed-interesting article about the soldier-we have to consider that he was not conscripted-he signed a contract-if his boss offered him an alternative posting to the Falklands would he agree to that?-it is just not on is it when it is probable that some colleagues he trained with have been injured or killed in action in Afghanistan.
    Nice to see the Scaffold-bit of nostalgia-Dr Sarah well up to the Abba challenge-giving evening surgery a miss again!-Adrian sat there legs apart in Alpha Male pose, probably flatulating-when will he realise that we are laughing AT not WITH him-thank god for Christine.

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  • 46. At 8:16pm on 06 Nov 2009, Rinty wrote:

    Reading the comments above registering their unanimous disgust restores my faith in this country, makes me feel humble and proud.

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  • 47. At 8:16pm on 06 Nov 2009, appichappi wrote:

    Gaz911 post 41:

    Great idea - whoever thought of the mute button! Brave of him, but I think that was the last straw for all those dogs in hiding due to the fireworks... they're now queueing up at the vets begging to be put down!

    Great to see the Scaffold.

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  • 48. At 8:24pm on 06 Nov 2009, highland fling wrote:

    Good show tonight, well done to all!Christine looking great, lovely dress .Enjoyed Chris Evans and the Miss World contestants were gorgeous .I must be easily pleased, never noticed Adrians seating arrangement ?or Christines poppy?and even to poor Kaye Adams hair ?which I thought was fine ,however when I think of my Father and Grandfather joining the army at barely 16 years old , lying about there age just to join !then to have to return to Korea another war that made little sense .so have to agree with posts against the soldier Kaye interviewed , he should be ashamed to talk about it on TV.Dan has a dreadful voice, but good sport and for a good cause .Good mix tonight, even gave up Corrie to watch !

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  • 49. At 8:40pm on 06 Nov 2009, GAZ911 wrote:

    Re 47 I think to redress the balance of tonights show there should to a feature on hearing impaired dogs next week.Because after tonight they've probably doubled.


    Second house on the left just past the church

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  • 50. At 8:43pm on 06 Nov 2009, sky_viewer wrote:

    Adrian falling apart (talking about the bad weather LOL!) and Christine's reactive comments while meeting the Miss World contestants were priceless. Adrian - don't worry - think I'd have been the same!

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  • 51. At 8:46pm on 06 Nov 2009, djwhatsoccurin wrote:

    Sorry forgot to mention the item about house sharing-seems that to avoid sharing your house with someone who turns into Jack Nicolson in Shining mode you have to do a police CRB check-as far as I know there is no process wherby an individual can do this on another individual even with their permission, otherwise we would all be doing it!

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  • 52. At 9:03pm on 06 Nov 2009, jaggyman wrote:

    Hi Adrian,
    Great show this evening. I must admire you for sneaking in a very subtle comment about your admiration for the Miss World contestants!!
    "Like a one eyed cat in a seafood market"!!
    This is a well known sexual reference in blues and rock 'n' roll music, as used in the song "Shake Rattle 'n' Roll"
    No doubt your researchers will enlighten you as to its meaning if you have not already "googled" the reference!!
    This is NOT repeat NOT a complaint, but rather an expression of approval for a clever, but perhaps unintentional, use of the English language!!

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  • 53. At 9:10pm on 06 Nov 2009, jadedoldie wrote:

    I never thought the day would come when I agreed with Adrian about anything, but I did tonight re his comments about the "soldier" who chose not to support his comrades. Chiles did seem to genuinely care about the fact the chap chose to renege on his acceptance of Army principles. Just one other little thing, I don't care which side you wear your poppy, as long as you wear one, but last night someone chose to take Christine to task for wearing hers as a corsage. I believe that it is usual for a woman to wear her poppy on the right, the same side as a widow would wear her husbands medals, apart from female members of the Forces, who would wear theirs on the left. Not important in my eyes,but I did feel Christine should be defended!

