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Robbo Robson | 12:19 UK time, Thursday, 15 October 2009

It's been a weird one for England fans. We've got used to grabbing the early bar-stool and watching our knuckles turn white on the pint glass as we pray for divine intervention to see us through to another long summer - or not as the case may be.

Instead you've had the odd spectacle of England players and pundits muttering wryly about the prospects of Mad-Dog Maradona's Argentine beefcakes falling short and the first World Cup since 1970 being shorn of the lankest hairdos in sport.

They got through, though - some other hand of God pushing the little man's ramshackle squad to a 1-0 in Uruguay.

We have had Wazza suggesting that Portugal - and in particular the little winker - might not make it either.
Cristiano Ronaldo and Wayne RooneyRooney and Ronaldo - best of enemies
There is also talk, terrible tournament-rigging talk, of introducing seedings to the European play-offs. Presumably this is to ensure the Gelled Tumbler's presence in South Africa. It's crass. If you're not up to qualifying direct then you get what you're given in the play-offs. Up the Irish, whoever they play.

Belarus at home didn't tell us much that we didn't already know. England are perfectly capable of playing 15 minutes of hopeless football in every game.

There wasn't much goal threat from the Belarussians which is fortunate 'cos we let them have the ball for long enough to find out. There were times when we could barely string one pass together.

Crouchy continues to be great value. He is that footballing cliché 'something different'. I'm a Crouch convert (which sounds more like some over-revealing yoga position but you get my meaning).

Becks looked like he's still got a bit to offer. He also looked like a shabby X-Men stunt double, mind. And the drooling on commentary was downright unctuous. He traps a long ball first time - 'instant control by Beckham'.

It's a football match not a beauty contest, mate! He's an international! It shouldn't be hard for him to trap a ball and pass it accurately. Although that rather suggests that Shaun Wright-Philips shouldn't be on the pitch.

ITV continue to prove there's no point in having a current England international in the pundit's seat. What do they think they're going to get from Owen Hargreaves exactly?

What we really wanted him to say was: "Oh, that Becks is past it, Barry's having a 'mare and Carrick's a right shrinking violet at international level. What they need is a tough-tackling Canadian-born German lad with a British passport to play the holding role." But of course he didn't.

Any road it's time we, the pub-frequenting true experts on English football, started putting our squads together. Check out fellow-blogger Phil McNulty's here if you haven't already.

The keepers will have to be Green and James. I'd go for Joe Hart as the third. Foster did fine on Wednesday night but once Van der Sar returns, young Ben will be back on the bench icing the latest Owen tweak and he won't be ready.

The back four'll be Johnson, Rio, Terry and Cashley for certain. After that it's a bit of a lottery but you need a bit of flexibility in there and so Wes Brown and Lescott should go. Plus Upson, unless the likes of Woodgate and King are able to pick up their beds and walk.

Midfielders sure to go are Gerrard, Lampard and Barry. The right side of midfield is looking more cluttered than a lass's wardrobe. (I urged my missus to get shot of some of her clobber this week so we can use the space for something useful like a snooker room - sure enough stuff I've not seen in years is currently being worn around the house.)

Becks will go. He was man of the match after all. Capello compared it to Obama's Nobel Peace Prize. I remember that Judi Dench getting an Oscar for appearing in a film for about 10 minutes 'n all. Barmy.

Then it's a toss-up between the identikit speed merchants, Lennon and SWP. Tiny, lightning-fast and more likely to find a cul-de-sac than my useless flaming sat-nav, which has one of them soothing women's voices that just makes you want to screech at it. I swear it once said to me, in that emotionless purr, "Why don't you just wind down the window and ask somebody?"

Me, I'd go for Lennon. Wright-Philips is the only player I know who can have dips in form during a match. If Joe Cole gets fit he has to go, too.

So you're left with another holding midfielder and someone who can play left side. I wouldn't pick Downing. He's done nowt since he left the Boro. Yes, I know he's been injured, but that's no excuse. Let's face it, there are more cultured left feet in your average chiropodist's than you'll find pulling on a boot for England.

Milner looks a good bet. Then it's Carrick or Hargreaves. I'd like the latter. He can do a job at right-back too and Carrick is too often a paper swan - he looks elegant enough but there's not much there and he floats out of the picture all too easily.

Up front, that Rooney fella might just go - crikey he looked a good player on Saturday night. Then Defoe and Crouch. After that it's anyone's guess.
Emile HeskeyWill he or won't he?
Heskey's obviously a good lad to play with, but you do foresee a moment when it's a minute to go, he's clean through with just the keeper to beat and the lad plummets to the earth like Devon Loch and we all ask where the hell Carlton Cole's got to.

Agbonlahor has that combination of frightening pace and dodgy first touch, but he's a great worker. And Walcott can look like either Sea The Stars or a donkey tethered to a post.

But my mind is made up:
Green, James, Hart; Johnson, Brown, Rio, JT, Upson, Lescott, Cashley; Gerrard, Lampard, Barry, Beckham, J. Cole, Lennon, Hargreaves, Milner; Rooney, Heskey, Crouch, Defoe, Walcott.

Now lads, keep your heads down, your wives quiet and your metatarsals wrapped in cotton wool. Especially you Wazza. Especially you.

Comments

  • 1. At 1:10pm on 15 Oct 2009, Starburst_995 wrote:

    First comment?

    Onto serious matters though ...who's going to be keeping up the England tradition of breaking a metertarsal and half recovering just in time to fly out and ruin everything because they're not fully match fit?

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  • 2. At 1:23pm on 15 Oct 2009, Adie wrote:

    Robbo, you've pretty much just copied what Phil said. Well, I tell a lie, you copied and then pasted it, by the look of it.

    Ctrl + C > Ctrl + V?

    Good work.

    Anyway. I agree with everything both you and Phil say and I think the vast majority of the England fans would too. Beckham will go, and that's probably the only contentious issue among the current squad.

    The only other 3 players which aren't currently involved which have a strong shout are Owen Hargreaves, Michael Owen and Joe Cole.

    We shall see, as they say...

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  • 3. At 1:24pm on 15 Oct 2009, adampsb wrote:

    Gareth Barry (hopefully) will be the metatarsal victim alongside heskey

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  • 4. At 1:25pm on 15 Oct 2009, boringoldblue wrote:

    Wow, I agree with the entire team I think. Even Crouch (and I'm NOT a fan).

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  • 5. At 1:28pm on 15 Oct 2009, tomefccam wrote:

    whats wrong with Owen, take him. If argentina take Palermo, Italy Gattusi, Spain Senner, Brazil Gilberto Silva, Ukraine Shevchenko then why can't we take owen. he's mustard

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  • 6. At 1:28pm on 15 Oct 2009, tomefccam wrote:

    take owen, he's mustard

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  • 7. At 1:29pm on 15 Oct 2009, adampsb wrote:

    Bit diffuclt - might have been better off talking about managerial nighmares in Leagues 1&2 with Tranmere, Wycombe, Aldershot, Rotherham and Notts County all losing managers (Waddock has gone to Wycombe) - what price the others all play musical chairs with Steve Coppell and John Barnes ends up without a chair.

    As for teh actual blog

    What we really wanted him to say was: "Oh, Barry's having a 'mare and Carrick's a right shrinking violet at international level. What they need is a tough-tackling Canadian-born German lad with a British passport to play the holding role." But of course he didn't

    Should have though because it's true

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  • 8. At 1:29pm on 15 Oct 2009, TommyO wrote:

    Not sure how Hargreaves can make anyone's list when he hasn't kicked a ball in anger in so long

    but then seeing as you've picked 23 players Robbo perhaps you can go back and omit him?


    I'm looking forward to some plum suggesting Gary Neville should make the final squad, btw....

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  • 9. At 1:30pm on 15 Oct 2009, adampsb wrote:

    Well suggested Mr Plum (I mean Onion)

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  • 10. At 1:32pm on 15 Oct 2009, jacksofbuxton wrote:

    Quite right to point out the farce of seedings for the play-offs.Anything that Blatter comes up with is always ridiculous.How he still has a job goodness only knows.I'm sure fifa will come up with something new if Slovakia,Eire etc come through.Maybe a gel quota?

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  • 11. At 1:35pm on 15 Oct 2009, adampsb wrote:

    It would be amusing to see the following play-off winners Slovenia, Ukraine, Ireland and Bosnia.

    Blatter would have a heart attack if that happened, No Ronaldo, Arshavin, Henry, Benzema etc. Would be absolutely fantastic

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  • 12. At 1:36pm on 15 Oct 2009, crash wrote:

    I'd rather take Richards and Cole then Brown and Heskey myself. Otherwise fine.

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  • 13. At 1:36pm on 15 Oct 2009, TommyO wrote:

    This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the House Rules.

  • 14. At 1:38pm on 15 Oct 2009, Holloway2Holland wrote:

    Here we go again, another great Robbo blog, let the games begin...

    Seeing as this is one of the first of the posts, I think it might be safe for me to stay on topic. I haven't read PM's blog because I feel there is no way you can have any kind of discussion due to the tediously long moderation process.
    Any road, (that's my best/only northern patter) I think your squad looks about right, maybe add Jagielka (if fit) I rate him higher than some of the ones in there, and how many more goals, or what exactly does Darren Bent have to do to get a chance?
    O.K. I'll be back to check later how hard I''ve been slated.
    Cheers lads, H2H.

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  • 15. At 1:40pm on 15 Oct 2009, MrZeus wrote:

    "Not sure how Hargreaves can make anyone's list when he hasn't kicked a ball in anger in so long"?!

    Maybe because in both of the last 2 World Cups he was our best player?

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  • 16. At 1:42pm on 15 Oct 2009, oldstafford wrote:

    IF Hargreaves is fit and has games under his belt then in my opinion he has to go.
    Cole over Heskey any day and please don’t let the spoon foot that is Downing be fit for selection... oh and Gary Neville for the firing squad btw...

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  • 17. At 1:43pm on 15 Oct 2009, benz2000 wrote:

    Good squad, you talk sense. Not 100% on Hargreave's - was always a fan but absence can make the heart grow fonder and it's bizzare that he's getting the big thumbs-up everywhere despite not playing for so long that i can't remember. See your point about Heskey but I wouldn't have C Cole down as the most clinical finisher either. He's playing well at the moment but not sure if it'll continue through to the summer.

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  • 18. At 1:44pm on 15 Oct 2009, adampsb wrote:

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  • 19. At 1:48pm on 15 Oct 2009, RedJasK wrote:

    DrZeus - Maybe Hargreaves was our best player in 2006, but wasnt it Nicky Butt in 2002 (according to Pele!)

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  • 20. At 1:49pm on 15 Oct 2009, Wireless Enthusiast wrote:

    Another "expert" not even mentioning Bridge despite the fact he's been one of City's best players this season.

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  • 21. At 1:51pm on 15 Oct 2009, Holloway2Holland wrote:

    6. At 1:28pm on 15 Oct 2009, tomefccam wrote
    take owen, he's mustard

    Sorry mate, but what does that mean? Does he make make sausages taste better?
    I,m not trying to be a wum, (well maybe a little) but I just don't get the analogy.
    Darn it, off topic already.

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  • 22. At 1:53pm on 15 Oct 2009, TommyO wrote:


    15. At 1:40pm on 15 Oct 2009, MrZeus wrote:

    "Not sure how Hargreaves can make anyone's list when he hasn't kicked a ball in anger in so long"?!

    Maybe because in both of the last 2 World Cups he was our best player?


    1) You don't pick a team based upon what happened 4 or 8 years ago

    2) Best England player at WC 2006 ? - talk about damning with faint praise

    3) He played 1 full match at WC 2002 and then was injured/subbed after 20 mins in the 2nd and missed the rest of the tournament

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  • 23. At 1:53pm on 15 Oct 2009, RJC wrote:

    I think Heskey and Beckham should have a nice seat all laid out for them....at home in front of the tv. We've all heard the commentators/pundits with their typical lines from a script ("Beckham is Englands best passer and no-one delivers the crosses he does" or anything along those lines and "with Heskey up front it gives another dimension to the team" also known as route 1, Blackburn-esque football). I was actually shocked when I heard Becks was Man of the Match, my Dad and I just stared at each other in amazement. Anyone think Mr. Bruce got a nice little backhander for that?

    As for the squad, I think they should go with:

    Gks: James, Green and Hart (Even though I'm a United fan, I do agree that Foster will be on the bench for most of the season. Perhaps the odd FA cup or Carling cup game)

    Def: Johnson, Richards, Cole, Lescott (I don't like him to be honest, but he can go to left back if needed), Terry, Ferdinand, Upson. Possibly Cahill if they wanted to take 8.

    Mid: J. Cole, Gerrard, Lampard, Barry, Carrick/Hargreaves (as long as Hargreaves is fit, he's my number one choice for holding midfield), Walcott, Lennon, Milner. Don't rate SWP, but he would be my back-up incase one of the last 3 are injured and then Young after him.

    Str: Rooney, Defoe, Crouch and then either Bent, Cole or Agbonlahor, whoever is scoring the goals at the time.

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  • 24. At 1:54pm on 15 Oct 2009, Whiteoutloud wrote:

    Hargreaves would have to play regularly from now on to have any chance of making the plane. Capello has never seen him play so his inclusion is difficult to justify. When Carrick plays well, he is excellent, but I think he lacks self confidence at International level. I'd take Jenus.
    Good shout on Milner, he showed his versatility last night and even though the oppostion was poor, they didn't get past him. He's definately jumped ahead of his colleague Ashley Young.
    As for keepers, I would rather take the experience of Paul Robinson than Joe Hart.

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  • 25. At 1:54pm on 15 Oct 2009, Jimmy wrote:

    8. At 1:29pm on 15 Oct 2009, TommyOnion wrote:
    Not sure how Hargreaves can make anyone's list when he hasn't kicked a ball in anger in so long

    but then seeing as you've picked 23 players Robbo perhaps you can go back and omit him?


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    a world cup squad IS 23 players, not 22 - so Robbo has the correct number.

    good idea about G Neville as well - just needs to get more games under his belt.

