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The One Show Team | 11:38 UK time, Thursday, 10 December 2009

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Adrian and Christine were joined on The One Show sofa by Yusuf Islam (the artist formerly known as Cat Stevens). Watch the video above of him performing Roadsinger from his latest album.

Fox huntersHunting with hounds became illegal throughout Britain on 18 February 2005. However, as Paddy O'Connell told us, the Conservatives have promised to provide government time for a free vote on repealing the Hunting Act if they win the election.

Angellica Bell peered into the Great Smog of December 1952.

Dom Littlewood travelled to Norwich where the council have implemented a 'Scores on the Doors' system to rate hygiene and management standards at food outlets across the city. External website: 'Scores on the Doors'. 

Mike Dilger studied robins. More about robins at the British Trust for Ornithology.

And window number ten on The One Show Christmas Advent calendar is open!

What did you think of The One Show? Add a comment.

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  • 1. At 5:31pm on 10 Dec 2009, dutchblog wrote:

    Hello hokeykokeyalex – how many tonight on the blog page do you suggest?

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  • 2. At 5:52pm on 10 Dec 2009, Jacko wrote:

    Liked Cat Stevens in his day. Be interesting to see what he's like now.

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  • 3. At 6:07pm on 10 Dec 2009, bordeauxmalc wrote:

    Maybe join you guys later as I'm orf out!

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  • 4. At 6:25pm on 10 Dec 2009, astroplums wrote:

    HKA

    We got involved in racial issues the other night and suggest that if we get into a religous one tonight ( As a result of the Guest Cat Stevens / Yusuf Islam) we may get a large response. On the other hand he may just be there to plug a new record, which will be routinely boring.

    Incidentally, does any guest who has nothing to plug, ever appear on this show?

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  • 5. At 6:38pm on 10 Dec 2009, hokeykokeyalex wrote:

    dutchblog.....113
    bordeauxmalc....have a good evening
    astroplums....i never get into religous topics because i really believe i do not understand them.
    i have no religous beliefs and i see it rather like supporting father christmas after you have grown up.
    the only difference is people do not kill or blow each other up over good old santa,,,so i suggest that we forget most religions and support good old santa.
    but i stress if you do believe i respect your positions.
    lets see what he is flogging tonight...
    are we going to spend most of the evening in the south east?

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  • 6. At 6:40pm on 10 Dec 2009, hokeykokeyalex wrote:

    Jacko...he has changed,,,shaved his whiskers off.
    did you like that one jadedoldie?

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  • 7. At 6:54pm on 10 Dec 2009, Jacko wrote:

    Hokey

    Yes, I know he's changed.......dramatically! Also, taken up a different religion.

    Just been reading about him on Wikipedia and saw where he first got the inspiration to change religion whilst in Morocco.

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  • 8. At 6:57pm on 10 Dec 2009, dutchblog wrote:

    Yusuf Islam formerly Cat Stevens
    Cat Stevens formerly Stephen Demetre Georgiou and British –
    a 60 something, what splendid songs he composed & performed for us .

    Morning Has Broken performed yet not written by CS, is a hymn I believe.

    Could be interesting viewing – we’ll see

    [hokeykokeyalex – you seem rather popular on the ol’ blog front!]

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  • 9. At 6:58pm on 10 Dec 2009, Jacko wrote:

    Dutchblog

    Yes, Morning Has Broken is a hymn.

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  • 10. At 7:02pm on 10 Dec 2009, sxg123 wrote:

    Please ask Adrian (again) to refrain from leaning into shot when the camera is on the guest - or re-position the autocue as he obviously has to lean forward to read it - as many bloggers have previously commented.

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  • 11. At 7:04pm on 10 Dec 2009, highland fling wrote:

    Post 3 I want a social life like yours!!!Post 8 Hokey is King of blogs, and Jade is Queen!!Saw One Show, and Alan Titchmarsh show being fined for guests swearing !Bette Midler night !poor Adrian got it in the nack from bloggers for pointing it out to Bette, but Adrian probably was screamed at from producers!you cant win!Fox Hunting ?please god no no no !

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  • 12. At 7:05pm on 10 Dec 2009, Gaynor wrote:

    I have just witnessed by husbands bird of prey being attacked in our back garden this afternoon by a fox I can have no sympathy for these creatures.

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  • 13. At 7:10pm on 10 Dec 2009, gill charles wrote:

    Fox hunting? Get a grip! It's soooooo old hat! I was "debating" this as a schoolgirl in the 70s!

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  • 14. At 7:12pm on 10 Dec 2009, ludo wrote:

    the only reason it is back on the political agenda is becuase it's getting all too difficult for the politicians. So what they needed was something they all understood, they know what a dog is, they know what a fox is and they know what a horse is.
    So now they think they can talk about something with some authority.

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  • 15. At 7:19pm on 10 Dec 2009, kazibeth wrote:

    For heavens sake, the man who argues that foxhunting attracts lots of supporters/participants forgets that burning witches at the stake used to attract lots of supporters/participants, but that didn't make it right!

    And I am a rural resident! - I have lived here, in a tiny village in the middle of nowhere, for many years. I love rural life, and rural pursuits, but I find fox-hunting REPELLANT!

    Not all blood-thirsty people live in the country, and not all people who care about animals live in the towns.

    Killing for fun is wrong, the law says it's wrong, it's not cool- it's disgusting. Just get over it!!!

    Kazibeth

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  • 16. At 7:19pm on 10 Dec 2009, GAZ911 wrote:

    My mate's band use to support Cat stevens in the 60s and hes told some stories about him that are very mmmmmmmm.....interesting to say the least.

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  • 17. At 7:19pm on 10 Dec 2009, Ros Swetman wrote:

    Please stop maintaining the view that the debate is about country versus town. Plenty of true country dwellers are anti hunting - my first husband and I farmed nearly 400 acres in Norfolk, his family before him, and the hunt was never welcome and not allowed to cross our land. Foxes did us more good than harm in keeping rabbits down !
    We had plenty of 2nd and 3rd generation Norfolk farmer friends who considered it inhumane and the hunt was not welcome on their land either.

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  • 18. At 7:19pm on 10 Dec 2009, charles pottenger wrote:

    I think that the hunting of any animal with or without dogs as a sport is totaly barbarac and extremly offensive

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  • 19. At 7:22pm on 10 Dec 2009, hokeykokeyalex wrote:

    i just try to make it interesting,,,jadedoldie is the best.
    angelica said london is the best known skyline...it is on the one show.
    i hate fox hunting,love yusuf...thanks one show for giving him time.
    london,london,norwich and bristol...are you watching watchingone?
    i also thought it was funny that paddy was claiming that fox hunting is a big political topic at the monment,it is in paddy's head.
    another old story from the one show dressed up as new.

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  • 20. At 7:22pm on 10 Dec 2009, RJ wrote:

    Making something suffer for pleasure is wrong on all levels and there simply cannot be (and, indeed, isn't) any defense for it. The hunters have never been able to justify it except in the only way they can - it is an industry, affecting the lives of real people; foxes are vermin and they do the nation and the farmers a great favour; if you don't support it, you are not British and they adopt this sort of Dunkirk spirit in the face of adversity (a bit like the suffragette movement, too, except without the just cause).

