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What did you think of The One Show? Carol Vorderman, guest

Host_Ryan - One Show team | 12:14 UK time, Wednesday, 4 March 2009

Carol Vorderman


Joining Adrian and Christine on the sofa was queen of calculus Carol Vorderman.

 

Angellica Bell discussed why maths is important to all of us. Does maths matter?

 

Lord Roy Hattersley looked back 25 years ago to the miner's strike.

Gyles Brandreth explored Sheffield General Cemetery.

Bug man George McGavin showed us the delights of having a compost heap in your garden, and Christine Walkden joined us in the studio with some practical composting tips.

 

Christine Walkden will be our 'Agony Plant' over the next few weeks. If you have a gardening question for Christine head over to our gallery pages and let us know.

 

What did you think of the show? Add your comment.

Comments

  • 1. At 6:31pm on 04 Mar 2009, sellablog wrote:

    i love the one show!!

    i'm the first person to write on this little bit of a blog

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  • 2. At 6:47pm on 04 Mar 2009, Ryan - One Show team wrote:

    Hello sellablog! Thanks for visiting The One Show website.

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    Also: A warm welcome to other viewers who'd like to comment on tonight's programme.

    For ease of use, and to ensure this blog remains friendly, please bear in mind our house rules when leaving a comment.

    This blog post is for discussing tonight's show (and only tonight's show). The producers of The One Show do read this blog and value your feedback - both negative and positive.

    Our house rules include:

    Comments may be removed that: "are considered likely to disrupt, provoke, attack or offend others".

    Also:

    "We reserve the right to fail messages which are considered to be off-topic for the particular message board."

    In other words - please be civil and stick to the topic, if you can.

    Many thanks for visiting The One Show website.

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  • 3. At 7:07pm on 04 Mar 2009, nott-hamish wrote:

    Usual englandshire stuff about maths - what's the position in the Other Bits that you ignore? - wales, scotland and n ireland - better / worse / the same???

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  • 4. At 7:08pm on 04 Mar 2009, juanshow wrote:

    I think Christine might get out-laughed by Carol Vorderman tonight.

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  • 5. At 7:10pm on 04 Mar 2009, lab-rat wrote:

    How typical that The One Show cover their bias portrayal of the miners strike with Carol Vorderman's work for the Tory party. No mention of the Nottinghamshire miners who saw sense and disassociated themselves from the traitorous, anarchist, undemocratic NUM actions.

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  • 6. At 7:21pm on 04 Mar 2009, hokeykokeyalex wrote:

    blog3,nott-hamish ...agree 100% but would go further ,typical londoncentric television.
    thanks for the miners story-mrs thatcher i hope you are proud.
    lab-rat ...miners know who the traitors are,the real miners that is that fought for the communities they lived in.
    mistakes were made by the striking miners but they did it to try to save jobs,houses and lifestyles.
    for any political leader to decide to crush an industry and at the same time start the nation on a capatalist path that leads us now to be a 2nd rate service nation ruled by banks that see no sense beggars belief.
    mrs thatchers place in history is safe,she will be seen as the woman who ruined britain.

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  • 7. At 7:22pm on 04 Mar 2009, serjanus wrote:

    This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the House Rules.

  • 8. At 7:36pm on 04 Mar 2009, twinkleRupertthebear wrote:

    Had to turn the show off tonight - Carol Vordeman's laugh is just too painful to listen to.

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  • 9. At 7:43pm on 04 Mar 2009, sky_viewer wrote:

    Re maths - see relevant blog. But yes, finger on the volume control tonight with both Christine and the Vord howling throughout!!!

    Re 'delights' of a compost heap. What is wrong with these people who wax lyrical about such abominable creatures? And is there a cure? It's nearly as bad as dird-watching - anyone who even calls the noise they make 'song' is probably, sadly, beyond hope.