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  • 26. At 1:56pm on 15 Oct 2009, TommyO wrote:

    18. At 1:44pm on 15 Oct 2009, adampsb wrote:
    I also think Tommy's suggestion for right-back was excellent if a trifle unexpected but it takes a brave man to stick his head above the parapet and suggest Glenn Johnson be replaced by the arch-enemy
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    Grow up, adam.

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  • 27. At 1:57pm on 15 Oct 2009, Neko Bazu wrote:

    "Robbo, you've pretty much just copied what Phil said. Well, I tell a lie, you copied and then pasted it, by the look of it."

    Except that, for instance, Robbo thinks Beckham should go and Phil doesn't? At least read it properly if you're hell-bent on criticising ;)

    Can't disagree with most of Robbo's selections, though I think it's a little early to commit to anything - there's a whole season of form and injuries to come yet! I'm not totally sold on Walcott though - I think he and Agbonlahor (and debatably Cole) are on equal standing presently, and have some time to make a case for their inclusion. Not convinced by Lescott at the moment either; I suspect he'll end up falling by the wayside as another contender emerges over the next few months.

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  • 28. At 1:58pm on 15 Oct 2009, RedBlueArmy92 wrote:

    Well Robbo... i do agree with Adams sentiment that a blog on the managerial roundabout of the lower leagues would have been better... But apprantly the World Cup has precedence???

    As it was though, a good read mush, some people have drawn a comparrison with McNulty... well i challenge anyone to pick thier 22 (or 23 ay robbo!) and make it drastically different...

    If Hargreaves and Cole are fit then they are an absolute must... But Owen i think not, he may prove me wrong... As for the chap who said Hargreaves isn't a worry as he was our best in the last 2 world cups... Well linekar had a blinder in italia 90, but i don't think he'll be making a call up... Time will tell with Hargreaves, but i do get the feeling that the Jack Russel like play of Joey Cole will defo be in SA... He'll come very good for chelsea this season, he has things to prove that lad...

    As for Strikers... i give up... (is it too late to clone Rooney??)

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  • 29. At 1:58pm on 15 Oct 2009, Tom1987Efc wrote:

    What about Baines at left back? Everyone complains about Bridge not being up to the mark...Baines can also fit in at left midfield if needed, and he can be another free kick / penalty taker!

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  • 30. At 1:59pm on 15 Oct 2009, adampsb wrote:

    I see number 26 has had a humour bypass and moderated me for mentioning that he suggested Gary Neville - can't hide the evidence old son....You are a closet.

    Then it may have been for comments about Fifa..heaven forbid it was because I suggested Fabio drop Heskey for Bent.

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  • 31. At 1:59pm on 15 Oct 2009, TommyO wrote:

    25. At 1:54pm on 15 Oct 2009, Jimmy wrote:

    a world cup squad IS 23 players, not 22 - so Robbo has the correct number.


    My bad, when i think of World Cup squads my mind is filled with the words of the 1982 World Cup squad's classic tune 'This Time' and the immortal line "we are Ron's 22, we have a dream, we hope you're dreaming it too"

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  • 32. At 2:01pm on 15 Oct 2009, ndg1984 wrote:

    Agreed, the commentators do have the tendency to go a wee bit o.t.t with Becks but he has to go to South Africa.
    He does give us something different on the right flank (he has an end product unlike all the others that can play in the same position).

    I absolutely agree about the play-off argument....if you cant qualify automatically then its down to the luck of the draw. Watch Portugal get a soft draw and do us on pens in the finals!!!

    Just one more thing.....Did anyone hear Stan Collymore on the radio last night???? He claims he isnt a David Beckham 'hater'. However, I find this hard to believe. He constantly berates and hypocritically states that David Beckham is more interested in fame that football.......Coming from the man that had a cameo appearance in Basic Instinct 2.....sounds like sour grapes to me Stan!

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  • 33. At 2:01pm on 15 Oct 2009, JPMcCoy wrote:

    Carrick...I would not have him in the England or United team for that matter, when you are losing and need somebody to grab the game by the scruff of the neck Carrick is never in sight. I personally think Beckham is too old to start but on the bench maybe, but, he can stand there and do Carrick's job.
    Hargreaves if he is fit I think would go, versatility alone gives him an edge, but little point discussing this as a relapse could easily be on the cards.

    Beckham to go and possibly Carlton Cole and out of a bad bunch Crouch.

    I would like to add if Owen was fit and playing he would easily be on the plane.....he wont be though!

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  • 34. At 2:02pm on 15 Oct 2009, adampsb wrote:

    #24 whiteoutloud -

    Jermain Jenas!!!! instead of Beckham if that isn't pure wummery it takes the biscuit

    Guranteed to get some sort of response though

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  • 35. At 2:03pm on 15 Oct 2009, TommyO wrote:

    30. At 1:59pm on 15 Oct 2009, adampsb wrote:

    I see number 26 has had a humour bypass and moderated me


    guess again, brainiac !

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  • 36. At 2:06pm on 15 Oct 2009, adampsb wrote:

    My picks for the play-offs - Slovenia, Ukraine, Bosnia and Republic of Ireland to go to South Africa for the World cup

    The gelled tumbler to stay in the Paris Hilton (the LA one)

    France, Portugal, Greece and Russia (beach, beach, beach, labour camp in Siberia)

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  • 37. At 2:07pm on 15 Oct 2009, TommyO wrote:

    This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the House Rules.

  • 38. At 2:08pm on 15 Oct 2009, Adie wrote:

    27 "Except that, for instance, Robbo thinks Beckham should go and Phil doesn't? At least read it properly if you're hell-bent on criticising ;)"

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    I was talking about the blog as a whole rather than specifically the squad selection.

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  • 39. At 2:09pm on 15 Oct 2009, adampsb wrote:

    #35 - guess again, brainiac !

    OK.......You have suddenly seen the light converted to being a Man Utd fan and as this epiphany hit you suggested Gary Neville play for England again and then as the feeling wore off was worried that your mates would see it and have sought to erase all traces of ever having suggested it.

    Or I got modded for implying things about certaim mamberts of the FIFA executive

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  • 40. At 2:10pm on 15 Oct 2009, Whiteoutloud wrote:

    Adampsb
    I meant instead of Carrick or Hargreaves, not Beckham.

    Mind you, who in their right mind would suggest taking Gary "Up the Unions" Neville. He's old, slow and not playing.

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  • 41. At 2:10pm on 15 Oct 2009, Sam wrote:

    Id take Darren Bent is in great form and a proven goalscorer. What do you make of Darren Bent, robbo? surely deserves his chance

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  • 42. At 2:10pm on 15 Oct 2009, GazUtd wrote:


    Good to see Robbo hasn't forgotten about the ridiculous predicament the Irish will be placed it. Although it will be a tad easier when we lose to someone good rather than one of the 'rubbish' teams. Which we would have done. After leading for 85 minutes in both matches.

    If only Trappatoni would tell the players that the pitch is actually a pub then maybe they would all hang around until the end. Then a big security guard would have to come along telling them to 'Move along outside please' while they tried desparately to chat up the last remaining woman.

    Anyway I posted my 2 England teams on the last blog, but what the heck, here they are again...

    Here are my two England teams.

    Firstly is my team that as an Irishman and speaking for the rest of the world that I would like to see (ie the one that will be useless)...

    Keeper - Any of Foster / Robinson / James, don't care as their all rubbish.

    Full Backs - Gary Neville and Glenn Johnson. PLEASE!! (You can have bridge if you want, he's almost as rubbish)

    Centre Backs - Rio if he's in one of his moods. Otherwise Lescott and Wes Brown

    Midfield - A middle four of SWP, St. Steven, Carrick and Barry will do nicely. Nicely for everyone else.

    Forwards - Crouch and Heskey! Woo! Brilliant. No goals, not even a header won!!


    Team 2 - The one you should pick if you want to be in with a realistic chance (which you won't be, but still, it's nice to dream)

    Keeper - Steve Harper. Controversial I know but look at your options, they are all rubbish and Harper plays for the Geordies so plenty of practice and he worked with Shay Given for years which is bound to have helped him.

    Full Backs - A. Cole (disgusts me to pick him for anything) and Wes Brown. Yes I know I said Brown should be in the rubbish centre back 11 but that's cos he's rubbish at centre back. He's actually useful enough at right back.

    Centre Backs - Rio as long as he's not in one of his moods and Terry. But here is probably your strongest position as either Cahill or Upson could fill in.

    Midfield - Beckham (come on he may be a pain in the proverbial but you all know deep down that he is your best option on the right), Lampard (you have to hand it to him), Hargreaves if fit because he is absolutely fantastic when playing at the top of his game and Aaron Lennon (been mightily impressed with him recently)

    Forwards - Rooney (anyone who thinks otherwise is clinically insane) and I would actually put Walcott with him with Defoe as understudy.

    So there you go. Not that any of it matters. Cos you're not going to win. I hope! ;)

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  • 43. At 2:11pm on 15 Oct 2009, Holloway2Holland wrote:

    When will we know the outcome from the fix, er sorry draw for the playoffs?

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  • 44. At 2:14pm on 15 Oct 2009, oldstafford wrote:

    Moderated for the first time for saying that if Hargreaves is fit and he has games under his belt he has to go, Cole over Heskey any day and hopefully the spoon foot that is Downing will not be fit for selection. Oh yeah and Gary Neville must NOT whatsoever AT ALL make any firing squad..ahem (a pun, albeit rubbish one, on a previous post)! Come on guys quit the complaining unless it’s blatantly offensive.

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  • 45. At 2:15pm on 15 Oct 2009, Spitfire wrote:

    Walcot compared to 'Sea The Stars'!

    Does that mean he is more valuable than Cristiano Ronaldo (after he retires and stands at the stud)?

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  • 46. At 2:16pm on 15 Oct 2009, GazUtd wrote:


    Playoff draw is on Monday H2H.

    And then probably Tuesday if it didn't suit Sepp.

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  • 47. At 2:17pm on 15 Oct 2009, Why don't we just sign that Lionel Messi? He's supposed to be alright... wrote:

    I wouldn't take Joe Hart...not that there's many other keepers admittedly. But anyone other than Joe Hart.

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  • 48. At 2:17pm on 15 Oct 2009, bristolian_londoner wrote:

    First off, all teams at the World Cup have 23 man squads - they increased it from 22 a few years back (2002 World Cup was the first time I think) so anyone mocking Robbo for including 23 players is just showing they're not on the ball themselves.

    Secondly I think people like Hargreaves and Joe Cole are reasonable calls. True they've not played for a while but it's still 8 months to the tournament so any squad selection now is going to involve a degree of speculation as we won't know who's going to be in form or fit next Summer. There's no doubt Hargreaves and Cole have been amongst our best players back when they were fit last time so it's fair enough to predict they will be again if they get back to form and fitness. Personally I expect both to at least be in the larger provisional squad for the friendlies before the tournament (assuming Capello goes down that route) and, all being equal, I reckon they'll be in the squad itself - it's hardly as if there's a lack of surplus of defensive midfielders or left-sided attacking players I'd certainly hope both were in there.

    Robbo's squad isn't too dissimilar to the one I'd pick, although I think I'd count Walcott as a right-winger and take one less midfielder (Beckham, good though he was last night, as I don't think he's still good enough to have a major impact against the better sides in the tournament) and have a bit of extra defensive cover - maybe Jagielka for versatility assuming he gets fit and back to his best in time.

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  • 49. At 2:18pm on 15 Oct 2009, adampsb wrote:

    Mind you, who in their right mind would suggest taking Gary "Up the Unions" Neville. He's old, slow and not playing.

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    Depends if delibrately winding everyone up about classes as being in their right mind...

    Got to have Beckham in though as England seemed to lose their way for long periods before he came on.

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  • 50. At 2:18pm on 15 Oct 2009, nate_89 wrote:

    Holloway2Holland.... Monday mate!

    TommyOnion...... i love gary neville, he is the reason i get ou of bed in the morning. But your right he wont go to SA.

    Robbo great blog i liked the way only to players were referenced with nicknames JT and cashley! perfect :)

    If we get lucky and stay fit we have a great chance. of making the quarters and going to pens! only this year we have an italian....... so hopefully good pens ..

    cheers guys

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  • 51. At 2:18pm on 15 Oct 2009, HantsCricketFan wrote:

    I actually like the idea of taking Beckham as I can genuinely see him being a difference maker as an impact sub. Becks knows this is his last chance of every winning anything on a World stage, he won't even make it to Poland in 2012. He will play his heart out when he's on the field and I'd much rather see Beckham step up for a freekick in the 90th min than Frank "I'll blast it off the wall" Lampard.

    I'd like to see us take a surprise element to SA next year. A player who teams won't be able to anticipate. Jack Wilshere seems like the sort of person who could do this and as a cert to be an England player for the next generation it might do him some good to be around the current squad during a World Cup. I'd have Crouch, Defoe and Rooney up front knowing that Walcott can play RW but play up front if necessary.

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  • 52. At 2:20pm on 15 Oct 2009, ndg1984 wrote:

    I think we should take Shilton and Paul Parker. They worked the free kick against the Germans in the semi's in Italia 90 a treat ........... oh, hang on a minute...that went into our own net. Ah, back to the drawing board.

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  • 53. At 2:20pm on 15 Oct 2009, bristolian_londoner wrote:

    * as if there's a surplus, sorry. What I wrote made no sense.

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  • 54. At 2:20pm on 15 Oct 2009, King of the Air wrote:

    There still appear to be a number of observers here who think they know better than Capello - wake up, you don't.
    Barry is first choice in the 'holding' role because he can defend and pass it, Capello can see this. Likewise Heskey comes in for criticism but he actually fits in to the style of play and formation that Capello has identified as the best way to get the best out of the team (and giving space to the most creative player - Rooney). I'm no great fan of Heskey and his non-scoring performances but if its necessary to play him so that we can get Rooney into the game then so be it.
    Crouch can finish and is a decent player but the build up with him in the side is just so laboured that the other attackers are never going to get in the game. Impact sub for Crouchy.
    Bent ? just a runner into space and there is no space behind international defences. Not worth selecting.
    SWP - agree, not enough end product when he gets into promising positions. Walcott will be the best option there if fully fit.