    1. Foxes are not vermin. Humans set up camp in their territory, so I think this argument is turvy topsy.
    2. These out of touch neathanderals couldn't give a jot for real industries going under or how real people live. How many times have you seen this creepy bunch storming Parliament to protest against the lot of the ordinary man or woman?
    3. Also, I've heard porn referred to as an industry. What impact on it does making paedophilia illegal? No, really. Surely both 'industries' thrive on making the vulnerable and innocent suffer for their pleasure and greed?
    4. Many farmers and those who rely on farming and the masters of the great houses/major landowners for their livelihoods aren't really going to be able to express their true opinions about hunting and shooting without any risk, are they? So you can't rely on the apparent thousands that are supposed to support it - look at the reasons why they do. It doesn't take a genius to work out that the Countryside Alliance was sabotaged from the outset by the hunting set. I really care about what happens to the countryside and the people in it, but I can't support the main message of the Countryside Alliance because it seems they've made killing things top of their agenda.
    5. Re. Dunkirk spirit. I thought it was the other side who set dogs on the persecuted in the last war and the true British spirit fought against it - again, another turvy topsy view.
    6. There is certainly nothing British about this - as a British person, I want to see an end to such an injustice. Nothing should be suffering in 21st century Britain for the pleasure of anyone, but especially a minority who think they are in some way superior to the rest of us - you don't get many people who aren't Royal Family supporters supporting this outrage, so you can't ignore that there is something in it.
    7. Figures show quite clearly (especially with reference to violent crime) that those who don't respect animals don't respect people (Baby Peter's murdering stepfather took great pleasure in torturing animals. So did Ian Brady. I could go on). These so called 'hunters' indoctrinate their children as much as any junkie or thief might indoctrinate theirs and perpetuate the misery they cause.
    8. That we're actually debating whether or not to end suffering (and after so long) makes me quite sad for the future of the human race.
    9. If you got rid of the Royal Family (and, therefore, all their fanatical supporters (including those celebrities who play the public because they're working towards being endowed with titles by a grateful monarch at some point in the future) and the class system), you'd get rid of hunting once and for all. Two abominations gone for the price of one. Tally-ho!
    10. Or even three - this topic has been high on the agenda of the Conservatives. They've chosen a leader who has been clear - driven - about revoking the Hunting Bill since he got in. You can almost see his strings. Be wary if you elect them, though. The majority of the country is still against hunting, but hunting has never stopped. These out of touch people will always think they are better than the ordinary man and don't have to adhere to our laws. You won't, I think, be voting in a democracy. More of a kingdom.

    And, for those poor misguided fools who have fallen for the 'nanny state' line they've been fed by those who really couldn't care less about them, a nanny state is one where you are told how to run your life by legislation (i.e., whether you can take drugs; what vitamins you can take; how many hours of exercise you can do each day; etc.). A nanny state is not where there are laws to prevent you from hurting or affecting anything else. What you choose to do to yourself should be up to you. I completely agree. If you are given all the information you need to make an informed decision. Preventing child abuse, murder, hunting, speeding, stealing, by laws - anything where you involve, or could involve, something else outside of you and where what you do affects anything else – is not a nanny state.

    I've written a poem:

    Nanny State

    "Bah! Nanny state", I hear you cry
    And I have to wonder why

    Nannies tell you what to do
    That I don't dispute is true

    They make you eat up all your food
    And tell you orf for being rude

    I've even heard they can get haughty
    If you're just a little naughty

    They wipe your nose and wash off dirt
    Watch over you so you don't get hurt

    But it's never once been said that Nanny - or your favourite ted
    Have had a say, or hand - or paw
    In any statutory law

    No - it's the war cry of the caught
    Doing things that they didn't ought

    The League Against Cruel Sports have the REAL Dunkirk spirit. Please check them out and join in their fight to stop these awful, cruel people from running our country.

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  • 21. At 7:23pm on 10 Dec 2009, daisy wrote:

    I was fascinated to see the item about the smog as my grandfather was the bus man holding the torch, his name was Albert Mead and he lived in Edmonton, North London.

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  • 22. At 7:26pm on 10 Dec 2009, hokeykokeyalex wrote:

    it is good to see "country" people speaking up against hunting.
    i really do believe it is the toffs and hangers on that want hunting.
    most people do not give a damn.
    if they want to make it a class war then let them.

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  • 23. At 7:26pm on 10 Dec 2009, Jacko wrote:

    Pity we didn't hear more from Cat/Yusuf. Some guests it seems, are given more air time than others. It's normally the interesting ones who are cut short, probably because they are considered boring and aren't 'celeb' enough.

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  • 24. At 7:29pm on 10 Dec 2009, hokeykokeyalex wrote:

    Jacko...was worth it to hear his great voice.

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  • 25. At 7:30pm on 10 Dec 2009, astroplums wrote:

    Very surprised that no mention was made of Cat Stevens conversion to Islam and his turning his back on what he previously described as his hedonistic lifestyle in pop.

    The last I heard was that he had set up an Islamic girls school.

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  • 26. At 7:30pm on 10 Dec 2009, hunter2 wrote:

    first you hunt with hounds adrian not dogs yes the ban on hunting should be lifted as should the law on hare coursing the goverment should not get in volved with things that they dont under stand. keep hunting keep fighting. tally hoo

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  • 27. At 7:30pm on 10 Dec 2009, Jacko wrote:

    Hokey.....yes, pity it wasn't on longer.

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  • 28. At 7:32pm on 10 Dec 2009, Jacko wrote:

    @ 22

    You are so right on every level with the comments you have made. I've known people who have been involved in hunting, and you are right, it's the 'toffs' and hangers-on without a doubt. It's all done to be in with the 'in crowd'. I used to ride but would never hunt.

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  • 29. At 7:33pm on 10 Dec 2009, Rinty wrote:

    re #20: alfresco2can,

    If you are against Foxhunting then stop beating around the bush and come right out and say so.

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  • 30. At 7:34pm on 10 Dec 2009, dutchblog wrote:

    Yusuf Islam - well, to my opinion came over as very decent & interesting. Enjoyed the show – Robin’s included.

    [What the fox was that on the escalator early on!]

    hokeykokeyalex – you enjoyed it?

    #9 Jacko - who wrote it?

    # 20 - see #3 (& #11) and follow suit

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  • 31. At 7:36pm on 10 Dec 2009, Len West wrote:

    See that Mr. Netherlands blog is on again - not more bingo please !!!!

    Adrian looked quite smart tonight (got to say that cus I got the same shirt - £15.99 from M&S) Christine - luv ya but prefer the red lipstick ..

    annnnd Cat Stevens ... best guest for ages yet totally pushed into the background - the guy presenting the piece on foxhunting way OTT
    but.. good show tonight.

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  • 32. At 7:36pm on 10 Dec 2009, astroplums wrote:

    26 hunter2

    Since when was a hound not a dog or are we just being precious?

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  • 33. At 7:36pm on 10 Dec 2009, Richard Trevelyan wrote:

    The fact that you showed Cat Stevens' on your show tonight is indicative of the apparent schizophrenic nature of todays BBC.A little while ago you sacked m/s Thatcher for making an alleged racist remark (in private) and mealy mouthed Adrian Charles together with foul-mouthed so-called comedienne Jo Brand ganging up on her. Today you are endorsing someone who openly and publicly supported the killing of Salman Rushdie over a book! What is going on, and what is our licence fee for?

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  • 34. At 7:36pm on 10 Dec 2009, hokeykokeyalex wrote:

    hunter2.....your blog sums you up perfectly.
    i am sure that trying to make a point about dogs/hounds will win it for you.
    or the great one that the government(who i support on this) do not understand hunting-only those who support it eh?
    and at the end you say,,,keep hunting,keep fighting...perfect...i can see you in my mind's eye.

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  • 35. At 7:37pm on 10 Dec 2009, Jacko wrote:

    dutchblog

    Eleanor Farjeon wrote the hymn in 1931.

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  • 36. At 7:37pm on 10 Dec 2009, hokeykokeyalex wrote:

    dutchblog .a reserved yes......

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  • 37. At 7:39pm on 10 Dec 2009, hokeykokeyalex wrote:

    Len West.he likes his numbers.

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  • 38. At 7:39pm on 10 Dec 2009, Rinty wrote:

    Foxhunting.

    If you want find out how good a rider you are then follow the hounds. It will test your ability to the limit. It is also very dangerous.

    But it's a pity to see a fox hunted this way. Somehow it does not seem fair. I see no harm in following an artificial scent. Surely even the most intrepid of our class warriors can not object to this pursuit.

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  • 39. At 7:42pm on 10 Dec 2009, hokeykokeyalex wrote:

    John Holyer.. it seems to me that the hunting people want to call it a class war.
    it is a smokescreen for what is a cruel thing...i will not call it sport.
    riding is great,,,i agree with your blog.