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  • 54. At 9:14pm on 06 Nov 2009, gary wrote:

    lilly the pink brilliant but the pompey version we have been singing for 30 years is far better
    a drink a drink a drink
    2 david the kemp the kemp the kemp
    the saviour of
    the portsmouth forward line
    so we gave him
    a little white football
    now hes scoring all the time
    anthem down here fellas!

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  • 55. At 9:37pm on 06 Nov 2009, oneeyedjack wrote:

    I can understand why people may disagree with the army guy who went AWOL, but the BBC is absolutely right in showing him try to explain his position. There are two sides to a story,whether right or wrong, love him or loathe him,he deserves to be heard.

    Good show tonight and enjoyed the rap between A&C.

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  • 56. At 9:43pm on 06 Nov 2009, WebMillie wrote:

    That's fine Jadegoldie if you don't care what side the poppy is worn - I don't suppose it does matter to you. But have you seen anyone else else wearing it on the right? It is irritating to those of us who DO care.

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  • 57. At 9:45pm on 06 Nov 2009, oneeyedjack wrote:



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  • 58. At 9:51pm on 06 Nov 2009, jadedoldie wrote:

    Post 56, try watching the memorial services, and I think you failed to understand that the wearing of the poppy is important to me, the nit-picking isn't.

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  • 59. At 9:53pm on 06 Nov 2009, Sheena Marsh wrote:

    I am incensed about some of the messages about the soldier who refuses to fight. It is time some-one took a stand. How many more brave young men and women will have to die before we pull out of Afghanistan. History has already shown it is a battle we can never win. 230 people have died and thousands are maimed. How many of these 230 can Gordon Brown or our useless defence secretary name. How many funerals have ministers attended? Oh sorry, far too busy checking that Susan Boyle hasn't been traumatised by appearing on TV.

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  • 60. At 9:54pm on 06 Nov 2009, scuzzy983 wrote:

    I really enjoyed the show tonight - especially Miss Norway. Yes PLEEEASE! ;-)

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  • 61. At 10:04pm on 06 Nov 2009, djwhatsoccurin wrote:

    59-in the 1970s there were quite a few American films about soldiers refusing to fight in Vietnam-this also was seen as an unjust war but the difference was that young males were being conscripted into it-they were not professional soldiers-once professional soldiers sign up they have to accept they may have to fight in Afghanistan, peace-keep in Bosnia or drive green goddess fire engines in London-that is the nature of the work-tonights item could have been balanced by interviewing, an injured soldier or a bereaved relative to ascertain their views-if the war is seen as unjust then this has to be discussed as part of the democratic process,and is not solved by soldiers opting out.

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  • 62. At 10:21pm on 06 Nov 2009, Richard Kellaway wrote:

    Why give all that space to a coward.

    In my day he would still be locked up in the guardroom waiting for his trial.

    A nation of wimps you seem to condone

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  • 63. At 10:25pm on 06 Nov 2009, Richard Kellaway wrote:


    No. That man does not need to be heard. He can do his whimpering before the Courts marshall

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  • 64. At 10:26pm on 06 Nov 2009, Richard Kellaway wrote:

    A few years in Colchester will sort him out

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  • 65. At 10:31pm on 06 Nov 2009, oneeyedjack wrote:


    Disliking a war that probably can never be won, has nothing whatever to do with being a wimp.

    Britain being in Afghanistan, is the biggest, most pointless waste of good lives.

    To those who suggest that a soldier should follow all orders without question, may I remind them of the slaughter of the Jews in Germany, the Muslims in the Balkans et al- honest gov! I was just following orders.