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  • 10. At 7:46pm on 04 Mar 2009, hokeykokeyalex wrote:

    blog 6 by myself was in no way offensive,it was about the show and commented on blog 5 and made a political comment about the situation.
    if it is removed and not put back on then this blog is brought into distripute.
    blog 5 made the point that miners were traitorous,anarchist and undemocratic-i countered by saying real miners who fought for the lifes of their community knew who the real traitors are.
    i went on to say mrs thatcher should be proud.
    this blog is getting worse ,you cannot make any comment withoput it being removed.

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  • 11. At 7:47pm on 04 Mar 2009, Marliz87 wrote:

    I have a question for Christine - liked the dress you were wearing tonight, where did your stylist get it from?

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  • 12. At 7:47pm on 04 Mar 2009, griffoid wrote:

    Adrian made a valid pount about maths in that he is Ok with day to day stuff. We alienate many youngsters in maths by teachers the complex bits as well (for GCSE purposes) but many are so put off they end up with no skill and just switch off. We should have a basic maths qualification that all can aspire to using day to day maths and task schools with a 100% target. The GCSE in maths should be a chosen subject only. Purists will object but it is they who are driving many to failure. (The same can be said for English).

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  • 13. At 7:49pm on 04 Mar 2009, hokeykokeyalex wrote:

    This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the House Rules.

  • 14. At 7:53pm on 04 Mar 2009, serjanus wrote:

    People do have short memories. Mrs Thatcher took this country by the scruff of the neck and made it stand proud again. Don't people remember the three day week, powercuts, constant striking by lunatic left wing unions who by their own idiocy ruined many British industries. There is no way today that the country can be held to ransom by a loony like Scargill. Mrs T was a great lady and a great Prime Minister.

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  • 15. At 7:54pm on 04 Mar 2009, hokeykokeyalex wrote:

    re my blog saying mrs thatcher should be proud,i mean it in so much as she ruined communities and set us on a path of ruin in this country,making us a 2nd class service nation.
    she ruined communities and crushed an industry that could be producing so much for us today.

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  • 16. At 7:56pm on 04 Mar 2009, ladymindtwister wrote:

    The northeast miners fought for what they thought was right, and they and their families had to suffer as a consequence, when I left school I counted my self lucky to be a girl, it meant I didnt have to go underground, I went to work in a factory, it was hard work, but it was clean, light and spacious, who in their right mind wants to go down a dirty old pit shaft, as for the Nottingham miners, it was up to them to do what they thought was right, I believe Scargill led the miners up the garden path, and him sitting in his fancy mansion, I'm glad the pits are closed, so I don't have to see my boy go down the mine, Vi, Northumberland.

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  • 17. At 7:57pm on 04 Mar 2009, hokeykokeyalex wrote:

    This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the House Rules.

  • 18. At 8:01pm on 04 Mar 2009, hokeykokeyalex wrote:

    ladymindtwister writes a lot of sense...but.
    although mistakes were made mr scargill predicted exactly what would happen and he was right.
    cleaner techniques for coal production were being invented all the time and now as a service nation we could be producing large volumes of our own fuel.for every mansion mr scargill had the top tory leaders had 2-paid for by the blood,sweat and tears of people who lost their lives producing fuel for this country

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  • 19. At 8:08pm on 04 Mar 2009, hokeykokeyalex wrote:

    mrs thatcher made the decision to crush the miners and take this country away from being a manufacturing/producing industry country and changed us into a country that believed wealth could be generated through investing in shares and the like.
    the south east/london led the way and the financial capital london became massive,,,and promptly paid staff huge bonuses.
    look where that idea got us

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  • 20. At 8:11pm on 04 Mar 2009, Rinty wrote:

    I loved the show tonight. We were treated to Adrian's trenchant and witty remarks on all things. Then there was Christine's sweet girlish laughter twinkling across the studio floor. What an achievment tonight's show was. We should all be grateful for it.