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  • 40. At 7:42pm on 10 Dec 2009, Len West wrote:

    # 26
    Love your point about the goverment not getting involved in things they don't understand .. can we add
    The Economy
    Imigration
    The war in Iraq / Afghanistan
    M.P.s expenses
    Banker's bonuses
    The poor / rich divide
    The Social Services
    The Judicary

    Got to admit fox hunting must be high in there somewhere

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  • 41. At 7:43pm on 10 Dec 2009, hokeykokeyalex wrote:

    , astroplums... you can read the anger in his words.his name suits him.

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  • 42. At 7:44pm on 10 Dec 2009, kazibeth wrote:

    So, Hunter2, "the goverment should not get in volved with things that they dont under stand."

    The Government, like me, doesn't understand why people abuse children, why people kill other people, why people take a pride in beating people up, or why people drink to the point where they don't know what they are doing. So, on the basis of your argument, they should'nt get involved in trying to prevent, or punish, any of these activities.

    I have no respect for anyone who does these things, and I certainly have no respect for those who enjoy killing.

    As I said before, hunting is wrong, and it is now, quite rightly, illegal so just stop bleating about it, and get a life!

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  • 43. At 7:45pm on 10 Dec 2009, Wotsisname wrote:

    Thanks to kazibeth for her intelligent comments and pithy apprasal of fox-hunting as "repellent", very true. It is also barbaric, cruel and unworthy of a civilised country. Gandhi said that you can assess the greatness and moral progress of a nation by the way it treats its animals, so true.
    We can also judge individuals by this yardstick so it follows that David Cameron is not fit to be PM as he approves of hunting and has done it himself. That means he not only favours cruelty to animals but is willing to ignore the views of about 80% of the UK population who are against hunting, so he doesn't like democracy much either. If anyone doubts how cruel it is find out the facts, visit League Against
    Cruel Sports website, or Hunt Sabs Association, even the RSPCA is against it so it must be bad! Sadly the One Show didn't really explore the subject and didn't devote enough time to it. They should have asked Cat Stevens why he didn't keep his chickens secure and safe, it was his fault they were killed.

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  • 44. At 7:45pm on 10 Dec 2009, Richard Trevelyan wrote:

    PS; do your actions mean that any behaviour becomes acceptable after a predetermined passage of time? If so, when will Carol,(e?) a decent, moderate person be allowed back; if she'd come back that is (I wouldn't!)

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  • 45. At 7:45pm on 10 Dec 2009, LarryStuart wrote:

    Fox hunting, old hat, but, I do not think we should be killing foxes just for some groups fun, remember the Oscar Wilde quip.

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  • 46. At 7:46pm on 10 Dec 2009, Jacko wrote:

    LarryStuart

    And the Oscar Wilde quip is.........?

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  • 47. At 7:48pm on 10 Dec 2009, Jacko wrote:

    Mad Dogs and Englishmen go out in the midday sun perhaps........?

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  • 48. At 7:49pm on 10 Dec 2009, scuzzy983 wrote:

    Can anybody please tell me the name of the music used in Angelica Bell's piece on the London smog of 1952?
    It's a woodwind piece that I've heard a few times before, but have never found out the name of it! Thanks. :-)

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  • 49. At 7:49pm on 10 Dec 2009, hokeykokeyalex wrote:

    Richard Trevelyan.. i am still waiting for the legal action that all her friends and supporters promised us.

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  • 50. At 7:50pm on 10 Dec 2009, dutchblog wrote:

    # 31 good evening, who said it was Mr?
    # 35 Jacko, thank you.
    # 36 , 37 O´K

    I´m interested to hear the new CD, at least a deserving guest to promote something

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  • 51. At 7:51pm on 10 Dec 2009, hunter2 wrote:

    32
    you hunt with hounds like blood hounds fox hounds you dont call them blood dogs or fox dogs plus we are not toffs i am not ritch and i dont ride a horse i follow my local pack on foot fight prejudice fight the ban

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  • 52. At 7:53pm on 10 Dec 2009, Len West wrote:

    #50
    Neem alstublieft mijn appologies juffrouw aan / Mevr. nederlandsblog

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  • 53. At 7:53pm on 10 Dec 2009, Jacko wrote:

    dutchblog

    Graag gedaan.

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  • 54. At 7:54pm on 10 Dec 2009, hokeykokeyalex wrote:

    hunter2....but they are dog's?

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  • 55. At 7:55pm on 10 Dec 2009, SilverMaisie wrote:

    The Pro-Hunting Lobby tried to twist the issue by making out it wasn't just 'posh' people who hunted. I don't have a problem with the people who hunt, whether they are 'posh' or not, but I do have a problem with what they do. No matter how they try to dress it up, fox hunting is just wrong. So is badger baiting, hare coursing, cock fighting, dog fighting.....

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  • 56. At 7:55pm on 10 Dec 2009, Len West wrote:

    # 52 still rusty - should read verontschuldigingsjuffrouw Neem alstublieft mijn verontschuldigingsjuffrouw juffrouw aan / Mevr. nederlandsblog

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  • 57. At 7:56pm on 10 Dec 2009, dutchblog wrote:

    #52 en # 53 No problem/Geen probleem

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  • 58. At 7:57pm on 10 Dec 2009, hokeykokeyalex wrote:

    hunter2. i am pointing out that everytime i hear about the subject on tv it is a rather posh chap telling me it is a class war.
    are your own supporters wrong?

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  • 59. At 8:00pm on 10 Dec 2009, Jacko wrote:

    @ 55

    Hear, hear to your last two sentences.

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  • 60. At 8:00pm on 10 Dec 2009, hokeykokeyalex wrote:

    SilverMaisie. i agree,,the class thing is the smoke screen to hide the horrible intent.

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  • 61. At 8:02pm on 10 Dec 2009, Richard Trevelyan wrote:

    What's the matter, are you afraid to publish my previous, accurate and entirely justified comments', or is this blog only for those who agree with you? Is that what 'awaiting moderation' means?

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  • 62. At 8:03pm on 10 Dec 2009, hunter2 wrote:

    58
    no only because we have a posh chap speaking it dos nt mean we are all posh like every one who gose to the footy on saterday are not all looking for a fight. Every anti i have met has called us posh **** or toffs witch we are not some are off the higher class but most r day to day people.

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  • 63. At 8:03pm on 10 Dec 2009, kazibeth wrote:

    Hunter 2 says "i am not ritch and i dont ride a horse i follow my local pack on foot"

    Would just love to see you jumping the hedges!

    If you are not "ritch" and you don't have a horse, then I assume you are just one of the "hangers-on" who don't participate in the joy and challenge of the ride (which I can appreciate) but just want to be in there for the kill!

    Sad man!

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  • 64. At 8:06pm on 10 Dec 2009, LarryStuart wrote:

    Jacko,

    The unspeakable pursuing the uneatable.

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  • 65. At 8:06pm on 10 Dec 2009, hunter2 wrote:

    63
    i go hunting cos i enjoy watching hounds work covers love the nose the hunts man makes on his horn u should hear gone away best nose ever plus hounds in full cry is amazing love it love it

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  • 66. At 8:07pm on 10 Dec 2009, Richard Trevelyan wrote:

    PS: my last blog refers to a comment I sent at 7:36pm which refers to Cat Stevens's (as was)public support for the killing of Salman Rushdie, and which is still 'awaiting moderation'

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  • 67. At 8:09pm on 10 Dec 2009, Jacko wrote:

    @ 64

    Oh excellent! Yes, I have heard that one. Superb!!

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  • 68. At 8:09pm on 10 Dec 2009, Rinty wrote:

    re #20: Alfresco2can,

    You come across as someone who sees Foxhunting solely in political terms. For you it is nothing more than a handy club with which to beat your political foes. You seem to care little for the fox. Your piece comes across as a bit of a rant. I can sense the venom.

    You have even written us a poem.

    I was turned against this method of culling foxes as a child. When I read the poem 'Renyard The Fox' by John Masefield. It is a long poem. The empathy lies with the Fox throughout. Here are just two stanzas:

    "Within, as he reached that soft green turf,
    The wind, blowing lonely, moaned like surf,
    Desolate ramparts rose up steep
    On either side, for the ghosts to keep.
    He raced the trench, past the rabbit warren,
    Close-grown with moss which the wind made barren;
    He passed the spring where the rushes spread,
    And there in the stones was his earth ahead.
    One last short burst upon failing feet -
    There life lay waiting, so sweet, so sweet,
    Rest in a darkness, balm for aches.