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  • 66. At 10:48pm on 06 Nov 2009, Yolande Hillman wrote:

    Hi Guys,

    I wish to God, part of the tonights programmed was aired near 10days ago,, the bit that showed how terrified dogs are of noise ie fireworks etc.. I took our pup out for a walk quick little stroll just as I came from work Wed 28th Oct-09 as I do normally, most times it would be me and my partner but he was on his way home from work and I wanted to give her the walk before it was pitched black,, It was just gone 5:15Pm Anyway it wasn't going to be a long walk as she loves when we throw the ball and I would haven't been able to find it once after half hour or so was pass,, I took her on a field near our home, we were about 15-20 mins in our exercise when suddenly some lunatics start to set off fire works,, as she was my first pet, her 1st birthday was 31-Oct-09 I would consider myself to be an inexperience dog owner just learning as we went a long, after about 3-4 silly fireworks went off and my beautiful pup just took off and she ran out off the field cross three main roads rang for about 2-3 miles and was later killed, we had the dreadful news the next morning ,, Our hearts are still broken, now I detest fireworks I never liked it much before, my views were people was just burning money and they talk about the country going through reccesion makes you think.. Some people dont realise the knock on effects thier actions have on other people lives, because of this horrible ordeal it make me and my family think about our actions before we attempt to so them.. God I so wish I was more aware of the do's and donts in regards to owning pets.. We learnt the hard way, we are now looking to buy a another pup of the type, she a was white and tan Parson jack russell terrier, we miss her so much she gave us so much happiness I would give my right arm to have her back, but I know its not possible. We have a lot of love to give to another pup of the same sorts they fit in well with our household, the show tonight just made me upset again.. I WILL JOIN BAN ILLEGAL FIRE WORKS...

    Kind Regards

    Yo and Family

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  • 67. At 11:11pm on 06 Nov 2009, highland fling wrote:

    As long as someone wears a poppy, regardless of which side its on !have seen so many women wearing it on same side as Christine .We have so many brave men and women who have lost limbs and lives sometimes protecting there fellow men , ansd to have someone tell the country after joining up, he will not fight ?sorry I feel very angry about him . The people that faught for this country had little option where they went, or if they disagreed with it !

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  • 68. At 11:47pm on 06 Nov 2009, Rinty wrote:

    re #65: oneyedjack,

    Nonsense - You are not comparing like with like.

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  • 69. At 11:53pm on 06 Nov 2009, oneeyedjack wrote:


    Nonsense? - your opinion.

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  • 70. At 00:26am on 07 Nov 2009, Richard wrote:

    Lucy Siegle told us about The Rent a Room scheme, what a story missed opportunity by the BBC, unlike our MP's this lady pays rent in Glasgow, flight to London and rent in London, no expense claims there for a second home, furniture travel, eating out away from home, she bears the cost of that without any tax relief or expense claims - so why can't our MP's? They are truly living in a world apart from us, and it's about time they had a reality check - Perhaps invite an MP on and ask them how they feel that our hard working people have to bear cost this way out of their own pocket

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  • 71. At 00:30am on 07 Nov 2009, sky_viewer wrote:

    Re 52: I couldn't believe it when Adrian said this - did he sneak it in or is he really blissfully unaware of what both subjects in the idiom mean?

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  • 72. At 09:20am on 07 Nov 2009, jadedoldie wrote:

    Post 66 Yolande, I am so sorry for you, I can only imagine what you must be feeling. I wish you well with your search for another pet, and know your new dog will benefit from the hard lessons you have learnt. Good luck in the future.

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  • 73. At 11:56am on 07 Nov 2009, Rinty wrote:

    re# 69 & #65: oneeyedjack,

    Think again about your rather glib comment. You are clearly not comparing like with like. Can you truly not see that? Or are you just attempting to be controversial for some unexplained reason of your own.

    If you disagree with me then please explain why. But do not resort to saying simply that that is my opinion bearing in mind that I already know this.

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  • 74. At 5:31pm on 07 Nov 2009, bordeauxmalc wrote:

    For jadedoldie and johnholyer (do you pronounce it holier?)