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  • 55. At 2:21pm on 15 Oct 2009, TommyO wrote:

    50. At 2:18pm on 15 Oct 2009, nate_89 wrote:
    i love gary neville, he is the reason i get ou of bed in the morning.


    adam loves him more! he's even got the teeange boy moustache to match !

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  • 56. At 2:21pm on 15 Oct 2009, adampsb wrote:

    46. At 2:16pm on 15 Oct 2009, GazUtd wrote:

    Playoff draw is on Monday H2H.

    And then probably Tuesday if it didn't suit Sepp.
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    And then after the play-offs if they don't go his way.

    Why doesn't he just issue a press release and say these are the teams I want at the World Cup. well easy no inconvenient qualifying tournaments, upsets or play-offs to worry about.

    Bristolian - Beckham will always make an impact - SWP will be making the tea

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  • 57. At 2:22pm on 15 Oct 2009, GazUtd wrote:


    Seeing as JDR will probably be on telling Robbo 'well done' for not mentioning the Blue Bell, I may as well take up the complaining mantle about one thing...


    STOP MENTIONING THE HAND OF GOD AT EVERY OPPORTUNITY

    ;)

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  • 58. At 2:23pm on 15 Oct 2009, GazUtd wrote:

    At 2:20pm on 15 Oct 2009, bristolian_londoner wrote:
    * as if there's a surplus, sorry. What I wrote made no sense.

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    You'll fit in well here.

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  • 59. At 2:24pm on 15 Oct 2009, Holloway2Holland wrote:

    Cheers Nate & Gaz, I'm glad it'll be clear by Wednesday

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  • 60. At 2:25pm on 15 Oct 2009, Jimmy wrote:

    31. At 1:59pm on 15 Oct 2009, TommyOnion wrote:
    25. At 1:54pm on 15 Oct 2009, Jimmy wrote:

    a world cup squad IS 23 players, not 22 - so Robbo has the correct number.


    My bad, when i think of World Cup squads my mind is filled with the words of the 1982 World Cup squad's classic tune 'This Time' and the immortal line "we are Ron's 22, we have a dream, we hope you're dreaming it too"


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    fair play - cant remember that one to tell the truth - given i was only born just before the World Cup final of that year, i think i can probably be excused. Apparently i was due on the day of the final, my dad said he would record it if England got to the final - my birth obviously!!

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  • 61. At 2:25pm on 15 Oct 2009, ndg1984 wrote:

    The suggestion of Darren Bent getting the opportunity to collect another England cap sends shudders down my spine. He runs around like he's getting attacked by a swarm of bee's. He does find the net every now and again when he connects with his sweet spot (shin pad)..

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  • 62. At 2:26pm on 15 Oct 2009, Whiteoutloud wrote:

    BentleyFrom40andLennonfrom2 wrote:
    "I'd like to see us take a surprise element to SA next year. A player who teams won't be able to anticipate."
    A bit like Sven taking a 17 year old Walcott to Germany and then not playing him or giving him a chance even after we lost Owen. It is just wasting a position that could be filled by another player more deserving.

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  • 63. At 2:28pm on 15 Oct 2009, TommyO wrote:

    62. At 2:26pm on 15 Oct 2009, Whiteoutloud wrote:
    A bit like Sven taking a 17 year old Walcott to Germany and then not playing him or giving him a chance even after we lost Owen. It is just wasting a position that could be filled by another player more deserving.


    That was criminal by Sven

    likewise Hoddle not taking Gascgoine in 98 but Rob Lee making the squad

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  • 64. At 2:30pm on 15 Oct 2009, adampsb wrote:

    #55 - no tommy I shave daily so I don't end up with the Beard of Beckham.

    #54 secondChoice - that is exactly what Barry is Second Choice. If Hargreaves had been fit when Capello took over GB would not be in the team.

    Some teams at international level do defend quite high up the pitch and will also commit a lot of men forward chasing the game and that could leave space for someone like Bent or Owen to exploit

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  • 65. At 2:30pm on 15 Oct 2009, Rabster wrote:

    Why is it wrong to "seed" the WC qualifiers when every other major tournament does the same? Were the group stages not 'seeded?' I expect the finals will be 'seeded' (odd word) or do you expect an opening group of England, Brazil, Spain and Argentina? England could pick 500 players for their squad, they ain't gonna win...

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  • 66. At 2:32pm on 15 Oct 2009, TrotterUSA wrote:

    Beckham, Lampard, Terry, Cashley have to be there. Carrick has to find his form. Hargreaves and Joe Cole have to prove their fitness. Heskey should book a fortnight at Pontins. SWP is a danger to Peter Crouch's knee caps. Johnson will be horribly exposed against the world's best.

    However, it's nine months away! So much can change, Michael Owen might rediscover a yard of pace, Stevie G might spill a yard of ale on his dodgy groin, Barry might have laser eye surgery and turn his game around. What I'm getting at, obviously, is that all these doubts, imponderables and uncertainties leave the door wide open for Cahill, Davies and Taylor. Of course nobody will take notice until we put three past Man U at OT this weekend!

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  • 67. At 2:32pm on 15 Oct 2009, GazUtd wrote:


    TommyO I never knew that Rob Lee made the England World Cup squad. I always knew that Hoddle was a complete weirdo but that has just confirmed it.

    If he could make it in 98 you may as well bring along Titus or see if Lucas can get a passport in time for next year.

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  • 68. At 2:34pm on 15 Oct 2009, GazUtd wrote:

    At 2:32pm on 15 Oct 2009, TrotterUSA wrote:

    Of course nobody will take notice until we put three past Man U at OT this weekend!

    ----

    What were you drinking last nite Trotter?

    I want some.

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  • 69. At 2:34pm on 15 Oct 2009, Holloway2Holland wrote:

    65 It's the "timing" of the decision to announce the seeding that is wrong.

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  • 70. At 2:34pm on 15 Oct 2009, Y-I-1892man wrote:

    as usual Robbo,mint!the squad is pretty straight forward I guess BUT your quote:
    Plus Upson, unless the likes of Woodgate and King are able to pick up their beds and walk
    is priceless!!
    Hargreaves and Owen should be left at home where they belong!hope J.Cole can get and stay fit though,he´s a real livewire and needed

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  • 71. At 2:35pm on 15 Oct 2009, RedBlueArmy92 wrote:

    Rab...
    The teams in to qualification, were already seeded when they were put in to thier groups... They were unable to qualify from those groups and are now at a KO stage... Maybe all other tournaments etc. are seeded but i think in this instance it just doesnt seem fair... And it gives the wrong message to the "big" teams... And to be fair, if we could play all 500 players at once, we'd have a chance... Otherwise a squad of 500 is a disadvantage really...

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  • 72. At 2:36pm on 15 Oct 2009, TommyO wrote:

    65. At 2:30pm on 15 Oct 2009, Rabster wrote:

    Why is it wrong to "seed" the WC qualifiers when every other major tournament does the same?



    It's the doing of it 2 weeks before the draw is to be made when there was a realisation of how many 'big' sides were likely to be in the playoffs that stinks.

    If they'd said it would be seeded from the off there'd be no problem.

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  • 73. At 2:36pm on 15 Oct 2009, nate_89 wrote:

    TommyOnion........ Are you suggesting the teenage boy moustache is a bad thing? haha

    France, Portugal, Russia, Ireland, Slovenia, Greece, Bosnia and Ukraine are in the playoffs. the seeded teams will be the top four in the FIFA rankings, so France, Portugal and Russian are definate. Then im not sure who it would be out of Ireland, Greece or Ukraine? Bare in mind Ireland are the only team out of these 8 who didn't lose a game in qualifying. and drew with the current world champions twice!

    yet due to sepp blatter and his ever thinking mind they may miss out!

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  • 74. At 2:38pm on 15 Oct 2009, Adie wrote:

    It'd be a crime if ROI miss out

    I've been very impressed by them.

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  • 75. At 2:39pm on 15 Oct 2009, King of the Air wrote:

    #64
    There is little point in discussing what impact Hargreaves would have had, he has been out of the Man U side so long. Barry created the first goal last night with one of the best passes of the night. Hargreaves has quality but can't pass it like that.

    Bent - no way, opposing defences will just laugh. Owen possibly if he can prove his fitness.

    I should have added that Joe Cole is also well worth a place if fit.

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  • 76. At 2:40pm on 15 Oct 2009, Terry Toil wrote:

    I pray Hargreaves is fit for the tournament. You need somebody to win the ball back. England will be 'long balling' most of the time, thus losing possession. Milner looked great when he came on, never really noticed him before.

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  • 77. At 2:40pm on 15 Oct 2009, TrotterUSA wrote:

    Gaz, not a drop! Martin Luther King and his famous "I have a dream" speech comes to mind when I ponder this weekend's fixture! Lovely thing about it is we have nothing to lose, no expectations, no pressure and if Man U spank us 5-0, it's only normal!

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  • 78. At 2:43pm on 15 Oct 2009, nate_89 wrote:

    Hi all,

    answer to my own question but to let you all know.

    on the 2nd September the world rankings for the 8 teams were,

    Russia - 6th
    France - 10th
    Greece - 12th
    portugal - 17th
    ukraine - 25th
    ireland - 38th
    bosnia - 46th
    Sloveina - 54th

    Just a note, Ireland are ranked below;
    Scotland - 30th
    Northern Ireland - 31st
    Gabon - 35th

    Are FIFA rankings a joke?

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  • 79. At 2:45pm on 15 Oct 2009, GazUtd wrote:


    Not really Nate. Remember we had Steve "I'm the Gaffer" Staunton in charge for a while so we are lucky we aren't ranked below Area 51.

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  • 80. At 2:48pm on 15 Oct 2009, King of the Air wrote:

    #78
    Are FIFA rankings a joke?

    No they are based on results - what else can you base them on ?

    Fairly typical that FIFA should seed teams though - what else did anyone expect?

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  • 81. At 2:49pm on 15 Oct 2009, adampsb wrote:

    All you have is a dream...More Than A Dream ... A nightmare as you're going to get thrashed.

    That aside Rabster seeding is just cheating for big teams who are scared of playing each other. Seedding in football should be abolished as it would allow us to have groups like Argentina, Germany, Italy & Ivory Coast which would be very interesting and other groups like England, North Korea, New Zealand and Gabon (which would be easy).

    Imagine teh World Cup Final Homduras against North Korea - that would be well funny but woudl never happen due to the way the draws are structured although Blatter & Warners health wouldn't take it either

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  • 82. At 2:53pm on 15 Oct 2009, mufc1991 wrote:

    I agree with just about everything you've wrote in this blog, from your annoyance to the commentator's cooing over beckham, wright-phillips ineptitude at international level, and finally your world cup squad.
    There have been comments made about the similarities between yours and phils team, but choices you have made such as including hargreaves and j.cole are sound ones.
    I think capello needs a third dimension that cole could bring from the bench, and if hargreaves retains form and fitness he could also be a major factor in the QF/SF/F crunch games against the bigger teams.
    Hopefully mr.capello will have a look at this blog, and think along the same lines when it comes to selecting his final 23.

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  • 83. At 2:54pm on 15 Oct 2009, King of the Air wrote:

    Would those advocating non seeded groups also like to see CL groups consisting of say..

    Real Madrid
    Man Utd
    Inter Milan
    Bayern

    Probably not if you support one of those clubs !

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  • 84. At 2:56pm on 15 Oct 2009, TrotterUSA wrote:

    Adam, high hopes and low expectations here, that's what makes it so enjoyable, league Champs away, in front of 75,000, what could be better? A nightmare is impossible for us, you on the other hand, won't hear the end of it for 7 months if you slip up!

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  • 85. At 2:57pm on 15 Oct 2009, Holloway2Holland wrote:

    81. At 2:49pm on 15 Oct 2009, adampsb wrote:
    All you have is a dream...More Than A Dream ... A nightmare as you're going to get thrashed.
    The sayings "famous last words" & "Pride before the fall" spring to mind.
    I think you have agood chance of winning, but then again, I thought you wouldn't have too much trouble vs Sunderland

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  • 86. At 2:57pm on 15 Oct 2009, beardedshrimper wrote:

    Of course everyone will pick just about the same squad, England haven't got enough players to have that many options.

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  • 87. At 2:59pm on 15 Oct 2009, nate_89 wrote:

    GazUtd......

    I'm aware you had him in charge but the facts are you were unbeaten, im not in favour of ex players managing that soon after they have played. I find they are to friendly with the players and dont have the respect a normal manager would..

    It will be terrible if they miss out though. Given is quality, keane deserves to be there. And im not sure if superstar john o'shea could attend training if everyone had been there expect himself!

    hopefully they can draw greece, but if not they have a chance against portugal and france. Wouldn't fancy going to Moscow in november though?

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  • 88. At 2:59pm on 15 Oct 2009, adampsb wrote:

    #83 - If you put Liverpool or Chelsea in there then yes I would. And even if you didn't I suspect supporters of clubs like Benfica, Lyon and Wolfsburg would be overjoyed at having a better chance to progress to the next stage

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  • 89. At 3:01pm on 15 Oct 2009, rj1878 wrote:

    wot about phil jagielka, i hear he's due back at everton next month, surely a better bet than brown and lescott. and maybe jack rodwell to sneak in.....

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  • 90. At 3:01pm on 15 Oct 2009, adampsb wrote:

    H2H - Neither did I but Sunderland have been a lot more positive in tehir play than Sbragia's lot were last year. Can't see Meggo's bunch handing out a whupping though especially with Berbatov finally figuring out that the ball has to cross the goal-line

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  • 91. At 3:01pm on 15 Oct 2009, TrotterUSA wrote:

    H2H, more words of wisdom!