    The earth was stopped. It was barred with stakes."

    And later

    "He crossed the spinney with ears intent
    For the cry of hounds on the way he went;
    His heart was thumping, the hounds were near now,
    He could make no sprint at a cry and cheer now,
    He was past his perfect, his strength was failing,
    His brush sag-sagged and his legs were ailing.
    He felt, as he skirted Dead Men's Town,
    That in one mile more they would have him down. "

    That, Alfresco, is truly poetry that can change the way one thinks and feels.

    But, unlike you, I do not despise those who go Foxhunting.

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  • 69. At 8:10pm on 10 Dec 2009, Len West wrote:

    # 65 As a non country person - translation please

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  • 70. At 8:12pm on 10 Dec 2009, kazibeth wrote:

    So, Hunter 2 you " love the nose the hunts man makes on his horn" - I have never liked my nose, perhaps you could persuade him
    to make another one for me?

    and again you say " u should hear gone away best nose ever plus hounds in full cry is amazing " - I live in the country, remember?
    I have heard it many times, and it makes me sick to my stomach! It also makes my dog bark, which is annoying.

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  • 71. At 8:12pm on 10 Dec 2009, hokeykokeyalex wrote:

    hunter2 .keep hunting,keep fighting...your words.
    so are you saying the hunting brigade leaders that i have seen on television in the past and claim it is a class war are wrong?
    you do not agree with the organised groups leaders who want hunting with DOGS made legal again when they say that?-it being a class war that is.
    why is it only people who support hunting understand it?
    is it a very efficient way of keeping foxes down?
    ie....loads of horses,loads of people,loads of hounds...and you might catch one fox?

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  • 72. At 8:12pm on 10 Dec 2009, astroplums wrote:

    #51 hunter2

    A dog is a dog is a dog - it doesn't matter what the **** you call them.

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  • 73. At 8:14pm on 10 Dec 2009, Jacko wrote:

    @ 69

    I think it would be easier to understand if the punctuation and spelling were correct.

    'Nose' should read 'noise' and 'gone away' should be in apostrophes.

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  • 74. At 8:16pm on 10 Dec 2009, hokeykokeyalex wrote:

    Len West..our hunter friend is a little hard to follow.
    i will translate...love wearing combats and i have an air rifle.
    my dog chases rabbits and i am proud when the hounds(not dogs) catch a fox and rip it's terified little body to shreds...then we smear the blood on a new hunt person...oh what a great noise.

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  • 75. At 8:17pm on 10 Dec 2009, Rinty wrote:

    re #39: HKA,

    If it is not a perceived a class thing, then why do so many of the anti hunt lobby refer to the fox hunters as toffs, including on this blog?

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  • 76. At 8:17pm on 10 Dec 2009, Len West wrote:

    # 73 Not from the playing fields of Eton here, then...

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  • 77. At 8:18pm on 10 Dec 2009, kazibeth wrote:

    Thank you, John Holyer, for reminding me of that beautiful poem.

    It seems Hunter 2 is bucking the British way here. - The British way is to condemn the killer and support the victim. Perhaps he can tell us why he supports the killers, and cares nothing for the victims in this case?

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  • 78. At 8:18pm on 10 Dec 2009, Jacko wrote:

    @76

    My sentiments exactly.

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  • 79. At 8:20pm on 10 Dec 2009, Richard Trevelyan wrote:

    PPS: His support of the 'fatwah' on Salman Rushdie was as Josuf Islam and, in my view, he should not now be endorsed in any way whatsoever. Let alone on national television! As far as I know encouragement to kill another human being (howsoever wrapped in legal jargon) is still against the law (passage of time notwithstanding!)

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  • 80. At 8:21pm on 10 Dec 2009, oneeyedjack wrote:

    Len West 31

    If you paid £15.99 for that take it back for a refund and as for red lipstick - no! - makes her look Betty Davis on a bad day.

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  • 81. At 8:21pm on 10 Dec 2009, Jacko wrote:

    @ 74

    I am laughing at your comments.

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  • 82. At 8:21pm on 10 Dec 2009, Len West wrote:

    #70 Kazibeth, I bet you've got a lovely nose - unlike HKA's which keeps growing and growing..

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  • 83. At 8:23pm on 10 Dec 2009, hokeykokeyalex wrote:

    John Holyer .what i am saying is that whenever the subject is brought up the supporters of the hunt say it is a class war thing.
    i have said that if they want to call it a class war thing then let them.
    i am not saying it is or is not.
    do you think it is a class war?
    or do you think that is just a smoke screen as i am possibly saying.
    or are you just wanting to argue again?

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  • 84. At 8:23pm on 10 Dec 2009, hokeykokeyalex wrote:

    Len West..but i picked it myself.

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  • 85. At 8:25pm on 10 Dec 2009, kazibeth wrote:

    *62 Hunter 2 Every anti i have met has called us posh **** or toffs witch we are not

    I haven't noticed anyone here calling you either "posh" or a "toff", which you clearly are not.

    I would certainly never do such a thing - I would just call you ver misguided, and unable to accept the democratic process!

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  • 86. At 8:28pm on 10 Dec 2009, dutchblog wrote:

    O’K then, apart from hokeykokeyalex, Jacko , maybe Len West and myself who would be the ultimate guest on the One Show?
    Which has been the best show?
    What is the best blog to date?

    pax vobiscum

    (#5 hokeykokeyalex = you goona make it?)

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  • 87. At 8:29pm on 10 Dec 2009, hokeykokeyalex wrote:

    kazibeth.... and my point is that everytime i see someone on tv supporting the hunt they have a posh voice and tell us it is a class war.
    i am not saying they are posh...or it is a class war.
    i am saying it is a smoke screen to hide a terrible "pastime".

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  • 88. At 8:30pm on 10 Dec 2009, RJ wrote:

    No. 65 You enjoy being accepted by a minority of other weak people who cling to each other. Making something suffer, but especially because you get off on it, is obscene. A bit like Dickens observations of the slavering crowd enjoying the party-like atmosphere of the execution. It's not right and not acceptable, especially if you are supposed to be civilised

    No. 68 I only sound political about it because it is. You have to answer those who have the power to stop it and I was only stating the obvious. That you don't feel I care about the fox is a bit of a daft thing to suppose in light of my post and I respectfully suggest you go to Specsavers. I'm very pleased you don't agree with the hunting of foxes

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  • 89. At 8:31pm on 10 Dec 2009, hokeykokeyalex wrote:

    dutchblog ,,,,,,,,,,i would be a terrible guest,telling them they are londoncentric every 4 minutes.

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  • 90. At 8:32pm on 10 Dec 2009, hokeykokeyalex wrote:

    Alfresco2can.. yes- let us not forget johnholyer really agree's with you.

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  • 91. At 8:33pm on 10 Dec 2009, hunter2 wrote:

    yea i cant spell u see i aint a toff lol well any way must go got work tonight o and 72 they are hounds and thanks 4 the spelling lesson too lovely talking to u all hope one day hunting with hounds is legal agen and u can all come and see wot its all about and u never no u may enjoy it its quiet socail to tally hoo

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  • 92. At 8:33pm on 10 Dec 2009, dutchblog wrote:

    #89 – hokeykokeyalex – isn’t this what you do on the blog?
    Signed Joe King.

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  • 93. At 8:34pm on 10 Dec 2009, hokeykokeyalex wrote:

    hunter2............one day they might bring back hanging,you can sell the tickets.

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  • 94. At 8:36pm on 10 Dec 2009, stuart nuttall wrote:

    Hi I was driving along from 1 appointment to another , when the local hunt appeared excercising their hounds. I was abused when I said it was a road a public right of way. I explained I was only working ad would they get out of my way. They bacame really abusive and said I better hadnt hurt their animals. I then explained as a vegeterian I will not harm any animals They said would I like to get out and discuss this. I said I was vegetarian not stupid. They were really threatening and to be truthfull I was afraid to get out of my car as I was outnumbered by people and50 or 60 dogs. Its still a class thing and really sadistic and only entertainment( not for the foxes and deer. Stuart Nuttall

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  • 95. At 8:37pm on 10 Dec 2009, Len West wrote:

    # Sorry Dutcblog - not got a book, DVD, or tour to promote - therefore no chance - I do however do a good line in quick fire jokes and have a few available dates for hunt balls etc.