    Sorry for taking so long to respond but there is nothing remotely sinister about my pseudonym. Bordeaux is the nearest city to where I live in France>

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  • 75. At 6:29pm on 07 Nov 2009, watchingone wrote:

    I was visiting friends and my mate , her daughter and I all joined in with the very out of tune Dan on Dancing Queen. Loved Chris leading Adrian along the line of Miss World candidates, like he was a little kid overwhelmed by all the choice in the sweetie shop! I didnt catch the seafood store reference myself but having googled it I reckon he knew exactly what he was saying! Great joy tonight, loved it.

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  • 76. At 6:31pm on 07 Nov 2009, jadedoldie wrote:

    Post 75, why are you explaining your pseudonym, I have no interest in it, but thank you for the information anyway. Nice to know our ex-pats show such an interest in Britian.

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  • 77. At 6:32pm on 07 Nov 2009, jadedoldie wrote:

    Post 76, so bemused I cannot even spell Britain!!!

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  • 78. At 8:22pm on 07 Nov 2009, Rinty wrote:

    re #74: bordeaumalc,

    If you want to query the pronunciation of my name then you must first tell me yours.

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  • 79. At 9:03pm on 07 Nov 2009, jadedoldie wrote:

    Post 78, is this whole blog taking a very strange direction, or am I losing the plot. Why are we all suddenly interested in one anothers names?

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  • 80. At 9:14pm on 07 Nov 2009, jadedoldie wrote:

    johnholyer, just read my previous note and realised it sounded a little brusque, it was not meant to be, lol. I write this in case any one who is lookout for a loose insult they can adopt and call their own is on the prowl!

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  • 81. At 9:19pm on 07 Nov 2009, oneeyedjack wrote:

    No. 73 Johnholyer

    In response to your posting:-

    Many of the posts regarding the soldier who refuses to serve in Afghanistan are at best, in my opinion, simply based on macho,knee jerk reactions.

    It has become de rigeur to suggest that any soldier is obliged to follow, react and carry out any order given him/her. The point I was making is that blindly following orders, is certainly not always for the best. Yes, soldiers can think for themselves, should they so choose. This guy believes, whether rightly or wrongly, that the order to fight in Afghanistan is something that he is not prepared to countenance, as, incidentally do a huge percentage of the British populace.

    Given that we have lost many brave soldiers, the Afghans have lost a large number of civilians in what is, (again)in my opinion, a war, more pointless than the American fiasco that was Vietnam.

    Were we defending our shores from an invading army, then I would most certainly not condone his actions, but we are being conned into believing that our presence in Afghanistan is somehow protecting mainland Britain. That is laughable. The 7/7 bombers were born and raised in Leeds and other places nearby and most, if not all, of the plotters since jailed for attempted terrorist atrocities are British born and bred-sadly. Let's get our own house in order before we bomb the crap out of other countries.

    Yes, we need to secure our country, but imperialistic war games in Afghanistan, will I believe, prove fruitless and embarrassing for this country.

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  • 82. At 9:35pm on 07 Nov 2009, jadedoldie wrote:

    Post 81, despite the fact that your post is dedicated to johnholyer I was one of the bloggers who believed the man in question was in the wrong. For your info, this has no bearing on my feelings about the war we are fighting, neither was it a knee jerk macho reaction
    The question was whether the soldier should be permitted to cherry pick what duties he chooses to carry out and what orders he is prepared to accept. Yes, it is as basic as that once you join the forces. You do as you are told. Should this person not be able to follow this simple idea, he is obviously not suited to forces life and should be dispensed with.

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  • 83. At 9:44pm on 07 Nov 2009, Timothy Carvell wrote:

    After watching the show yesterday Friday 6/11/09 i enjoyed the item on MISS WORLD but Christine your are so beautiful and sexy you would make a brilliant miss world your self better than any of the ladies who were on your show

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  • 84. At 11:00pm on 07 Nov 2009, Rinty wrote:

    Many of those "knee jerk reactions" as you call them were made by serving soldiers fighting in Afghanistan. I trust their judgement rather tha yours. They know the horrible truth of it.