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  • 92. At 3:02pm on 15 Oct 2009, Holloway2Holland wrote:

    @ 83 No one is advocating non seeding, just that it wasn't made clear at the start of the group stages, when it was already clear that there would be playoffs.

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  • 93. At 3:03pm on 15 Oct 2009, TrotterUSA wrote:

    B.U.R.N.L.E.Y.

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  • 94. At 3:05pm on 15 Oct 2009, adampsb wrote:

    I'm advocating non-seeding for the play-offs I think it would be an excellent idea as teams would tehn have an equal chance o fgoing through without unfair influence

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  • 95. At 3:05pm on 15 Oct 2009, nate_89 wrote:

    80. At 2:48pm on 15 Oct 2009, Second Choice Ssshteve wrote:
    #78
    Are FIFA rankings a joke?

    No they are based on results - what else can you base them on ?

    Fairly typical that FIFA should seed teams though - what else did anyone expect?

    Well i kinda guessed they wer based on results. no issue with that but once again here are some facts.

    ireland unbeaten (scotland and NI are not) - results covered

    Ireland were in Japan/S.Korea in 2002(scotlands last appearance 1998, NI not since the days of Georgey Best) - Past performances covered.

    This is what i meant as by a joke. Hope this helps you understand??

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  • 96. At 3:08pm on 15 Oct 2009, nate_89 wrote:

    Well at the start of the qualifiers i think they said they wouldn't seed. but then when it became apparent that big names would miss out they changed it.

    I dont mind seeding but seed it on performances within the playoffs. maybe points won?

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  • 97. At 3:08pm on 15 Oct 2009, adampsb wrote:

    Yes Trotter but we're at home this time not at the Time-Warp that it is Turf Moor (I men that as a compliment as it is a proper old stadium - bit like Roots Hall was in the 80's when I lived in Southend). Saw some great nights there including beating then 1st Division Derby in the league cup

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  • 98. At 3:09pm on 15 Oct 2009, HantsCricketFan wrote:

    Regardless of what people want the teams to be it doesn't really matter as long as its fair and seeding teams is not a fair way to set up qualification for the WC finals. I would much rather see a tasty encounter between Portugal and France with a place in the finals on the line than see them meet in the competition.

    As far as my earlier comments regarding the 'surprise element' go I think everyone recognises that taking Walcott to the last WC and not playing him was stupid but that fault lies with Sven. Personally I'd rather see Wilshere in the squad than Heskey (or worse Neville) and I think we have much more utility in the squad this time with players like Barry, Milner and Walcott able to cover a number of positions and this could afford us some options when picking the team.

    PS Incidently does anyone else think Glen Johnson is the most overated player in an England shirt at the minute. Apparently being good at "getting into the box" makes up for the fact that he can't defend, is constantly out of position, gets caught in possesion and can't put a decent ball in even when he "gets into the box". Although I do accept there's little alternative........unless.....I wonder what Gary Neville's doing next summer?.....

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  • 99. At 3:12pm on 15 Oct 2009, Neilthedrillgodden wrote:

    My starting England 11 would be;

    GK – Carlo Nash
    DF – Leighton Baines
    DF – Phil Jagielka
    DF – Derek Mountfield
    DF – Tony Hibbert
    MF – Phil Neville
    MF – Leon Osman
    MF – Jack Rodwell
    MF – Dan Gosling
    FW – James Vaughan
    FW – Jose Baxter

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  • 100. At 3:13pm on 15 Oct 2009, GazUtd wrote:


    Nate I don't agree with the seeding one little bit, just wanted a dig in against Staunton, there can never be enough.

    Frankly the seedings are a joke, and the fact that they decided to bring them into the playoffs at such a late stage are a bigger one. And we all know why they have done it.

    Whoever Ireland get it will be tough and I can't see us doing it to be honest but the fact that we were in a large group, didn't get beat, drew with Italy twice and yet still might not end up there when many other teams had a much worse qualifying shows that not only are the seedings a joke but the qualifying is too.

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  • 101. At 3:14pm on 15 Oct 2009, Holloway2Holland wrote:

    Nate makes a couple of good points, I rememeber some years back the USA were in the top 10 (or pretty high anyway) just because they won afew matches in a weak qualification group. But at the the finals they were ****.

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  • 102. At 3:15pm on 15 Oct 2009, Rabster wrote:

    I am not an advocate of seeding, just saying what do you expect?

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  • 103. At 3:17pm on 15 Oct 2009, adampsb wrote:

    #99 - the only team Baxter i sgoing to be playing for is the local prison XI - off to jail for that boy

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  • 104. At 3:24pm on 15 Oct 2009, nate_89 wrote:

    Neilthedrillgodden...

    You wouldn't happen to be a liverpool fan would you?

    And thanks H2H :) Im not saying Ireland deserve to have a easy draw just a fair draw that is based on results.

    The team i was most surprised about was Gabon?? how are they so high in the rankings?

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  • 105. At 3:30pm on 15 Oct 2009, adampsb wrote:

    #104 I suspect Everton is more likely. But Carlo Nash and Derek Mountfield - oh dear

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  • 106. At 3:35pm on 15 Oct 2009, nate_89 wrote:

    he does make a good point about phil neville though! absolutley hero! would have been the best player in the worls he got a bit more luck/talent!

    ok im being silly now!

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  • 107. At 3:35pm on 15 Oct 2009, skgzinho wrote:

    "Not sure how Hargreaves can make anyone's list when he hasn't kicked a ball in anger in so long"?!

    Maybe because in both of the last 2 World Cups he was our best player?

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Hardly say he was our 'best player' at the 2002 world cup. Barely played from what i remember and greatly disliked by the fans, me included.. However i would definetly include him in this squad, fitness permitting. He was our best player at 2006. Good mentality also.

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  • 108. At 3:36pm on 15 Oct 2009, Rovers Return - HKR AWAY DAYS wrote:

    "Me, I'd go for Lennon. Wright-Philips is the only player I know who can have dips in form during a match."

    I just burst out laughing - great line!

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  • 109. At 3:36pm on 15 Oct 2009, boomshakalak wrote:

    Agree with your squad robbo- good options throughout the squad.

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  • 110. At 3:37pm on 15 Oct 2009, Neilthedrillgodden wrote:

    This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the House Rules.

  • 111. At 3:37pm on 15 Oct 2009, King of the Air wrote:

    #95 - Nate

    That would mean basing the rankings on the last few qualifing games though which is not really going to give an accurate picture. As Gaz said Ireland were awful before the current qualifiers so slipped well down the rankings !

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  • 112. At 3:37pm on 15 Oct 2009, My-back-pocket wrote:

    we really should beg Scholes to come out of retirement...just for the world cup...

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  • 113. At 3:41pm on 15 Oct 2009, theenforcer22 wrote:

    I'm presuming Gerrard will start on the left (with Joe cole as cover) which means Robbo's squad has got THREE right midfielders?!!! (Lennon, Walcott and Milner). I think he is more likely to take two right midfielders and take another left back (probably Wayne Bridge but I hope it's Leighton Baines).

    I think likely squad will be: James, Green, Kirkland (once he proves his form and fitness); Johnson, Richards (I don't think Brown is going to get enough games to prove his form/fitness), Terry, Ferdinand, Upson, Jagielka, A Cole, Bridge (hopefully Baines); Walcott, Lennon, Barry, Carrick (possibly Hargreaves if proves form and fitness), Lampard, Beckham, Gerrard, J Cole; Rooney, Heskey, Crouch , Defoe.

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  • 114. At 3:41pm on 15 Oct 2009, King of the Air wrote:

    #112

    Good idea especially as it will be winter in SA and he wouldn't get sunburnt/knackered in the heat !

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  • 115. At 3:41pm on 15 Oct 2009, nate_89 wrote:

    #111 totally agree they wern't great but my argument is were scotland or NI? because both these teams are above them?

    #112 (No sarcasm at all i just love the legend that is scholes) That is the best comment of all 113!! only problme is i fear his mind is made up. im sure capello would take him aswell,

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  • 116. At 3:42pm on 15 Oct 2009, TommyO wrote:

    112. At 3:37pm on 15 Oct 2009, My-back-pocket wrote:

    we really should beg Scholes to come out of retirement...just for the world cup...


    YES ! We'll need a Man Utd player to get sent off costing us our place in the tournament !

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  • 117. At 3:42pm on 15 Oct 2009, nottingham_bluebird wrote:

    I am a Wales fan so god knows I have seen some bad strikers (Jermaine Easter anyone???) but why on earth Emile Heskey is in the England squad is beyond me. My golf partner has got more mobility than him, and he is 74!!!

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  • 118. At 3:44pm on 15 Oct 2009, My-back-pocket wrote:

    ------------------------James------------------------

    Johnson----------Rio---------Terry--------cole-------

    Walcott---------Lampard---------Hargreaves----Gerrard

    ---------------------Rooney--------------------------

    ----------------------------owen----------------------

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  • 119. At 3:44pm on 15 Oct 2009, skgzinho wrote:

    heskey in net

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  • 120. At 3:45pm on 15 Oct 2009, adampsb wrote:

    Who got sent off in 2002?

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  • 121. At 3:47pm on 15 Oct 2009, nate_89 wrote:

    #116 TommyOnion....

    A little unfair tommy? name one time a united player has cost england???



    Other than Beckham, Rooney, Ronaldo........ Ok so we are at fault a little. But we never miss the penalties! Although we are usually either subbed(injured) or in the early bath!

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  • 122. At 3:48pm on 15 Oct 2009, My-back-pocket wrote:

    -------------------james-------------------

    Brown--------Rio--------Terry--------cole

    -----------------Barry-------------------

    -Beckham---------------------------Gerrard

    ------------------Lampard-----------------

    ---------Rooney------------Crouch---------


    think this set up is better...

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  • 123. At 3:49pm on 15 Oct 2009, WhitleyBayWonTheVase wrote:

    Well I'm gutted.

    Firstly, I don't think I have ever wished a defeat more on a team than I did on Argentina last night. I sat and watched every minute of that excuse for football. Uruguay couldn't play for toffee and Argentina looked like they'd eaten too much of it - or at least the bits that Diego Maradonna-kebab hadn't had his greasy mitts on.

    I don't care what people say about the World Cup needing Argentina. I didn't hear too many foreigners say that about England a few years back. They're crap and they'll make an early exit - but it doesn't change the fact we'll have to put up with watching that ugly fat little genius of an ex-footballer show what a diabolical man and team manager he is and generally bringing the game into disrepute at every given opportunity.

    Best footballer of all time, almost certainly in my opinion - but worst role model of all time - definitely.

    Which brings me nicely on to the current world player of the year and why his team just added to my misery earlier in the evening.

    I like watching the thin greasy one play, but I like watching him cry and sob his heart out much more. What is it about genius footballers that makes them such wretched and generally dislikeable people?

    However, with Ronaldo there is the possibility of revenge. So my hopes are now firmly pinned on England meeting Portugal (it'll not be in the final cos we'll both be out before then) and Wazza avenging one of the most snidey acts in football I have ever witnessed. Unfortunately our young Wayne probably won't be able to do so without getting himself sent off in the process, but at least we know England will beat one-man Portugal when the one-man is sent off for crying in public.

    Seriously, what a shame. I was really looking forward to WC2010 without the Argies and the Portugese. Now I just have their ritual humiliation to look forward to.

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  • 124. At 3:50pm on 15 Oct 2009, Spitfire wrote:

    gone are the days when Becks could play 90 minutes (times even more in the WC). I think Walcot if fit will start with Beckham coming on for the last 20 minutes or so if things arent working out.

    Never underestimate experience in the last minutes of a game.

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  • 125. At 3:52pm on 15 Oct 2009, My-back-pocket wrote:

    #116 - YES ! We'll need a Man Utd player to get sent off costing us our place in the tournament !


    its a certain manutd player were all hopin doesnt get injured that will give us half a chance of winning the WC...

    What the ginger magician can do,lampard can only dream of doing.

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  • 126. At 3:54pm on 15 Oct 2009, JustALitaBit wrote:

    It just goes to show what a strong squad England have when you are considering leaving out the likes of Owen, Agbonlahor, Carrick and Young among many others. I wish we had a bit more of an all rounder up front but if Rooney is in goalscoring mood next summer it won't matter.

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  • 127. At 3:55pm on 15 Oct 2009, adampsb wrote:

    Not if he's at Milan they're not - just ask Ancelotti & Maldini

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  • 128. At 3:55pm on 15 Oct 2009, GazUtd wrote:


    Did anyone notice the goal that Nani scored last night?

    What happened there? Clearly the Portuguese team has not learnt from the United team and are still passing the ball to him.

    The worst thing about it is that he will think he can do it again for the next few months and be back to his usual not passing and trying ridiculous shots. One will probably go in against Bolton though.

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  • 129. At 3:56pm on 15 Oct 2009, GazUtd wrote:


    An excellent point for TommyO from My-Back-Pocket...

    Tommy - are you going to be able to admit that Rooney is your best player and best chance of doing anything at the WC?

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  • 130. At 3:57pm on 15 Oct 2009, TommyO wrote:

    125. At 3:52pm on 15 Oct 2009, My-back-pocket wrote:

    What the ginger magician can do,lampard can only dream of doing.



    be lauded for his inability to tackle ? be a bit part player for Man U ? retire from International football 5 years ago?


    you need to be more specific

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  • 131. At 3:58pm on 15 Oct 2009, TommyO wrote:

    129. At 3:56pm on 15 Oct 2009, GazUtd wrote:

    Tommy - are you going to be able to admit that Rooney is your best player and best chance of doing anything at the WC?


    Football is a team game, Gaz, always was, always will be.

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  • 132. At 3:58pm on 15 Oct 2009, nate_89 wrote:

    Im not sure if Rooney is a guarentee for goals though? I just wish united could have him up front now with Van nistelrooy from when he was banging them in from everywhere.

    Give rooney a goal scorer and he wil create for them, and then because defenders are worrying about the goal scorer rooney will have more space!

    if he plays with heskey good teams will let heskey have the ball and crowd out rooney!