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  • 96. At 8:38pm on 10 Dec 2009, hunter2 wrote:

    88 two fat ladies i dont care wot u think to be honest hunting is part off our great island like shakspaer beckhams right foot cream teas and many other things. x

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  • 97. At 8:40pm on 10 Dec 2009, RJ wrote:

    No. 12 "I have just witnessed by husbands bird of prey being attacked in our back garden this afternoon by a fox I can have no sympathy for these creatures."

    So, your husband's bird of prey (i.e., bird used to hunt other defenseless creatures, but at the bidding of a human) was attacked by a fox who saw a something that would help it survive? What part of what you said makes the fox the baddie?

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  • 98. At 8:41pm on 10 Dec 2009, hunter2 wrote:

    93 will only sell the tickets if i get one off those boths to sit in with tv so i can watch hunting lol

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  • 99. At 8:43pm on 10 Dec 2009, Jacko wrote:

    @ 93

    Hokey, he would be the executioner, never mind selling the tickets!!

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  • 100. At 8:43pm on 10 Dec 2009, hokeykokeyalex wrote:

    hunter2. you have been brilliant,,,please do blog again...
    my highlight...shakspaer beckhams right foot cream teas and many other things".
    fantastic
    shakspaer himself could not better.

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  • 101. At 8:44pm on 10 Dec 2009, hokeykokeyalex wrote:

    Jacko ...as he say's..."keep hunting keep fighting".

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  • 102. At 8:45pm on 10 Dec 2009, Len West wrote:

    # I'm beginning to think that Hunter 2 is a bit of a wind up artist (it's not you Melanie, is it?) If not can I sit in the both with you - but only to watch The One Show?

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  • 103. At 8:45pm on 10 Dec 2009, Jacko wrote:

    @ 96

    I hardly think 'Beckham's right foot' can be mentioned alongside Shakespeare........oh dear..........

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  • 104. At 8:45pm on 10 Dec 2009, hunter2 wrote:

    100 loved every min off it one day might try to be pm wot do u think but must go to work will join in more often take care all and remembre keep hunting

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  • 105. At 8:46pm on 10 Dec 2009, Jacko wrote:

    @ 101

    Shaking my head in wonderment at it all..........................

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  • 106. At 8:46pm on 10 Dec 2009, Len West wrote:

    ~103 Totally agree - Shakespeare was left footed!!!

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  • 107. At 8:48pm on 10 Dec 2009, kazibeth wrote:

    Foxhunting certainly isn't a case of class war.

    We have Hunter 2 (who obviously isn't posh) working towards the return of the barbaric practice (mind you, I don't think he really understands the ethical argument)

    And on other side, you have many rural residents who are very posh (like me. LOL! ) I have told local hunters "The next time any of you set foot on my land, I will SET MY DOGS ON YOU and see how you like it!) I also have a shotgun (for clay pigeon shooting, I hasten to add), which I would love to wave in their direction, but unfortunately, because I obey the law, it is locked up so securely that the hunt is long gone by the time I get it out from it's extremely secure and hidden triple-locked box.

    Now that would make an interesting debate - Hunter 2 who is clearly not posh, on the Pro side, and me (who can do very posh very well) on the Anti side. That might change people's perception, and get down to the nitty gritty of what this is REALLY all about -----
    KILLING!

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  • 108. At 8:48pm on 10 Dec 2009, Jacko wrote:

    @ 106

    I think you knew what I meant by my remark, which had no bearing whatsoever on what you have just said.....as you well know!!!!!!!

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  • 109. At 8:48pm on 10 Dec 2009, hokeykokeyalex wrote:

    Jacko,,,,,who is Shakespeare ?
    is he shakspaer brother?

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  • 110. At 8:48pm on 10 Dec 2009, hunter2 wrote:

    not a wind up artist just stiking up 4 wot i belive in and haveing a joke along the way nothing wrong with that is there not my fault i have the fastest mouth in the south as my mates say or as some off u said hanger ons bye bye

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  • 111. At 8:49pm on 10 Dec 2009, Jacko wrote:

    @ 109

    Hokey.......now you're just being silly..............go and have a lie down.

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  • 112. At 8:50pm on 10 Dec 2009, hokeykokeyalex wrote:

    Jacko..i have a big nose,,,len west tells good jokes...it's growing again.

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  • 113. At 8:52pm on 10 Dec 2009, hokeykokeyalex wrote:

    Jacko ....yes time to go...goodnight my friend.
    johnholyer,please be gentle with them all.they do not understand.

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  • 114. At 8:53pm on 10 Dec 2009, Jacko wrote:

    @ 112

    Thanks for our chat tonight Hokey, Len and Dutchblog. Nice to see that some people acknowledge your presence isn't it?

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  • 115. At 8:55pm on 10 Dec 2009, hokeykokeyalex wrote:

    goodnight to all bloggers,,,even if we agree or not i enjoy your input....
    orf for cream tea ,don't ya know...

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  • 116. At 8:56pm on 10 Dec 2009, Len West wrote:

    #112 HKA signing off now ..so I'll leave you with this one

    One for the men folk to be aware of?!?



    Over the last couple of months this guy became a victim of a clever 'Eastern
    European' scam while out shopping.

    Simply dropping into Asda for a bit of shopping has turned out to be quite
    traumatic. Don't be naive enough to think it couldn't happen to you or your
    friends.

    Here's how the scam works:

    Two seriously good-looking voluptuous 20-21 year-old girls come over to your
    car as you are packing your shopping into the boot. They both start cleaning
    your windscreen. Their large firm young breasts almost falling out of their
    skimpy T-shirts. It's impossible not to look especially with all the rain we
    have been having. When you thank them and offer them a tip, they'll say
    'No' and instead ask you for a lift to another store, in my case, Morrisons
    at the other side of town.
    You agree (well it would be rude to refuse) and they both get in the
    backseat.
    On the way, they start undressing, and both get completely naked. Then, when
    you pull over to remonstrate, one of them climbs over into the front seat
    and starts crawling all over your lap, kissing you, touching you intimately,
    and thrusting herself against you, while the other one steals your wallet!

    I had my wallet stolen on July 4th, 9th, 10th, twice on the 15th, 17th and
    29th. Also Aug 1st and 4th, twice on the 6th, three times last Saturday and
    very likely again this coming weekend.
    So Be Warned!

    P.S. Lidl have wallets on sale for £1.99 each, Aldi are £1.75 and look
    nicer.

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  • 117. At 8:57pm on 10 Dec 2009, kazibeth wrote:

    Have never participated in this sort of blog before - it is good fun! I might come back and have another go!

    However, now that Hunter 2 has chickened out, I have some surfing to do.

    Good night, nice talking to you all.

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  • 118. At 8:58pm on 10 Dec 2009, Jacko wrote:

    @ 116

    Oh my God! Love your joke, I'm laughing!! That's a good one.

    You'd better start stocking up on wallets I think, dib dib dib....Be Prepared!!!!!!!!!

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  • 119. At 8:58pm on 10 Dec 2009, watchingone wrote:

    post 11 Highland Fling, just googled out of interest to find out about this swearing thing you mentioned, surprise surprise its the daily wail again, they seem to have it in for A & C at the moment. Personally, I dont think they could have heard/registered what Bette had said, as both apologised immediately when Ozzy swore the other day. Then, as you say, Adrian was probably told to apologise and consequently got it in the neck from the bloggers - one in particular said he was "obsequious" - but then I think that was John Holyer, who isnt known for being A's biggest fan.

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  • 120. At 8:58pm on 10 Dec 2009, sky_viewer wrote:

    hunter2 - the hound is a type of dog.

    Fox hunting is a barbaric activity. Listening to all the supporters of it at the time when it was in the news so much, it very much came across as a blood-hungry pastime (with much misguided rejoicing) and anything such as keeping fox numbers down (see also post 71) was never used in the argument by these people. All we had was that a ban would take away their freedom, while conveniently never mentioning the defenceless fox.