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  • 21. At 8:12pm on 04 Mar 2009, hokeykokeyalex wrote:

    ryan re: blog 13,,,you are allowing people to complain and are taking proper blogs off for no reason.
    again show the guts to return it and put your on comment on about people complaining for no reason

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  • 22. At 8:16pm on 04 Mar 2009, winchamyatesy wrote:

    I was watching the show tonight and couldn't help getting a little hot under the collar seeing Christine Walkden rummidging around in all that compost. I reckon she's a cracking girl and a real diamond in the rough.
    I know she's a no nonsense earth maiden but i'd love to see her out of that woolly jumper and polo neck and into something a bit more feminine.
    I'm proposing that Christine gets into the Red Nose spirit and lets Trinny and Susanna get their hands on her for a makeover. I for one would be glad to sponsor her for such a task - it would make a good One Show feature as well. I don't mind if she wants to keep a few grey hairs either!!
    If you can't manage to bag Trinny then I'm sure Christine Blakeley would step in to the breach, she's a stylish chick to be sure.

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  • 23. At 8:17pm on 04 Mar 2009, hokeykokeyalex wrote:

    ryan...blog 13 ,,what on earth can be wrong with that one..on topic and ref to other blogs on topic. ?????
    you say it is off topic in the email...
    eh,,,no...

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  • 24. At 8:17pm on 04 Mar 2009, briansin wrote:

    It was most interesting to note that niether of the presenters got a question right. being a little older than those, i non-the-less relate to their delemar. This is where i feel the government have it wrong. the most important way to teach any subject is to show its relevance to people in their everyday life first and foremost. what motivation will a person have when they know that what they are learning will probably be of non use to them. Now dont get me wrong i believe that maths is a subject we all need, but it is what we desire to do with our lives that will determin to what extent we need to learn a subject, and there are always opportunities later in life if needed.

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  • 25. At 8:19pm on 04 Mar 2009, ladymindtwister wrote:

    I bet even the most modernised pits, have more than their fair share of accidents, and the miners still come to the surface jet black, I couldn't fancy it.

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  • 26. At 8:21pm on 04 Mar 2009, hokeykokeyalex wrote:

    , ladymindtwister,,,would you stop all dirty and dangerous jobs being done because you wouldnt fancy it....if that were the case this country wouldnt exist

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  • 27. At 8:27pm on 04 Mar 2009, hokeykokeyalex wrote:

    ryan,,,,when someone makes a comment about something(for example serjanus)..is it so wrong to ask his age because that would give me more of an idea of the person and from where he/she is coming from?

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  • 28. At 8:29pm on 04 Mar 2009, hokeykokeyalex wrote:

    ryan...an idea for the show.following itv's decision to close yorkshire television what about a topic of the londoncentric media domination of television?

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  • 29. At 8:49pm on 04 Mar 2009, hokeykokeyalex wrote:

    ryan...blog 13...was removed,put back on now it is gone again,,,what the blinking heck is happening?????

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  • 30. At 8:52pm on 04 Mar 2009, hokeykokeyalex wrote:

    ryan -you ruled that blog 13 was ok once,put it back on,,,,why has it been removed a second time.
    this blog is becoming a waste of time.

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  • 31. At 9:12pm on 04 Mar 2009, hokeykokeyalex wrote:

    sorry ryan,,i meant blog 6 which went away(someone complained?) then appeared again.
    my comments tonight have been on topic ryan.
    people are probably leaving the blog because so many comments are being removed and are fed up of reading blogs with no threads because previous comments are removed.
    or are fed up with being removed so they dont bother blogging...
    why are the referrals taking so long ??????