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  • 133. At 3:59pm on 15 Oct 2009, adampsb wrote:

    I know Nani scoring - well you never know he could be our version of John Jensen. well a bit more prolific than that.

    I hesitate to mention this as it is maybe asking for trouble but has anyone noticed that JDR & Andre have been missing for sometime now..I realise they may be plotting revenge or simply had their licence fees refunded but its a bit odd not seeing those long ranting essays and daitribes.

    I'm going to have to step-up my Gary Neville for England campaign or insult Rafa again just to get more comnments up.

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  • 134. At 3:59pm on 15 Oct 2009, awesomeMr_Burns wrote:

    What i find is a bit of a worry is that most peoples selections are all the same apart from the odd one or two,showing we have some real problems with good English players.Think about it we are selecting players who have hardly kicked a ball all season (Hargreaves+Cole) have fitness issues(Owen)and if there was someone better they wouldnt be in the selection(Heskey,SWP and the keepers).We hardly have "depth of squad"
    I would love to see England lift that Trophy but have this terrible feeling its gonna be a over hyped rely on one player anticlimax.

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  • 135. At 4:00pm on 15 Oct 2009, My-back-pocket wrote:

    #130 be lauded for his inability to tackle ? be a bit part player for Man U ? retire from International football 5 years ago?

    how about his passing ability,much better than that of Lampard's,his vision,finding space,ability to actually stay in a holding role and control the tempo of the game,allowing Gerrard to blast forward,leaving the left flank for J.cole, Lampard is creating more problems for England than fixing them.

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  • 136. At 4:01pm on 15 Oct 2009, Neilthedrillgodden wrote:

    I can’t believe my comment was referred to the moderators? It was simply fact that I wrote. And I thought my father accepting my civil partner was hard work!!

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  • 137. At 4:02pm on 15 Oct 2009, GazUtd wrote:

    At 3:58pm on 15 Oct 2009, TommyOnion wrote:
    129. At 3:56pm on 15 Oct 2009, GazUtd wrote:

    Tommy - are you going to be able to admit that Rooney is your best player and best chance of doing anything at the WC?


    Football is a team game, Gaz, always was, always will be.


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    That would be a "No" then would it?

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  • 138. At 4:03pm on 15 Oct 2009, adampsb wrote:

    Scholes should be lauded for his skill, ability to read the game, passing ability and general all-round brilliance.

    Yes his tackling is dodgy but he is still quality and brings a lot to games.

    And despite it being a "team game" Rooney is still our best player much the same way that Ronaldo is Real Madrid's best player and we are at more of a disadvantage without him than if anyone else gets injured.

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  • 139. At 4:03pm on 15 Oct 2009, Penners wrote:

    Agree with the team but I'd much rather Carlton Cole or Darrem Bent as the 'big lad up top' ahead of Heskey should Crouchy need replacing

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  • 140. At 4:05pm on 15 Oct 2009, My-back-pocket wrote:

    football is a team game yes,but when a certain player is still chasing down half chances in the 90th minute and leading by example you cant help but give him the titel of 'our best player' - which by the way is Rooney.

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  • 141. At 4:05pm on 15 Oct 2009, TommyO wrote:

    135. At 4:00pm on 15 Oct 2009, My-back-pocket wrote:
    how about his passing ability,much better than that of Lampard's,his vision,finding space,ability to actually stay in a holding role and control the tempo of the game,allowing Gerrard to blast forward,leaving the left flank for J.cole, Lampard is creating more problems for England than fixing them


    I wouldn't say i was Lampard's No.1 fan but he fought for Scholes position in te England team 5 years ago, rightly won it (Scholes form for England for 2 years prior to that was dire) at which point Scholes threw the towel in and retired from International football. That's his prerogative but it's not the attitude of a player I'd want to go begging to when we have so many players desperate to get into the squad in the midfield positions.

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  • 142. At 4:06pm on 15 Oct 2009, prince_blue wrote:

    Robinson for Hart
    Jagielka (if fit) for Lescott or Brown
    Carrick for Hargreaves
    Own (if fit) for Heskey or Crouch

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  • 143. At 4:06pm on 15 Oct 2009, adampsb wrote:

    Gaz - Tommy is just frustrated that Saint Stevie isn't viewed as indispensible (may find Joe Cole nicks the left-wing slot from him)and Rooney is.

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  • 144. At 4:07pm on 15 Oct 2009, WhitleyBayWonTheVase wrote:

    In respect of England...

    I have read Mr McNulty saying that David Beckham should be left at home and I'll not bother wasting my time on his blog again. AC Milan must be wrong. Fabio must be wrong. Countless managers who'd die for him in their squad must be wrong. It takes seconds to score a goal or serve up a ball with such precision that someone else can put it away - and that is something Beckham brings that no-one else in the England squad can do with the same efficiency.

    I don't care if he plays 20 minutes. In fact he shouldn't really play much more, but to suggest leaving him is ridiculous and he has proven that to all his doubters in the qualification process.

    But, on to the rest...

    Heskey absolutely has to go. He has brought the team to where it is by merely being there. If David James scores all of Englands goals, who cares? If a player is a part of a jigsaw that completes a picture - who the hell should mind?

    SWP is a really nice guy and I like his Dad too. But he shouldn't be going.

    Terry and Rio are nailed on.

    James in goal, preferably nailed to his line so he doesn't come out and do anything stupid.

    Wes Brown, if he proves his recovery, has to go too in my opinion. He was Man Uniteds best defender in the 6 months before he got injured and he was very consistent with top quality performances. If he can show he is recovered - hes a no brainer in my opinion.

    Owen, forget it. Fergie isn't playing him much even when he is fit. Fabio knows it and he ain't going anywhere.

    Cashley and Bridge seem certain, though I'm not a Bridge fan (prefer Poker myself - no inuendo please).

    Barry, Gerrard, Lampard and....hmmm. Milner. Yes, take Milner - but also wait and see how Hargreaves is looking because I'd much rather he went than the ever reliable 'bound to disappoint and did I really cost that much' Michael Carrick.

    Defoe. Crouch.

    Then, boy wonder.

    Irrelevant anyway. We ain't gonna win it and no-one every learns. We aren't good enough. Sorry, but the truth.

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  • 145. At 4:08pm on 15 Oct 2009, nate_89 wrote:

    The debate about scholes is a fascinating one! in 1995 Sir Alex described Nicky Butt as the best teenager they had at the club. They rated him more than Becks, Scholes, neville. (Im assuming they left Giggs out fo that category although he was still a teenager because he had won 2 League titles by then and was established.)

    The point is scholes worked harder than anyone else at developong his game to be the best and then when he was the best a certain "Sven" decided that he couldn't pick between scholes, lampard and gerrard. and the one with the most experience and ability should play left wing!

    That is why scholes quit because he didnt want to ruin his chances of playing for united for as long as possible by playing out of position for england or even by sitting on the bench for england.

    All of us will say "if we had the chance to sit on the bench for england we would" etc but at the end of the day it must be frustrating when you are constantly shown by the manager you are not first choice!

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  • 146. At 4:09pm on 15 Oct 2009, TommyO wrote:

    137. At 4:02pm on 15 Oct 2009, GazUtd wrote:

    That would be a "No" then would it?

    it's a stupid premise


    He's our best striker but not our best midfielder, not our best defender and not our best keeper - though he might be better than Foster. He's one man in a team of 11. McNulty had a blog about this the other day and surprisingly enough he was talking out of his backside.

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  • 147. At 4:09pm on 15 Oct 2009, TrotterUSA wrote:

    Could be for Zoot but let's see.....If one takes 3.141596 out of "opinion" what is one left with?

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  • 148. At 4:10pm on 15 Oct 2009, adampsb wrote:

    I wouldn't say i was Lampard's No.1 fan but he fought for Scholes position in te England team 5 years ago, rightly won it (Scholes form for England for 2 years prior to that was dire) at which point Scholes threw the towel in and retired from International football.

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    Actually I think you'll find he retired as Sven was obsessed with a Gerrard-Lampard central midfield axis and kept playing Scholes on the left wing (which considering he is asthmatic and right-footed and not noted for his pace wasn't exactly smart management) which meant that Schholes was getting marked down for performances which were down to Svens tactics. Ask Carragher why he retired. Oh yes he didn't want to play at left-back (as he is right-footed)and couldn't dislodge Ferdinand & Terry at CB but you'd take him to South Africa wouldn't you Tommy

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  • 149. At 4:10pm on 15 Oct 2009, King of the Air wrote:

    As much as I think Scholes is an excellent player, TommyOnions has got it spot on - if a player wants to retire from internationals that means he doesn't want to play for his country and as such there is no point in asking if he wants to return. England have moved on.

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  • 150. At 4:11pm on 15 Oct 2009, lordSUPERFRED wrote:

    pick any combination you like it will end in tears , this is a 53 year old Englishman who gave up on England after Japan .
    waste of time the lot of them , we are a pub side in international terms , looking at a 40year old butterfingered keeper as a safe option says it all , I off on me hols away from telly when the world cup is on , will get back for semis when England will be well home with there feet up

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  • 151. At 4:12pm on 15 Oct 2009, My-back-pocket wrote:

    #141 - I wouldn't say i was Lampard's No.1 fan but he fought for Scholes position in te England team 5 years ago, rightly won it (Scholes form for England for 2 years prior to that was dire) at which point Scholes threw the towel in and retired from International football. That's his prerogative but it's not the attitude of a player I'd want to go begging to when we have so many players desperate to get into the squad in the midfield position

    yes that was 5 years ago when age was finally catching up with Scholes,but now he is playing better than ever and to take him to the WC would be a wise decision,many times we have needed Gerrard to go forward but he cant coz lampard has parked his rear end outside the box,scholes has adapted his game,much like giggs his team mate has at utd,if 30 yard precision through balls is what were lookin for from a midfielder who is willing to sit back then Scholes is our man.

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  • 152. At 4:13pm on 15 Oct 2009, adampsb wrote:

    147. At 4:09pm on 15 Oct 2009, TrotterUSA wrote:
    Could be for Zoot but let's see.....If one takes 3.141596 out of "opinion" what is one left with?

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    You're not an existentialist as well are you

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  • 153. At 4:14pm on 15 Oct 2009, Tatloaf wrote:

    Well I for one will be cheering on whoever plays against Ireland, I still remember 94.

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  • 154. At 4:16pm on 15 Oct 2009, My-back-pocket wrote:

    146 - He's our best striker but not our best midfielder, not our best defender and not our best keeper - though he might be better than Foster. He's one man in a team of 11. McNulty had a blog about this the other day and surprisingly enough he was talking out of his backside.

    really? half the time he is covering for those midfielders and defenders which is what makes him our no1 player

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  • 155. At 4:17pm on 15 Oct 2009, TrotterUSA wrote:

    Adam, no, occasionally I'm one with the hot dog but my favourite pi just happens to be a Kate & Sidney or meat & potato.

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  • 156. At 4:17pm on 15 Oct 2009, GazUtd wrote:


    WBWTV you almost had me losing all respect for you when you said you like Ian Wright! There are many injustices in the world but the fact that Wright has money, fame and unbelievably a succession of TV shows is proof if it were needed that nothing is fair.

    But then you redeemed yourself by taking the pragmatic view that no other England fan ever seems to do, and you are right, they never learn.

    One more for Tommy - so by your logic then Tommy am I correct in saying that St. Steven or Torres are definitely not your best player?

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  • 157. At 4:18pm on 15 Oct 2009, GazUtd wrote:

    At 4:14pm on 15 Oct 2009, The Blue Hatter (bring back the TMS message boards!!) wrote:
    Well I for one will be cheering on whoever plays against Ireland, I still remember 94.


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    Booooooooooooooooo!

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  • 158. At 4:18pm on 15 Oct 2009, King of the Air wrote:

    Whats with all the 'we won't win it anyway' comments ?

    So what ? sure, there will be better teams there than England but under Capello they will give it a go and the fans will see that. I don't think there are that many fans who think England will win it but there is a chance with a decent draw and certain players avoiding injury.

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  • 159. At 4:19pm on 15 Oct 2009, DangerJones11 wrote:

    ######## Do you reckon if Scholes all of a sudden decided to come out of international retirement he would be on the plane??? ########

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  • 160. At 4:19pm on 15 Oct 2009, adampsb wrote:

    157. At 4:18pm on 15 Oct 2009, GazUtd wrote:
    At 4:14pm on 15 Oct 2009, The Blue Hatter (bring back the TMS message boards!!) wrote:
    Well I for one will be cheering on whoever plays against Ireland, I still remember 94.


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    Booooooooooooooooo!

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    Exactly the chant he will be using

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  • 161. At 4:21pm on 15 Oct 2009, My-back-pocket wrote:

    159 ######## Do you reckon if Scholes all of a sudden decided to come out of international retirement he would be on the plane??? ########

    Capello will personally pack his bags for him and carry them if he comes out of retirement...

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  • 162. At 4:22pm on 15 Oct 2009, TrotterUSA wrote:

    MBP, of course you're right, Rooney is easily the best player, the most valuable to the team, the most difficult to replace, first name on the team sheet and the list for plane tickets etc etc. And if LFC bought him for 100 million in January, even their fans would agree too! Of course, I just hope his calf is still playing up on Saturday and he stays home with his feet up.

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  • 163. At 4:23pm on 15 Oct 2009, adampsb wrote:

    and as your wish comes true..Michael Owen scores the winner

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  • 164. At 4:24pm on 15 Oct 2009, TrotterUSA wrote:

    maybe...in the 18th minute of injury time!

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  • 165. At 4:25pm on 15 Oct 2009, TommyO wrote:

    148. At 4:10pm on 15 Oct 2009, adampsb wrote:
    Actually I think you'll find he retired as Sven was obsessed with a Gerrard-Lampard central midfield axis and kept playing Scholes on the left wing (which considering he is asthmatic and right-footed and not noted for his pace wasn't exactly smart management) which meant that Schholes was getting marked down for performances which were down to Svens tactics. Ask Carragher why he retired. Oh yes he didn't want to play at left-back (as he is right-footed)and couldn't dislodge Ferdinand & Terry at CB but you'd take him to South Africa wouldn't you Tommy


    More nonsense from the King of making up stuff and passing it off as other people's opinions !