    Good posts by kazibeth on the subject tonight. Welcome to the One Show blog.

    Enjoyed post 5 on religion and Santa.

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  • 121. At 9:01pm on 10 Dec 2009, hokeykokeyalex wrote:

    Len West...116...superb...put a smile on both of my face's.

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  • 122. At 9:03pm on 10 Dec 2009, sky_viewer wrote:

    Re 48: scuzzy183 - I must listen to it again as I was in and out of the room at the time, but it seemed perfect for the accompanying film. Hopefully we can succeed in tracking it down as with Edward White's Puffin' Billy.

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  • 123. At 9:07pm on 10 Dec 2009, watchingone wrote:

    re my post 119 - apologies to John Holyer, it was jadedoldie who called Adrian obsequious. Jadedoldie isnt his biggest fan either mind you. I stand by the rest of my post though.

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  • 124. At 9:18pm on 10 Dec 2009, jadedoldie wrote:

    Len West. perhaps you could teach HKA some jokes. In the interest of being honest, I have shot foxes, I have shot foxes dying a painful and lingering death from mange and I have shot a fox who was tearing a lamb limb from limb, so I am no shrinking violet, but on the other hand I have also offered to shoot the pink coated oaf who attempted to ride across my fields after having been refused permission to hunt there! I would love to drag hunt, but I have serious issues with the arrogance of the majority of hunt members and supporters!

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  • 125. At 9:20pm on 10 Dec 2009, jadedoldie wrote:

    Watchingone I was about to mention that I made that statement, which I also stand by.

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  • 126. At 9:22pm on 10 Dec 2009, dutchblog wrote:

    bordeauxmalc
    Len West
    hokeykokeyalex - #5 – good attempt, already in the mid 120’s .
    Enjoyable showing this evening, lets see how they pad out the longer show Friday.
    Totziens !

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  • 127. At 9:23pm on 10 Dec 2009, hokeykokeyalex wrote:

    jadedoldie.....would you shoot tellers of bad jokes?

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  • 128. At 9:27pm on 10 Dec 2009, dutchblog wrote:

    # 124 jadedoldie – with yesterday’s remark from guest Rob in mind hope nobody suggests "drag hunt" is something to do in The Netherlands!

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  • 129. At 9:27pm on 10 Dec 2009, hokeykokeyalex wrote:

    got to go.ta ta....

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  • 130. At 9:27pm on 10 Dec 2009, jadedoldie wrote:

    HHHHHMMMMMM, not if it was you dear, for I realise you cannot help it, lol.

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  • 131. At 9:29pm on 10 Dec 2009, jadedoldie wrote:

    128, I hadn't thought of that dutchblog, but I appreciate the humour!
    129, night HKA.

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  • 132. At 9:53pm on 10 Dec 2009, scuzzy983 wrote:

    #122 sky_viewer: your help would be much appreciated. :-)

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  • 133. At 9:58pm on 10 Dec 2009, jadedoldie wrote:

    Post 119, watchingone, by the way I have to point out that short of prostrating himself at her feet, AC could not have fawned more over Bette Midler. Obsequious meaning fawning, I thought it the correct word to use.

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  • 134. At 10:14pm on 10 Dec 2009, Rinty wrote:

    re #88: alfresco2can,

    I am not making myself clear. I would not go fox hunting because I have empathy with the fox. But, unlike you, I do not despise those who hunt. Do not associate me with your politics or venom.

    What on earth has specsavers got to do with it. Unless it's joke which. I suppose it is meant to be. As a joke it's about as erudite as your poetry.

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  • 135. At 10:21pm on 10 Dec 2009, Rinty wrote:

    re #124: jadedoldie,

    I used to ride a lot in the past. I loved it. I too would like to drag hunt. I never have. But I believe that I can no longer ride that well. It is very dangerous. Sitting on half a ton of horse, galloping at a fence and hoping that you both go across together.

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  • 136. At 10:23pm on 10 Dec 2009, Rinty wrote:

    re #107: kazibeth,

    Surely, clay pigeons have rights too.

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  • 137. At 10:27pm on 10 Dec 2009, Bignumpty wrote:

    This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the House Rules.

  • 138. At 10:38pm on 10 Dec 2009, Rinty wrote:

    re #116: Len West,

    Thank you for that. You genuinely made me laugh out loud. You have added a touch of class to this blog. I shall chuckle at your joke all night.

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  • 139. At 10:46pm on 10 Dec 2009, Jaysee wrote:

    I don't understand why a repeal on hunting is even an issue. Are the tories so desperate for votes they'll lift anything to get them? We're talking about animal's lives, foxes being ripped to pieces, not just a cut in taxes or slapped wrists for burglars, this is about our wildlife, our foxes (and badgers etc) being destroyed for 'FUN??' They do not have a chance in hell to escape death by exhaustion, hounds, spades and bullets by people that despise them so much. I don't think there's any fun in it for the animal, do you? Why is animal abuse and torture even being considered again by a government that is fooling us into believing they will get this country back on it's feet?? I know, let's begin by letting people with half a brain and no compassion torment, torture and kill foxes. We all know it's barbaric and cruel and the excuses hunter's make for their sick pasttime is almost as amusing as their ridiculous 16th cetury uniform! 100% NO, THE BAN ON FOXES MUST NOT BE LIFTED. We shouldn't even be having to debate this evil torture in this day and age.

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  • 140. At 11:15pm on 10 Dec 2009, oneeyedjack wrote:

    137 bignumpty

    Agree with your sentiments, however remember that the BBC are a PC outfit and the odd fatwa now and then would not dissuade. They are not on our side!

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  • 141. At 11:16pm on 10 Dec 2009, oneeyedjack wrote:

    Re 140

    excuse my grammar, should have read "BBC is" not "BBC are"

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  • 142. At 11:43pm on 10 Dec 2009, jadedoldie wrote:

    Post 135, John Holyer, if my body still worked I would be aboard my boy in a heartbeat, old as I am! Surely the hell of it was wondering whether you would both arrive in the same place at the same time,lol.
    Post 138 John Holyer, Len West is turning into a little treasure isn't he!

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  • 143. At 11:52pm on 10 Dec 2009, hunter2 wrote:

    117 kazibeth
    never chikend out back on line keep hunting i love it lol any one 4 a scone and jam

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  • 144. At 00:04am on 11 Dec 2009, sky_viewer wrote:

    Re 116: Len, you are right to be concerned for the weekend - I fear these reprobates are to be found all over the country as I too have recently become a victim of this reprehensible act. It did not happen often at first, but the frequency escalated dramatically and, furthermore, I fear my local stores may be running low on wallets. Punitive action such as sitting in a both (copyright 2009 hunter2) with hunter2 to watch fox hunting may provide a suitable deterrent.

    Re 48, 122 & 132: I listened again - I thought you meant the orchestral piece used in the background later in the film but I now see that you probably meant the jazzy bit that was easier to hear. Unfortunately, I don't know what either of them are, but I've certainly heard the piece you refer to before.

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  • 145. At 01:04am on 11 Dec 2009, bordeauxmalc wrote:

    Only just got back in (it's only 8 00 p.m. here)

    Seems I have missed lively debate! On the subject of hunter2 I wonder if his English and spelling is as really bad as he wants us to believe?

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  • 146. At 01:19am on 11 Dec 2009, Howard Wright wrote:

    Before the Labour Party brought in the law against hunting the pro lobby said how it would devastate the equestrian sports scene , that stables would close, horses shot, huntsmen would be turned out of their tied homes,National Hunt racing would suffer, the British Cross Country Eventing team would go down hill etc etc. The anti lobby predicted exactly the opposite. That greater numbers would turn out to drag hunts etc when it was seen to be humane. The latter has happened and the Pro-hunt lobby is now trying to say all these extra folks are turning out to be counted in their favour !!! What a pack of liers!!!! If the law is repealed who will be the losers? THE HUNTING FRATERNITY !!!