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  • 32. At 9:29pm on 04 Mar 2009, Ryan - One Show team wrote:

    Hello hokeykokeyalex - I'm not a moderator - I have not removed your comments (I don't have the power to). The moderators are a separate team... when the complaint button is pressed (by other One Show website users) then the comments are referred to moderators who check the comment against the house rules. Best wishes,

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  • 33. At 9:37pm on 04 Mar 2009, hokeykokeyalex wrote:

    thankyou ryan,,point taken.
    but comments are on/off/on/off....
    the system cannot be right.
    and what takes so long....surely this "seperate team" read it and make a quick decision.
    how can it be that a comment can be removed twice.
    does that mean that the comment has changed in some way.
    by all means check them ,but lets have them checked quickly.
    and if referred once and passed they should not be removed again

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  • 34. At 9:39pm on 04 Mar 2009, hokeykokeyalex wrote:

    ref comments removed,,,comment 6 from 7:21pm is still being reviewed,,,,,2 hours 21 minutes later.
    will it return when the blog is dead???

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  • 35. At 9:43pm on 04 Mar 2009, Ryan - One Show team wrote:

    Hello hokeykokeyalex, I'm sorry - but I don't have an answer for you. I finished work at 6pm - and am checking in from home.

    The moderators cover the whole of the BBC website - which probably explains the delay.

    Good night all.

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  • 36. At 9:52pm on 04 Mar 2009, cleverMrPlodd wrote:

    Hi all,
    Christine was wrong in tonight's prog when she said to put human hair into the compost bin/heap. Human hair can take over a hundred years to break down. Think of the bodies that have been dug out of the ground, where the hair is still intach, close to the skull.
    Please advise your viewers that Christine made an error.
    After all, we all make mistakes, as the hedgehog said as he climbed off the HAIRBRUSH.

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  • 37. At 9:55pm on 04 Mar 2009, hokeykokeyalex wrote:

    ryan,,thanks for the reply.
    you are taking stick from people but if people take time to watch the prog,a blog is set up then you expect it to work properly.
    the blog is active from 7pm approx and the fact you are at home is nice for you.are you being paid to follow it ?
    i am not,i am giving up my time to comment.
    the blog isnt running properly

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  • 38. At 10:07pm on 04 Mar 2009, Ryan - One Show team wrote:

    Hello hokeykokeyalex,
    I'm not paid to follow the blog - I get paid (during office hours) to produce the website. Part of this job is hosting the blogs. As a host I attempt to encourage debate around the issues raised by the tv programme but do not monitor each comment - that's the moderators job - they "follow" the blogs 24 hours a day.

    The blogs exist for the viewers to connect with each other - as well as to leave feedback for the producers of the show.

    The producers of the TV show read the comments that come in during the show, and they're sent the links to the blogs in the morning after the show - they're keen to know what the audience thought of the show. Viewers comments are often discussed in the morning meeting.

    As I've mentioned before - the integration of the blogs is a work in progress!

    I'm getting off topic, here... but does this answer your question?

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  • 39. At 10:26pm on 04 Mar 2009, Miaoucat wrote:

    Is it only me or did any one else feel like a bit of a voyeur watching the show tonight? Christine 'playfully' batting Adrian; Carol and Giles canoodling on the sofa and all the general flirty jokes made me feel like an intruder on a private party. Perhaps a reminder to the presenters that they are there to 'present'. Can't they wait until they get to the Green Room to indulge in horseplay and giggly in jokes?

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  • 40. At 10:27pm on 04 Mar 2009, hokeykokeyalex wrote:

    however you dress it up you get paid as host to this blog.
    how can you be a host and not follow it?
    the blog is active after the show(largely) so i view it that you get paid to host/follow the blog whether at home or not.
    however let that one die.
    blog,,,work in progress?
    if the moderators cannot review blogs quick enough to allow proper free speech then dont have blogs.
    the blog has become a comment on adrians wages,christines dress code and when something of worth is said all it takes is someone to take offence at calling mrs m. thatcher a nasty woman and away the comment goes into the dark,long void that is the moderator.
    if i say something i believe in about arthur scargill someone out in blog land will be annoyed and complain.
    goodnight ryan

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  • 41. At 10:29pm on 04 Mar 2009, Alba wrote:

    OK Ryan, so what is the point of having you here? there is plenty of debate, you have no authority to get rid of a comment....so what do you do?