    Scholes form for England (1 goal in 3 years playing in central midfield)coupled with Lampard's for Chelsea and then England when he got the opportunity forced the Scholes positional move. He didn't like and quit. Fair enough.

    Carragher quit not because he couldn't oust Ferdinand/Terry but because he thought he should be No.1 back up to them. MacLaren thought Ledley '1-leg' King was the better bet and Carra quit. Fair enough.

    i wouldn't take either of them for reasons already stated.

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  • 166. At 4:26pm on 15 Oct 2009, King of the Air wrote:

    Surely Sir Angry has upset all referees now and won't get his Fergie time added on any more ?

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  • 167. At 4:27pm on 15 Oct 2009, TommyO wrote:

    154. At 4:16pm on 15 Oct 2009, My-back-pocket wrote:
    really? half the time he is covering for those midfielders and defenders which is what makes him our no1 player


    that's quite simply rubbish

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  • 168. At 4:27pm on 15 Oct 2009, arsenaldan89 wrote:

    Bring Scholes back? The last thing we need is getting a player sent off in an important game. But hey, why not get Shearer, Shilton, Gazza and Charlton out of retirement?

    All jokes aside, I think we should get as many Man U players as possible in the team. That way, the ref will think it is actually Man U playing and it is at Old Trafford and so we can score a winner in the 98th minute when only 1 was indicated by the 4th official.

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  • 169. At 4:29pm on 15 Oct 2009, TommyO wrote:

    156. At 4:17pm on 15 Oct 2009, GazUtd wrote:
    One more for Tommy - so by your logic then Tommy am I correct in saying that St. Steven or Torres are definitely not your best player?

    It's a stupid premise

    Liverpool beat Man Utd last year without Torres and Gerrard on the bench for 70 minutes.


    Football is a team game. 'Best' player is a red herring.

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  • 170. At 4:30pm on 15 Oct 2009, My-back-pocket wrote:

    168 - so then your arguing we should get Scholes on the plane to SA?.. o.O


    167 - so is our team sheet with Lampard init instead of Scholes.

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  • 171. At 4:33pm on 15 Oct 2009, TommyO wrote:

    170. At 4:30pm on 15 Oct 2009, My-back-pocket wrote:

    he retired 5 years ago - get over it !

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  • 172. At 4:34pm on 15 Oct 2009, adampsb wrote:

    I haven't passed it off as anyones opinion but my own and Scholes while not the most prolific scorer with England.

    What about teh 11 in the 3 preceding seasons and he wasn't playing centre mid in 2003 but Sven had stuck him out on the left which he persevered with until after Euro2004 when he retired and didn't have a go at Sven when he did so (unlike Carragher did)

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  • 173. At 4:35pm on 15 Oct 2009, RedBlueArmy92 wrote:

    Scholes... really. I know we have a tendancy to go off topic on this blog, but surely Scholes for an England return is taking it too far!

    Now thats quite enough of this silliness... And now for something completely different...

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  • 174. At 4:35pm on 15 Oct 2009, degba11 wrote:

    im an ireland fan but i have to know why walcott and heskey are in your selection walcott makes no impact and heskey cant score darren bent is scoring week in week out but is being overlooked and wheres carton cole he is as strong as heskey but has pace and worries defenders if michael owen gets a few more games and scores the goals then he should be considered

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  • 175. At 4:38pm on 15 Oct 2009, adampsb wrote:

    Tommy

    Whether you beat Utd without them is irrelevant they are still your best players, Messi is Barcelona's best player, Ronaldo is Madrid's Team game or not there will always be 1 or 2 players that shine above the others hence why we have Player of the Year awards.

    Why can't you admit that United have good players who have performed well for England and continue to do so in Rooney's case.. you don't seem to have any problems promoting Gerrard and Johnson (even given the fact that defensively he is a liability)

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  • 176. At 4:38pm on 15 Oct 2009, bluehellsbells wrote:

    I agree with Robbo's for the team but more importantly, who will be voted off Strictly on Saturdau.

    I am sorry but 'we' are now over 170 posts in and STILL on topic, dear me has the JDRgang brainwashed you all?

    Surely Gaz (hope you and your wife are well) H2H, Trotter and co can do better than this and, hopefully lower the tone once more.

    As for WBWTV, you havem't mentioned your team once today nor any trophies you may have won lately

    Also be interesting to see if Adampsb and TommyOnion ever call a truce

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  • 177. At 4:38pm on 15 Oct 2009, My-back-pocket wrote:

    171

    and now we need him back

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  • 178. At 4:38pm on 15 Oct 2009, littletomrobinho wrote:

    "It shouldn't be hard for him to trap a ball and pass it accurately. Although that rather suggests that Shaun Wright-Philips shouldn't be on the pitch."

    Robbo, if you actually did your research rather than make sweeping assumptions then you would have notice SWP had a pass success rate of 84% (21/25) against Belarus.

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  • 179. At 4:40pm on 15 Oct 2009, TommyO wrote:

    172. At 4:34pm on 15 Oct 2009, adampsb wrote:

    I haven't passed it off as anyones opinion but my own and Scholes while not the most prolific scorer with England.


    apart from saying I'd take Carragher to the WC, no.



    What about teh 11 in the 3 preceding season


    so he was great up until 2001? Big deal !

    He didn't score again until the Croatia game in 2004. Lamaprd didn't even get 90 minutes for England until the summer of 2003 so Scholes lost the position all on his own.

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  • 180. At 4:41pm on 15 Oct 2009, adampsb wrote:

    #176 -

    Strictly - all of them hopefully but at least get rid of Brucie his flirting is creepy never mind embarrassing.

    Truce - not until he admits that United were the better team last season (i.e. 2 wins don't make you champions)

    and Did you know that Whitley Bay are top of the table and won the vase?

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  • 181. At 4:41pm on 15 Oct 2009, King of the Air wrote:

    #177

    But he won't come back so its pointless continuing with this !

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  • 182. At 4:43pm on 15 Oct 2009, adampsb wrote:

    Robbo, if you actually did your research rather than make sweeping assumptions then you would have notice SWP had a pass success rate of 84% (21/25) against Belarus

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    To the Belarus players yes.

    Anyway if he actually did research this blog would be as boring and on-topic as McNulty's so best not eh

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  • 183. At 4:44pm on 15 Oct 2009, TrotterUSA wrote:

    A much better campaign would begin with the headline "Scholes for Bolton" (if it weren't for Oldham). I think he's been brilliant since his eye problems got (almost) sorted out but he's not upto playing every three or four days as will be needed at the World Cup, can we really have another part-timer if Beckham is already designated in that role!

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  • 184. At 4:48pm on 15 Oct 2009, adampsb wrote:

    Well we could take Kevin Davies - may be a better option than Heskey. One thing though I've noticed that there are alternates for right-mid, left-mid and defensive mid but apart from Lampard who are we taking as an attacking central midielder given that StevieG will be on the left?

    Maybe yet another reason why Beckham should be on the plane

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  • 185. At 4:48pm on 15 Oct 2009, TrotterUSA wrote:

    BluesHellsBells, don't worry, all in good time, most folks will be leaving work in 15 minutes, it'll degenerate soon enough.

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  • 186. At 4:48pm on 15 Oct 2009, TommyO wrote:

    175. At 4:38pm on 15 Oct 2009, adampsb wrote:

    Tommy

    Whether you beat Utd without them is irrelevant they are still your best players, Messi is Barcelona's best player, Ronaldo is Madrid's Team game or not there will always be 1 or 2 players that shine above the others hence why we have Player of the Year awards.


    So Giggs was your best player last year? Without him you'd have won nothing?

    See - stupid, isn't it?


    Why can't you admit that United have good players who have performed well for England and continue to do so in Rooney's case.. you don't seem to have any problems promoting Gerrard and Johnson (even given the fact that defensively he is a liability)

    I have already said Rooney's our best striker. For my money Ferdinand (despite recent blips) remains our best defender.

    But if people think we only have a chance if one particular player is available i think they need their heads read.

    We had all this back in 82 - how we HAD to have Keegan fit
    then in 86 & 90 it was all about Bryan Robson (the fact we played much better without him seems to pass most people by)
    98 there was all the bru-ha-ha about Gazza (Hoddle was still wrong not to take him) and but for a moment of lunacy from Beckham who knows where we would have been?
    In 02 it was up to Michael Owen's fitness, 06 it was our hopes resting on Rooney's metatarsal when ironically our hopes were undone by Rooney's metatarsals resting on the testicles of Carvalho!


    Football is a team game. We'll only do well at the World Cup if the team plays well.

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  • 187. At 4:49pm on 15 Oct 2009, TrotterUSA wrote:

    184 Adam, I always knew you were brilliant. Of course, KD is the man. The answer to your next question is Matty Taylor!

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  • 188. At 4:50pm on 15 Oct 2009, Ad wrote:

    Guessing/picking a squad now is pointless. There are still seeven months left until the finals. Injuries will happen. Players might even pick up some form - since Capello is supposedly playing players in form (Heskey ha ha) - so until the season is finshed.....

    We certainly need a gritty "break up play" defensive midfielder liek Mascherano does for Liverpool and Argentina. We just don't seem to have one. Barry is too much of a playmaker than a play breaker. If we don't take one, there's no point in taking attacking full backs like Cole and Johnson. We're left worryingly short defensively and will be horribly exposed against the likes of Spain Holland and Brazil unless it is sorted.

    I'm of the opinion that England should adopt more of a five man midfield with Gerrard supporting Rooney in a "free" role, attacking full backs (Cole and Johnson), and a play-breaker defensive midfielder (what about Lee Cattermole although no international experience).

    The goalkeeper is a contentious issue. It's an open contest between those around the squad. it depends on who comes out with the best form. Ben Foster has the best chance, playing Champs Lge games, he just needs to confidence to keep out EvdS when he returns.

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  • 189. At 4:51pm on 15 Oct 2009, dangermash wrote:

    Your squad is the closest I've seen to my own, Robbo, with only four differences. Some of my selections might be controversial though.

    I'd take:
    a) Mark Noble(!) rather than Lennon - we need someone else in the centre, not another winger
    b) Baines rather than Lescott - decent left back cover
    c) Jagielka rather than Upson - someone comfortable on the ball
    d) Ledley King(!!) rather than Brown - Ledders can only play one game a week but that's all we'll need.

    I'm left with Johnson as the only right back but Hargreaves provides cover. If he's not available then Phil Neville(!!!) can cover at both right back and midfield destroyer.

    And I like the selection of Hart as third keeper - I'd be bringing him on as a 'penalty specialist' after 119 minutes of a knock out game.

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  • 190. At 4:52pm on 15 Oct 2009, TommyB wrote:

    Trotter, don't you mean "schools for Bolton"?

    Not sure about this debate, seems like deja vu all over again (sic). I'm sure I saw someone suggest Barry for man of the match on either this or McNulty's blog, ergo must be a Citeh fan or blind man. And SWP's pass completion ratio is pretty irrelevant, in the grand scheme of things. Not sure why I'm picking on City. Probably because Adam's doing swimmingly making Man Utd fans look like fools all on his own.

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  • 191. At 4:53pm on 15 Oct 2009, arsenaldan89 wrote:

    170

    Depends how intimidated the ref is by Man U.
    Here's a scale (1-5):

    1 - Sit down and shut it Fergie!
    2 - How much cash you got on you?
    3 - Maybe on another day Sir Alex.
    4 - Defender won the ball but my eyesight was "blocked" - Penalty!
    5 - "Scholes is brought down unfairly on the half way line... HE'S GIVEN A PENALTY!"

    Obviously it depends where they fall. If 5 then we should take him AND Neville, if 1 then we certainly must not.

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  • 192. At 4:53pm on 15 Oct 2009, JoeDavisRoach wrote:

    Robbo/Niall what is the point of this blog? Are you so short on material that you have to recycle previous blogs on such a regular basis? Not long ago we had a blog on "why England will win the world cup" which covered the English players. Now we get another half baked job about who should be picked despite a whole season of football ahead.

    Couple this with the fact that your not really supposed to be a "journalist" - so your picks are just the representation of a fictional character with some weak reasoning. poor analysis and even poorer attempt at humour. If your going to write about the picks at least put in some effort to your opinions and something in depth instead of a shallow based reasoning on players that that could easily gain and lose form over season.

    Add to this the fact its poorly written in a haphazard fashion. No structure whatsoever, just aimless musings between stating the obvious and faild attempts at both humour and anything resembling a decent argument or analysis.

    Despite the wealth of other games and potential play offs, not to mention the strong teams eliminated you can only resurrect the spectre of the Gelled Tumbler. So predictable and lazy. No originality. Same old characters, same appalling humour, same tired outlooks, same ultimate failure to provide a reasonable blog. Just recycled Robboisms from start to finish.

    And before anyone cares to point out the usual - "Robbo" is offering the man on the street view, "Robbos" blogs are meant to be lighthearted etc - the point is Robbos blogs are supposed to be funny and at a base level (the bar is set frightningly low) a decent peice of material. I cant see how it takes such a gargantuan effort to provide this. Im all for some humorous writing but this is frankly just recycled blog material ad nauseum. Theres so rarely an attempt at anything original or refreshing and part of that is because he knows he can get away with it. Why? Because people will come on a react to his predictable views which generally cover a topic that requires no effort to write about. He may aswell just write "here is my england panel" - discuss. Im aware the man has tight deadlines to meet but the lazyness in writing and subject matter is really disappointing. Wazza this, Gelled Tumbler that and enough any roads to cover an entire continent. I suppose we can look forward to Drogba diving, Rooney/Gerrards injuries and Fergie/Rafas latest spats next week as well as what Tony Thompson in the Blue Bell had for his pre Sunday League match breakfast. Inspired stuff!