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  • 147. At 01:36am on 11 Dec 2009, bordeauxmalc wrote:

    11 highlandfling

    Not a great deal of socialising this afternoon evening! My wife's daughter and her husband moved houses today and we were unpacking boxes. However there is much going on here this month.

    On the main subject of tonight's blog. Let's keep hunting where it is now - BANNED. It really cannot be defended!

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  • 148. At 06:41am on 11 Dec 2009, hunter2 wrote:

    146
    yes we did say all off those things but we as the hunting fraternity have worked very hard to getting our fox hounds to hunt a false trail and that was not your idea it was ours so poke your comment. as for 147 the hunting come back as the best british sport there is hay at least the ozy s wont beat us at it nor ze germans lol whoooop tally hooo

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  • 149. At 07:02am on 11 Dec 2009, gerald abrahams wrote:

    Not a very intellectual comment to add , but Christine B. looked the hottest I 've ever seen her last night. Something about the hair and make up.
    Anyway
    - good live music from Yusuf Islam

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  • 150. At 08:38am on 11 Dec 2009, hunter2 wrote:

    at the end off the day if the fox did not enjoy it he/she would not take part simples eeekkk

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  • 151. At 08:59am on 11 Dec 2009, Rinty wrote:

    re #150:
    I knew someone was going to say that. I resisted the urge to do so.

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  • 152. At 09:42am on 11 Dec 2009, hokeykokeyalex wrote:

    hunter2............he did not chicken out,,,if he was a chicken someone would set a fox on him.

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  • 153. At 10:23am on 11 Dec 2009, oneeyedjack wrote:

    Gerald Abrahams 147

    You are right, not intellectual at all. Yusuf Islam - nice music, shame he wanted Salman Rushdie killed.

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  • 154. At 12:38pm on 11 Dec 2009, bordeauxmalc wrote:

    I still have the suspicion that hunter2's spelling and grammar are somewhat deliberate and that also his comments are provocative rather than necessarily what he believes. Whatever, the response came didn't it? Any hunting enthusiast reading the blog would surely get the message that there is not a groundswell of public opinion ready to bring it back!

    A very good early morning (for me anyway) to all our bloggers. Hope to see you back kazibeth!

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  • 155. At 12:41pm on 11 Dec 2009, bordeauxmalc wrote:

    It would have been an even earlier 'Good Morning" but I couldn't get internet connection this morning for sometime, the second time it has happened this week and this in the land of technology and internet devotion?

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  • 156. At 12:44pm on 11 Dec 2009, bordeauxmalc wrote:

    Must go, have a busy day today and may not get back on the blog until late in the evening your time, but will definitely will log on whatever!

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  • 157. At 1:16pm on 11 Dec 2009, scuzzy983 wrote:

    #144 sky_viewer: thanks for trying. Maybe someone else knows what the piece of music used in Angelica Bell's piece on the London smog of 1952 is called?
    (It's used from 11.48-12.30 on the iPlayer if anyone's interested).

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  • 158. At 2:18pm on 11 Dec 2009, Ryan - One Show team wrote:

    Hi scuzzy983 - I'll look through the film paperwork and post an answer on this blog for you. But I won't get a chance to reply 'til Monday. Best wishes

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  • 159. At 2:40pm on 11 Dec 2009, Ryan - One Show team wrote:

    Hello again scuzzy983, I have an answer for you sooner than I thought. I've been told that these are the details for that piece of music:

    TRACK TITLE: MIST ON THE MOORS
    ARTIST: NFI
    COMPOSER: FARNON, ROBERT
    PUBLISHER: MARROWLYN LTD
    ALBUM TITLE: THE VINTAGE COLLECTION 1
    RECORD LABEL: BRUTON MUSIC

    =======

    Thanks for visiting The One Show website.

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  • 160. At 2:53pm on 11 Dec 2009, Len West wrote:

    # 153 I am not 100% au fait with the Salmon Rushdie incident, apart from vague recolections some years ago.

    So Google to the rescue and in every search it would seem that Cat Stevens fervently denies the allegations. Again not having been there (Kingston Univrsity London) I can't say it's factual, but it would appear that Cat Stevens was asked by a reporter (different from soap boxing in Hyde Park) what his views were on the fatawa. This is taken from Wikipedia ' The media interpreted his response ' not as oneeyedjack's proposition 'shame he wanted Salman Rushdie killed.'
    Not being a reader of the Sun et al, and their somewhat dubious' interpretations', I am of a more open mind.
    What Google reveals is a person dedicated to peace and numerous charitable foundations.

    And his music is pretty darn good too....

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  • 161. At 3:03pm on 11 Dec 2009, oneeyedjack wrote:


    Len West

    Happy for you that you have to tell us that you don't read the Sun.

    I am clearly mistaken if your facts are right and given that he took up Islam, then of course he will be a man of peace.

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  • 162. At 3:26pm on 11 Dec 2009, Richard Trevelyan wrote:

    #160 I am pushing 70 and I clearly remember the book-burning near riots and public calls by muslims for Rusdie to be put to death. Stevens was shown on national TV supporting these odious people. What kind of 'peacful' religion reckons that even criticism of their 'prophet' warrants a death sentence? Any non-muslim Englishman spouting the kind of stuff that these fanatics spout in this country wouldn't just be routinely arrested and then quietly let go, as seems to happen in the majority of cases involving muslims as perpetrators.They would be prosecuted to the full extent of the law and have the 'book thrown at them', and rightly so. If Josuf Islam is, as you say, a man who believes in peacful solutions to all conflicts, why does he not come out and publicly condemn - by name - all his religious compratriots who seemingly believe exactly the opposite?

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  • 163. At 3:31pm on 11 Dec 2009, sky_viewer wrote:

    Re 48, 122, 132, 144, 157-159: scuzzy183 - so it WAS the bit I originally thought... and the bit I particularly loved. One of our light music friends again, Robert Farnon.

    Host Ryan - many thanks. Pass on my congratulations to whoever chose it to accompany the film - it was perfect: haunting, atmospheric & so evocative.

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  • 164. At 3:41pm on 11 Dec 2009, Ryan - One Show team wrote:

    Thanks to you sky_viewer for often supplying music details on the blog, too. I'll pass on your congratulations. Best wishes.

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  • 165. At 4:14pm on 11 Dec 2009, Len West wrote:

    # 161 Do I detect sarcasm in your last sentance?
    Again from Google - 'In October 2004 the British newspapers The Sun and The Sunday Times voiced their support for Yusuf's deportation by the US government, claiming that he had supported terrorism. Yusuf successfully sued for libel and received a substantial out-of-court financial settlement and apologies from the newspapers stating that he had never supported terrorism and acknowledging that he had recently been given a Man of Peace award from the private Nobel Peace Prize Laureates Committee.'

    # 162 Immediately following the 11 September 2001, attacks on the United States, he said:
    (Google to the rescue again}
    I wish to express my heartfelt horror at the indiscriminate terrorist attacks committed against innocent people of the United States yesterday. While it is still not clear who carried out the attack, it must be stated that no right-thinking follower of Islam could possibly condone such an action. The Qur'an equates the murder of one innocent person with the murder of the whole of humanity. We pray for the families of all those who lost their lives in this unthinkable act of violence as well as all those injured; I hope to reflect the feelings of all Muslims and people around the world whose sympathies go out to the victims of this sorrowful moment.

    Richard - guilty by association? perhaps YOU might name a few names...


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  • 166. At 4:16pm on 11 Dec 2009, scuzzy983 wrote:

    sky_viewer, Host_Ryan:
    thank you very much for your help in finding the name of that wonderful piece of music. :-)

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  • 167. At 4:43pm on 11 Dec 2009, Rinty wrote:

    Salmon Rushdie:

    I was living in Bombay at the time of the Salmon Rushdie incident that led to the fatwah. I had a good friend, Shaffi. Shaffi was a Muslim. He had two grown up and well educated sons. They came to their father very agitated and hurling abuse an threats against Rushdie's book the 'Satanic Verses'. His sons were angry. They wanted to go out on to the streets and protest vehemently. Their father asked them if they had read the book. They said they hadn't. So Shaffi told them that Prophet taught that you should not talk of things about which you know nothing. He told them to go away and read Rushdie's book. They calmed down and lost interest in demonstrating. Shaffi presented Islam to me as a perceptive and gentle religion. Nowadays I cannot help wondering if it was just the singer and not the song.