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  • 42. At 10:35pm on 04 Mar 2009, Alba wrote:

    BTW I don't blame you for Chiles and the Hyena

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  • 43. At 10:36pm on 04 Mar 2009, Ryan - One Show team wrote:

    hokeykokeyalex - thanks for your patience with me - of course I follow the blog. I was just trying to tell you that moderation of comments is out of my hands.

    It can be frustrating when your comments are referred to a moderator (it happened to me yesterday)... and all I could do is wait.

    I will pass on your comment about the moderators.

    Good night.

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  • 44. At 10:46pm on 04 Mar 2009, happyBILLHA wrote:

    I am afraid that your piece on the miners strike was biased. The miners went on strike without having a ballot. They tried to use force to stop miners who wanted to work. Certain miners leaders had political aims, not connected to their members needs, i.e, to defeat an elected government. They tried to obtain funds from foriegn goverments, i.e. Libya. The show had an ex Labour minister, no Tory person to give an alternate view. Can I say another attempt to unfairly hit at Mrs Thatcher, a truly great prime minister

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  • 45. At 11:33pm on 04 Mar 2009, ladymindtwister wrote:

    post 44, Tony Blair has taken a lot of stick for taking us to war, and I'm not saying whether he was right or wrong, but don't forget, so did thatcher, for a bit of land we could do without, no one seems to condemn her, a truly great prime minister as you say? ?

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  • 46. At 00:53am on 05 Mar 2009, Rinty wrote:

    Re 7: This was a terrible thing to say. I like potatoes. Vegeatables have rights too you know.

    I think the set on tonight's show was very pretty.

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  • 47. At 01:03am on 05 Mar 2009, Rinty wrote:

    re 38: Thank you Ryan for your helpful clarification on procedures.

    [I'm not being ironic]

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  • 48. At 08:27am on 05 Mar 2009, robertbridget wrote:

    40
    The One Show blog with reference to the show last night is being hijacked by hokeyhokeyalex.
    In blog 40 he refers to "mrs m thatcher a nasty women" which has not been removed by the moderator.
    If Adrian Chiles was referred to as a nasty man would this be removed from the blog?

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  • 49. At 08:46am on 05 Mar 2009, doctorAlbion wrote:

    I remember well Arthur Scargil being chauffured from strike to strike in his own personal Daimler Jaguar paid by NUM funds.

    Very real questions remain unanswered as to what happened to large amounts of money that was donated to support striking miners families.

    In particular, the NUM has never provided an explanantion as to what happened to the funds donated to striking miners families from the state controlled Soviet miners union.


    Also why did the NUM refuse to have a national ballot among its members as to whether there members should strike or not.

    The miners strike demonstrated how a small but ideologically motivated socialist minority take over positions of power in a public body and pay themselves huge salaries whilst ignoring the views of the majority.

    Sound familiar!

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  • 50. At 08:49am on 05 Mar 2009, doctorAlbion wrote:

    The house rules are applied very inconsistently on this blog.

    Its very revealing as to the hidden political agenda of many of those who work at the BBC.

    1984 George Orwell

    You've read the book
    Now live the dream at the BBC

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  • 51. At 09:33am on 05 Mar 2009, doctorAlbion wrote:

    This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the House Rules.

  • 52. At 09:38am on 05 Mar 2009, Rinty wrote:

    re 48: This is a cogent point that is germane to the moderation of this blog.

    I thought that tonight's show was very nice.

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  • 53. At 10:14am on 05 Mar 2009, Rinty wrote:

    About tonight's show: I am sorry to keep banging on about this: but, in my opinion, Adrian Chiles does not earn his money. Money that comes from my licence fee.Tonight he again he demonstrated his proclivity to mock that which he does not understand: as with mathematics. With Christine Walkden he was variously patronising and sneering. To be fair to Chiles, none of this may be his intent. He may, for example, see himself as acting the devil's advocate in order to extract information. It may be that he is trying to be witty. But it does not come across like that. Importantly, he should as a performer realise this. His technique is not working. He is heavily criticised on this blog. And it is no help to him or his audience to hide behind the calumny that all his critics are friends of the Thatcher family.