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  • 193. At 4:54pm on 15 Oct 2009, adampsb wrote:

    Giggs best player - debateable - definitely weighed in at important moments. Iw ould have said van Der Sar or Ronaldo to be honest but yes the whole team has to play well but one individual can have a moment of brilliance that tips the balance

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  • 194. At 4:56pm on 15 Oct 2009, TommyO wrote:

    Welcome back, Joe.

    It's been too long since you re-hashed the same old crap again!

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  • 195. At 4:56pm on 15 Oct 2009, RedBlueArmy92 wrote:

    Trotter @ 185... yeah degenerate without me! If i wanted a serious debate i would have joined the 4 hour "moderate" wait on mcnulty's...

    Someone start an argument overnight... Denis, Gaz said Arsene is still trying to fill George Grahams Shoes... Gaz, Denis said that Fergie is way past retirement... TommyO, Adam said...well you two are rowing quite nicely. Oh and WhitleyBay, JDR, Andre Ira and the rest of the JDRgang, are all Spennymoor Town fans and they all say that Whitley are just setting themselves up for a fall...

    NOW RUMBLE!



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  • 196. At 4:56pm on 15 Oct 2009, TommyB wrote:

    Oh, and squad-wise, Jagielka should definitely be challenging for a starting spot if fit. I know he's a Toffee but there you go.

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  • 197. At 4:56pm on 15 Oct 2009, Pompey Lackey wrote:

    I honestly think not enough is being made of the fact that the play-offs are now seeded.

    This is nothing short of scandalous. If I was one of the lesser nations in this predicament, I'd be mightily ****** off.

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  • 198. At 4:57pm on 15 Oct 2009, bluehellsbells wrote:

    # 185 Trotter

    I will wait patiently for the deteriation (apologies RBA for not including you in my earleir post re lowering the tone of this blog)

    I certainly don't pay my licence fee to be wasted on all this serious stuff


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  • 199. At 4:58pm on 15 Oct 2009, ZEUSFC wrote:

    192. At 4:53pm on 15 Oct 2009, JoeDavisRoach wrote:
    Robbo/Niall what is the point of this blog? Are you so short on material that you have to recycle previous blogs on such a regular basis?
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    JoeDavis/Roach what is the point of this comment? Are YOU so short on material that you have to recycle previous comments on such a regular basis

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  • 200. At 4:58pm on 15 Oct 2009, TommyB wrote:

    JDR we've been worried. You never call.

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  • 201. At 4:59pm on 15 Oct 2009, adampsb wrote:

    Result - JDR is back from retirement and possibly even right for a change.

    as for tommyb if you think I'm bad I sudder to theink what Onion is making Liverpool fans look like and well-reasoned informed people it's not.

    I'm going now so any retorts, responses or insults will not be read but I have one last thing to say: -

    GARY NEVILLE FOR ENGLAND!!!!!!!!

    and yes before Captainlazytim logs on I am winding you up (but still maybe if Johnson gets injured Fabio will be on the phone)

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  • 202. At 4:59pm on 15 Oct 2009, Starburst_995 wrote:

    Ah shove off JDR. We don't care for your rehashed and reheated BS.

    The blog's got people talking and debating the cause for any number of candidates for the England World Cup 23.

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  • 203. At 5:01pm on 15 Oct 2009, Owen_Rules wrote:

    My Goalkeeper rating (Maximum score - 60)

    Green Hart James Foster
    Confidence 7 8 8 4
    Ball distribution 6 6 8 3
    Crosses 6 6 6 5
    Experience 6 5 7 5
    Recent blunders 7 7 7 2
    Shot stopping 8 7 8 8
    Score 40 39 44 27

    Green = 40
    Hart = 39
    James = 44
    Foster = 27

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  • 204. At 5:01pm on 15 Oct 2009, TrotterUSA wrote:

    TommyB, no, and you're granting BluesHellsBells his wish right on 5pm. Definitely no more schools for Bolton, they only get filled with unsavoury elements from neighbouring counties. Schools for Liverpool first.

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  • 205. At 5:01pm on 15 Oct 2009, TommyB wrote:

    TommyO's pretty reasonable actually, you just can't see it past your massive Manc eyebrows.

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  • 206. At 5:03pm on 15 Oct 2009, My-back-pocket wrote:

    192 - u still read it and were moved so much by what u read that u wrote your own crap. Robbo = legend. you = halfwit.

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  • 207. At 5:04pm on 15 Oct 2009, TommyB wrote:

    Trotter, as the ex-capital of culture we don't need more schools, just somewhere cavernous, unused, and spaciously devoid of life to store all the leftover lambananas. In fact, what am I talking about? We've got Goodison Park!

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  • 208. At 5:05pm on 15 Oct 2009, ZEUSFC wrote:

    Robbo, any chance of getting this blog to "auto reload" after about ten seconds? i can't keep up!

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  • 209. At 5:08pm on 15 Oct 2009, TrotterUSA wrote:

    yes indeed, Glasgow too I was led to understand. With a bit of luck you'll have Anfield too, all in good time. What's the latest anyway, did G&H secure some oil riches?

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  • 210. At 5:08pm on 15 Oct 2009, Zootmac wrote:

    147 Trotter

    No idea of the answer. Brings tears to the eyes.

    Interesting to see Jack Wilshere's name appearing, albeit speculatively, on this thread. I penciled him in as a possibility a while ago. There's still time for the young fella to make an big impact this season.

    Don't want a huge gamble when the stakes are so high, but don't let's be entirely boring either.

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  • 211. At 5:10pm on 15 Oct 2009, TrotterUSA wrote:

    Gaz, can you please post your JDR rant youtube link? It's time for a larf!!

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  • 212. At 5:11pm on 15 Oct 2009, TrotterUSA wrote:

    Zoot, I thought you, of all, would nail it! 3.141596 = pi

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  • 213. At 5:14pm on 15 Oct 2009, JoeDavisRoach wrote:

    210. At 5:08pm on 15 Oct 2009, Zootmac wrote:
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    I dont see Wilshere getting enough game time with Arsenal outside of League Cup to grab a place. When you look at Arsenals midfield and forward line theres alot of competition already so most of his game time will be limited to sub appearances in matches that are already over.

    Capello could gamble like Erikson did with Walcott but it doesnt seem his style.

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  • 214. At 5:16pm on 15 Oct 2009, TrotterUSA wrote:

    Gamble? Did he even play? It was a waste of a plane ticket.

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  • 215. At 5:16pm on 15 Oct 2009, Zootmac wrote:

    Late last night I watched "Valkyrie", which was an OK film about an attempt to assassinate Hitler. Serious stuff, but totally spoiled because every time the guy playing Hitler began to rant I was in stitches: I could only see a re-enactment of Gaz's video.

    Eddie Izzard as a German officer and a master strategist didn't help either.

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  • 216. At 5:18pm on 15 Oct 2009, TommyB wrote:

    Not sure about the oil riches just yet, Trott, they won't let me into the room.

    And I know I sound like a liar and a smart-a*se, but I got your teaser - Onions. Just got sidetracked commenting on the evolutionary anomaly known as the Mancunian eyebrow.

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  • 217. At 5:24pm on 15 Oct 2009, Zootmac wrote:

    212 Trotter

    Which, if you remove from "opinion", leaves "onion", which "brings tears to the eyes".

    I'm wasted on you lot.

    Joe - I agree absolutely that that's a key part of the dilemma about Jack Wilshere. But you could say something not dissimilar about players like Heskey, who find it difficult to keep a first team place. I think that Wilshere is outstanding, and may make a breakthrough this season, even bearing in mind the level of competition at Arsenal.

    As I say, speculative, but interesting. I don't think that it's entirely out of the question this time round - and certainly one for the next calpaign.

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  • 218. At 5:30pm on 15 Oct 2009, JoeDavisRoach wrote:

    217. At 5:24pm on 15 Oct 2009, Zootmac wrote:
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    Heskey to an extent is "proven" though and you pretty much know what your getting.

    Wilkshere would be a huge gamble if your going off sub appearances when Arsenal are three goals up or the odd impressive display in the League cup. England are reasonable strong in the attacking midfielder department although Wilshere being left footed adds something a bit different.

    Id find it hard to see him included unless he has some real game time with Arsenal but thats highly debateable. Heskey may well move anyway in order to give himself a better chance. If he remains inactive for a whole season I imagine Capello would look elsewhere. Especially if Bent can keep up his recent impressive displays.

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  • 219. At 5:30pm on 15 Oct 2009, TrotterUSA wrote:

    Tommy and Zoot, you're both brilliant but we knew that already. Can make a grown man cry but goes well with the hot dog!

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  • 220. At 5:31pm on 15 Oct 2009, DenistheGenius wrote:

    sorry to disappoint, but i lay down my sword for this round.

    i will say, C'mon Ireland! shove some football justice right up Blatter's cash-hole!

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  • 221. At 5:32pm on 15 Oct 2009, Holloway2Holland wrote:

    176, I'm honoured.
    To the Man Utd die hards, Here,s my 2 cents. (But it's probably worth half that)
    Becham - Definetly should be in the squad, his vision & experience is priceless, his attitude to getting back in the squad and his acceptance of playing a diminished, although just as important role, has really impressed me.

    Foster - As someone else already said VDS will be back soon, so he'll be on the bench for the rest of the season. Plus there are rumours that your looking to get a new top class keeper in, if SAf doesn't trust him, then why should we? Or do you think SAf is wrong? (Blasphemy to you lot)

    Neville - Adam we've been here before.

    Hargreaves - If he gets fit and enough games under his belt. then I have to agree he should be there in SA

    Rooney - Is he our best player? maybe. Can he be a liability? Sometimes, he still needs to grow up a bit, that will make him better. Is he the player we'd miss the most? Definetly.

    Ferdinand - A rusty patch, but more than capable, I don,t doubt he's more than good enough.

    Scholes - In his day, he was the man, but now?....Please.........Behave yourselves.

    Now count to 10 so I can run for cover.

    ps Sorry again bluehellsbells for this on topic post.

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  • 222. At 5:32pm on 15 Oct 2009, GazUtd wrote:


    Trotter your wish is my command...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-vWr8zr588


    Word has reached me that MI6 may have planted more bugging devices and there could be another on the way. Apparently their last spy died of boredom while listening to a speech so they had to get a new recruit.

    He's a disillusioned Southerner who has been promised a life up North with all the junk food he can eat.

    I'll keep you posted.

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  • 223. At 5:42pm on 15 Oct 2009, TrotterUSA wrote:

    Oh dear, it's as good now as it was then, brilliant! The next installment is eagerly anticipated and doubtless well worth the wait!

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  • 224. At 5:49pm on 15 Oct 2009, JamesRupert wrote:

    There's a few names that are being constantly left out

    Joe Cole should be a cert if fit
    Paul Robinson is far more experienced than Joe Hart and would be more reliable in an emergency
    Jagielka should be our reserve centre back
    Walcott scored a hattrick against Croatia and should be ahead of swp in the pecking order

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  • 225. At 5:54pm on 15 Oct 2009, Chakawell55 wrote:

    I think England have a problem with David Beckham. He is a hugely gifted player who is usually worth at least one set-piece goal, but he is a bit slow, and generally roams the right wing. England has three(!) blindingly fast right wingers (Walcott, Lennon and Wright-Philips) who can get behind defences, and surely the on-form one must play. Where, then, do you put Beckham? Without one of these guys, the team looks to me a bit sluggish (see 'My-back-pocket's 2nd formation, for example). Maybe a right-midfield spot, with some very hard workers around him, but I'm not sure.

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  • 226. At 5:57pm on 15 Oct 2009, Spaced Invader wrote:

    'Green, James, Hart; Johnson, Brown, Rio, JT, Upson, Lescott, Cashley; Gerrard, Lampard, Barry, Beckham, J. Cole, Lennon, Hargreaves, Milner; Rooney, Heskey, Crouch, Defoe, Walcott.'


    That looks a really squad, well-balanced - finding myself in strong agreement! Hart may as well go for the experience, the third keeper wont ever play anyway, so better taking someone younger than Robinson. Still not totally convinced that Upson is international class, and Woodgate would be the ideal option.

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  • 227. At 5:57pm on 15 Oct 2009, TommyO wrote:

    205. At 5:01pm on 15 Oct 2009, tommyb1982 wrote:

    TommyO's pretty reasonable actually, you just can't see it past your massive Manc eyebrows.



    they're not eyebrows - they're adam's tribute to Gary Neville's moustache

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  • 228. At 5:58pm on 15 Oct 2009, Holloway2Holland wrote:

    Zoot, I too am a big fan of JW and believe under the guidance of Wenger could grow to be a special player, that said I'm afraid that I have to agree with JDR that this WC may just come too soon. But of course there's a long way to go yet.

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  • 229. At 6:00pm on 15 Oct 2009, Kamarastash wrote:

    6. At 1:28pm on 15 Oct 2009, tomefccam wrote:
    take owen, he's mustard

    I don't care if he's Muhammed 'I'm hard' Bruce Lee. Your mans going down in the 4th...and when I say the 4th I mean the 4th. Now you get me tomefccam don't you?

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  • 230. At 6:05pm on 15 Oct 2009, Holloway2Holland wrote:

    Re 221, I completly forget about Owen, but then again it seems that Mr Capello has too, so you can forgive me for that.

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  • 231. At 6:25pm on 15 Oct 2009, Mightymojo wrote:

    Another good 'un Robbo, I must admit it was a little strange watching the game knowing we were already through. I think it's impossible for us fans or you media folk not to put pressure on the lads by saying " we can win it", but at the same time we have at the moment a group of players who at least seem to know exactly what they're MEANT to be doing, which is a vast improvement on the last 2 regimes. We still have 8 months to get them to do it.

    I too would take Beckham, but he wouldn't get anywhere near the starting line-up. I don't think we can take Heskey & C Cole (or Lennon & SWP for that matter), With Emile & Aaron Nureyev the men in possession.