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  • 85. At 11:02pm on 07 Nov 2009, Rinty wrote:

    re #80: jadedoldie,
    It's OK. Didn't sound brusque to me.

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  • 86. At 02:40am on 08 Nov 2009, oneeyedjack wrote:

    Re; 84 Johnholyer

    Just accept our views differ. Isn't that what a debate is about?

    I am as entitled to my opinion as you are to yours.

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  • 87. At 1:16pm on 08 Nov 2009, Rinty wrote:

    re #86; oneeyedjack,

    No that is not what debate is all about.

    I did not dispute your entitlement to have and opinion. But you should be prepared to have your opinion challenged if you choose to express it in public.

    Will you please stop going on about the right to opinion. It lends nothing to the discussion. I do not need telling that that is your opinion, that I challenge its premise and that our views differ. This fact is blindingly obvious.

    Your tone is patronising but I expect you do not realise it.

    If you have nothing more to say on the subject then say so and I will go away and bother some else.

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  • 88. At 2:24pm on 08 Nov 2009, oneeyedjack wrote:

    Re; 87

    Having read your strange responses to Bordeauxmalc, I am not surprised by your last post to me. You seem totally unable to let go with anyone who doesn't share your position.

    Your tone, as ever, is imperious, the content barbed, seemingly the rantings of someone intent on venting their spleen wherever they can find an excuse to do so.

    If you disagree with my view, fine, however your reaction is that of a child throwing their toys out of the pram.

    The last sentence of your post tells all.."go away and you I will bother someone else". No doubt you will.

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  • 89. At 4:47pm on 08 Nov 2009, dirk_p wrote:

    Re post 81 - oneeyedjack

    No I'm sorry but your post is wrong in so many ways I have to comment -

    "Many of the posts regarding the soldier who refuses to serve in Afghanistan are at best, in my opinion, simply based on macho,knee jerk reactions."

    Not macho knee jerk reactions but reasoned statements based on experience (in many cases) and on reason and fact.

    "It has become de rigeur to suggest that any soldier is obliged to follow, react and carry out any order given him/her. The point I was making is that blindly following orders, is certainly not always for the best. Yes, soldiers can think for themselves, should they so choose."

    Clearly a statement from someone who has never taken the oath of allegiance (or didn't give a toss about it's meaning). A soldier IS obliged to follow, react and carry out any order given. For the record every member of the armed forces must take the oath and swears to "obey all orders of Her Majesty, Her Heirs and Successors, and of the generals and officers set over me" - that is pretty easy to understand and i'm afraid there isn't a clause in there that says "unless I don't feel like it, then I'll just nip off home then go and whinge on prime time television". The British forces are built on discipline and knowing that when an order is given it is followed.

    "This guy believes, whether rightly or wrongly, that the order to fight in Afghanistan is something that he is not prepared to countenance, as, incidentally do a huge percentage of the British populace."

    A huge percentage of the British populace haven't signed up for the forces and have no concept of what serving in the forces is like so this argument is irrelevant. Whether a member of the forces believes that what they are being asked to do is politically wrong is also irrelevant - when you swear allegiance you are saying you will follow orders. It is not a soldiers job to decide whether or not he should be there.

    "Given that we have lost many brave soldiers, the Afghans have lost a large number of civilians in what is, (again)in my opinion, a war, more pointless than the American fiasco that was Vietnam."

    Again, not up to the soldiers on the ground to decide this.

    "Were we defending our shores from an invading army, then I would most certainly not condone his actions, but we are being conned into believing that our presence in Afghanistan is somehow protecting mainland Britain. That is laughable. The 7/7 bombers were born and raised in Leeds and other places nearby and most, if not all, of the plotters since jailed for attempted terrorist atrocities are British born and bred-sadly. Let's get our own house in order before we bomb the crap out of other countries."