    I understand the demographic to which this programme is targeted. But in the main I believe that the producer is at best underestimating the intelligence of the audience; and at worst patronising them.
    Last night Giles Brandreth wore an Oxford tee shirt. I cannot overlook the possibility that by this gesture he was saying that although he has been asked to dumb down his reports, in truth he is quite bright.

    I admire and respect the BBC, always have done. I have at times been close to it. It is probably the best broadcaster in the world. But The One Show is below the standard that we can reasonably expect from The BBC. Will no one save it?

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  • 54. At 10:46am on 05 Mar 2009, serjanus wrote:

    They've removed my comment referring to Chiles as a potato in a shirt now! I don't just mean that he resembles one but he just sits there like a sack of the aforementioned, contributing little.

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  • 55. At 11:02am on 05 Mar 2009, Rinty wrote:

    This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the House Rules.

  • 56. At 11:18am on 05 Mar 2009, Rinty wrote:

    All my posts are subject to pre-moderation. Will you Please explain why that it is. Why is my post at #53 still being moderated? Please give me a reply. I do not want to go down the route of an official complaint once again.

    I thought that last night's show was up to standard.

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  • 57. At 11:47am on 05 Mar 2009, Rinty wrote:

    My comment at #53 is still awaiting pre-moderation. Consequently, here is an edited version of the blog in which I have removed text that might be upsetting the moderator. I must emphasise that I am criticising Adrian Chiles the paid performer and not Chiles the man.
    About tonight's show: I am sorry to keep banging on about this: but, in my opinion, Adrian Chiles does not earn his money. Money that comes from my licence fee. Tonight he again he demonstrated his proclivity to mock that which he does not understand: as with mathematics. With Christine Walkden he was variously patronising and sneering. To be fair to Chiles, none of this may be his intent. He may, for example, see himself as acting the devil's advocate in order to extract information. It may be that he is trying to be witty. But it does not come across like that. Importantly, he should as a performer realise this. His technique is not working.

    I understand the demographic to which this programme is targeted. But in the main I believe that the producer is at best underestimating the intelligence of the audience; and at worst patronising them.
    Last night Giles Brandreth wore an Oxford tee shirt. I cannot overlook the possibility that by this gesture he was saying that although he has been asked to dumb down his reports, in truth he is quite bright.

    I admire and respect the BBC, always have done. It is probably the best broadcaster in the world. But The One Show is below the standard that we can reasonably expect from The BBC. Will no one save it?

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  • 58. At 1:29pm on 05 Mar 2009, hokeykokeyalex wrote:

    robertbridget,blog 48 ...if you mean that by watching the show,passing comment,responding to comments and putting my points regarding the removal of my comments(and others) is highjacking then guilty as charged.
    i wonder if it was a view you agreed with would you would be so critical.??..opinions dear boy.
    why dont you highjack it just the same,watch the show and same something interesting

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  • 59. At 1:40pm on 05 Mar 2009, JHPWOLVES wrote:

    This is just a thought but Is there any chance that the person who does the gardening feature can be replaced by someone who talks at a slower pace, get's less excited when she is on screen and looks like she has actually smartened herself up for the programme !!
    rather than just come in from digging up the carpark.
    Why not ask the Lady who presents the garden feature on Gardeners World I think her name is Carol Klein ? she definetly
    bring a little more balanced approach and a better image on screen.

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  • 60. At 3:11pm on 05 Mar 2009, robertbridget wrote:

    58 hokeykokeyalex
    You have made 21 postings.
    You have made defamatory postings about an old lady Margaret Thatcher.