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  • 168. At 5:21pm on 11 Dec 2009, sky_viewer wrote:

    Re 164/166: thank you both.

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  • 169. At 5:33pm on 11 Dec 2009, Len West wrote:

    # 162 In response to your question
    What kind of 'peacful' religion reckons that even criticism of their 'prophet' warrants a death sentence?
    I'm pleased to relply

    From the Holy Bible
    Leviticus 24:16 (King James Version)

    And he that blasphemeth the name of the LORD, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him: as well the stranger, as he that is born in the land, when he blasphemeth the name of the Lord, shall be put to death.

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  • 170. At 5:47pm on 11 Dec 2009, Richard Trevelyan wrote:

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  • 171. At 5:50pm on 11 Dec 2009, hunter2 wrote:

    in reply about my spelling and grammer i am dislexik if thats how u spell it and i may not off been using the right grammer in my argument about fox hunting all i no is that one day i hope it comes back so the fox HOUNDS of the BRITISH isles can hunt freely again

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  • 172. At 6:51pm on 11 Dec 2009, Richard Trevelyan wrote:

    Len whilst I respect your view, words are cheap; in fact there is nothing cheaper. ( you've only to look at our own politicians)Whilst I have the greatest respect for the followers of Islam that I met in various parts of the world 40 odd years ago; they were indeed men of honour and I'm sure they would condemn much of what is being done in the name of Islam now. Saladin, arguably the most formidable of Islamic warriors since Islam was created would almost certainly have condemned it, and I think that your quote from Leviticus is a cheap shot and lets you down intellectually. What you are, in effect, saying is that it would be perfectly acceptable for Christians (we are still, just about a Christian country!) to expel, kill, or in any otherwise rid ouselves of Muslims and any other minorities who don't fit in with our life style. I think you would find that such a view would gain lots of support in a country that feels itself discriminated against in favour of minorities, and people have lots of anger (justifiably) about this. Politicians of all colours seem to think that the electorate is pretty dumb, but most people, surprisingly, seem to be aware of such facts that: Christians would not be allowed to build churches in muslim countries except at risk of death, but muslims, are outraged by any such perceived prejudice in our country.It would, however, be a mistake to lay such inequalities at the door of the muslim community: The blame lies squarely with the gutless politicians who presently, supposedly run our country, and it is high time we stood up for OUR rights in our own country. Otherwise such deeply repugnant parties as the BNP will rapidly make ground, and who knows where that would end?

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  • 173. At 8:22pm on 11 Dec 2009, watchingone wrote:

    133 - jadedoldie, I was obviously a bit confused by your post because I thought you were responding to the previous post that day which was about Adrian drawing attention to Ms Midler's language faux pas by apologising for it, and I was wondering why that made him obsequious in your opinion. So with your clarification, now I understand. And all this happened about 3 blogs ago, so no doubt everyone else is now confused.

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  • 174. At 10:19pm on 11 Dec 2009, Larry Seabrook wrote:

    The hunting story was poorly investigated your reporter made a good representative for the hunt. His statement that hunts routinely lay trails for the hounds to follow is completely wrong. We have two hunts operating in my area neither lay trails. Every farmer in our valley shoots foxes any time of the year. They do not call the hunt to control any fox causing problems. The same comments are made every time the subject comes up. Always slight sneer when mentioning townies as the only opposition---rubbish. Where do farmers sell their produce to country dwellers only?? Hunting is a cruel scene which should be totally banned as unacceptable in the 21 century

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  • 175. At 11:08pm on 11 Dec 2009, Len West wrote:

    # 172
    Richard, I have to take you to task - your post #162 could have been taken straight out of the BNP handbook.
    I would like to believe that an open mind doesn't group people but accepts the characters of individuals. There is good and bad in all races, creeds and religions. The point I have is that because Cat Stevens is a Muslim doesn't make him a terrorist. I too get anoyed at 'positive' discrimination - which to anyone not P.C. equates to 'negative' discrimination. I am 'English' but I dont want to be marginalised into a group purely by my place of birth.
    Before today I was neither for or against Cat Stevens. What I have done is investigated and tried to look past the biases and stereotypes, and overall I am now of the belief that he is a good man.
    Some of the previous blogs seem unfounded and probably are stereotypicable of the policies that I, and your latest blog suggests, and you would strive to eradicate - The BNP for starters

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  • 176. At 7:34pm on 13 Dec 2009, Richard Trevelyan wrote:

    Len, thanks for your blog, I am new to this form of commnication and, in fact, have never before now become involved in one.
    I think perhaps that we are singing from the same hymn sheet but from different perspectives.I would certainly eradicate the BNP but it is, in my view,the widely held perception that positive discrimination against the indigenous population by dishonest politicians who, these days, seem to have eyes only for the main chance, that plays into the hands of the likes of Nick Griffin.

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  • 177. At 8:12pm on 13 Dec 2009, Richard Trevelyan wrote:

    Len, one thing I forgot to mention (I told you I was new at this)My issue with Yosuf Islam is not whether he is a good or a bad man, but that he is in a position - because of his music and former 'star status' - and not through any percieved qualities of an intellectual or spiritual nature; to influence people and events in ways that 'ordinary mortals' cannot. In simple language he is able to 'punch well above his weight'.
    Assuming that Muslim clerics cannot claim moral superiority over any other politico/religious groups, and also assuming that at least some of them would not be above using such an asset (why should they not? professional politicians do it all the time.) Well, there is not much point in chipping away at this,but perhaps your research can support or refute something else I seem to remember reading or watching: I have an idea that Mr Stevens, when asked by an interviewer a year or so ago, why he was resiling (political buzzword of the moment!) on a previous commitment to turn his back on fame and celebrity by making a new album; he indicated that he would not personally benefit but that all the proceeds from the sales of his records would go to the Muslim community or whatever.
    Richard

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  • 178. At 4:00pm on 14 Dec 2009, TerryS wrote:


    At the top of this blog is the question: "Should the ban on hunting with dogs be lifted?"

    My answer is most definitely NO. Not only should the ban remain in place, but it should be strengthened to remove all loopholes and allow easier prosecution of those who are currently ignoring or abusing the law.

    I thought the item on 'The One Show' was very biased in support of hunting, especially in the way in which it portrayed this issue as one of 'town versus country'. I was born, brought up and live in foxhunting country and I detest hunting. As a child/teenager/youth I was ambivalent towards hunting (it was just a local feature that most people didn't seriously question), but the more I learnt of both the hunt and their quarry the more I came to realise that it is a vile, cruel and unnecessary anachronism. Anyone who believes that it has anything to do with 'controlling fox numbers' is badly deluded - hunting is totally ineffective in this respect, as was confirmed to me by some (non-hunting) farmers I knew. However, for those (relatively few) foxes that are killed by hunts, hunting is very cruel - especially the autumn cub hunting and the use of terriers to dig out those foxes that find a safe haven underground if the hunt servants failed to block a bolt hole the night before.

    I live in a marginal (West Country) Lib Dem/Conservative constituency and although I have no great love for either the Lib Dems or the present Labour government there is no way I could bring myself to vote Conservative in the knowledge that my vote would help to legalise the cruel barbarity of fox, deer and hare hunting and hare coursing. Years ago I used to vote Conservative but switched to the Lib Dems primarily because I wanted to see an end to hunting and my then Conservative MP was not even prepared to listen to any arguments against hunting. The sitting Conservative MP was defeated and the Lib Dems have held the seat with a narrow majority ever since. It is the Conservative's support for hunting that makes them the 'Nasty Party' as far as I am concerned. I really cannot understand why David Cameron wants to associate his supposedly modernised and progressive form of Conservatism with the out-dated cruelty of hunting and coursing. There are even some misguided people who want to bring back otter hunting!

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  • 179. At 6:46pm on 18 Dec 2009, rkeen wrote:

    Wish I had seen this last week!

    For all those who support the hunting act, PLEASE get your names on the R.O.A.R. (Register Online Against Repeal),an 'all party' list at: www.campaignfordecency.org.uk



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