    Somehow I feel sure that you would defend a soldiers right to 'opt out' even if it were in this country. Lets say for instance Scotland was made independent and decided to declare war on England.. a soldier refuses to fight because he disagrees with the concept of Scottish independence - you'd be first in the queue to give him a good slap would you? I think you'd be one of the first to defend his right to decide whether or not he should fight...

    "Yes, we need to secure our country, but imperialistic war games in Afghanistan, will I believe, prove fruitless and embarrassing for this country."

    This may well be true but this is not related in any way whatsoever to how a serving serviceman conducts him/her self.

    My thoughts are with all of those who are out there, some friends, some family, most I will never know, all who are doing their duty and following orders and I hope that each and every one of them comes home.

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  • 90. At 5:02pm on 08 Nov 2009, highland fling wrote:

    Once again the blogs are becoming more interesting than the show !superb!

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  • 91. At 5:12pm on 08 Nov 2009, Rinty wrote:

    re #88: oneeyedjack,

    Clearly, the implied humour in my final sentence passed you by.

    It is apparent that you take yourself very seriously. But why do you get so angry and insulting with anyone who disagrees with you?

    I am interested to see how you will reply to dirk_p at #89.
    Dirk_p has offered you a reasoned argument. What do you make of it? I think you will agree that dirk_p deserves better than to be told by you that that is just his opinion. I hope you will have more to say to him.

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  • 92. At 5:20pm on 08 Nov 2009, Rinty wrote:

    re #90: highlandfling,

    Good evening. I agree. Great fun. All we now are hokeykokeyalex and jadedoldie to join in.

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  • 93. At 5:25pm on 08 Nov 2009, Rinty wrote:

    re #92: Should read " all we need now " sorry.

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  • 94. At 5:28pm on 08 Nov 2009, Rinty wrote:


    You seem to be saying that each individual soldier should reach his/her own independent decision on whether or not to fight. How exactly will that work?

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  • 95. At 5:52pm on 08 Nov 2009, highland fling wrote:

    Post 92 Agree , although I think hokey is away at the moment ?he has a lot to catch up with on his return.? hope we all remember the brave men and women who lost there lives so that others would be free .

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  • 96. At 9:10pm on 08 Nov 2009, jadedoldie wrote:

    Post 92, to impressed by Post 89 to try and comment. Today is a day when I like to give my energy and emotion in thanksgiving for those who gave everything they had for me. It would be a shame to lose the dignity of the day in acrimony and one-upmanship, as so many of the younger generation tend to do.

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  • 97. At 10:22pm on 08 Nov 2009, highland fling wrote:

    Jade, just watched news with Mary Nightingale and she was wearing her poppy on the right ?exactly like Christine did !So Helen they cant all be wrong !

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  • 98. At 11:57pm on 08 Nov 2009, jadedoldie wrote:

    Highlandfling, I checked my feelings about the poppy, and while it's not set in stone, for who would want to be dogmatic about the way anyone shows respect, it is correct to wear one's poppy on the right if you are a woman, but as we both pointed out, does it matter in the greater scheme of things, when all we want to do is remember the sacrifice of others. I did think it was unfair to remark on the fact that Christine wore hers in this manner! It probably matters a great deal to Hyacinth Bucket, but she wasn't blogging, lol.

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  • 99. At 00:05am on 09 Nov 2009, bordeauxmalc wrote:

    Once again the 'hang 'em, draw 'em and quarter 'em' brigade is out in force. You are all of course entitled to your opinion but those who disagree with you are also entitled and have equal validity. Please remember that a point of view is not an established fact!

    I did not see the interview, but let me tell that whether he is right or wrong that young man has courage.

    I was a National Serviceman during our spell of unpleasantness in Cyprus and orders were given and followed with which I disagreed, but I didn't have the courage and believe me it would have taken tremendous courage to say this is wrong and then suffer the consequences. I believe that it has since been well documented that the British Army had much to answer for in Cyprus.