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  • 61. At 3:41pm on 05 Mar 2009, jadedoldie wrote:

    The whole blog is a mystery to me!! How any of you managed to watch through the stereo cackling of Vorderman and Bleakley is beyond me. It was left on in my home because I have an elderly relative who insists on watching. I think she's using it as a rehearsal for purgatory.

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  • 62. At 3:55pm on 05 Mar 2009, robertbridget wrote:

    The show last night included a look back at the miners strike which was unbalanced to say the least.
    I believe that the blogs immediately referred to the moderator are bloggers on a black list made up by The One Show production team.
    i.e. my blog 60 was referred although this did not break the house rules.
    Is there such a black list of people who will not be allowed to post in the normal way?

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  • 63. At 3:57pm on 05 Mar 2009, robertbridget wrote:

    To all the bloggers of The One Show please be advised there is a black list of people who will not be allowed to post normally but will be immediately referred to the moderator.

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  • 64. At 5:50pm on 05 Mar 2009, Rinty wrote:

    re 62: The evidence suggests to me that such a list exists, and that I am on it. I have lodged a formal complaint with the BBC.

    I think tha Carol Vorderman was very clever on the show.

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  • 65. At 6:09pm on 05 Mar 2009, doctorAlbion wrote:

    Dear Host Ryan,

    Pursuant to the Freedom of Information Act

    As my blogs are being refered for approval by the moderator as sooon as I post them am I on a BBC black list of undesirable bloggers?

    Have the BBC One Show production team made a formal or informal complaint about the content of my blogs during the last week?

    Thanking you in anticipation

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  • 66. At 6:30pm on 05 Mar 2009, hokeykokeyalex wrote:

    robertbridget,blog 60-defamatory comments about mrs thatcher ???,,,it is all opinion.she is old,true...but that does not mean i forgive her for what she did.
    perhaps if she had been old when she ruined this country that would be an excuse.
    i wonder if you will be counting how many times i blog tonight?
    a lot of those blogs are due to my complaints about freedom of speech and the amount of removed blogs.
    i thought you believed in freedom of speech,but obviously only if in your opinion it is not a highjacking of a blog.
    i do not think the house rules limit the amount of times you comment.
    would you change that....
    re a blacklist...i hope you are wrong,however i fear you are right.

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  • 67. At 6:43pm on 05 Mar 2009, hokeykokeyalex wrote:

    comments have been made that the miners topic was not balanced,,,of course it wasnt -it was a topic by an ex mp who gave his opinion,,,just like mr brandreth gives his opinion on things.
    whenever a topic is covered it has a slant in the direction of the reporter,they do not give the right of reply and i am sure nobody notices if it runs in line with their own opinion.
    but when it doesnt the old bias line is trotted out.
    i am an ex miner...my dad was at cortonwood.
    he agreed with the strike,at the time i didnt.
    with hindsight i have seen the things mrs thatcher,the old lady,did-if it is defamatory to list an opinion that many share about an old lady who savaged communities and ruined peoples lives then so be it !!!!
    mrs thatcher was a strong lady who came through the ranks of the tory party to become leader and prime minister-for that i have respect.
    to turn this proud nation from a country that produced into a country full of call centres and rich bankers disgusts me.
    we all have biased opinions,it depends on which side of the bias you are.

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  • 68. At 6:57pm on 05 Mar 2009, cookygtv wrote:

    post 67 so we were a proud nation through the 1970's were we?I don't think so 3 day week, power cuts ,strikes everywhere,rubbish uncollected,the dead not buried.
    Margaret Thatcher took this Country & dragged it into the 21st century,unfortunately the last 10 years have taken us back 30 years

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  • 69. At 7:01pm on 05 Mar 2009, robertbridget wrote:

    67
    The One Show showed the miners strike of 25 years ago.
    They did not mention any of your theories regarding the current recession.
    We have had a New Labour government for 11 years.
    Tony Blair has made his millions and no doubt many of the New Labour ministers will do the same regardless of people becoming unemployed and/or losing their homes.