    I have no doubt that this young man is going to suffer the consequences of his action and I for one wish him the fortitude to withstand it.

    There is no point in re-iterating much that has been said but ' I was only following orders' is pertinent and if a soldier cannot in conscience follow an order then the only choice left to him is to disobey and and accept what happens to him.

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  • 100. At 00:56am on 09 Nov 2009, sky_viewer wrote:

    Re 59: I am also appalled at some of the comments made on this blog... as I am appalled by the day-to-day ramblings of those pontificating whether or not the troops should be pulled out of Afghanistan etc. It's very easy to be an 'expert', it seems, especially if you know very little - if anything at all - about the details of the war.

    Consequently these days I am more happy to listen to those in the know, e.g. the Major General interviewed in th film or a commanding officer on TV earlier who was commenting on general comments being made. He said he felt they were making progress and were there to do a job. I have nothing but admiration for these courageous people for signing up, no matter what they decide to do after that.

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  • 101. At 01:18am on 09 Nov 2009, Rinty wrote:

    re #99: bordeauxmalc,

    Please take your first paragraph to heart. Your opening sentence there is gratuitous. Your final sentence is patronising. The middle bit is vacuous.

    The rest of your comments are similar to those that we often hear from people who prefer to regard their own side as the enemy. EOKA was the enemy. EOKA did some terrible things, including to their own people. This is not my opinion but rather historical fact.

    I too served in Cyprus.

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  • 102. At 09:07am on 09 Nov 2009, astroplums wrote:

    Missed blog over w/end. Very active indeed.

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  • 103. At 12:40pm on 09 Nov 2009, Rinty wrote:

    re #102: astroplums,

    I agree, very active. I keep telling myself that I will no longer get involved in these exchanges. Then someone says something and ........

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  • 104. At 3:18pm on 09 Nov 2009, davidjack wrote:

    I went to the army as a very unwilling conscript national serviceman and stayed the course waiting for the day I would a civilian again. Nevertheless I found a degree of comradeship in the army I have never found as a civilian. One of today's problems is hardly anyone knows what discipline is. Soldier sailor or airman must respond without question to orders and direction. To fail, is to die taking their comrades with them. Britain won at Waterloo and Trafalgar through iron disipline. The musketry won at Waterloo through constant fire power liken to a machine gun and at Trafalgar because they could load and fire their cannons every 90 seconds. Todays youngsters lack discipline and leadership and are trouble and problems on our streets, but in Iraq and Afganistan make find soldiers. A squaddie will always drink two or three pints of beer more than he should chase any woman he fancies all as Kipling recorded all those years ago and it is still true today, but when the fighting starts the cry goes for God and him to defend you. If you can't stand behind our soldiers, try standing in front of them.

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  • 105. At 6:36pm on 09 Nov 2009, Rinty wrote:

    re #104: davidjack,

    Well said - especially your point about your comrades who rely on you. Being in HM Forces teaches you that you are not the most important person around. Your last sentence strikes hard.

    I am just waiting for some clown to reply to you with the words, "that is your opinion".

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  • 106. At 6:49pm on 09 Nov 2009, bordeauxmalc wrote:

    Re 101 johnholyer

    You throw complEments around as if they were confetti with the only intent to insult.

    I really do know that one should not expect reason and understanding from fanatics.

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  • 107. At 7:27pm on 09 Nov 2009, ajackson1 wrote:

    What was the cameraman doing on the mercenary soldier item tonight ? It was making me feel nauseous. Swinging the camera around, side to side, up and down and zooming in out on peoples' faces with a jumping action whilst they were speaking. Most annoying - looked like a child had hold of the camera. I just wanted to shout 'keep still!'

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  • 108. At 00:29am on 10 Nov 2009, Rinty wrote:

    re #106: bordeaxmalc,

    What an earth are you trying to say. Your piece simply does not make sense. Who do you think I was complimenting in my comments at #101? All I can infer is that you are still angry about something or other.

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