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  • 70. At 7:35pm on 05 Mar 2009, hokeykokeyalex wrote:

    yes we were proud in the 70s,,,but yes it wasnt great.
    i agree with so much of what you say,the 60s and 70s had troubled times.
    britains government was tory from 1957 to 1964 and from 1970 to 1974,,,tories in power for 11 years of a 17 year period.
    troubled times indeed for any government,memories of the war,the country and world at a time of change.it wasnt easy.
    nothing great about 3 day weeks,strikes and the dead not buried.
    but that does not make what mrs thatcher did right!!!!
    was great britain of the 1960s and 70s a producer of goods or a service nation ?
    if we produced goods that were un economic was the answer to change the industry to become economic and profitable or do we just shut them down and allow the rest of the world to supply us with goods,,,and effectively have us in the palm of their hands.
    throw into that the privatisation of all the nations treasures and we find we are reliant on gas and electricity from countries other than our own.
    she could not sit and negotiate,she could only crush.

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  • 71. At 7:47pm on 05 Mar 2009, cookygtv wrote:

    we were not able to be economic because the unions wouldn't adopt modern working practices,their answer to everything was strike legally or illegally.If you can't produce high quality goods at a price the rest of the world are prepared to pay what can you do?

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  • 72. At 7:50pm on 05 Mar 2009, hokeykokeyalex wrote:

    so i ask again,,,do you take time to sit down ,negotiate and bring about change or do you crush and shut down as mrs thatcher did with all the manufacturing industries?
    i agree about the unions,,but what see saw as the answer leaves us in a position where we manufacture nothing,produce nothing and buy all from abroad.
    where do we get our gas,electric,oil,water etc from ?

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  • 73. At 8:05pm on 05 Mar 2009, cookygtv wrote:

    how do you negotiate when the other side wont negotiate asfar as I know both sides have to talk.Mrs Thatcher might have sold off the energy companies but not to foreign firms that has happened in the last 10 years,the energy companies are not manufacturers they do not produce goods!(my water comes from Wales.)

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  • 74. At 8:14pm on 05 Mar 2009, hokeykokeyalex wrote:

    when companies that supply gas,electricity and water are passed into shareholders hands then the people who own them are then free to sell to whoever they want...and that is exactly what happened.
    i ask again do you do everything you can to sit down,talk and negotiate using all your powers and abilities to reach out and make things work.
    or do you shut them downi never said energy companies manufacture,but it would be great if powerstations were burning our coal in clean,efficient ways.
    mrs thatcher did not try to negotiate with the unions she had a desire to close then all down and smash them.
    why do other countries produce and we do not ?
    the unions were idiots,i admit that but they did it to protect their way of lives, to protect hard won rights.
    after years of being treated badly by employers they were not going to quietly give up without a fight.
    but they didnt get the chance ,they were smashed

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  • 75. At 8:20pm on 05 Mar 2009, hokeykokeyalex wrote:

    the water that comes from wales,,,is it british owned?
    it would be if it was nationalised

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  • 76. At 9:28pm on 05 Mar 2009, cookygtv wrote:

    Testing

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  • 77. At 9:46pm on 05 Mar 2009, cookygtv wrote:

    testing

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  • 78. At 6:50pm on 08 Mar 2009, Albert Simpson wrote:

    Glad to see Carol Vorderman having a
    laugh after all she has been through.
    Yours Albert, Preston,Lancs.

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  • 79. At 8:01pm on 09 Mar 2009, hokeykokeyalex wrote:

    must be hell for her,,,millionaire living in london with her well paid journo partner.
    gosh how she must be suffering !!!!

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  • 80. At 10:49pm on 09 Mar 2009, highland fling wrote:

    Once again loved the show tonight ! Both Christine and Carol were lovely and so happy ! Adrian is worth his weight in gold !This show goes from strength to strength ,great subjects, good presenters and topics !!dont know how we managed before this gem of a show came along!!!

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