    I'm also looking forward to seeing who makes a late break for the squad. I've got a sneaky feeling over Gary Cahill, especially if Lescott doesn't get his act together. Wilshere's time will come, but i wouldn't rush him. Despite what he says, i'm pretty sure Theo's world cup experience didn't do him any favours, especially in the immediate aftermath.

    Is anyone else worried for JDR's mental Health? I mean he comes on here every week to complain about the same things, despite knowing as well as us who love it they're coming. I think i speak for quite a lot of us when i say that the irrerevance, banter and "base humour" is what we like about this blog, which is why we still read it. If we didn't like it:

    We'd.Stop.Reading.

    As a Liverpool fan born in London, now living in Liverpool, i'm never short of a bit of friendly banter, and wouldn't have it any other way. I'd like to think even Adam & MBP could go for a bevvy with the Tommy's (prob best for an England game) and not actually come to blows......

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  • 232. At 6:28pm on 15 Oct 2009, Mightymojo wrote:

    Kamarastash, you have made me write LOL for the 1st time ever. I actually nearly spilt me tea.

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  • 233. At 6:33pm on 15 Oct 2009, jacksofbuxton wrote:

    lost your medicine again jdr?

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  • 234. At 6:34pm on 15 Oct 2009, M wrote:

    This squad is far better than McNulty's.

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  • 235. At 6:36pm on 15 Oct 2009, Jack wrote:

    Seeing as we're all picking England Squads...
    R.Green, P.Robinson, D.James
    G.Johnson, W.Bridge, R.Ferdinand, M.Upson, G.Cahill, P.Jagielka, M.Richards
    A.Lennon, G.Barry, S.Gerrard, F.Lampard, O.Hargreaves, J.Cole, A.Johnson
    W.Rooney, J.Defoe, P.Crouch, C.Cole, K.Davies

    Bit different I guess...

    As for David Beckham getting man of the match, a bit like Ryan Giggs getting player of the season, dont understand it...

    Oh well...
    I hope they dont seed the play-offs that would be a bit of a joke... I'd like to see Russia, Ireland and Bosnia there.. plus the winner of a Portugal v France battle...

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  • 236. At 6:38pm on 15 Oct 2009, Jack wrote:

    Woops, forgot Theo Walcott in my squad!

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  • 237. At 6:44pm on 15 Oct 2009, Holloway2Holland wrote:

    JackariSagna, you forgot the current captin too, & unfortunatly Portugal v France is not possible due to the seedind. (******* FIFA)

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  • 238. At 6:48pm on 15 Oct 2009, Zulu Warrior wrote:

    Loved the vid Gaz. Great that its no modded. The punters posts on here are begiinning to take over from the disections that were on the Bose blog.
    More please.
    Can I suggest a Gogfather one with Fabio.

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  • 239. At 7:01pm on 15 Oct 2009, Jack wrote:

    Holloway2Holland I know i forgot JT... I dunno who I'd give the captaincy too... but I'd rather have Rio, Upson or Jagielka than John Terry... just do not rate him... and yeah the seeding is absolutely atrocious.. the world cup is available for the world... the chance that countries have to come out of nowhere and enjoy the limelight... North Korea 66, Cameroon 90, South Korea 02 to name but a few... but thats the way FIFA works.. of course you need seeding at the finals themselves... but in the playoffs its runner up vs runner up.. if France and Portugal where good enough to deserve seeding... they'd already be there... I guess a way to rearrange the finals seedings is to have the group winners as top seeds in terms of the European clubs... but there we go...

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  • 240. At 7:02pm on 15 Oct 2009, TommyB wrote:

    Mojo, it's probably best we watch Hamburger SV v Gillingham in a pre-season friendly. England games and England blogs are an equally ghastly nightmare because of our club-based agendas.

    I have some questions on the subject though:

    How can a man be thicker than his own tache?

    Can we return this debate to its subterranean origins, or merely Bury its subject?

    Gary Neville... true or false?

    Next teaser please, Trotter!

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  • 241. At 7:03pm on 15 Oct 2009, Jack wrote:

    European countries*... also how about like, for a one off every country in the world is drawn into a huge knockout competition played over a couple of years... with no seedings like a massive international FA Cup... that would be interesting...

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  • 242. At 7:09pm on 15 Oct 2009, Mightymojo wrote:

    Totally agree playoffs shouldn't be seeded - Portugal v France would be much better for a place in the finals than in some dull dead-rubber group game.

    Doesn't seem an entirely fair system to me - i mean Scotland's group were at an instant disadvantage as they had less teams, therefore less chance of securing a runners-up spot. I'm not at all surprised to see FIFA backtracking on what they said - have they ever had a good idea and followed it through? - but i for one hope Ireland, Bosnia, Russia and France get through. I know Russia & France are big teams, but Russia play progressive football, and I think France will able to pull one magic game out of their asses.

    re:235, if Andy Johnson is in the England squad, then i'll streak naked @ the Opening Ceremony

    Re 240, as someone who spent many formative years within a Brick's throw of Priestfield, i would suggest staying the hell away from Gillingham in the Germans are in town!

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  • 243. At 7:14pm on 15 Oct 2009, Starburst_995 wrote:

    #220

    Seconded, Denis. Mind the ROI shoudn't fear anyone. They're on a good vein of form and can call on Shay Given and Robbie Keane among others.

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  • 244. At 7:16pm on 15 Oct 2009, Mightymojo wrote:

    I've just seen this:

    http://www.caughtoffside.com/2009/10/15/worst-dive-you-will-see-this-season-video/

    and changed my mind - France replaced by Ukraine, Voronin & all!

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  • 245. At 7:17pm on 15 Oct 2009, Zulu Warrior wrote:

    If England had finished second in the group, would you still maintain that the playoffs should be unseeded? as #242 #235 among many other posts.

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  • 246. At 7:22pm on 15 Oct 2009, TommyB wrote:

    Mojo, we should meet on the Reeperbahn for a few bevies before that fixture. I have a feeling you know your way around, and could handle the bricks.

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  • 247. At 7:23pm on 15 Oct 2009, Holloway2Holland wrote:

    239 Jack, fair enough about JT, it is after all your squad

    240 Tommyb, not everyone has that club bias problem, luckily for me Le Arse are almost all foreign, but you're right it can get tedius. Although it does keep the banter flowing.

    242 themightymojo All the other 2nd placed teams had the results of there games against the bottom teams, mostly 6 pts, subtracted from their final pts total, therefore having no advantage over Scotlands group.

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  • 248. At 7:27pm on 15 Oct 2009, TommyB wrote:

    H2H... I felt I was kind of neutral on that one. I used it more as a vehicle to post some rather (in hindsight) surreal anti-GN propaganda.

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  • 249. At 7:32pm on 15 Oct 2009, TommyB wrote:

    And as for seeding, I'm sure we covered this in the Champions League blog a few weeks back, but FIFA is as FIFA does. I have to agree with Whitley here as well about the playoff between the Uruguayans and the Argentines. Tedious dross. I'm not sure Portugal v France would necessarily be much different, except the comedy tackling wouldn't be as evident.

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  • 250. At 7:34pm on 15 Oct 2009, Holloway2Holland wrote:

    tommyb, there's no such thing as surreal anti-GN propaganda, it's all good, and I don't consider you one of the biased.
    I'm out for a bit, peace y'all.

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  • 251. At 7:37pm on 15 Oct 2009, TrotterUSA wrote:

    Tommy, ok, the old ones are the best...

    If a bra is an upper decker flopper stopper
    And a jock strap is a lower decker knacker jacker
    And a gilt-edged toilet roller is a super dooper pooper scooper
    What do you call a punch drunk Japanese whose father has dissentry?

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  • 252. At 7:40pm on 15 Oct 2009, TrotterUSA wrote:

    This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the House Rules.

  • 253. At 7:43pm on 15 Oct 2009, Mightymojo wrote:

    H2H, Thanks for clearing that up. I had wondered why no-one else, particularly Scottish, mentioned it.

    Good 1878, hard as you may find it to believe, i probably would say the same if it was England. The groups seedings gave the big teams their advantage. If they can't capitalise on that, then they shouldn't be rewarded.

    Tommy, I'll see ya there!

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  • 254. At 7:51pm on 15 Oct 2009, TommyB wrote:

    Love it Trotter. Sounds like pidgin!

    Ok, what is this in pidgin:
    "liklik rat"?

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  • 255. At 7:51pm on 15 Oct 2009, waynerooneyismygod wrote:

    Thank god for Capello. I can't beleive people actually want to take Owen to the World Cup. What has he done in the last 2 or 3 years to deserve to be in the squad?

    Moving on, i'd definitely put James Milner on the plane, he can use both feet, bit of skill, decent final ball. He's looked good when he's had a chance as well. Much better than SWP for my money.

    On the seedings for the play offs - DISGUSTING. Portugal and France will end up top seeds for the qualifying groups, top seeds for the play offs, then top seeds when the groups are drawn. Next time UEFA or FIFA talk about giving the smaller teams a chance i hope this is thrown back at them. They might as well not bother with the qualification groups at all. COME ON IRELAND. Whoever they draw i'll be cheering them on as well as every other "second seed" in the draw.

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  • 256. At 7:54pm on 15 Oct 2009, WhitleyBayWonTheVase wrote:

    Oh and those that say 'Darren Bent' - I'll happily take bets with them that he'll not be in the squad for South Africa.

    This is the only man invited to the stadium last night who didn't turn up - because he preferred to concentrate on the Liverpool match this weekend.

    Steve Bruce clearly didn't share that view. lol

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  • 257. At 7:54pm on 15 Oct 2009, TommyB wrote:

    The answer is... mouse!

    Tenkyu, gut nait!

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  • 258. At 7:55pm on 15 Oct 2009, TrotterUSA wrote:

    hopefully you caught last line pre-moderation!

    liklik rat? Is it something to do with Adam's campaign to bring back Mr. Neville?

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  • 259. At 7:57pm on 15 Oct 2009, TrotterUSA wrote:

    ahhh I thought it would be a hairy something, like a bushy eyebrow or a tache!

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  • 260. At 7:58pm on 15 Oct 2009, bluecueball wrote:

    James Foster Hart

    Johnson Brown
    Terry Lescott
    Ferdinand Upson
    Cole Bridge

    Lennon Wright-Phillips
    Lampard Beckham
    Barry Gerrard
    J.Cole Milner

    Rooney Crouch
    Defoe Owen if fit/ Heskey

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  • 261. At 8:11pm on 15 Oct 2009, ShotsPaauul wrote:

    Was really disappointed after the loss to Ukraine- while it meant Croatia didn't qualify, if they had got the play-off spot then Portugal would have been 5th of the 8 teams competing and could have faced one of the top teams. As it is, they're almost certainly through :/

    Also very surprised to see no mention of Bent- he's on great form and has done more to stake his claim to a place than Heskey has.

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  • 262. At 8:17pm on 15 Oct 2009, Jack wrote:

    Re: #242 - It's not Andy Johnson in my squad it's Adam Johnson.. I just think he's a decent left winger and could offer something down the left hand side

    Re: #245 - yes, if England did finish second I would still maintain the playoffs should be unseeded... if we managed to balls it up and finish second we wouldnt deserve a cushy playoff match...

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  • 263. At 8:33pm on 15 Oct 2009, urbanbushmonkey wrote:

    Mate.. i've avoided your 'blogs' like the plague, and i'm starting to wish i'd taken the same course of action with this one. It's badly written, unfunny to the point of being embarassing and pretty much complete and utter rubbish.

    This is why i'm glad I don't pay a license fee, if I had to fund your wages I think i'd end up topping myself.

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  • 264. At 8:37pm on 15 Oct 2009, TommyB wrote:

    Monkey... no need to go bananas!

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  • 265. At 8:39pm on 15 Oct 2009, TrotterUSA wrote:

    Let's not beat about the urban bush eh Monkey!

    Robbo, I don't pay a licence fee either but would happily do so if it's all that could allow me to keep reading your blog. If I couldn't, well, I wouldn't top myself but, you get the gist.

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  • 266. At 8:40pm on 15 Oct 2009, Mightymojo wrote:

    Adam Johnson's a good player, but i think like with Wilshere & Hart, it's a tournament too soon. But it's true, a continuation of current form, a January move to a top team (sorry Robbo) or a speight of injuries, and i think he could do well. I'd pick him ahead of Downing.

    PS The People of SA thank you for sparing them the site of my naked arse taking out Sepp Blatter!

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  • 267. At 8:41pm on 15 Oct 2009, TommyB wrote:

    I'd pick my nose ahead of Downing

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  • 268. At 8:42pm on 15 Oct 2009, adampsb wrote:

    #263 - you'd better hope teh moderators don't send the detection vans round lad...

    None of your whinging here please - at least JDR pays for the right to complain about how we re wasting his licence fee. And anyway income tax also goes somewhat to the BBC so you are directly funding the wages.

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  • 269. At 8:44pm on 15 Oct 2009, Jack wrote:

    Fair enough, deffo too soon for Wilshere.. I mean he needs to be playing for Arsenal... but I dunno I could squeeze Adam Johnson on the plane...
    as well as Kevin Davies... I do not understanf why Davies isnt getting England call ups... he scores more than Heskey? and he's so lively and not afraid of getting stuck in... him and Rooney up front could frighten the life out of defenders with Waynes determination coupled with his ability and Davies' aggression and the way he chucks him self about

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  • 270. At 8:46pm on 15 Oct 2009, Jack wrote:

    England XI with a difference...
    ----------------------------Green---------------------------------------
    Johnson----------Upson------------------Jagielka-------------Bridge


    Lennon-----------Gerrard----------------Barry---------Walcott/Johnson

    ------------------Rooney---------------Davies

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  • 271. At 8:47pm on 15 Oct 2009, TrotterUSA wrote:

    I'm with Adam on this, Robbo makes how much? 3 million a year? So, if thirty million pay for a licence, it's only 10p each, well worth it!

    And Tommy, I'd pick your nose before Downing.

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  • 272. At 8:50pm on 15 Oct 2009, TommyB wrote:

    Jackari, I agree about Davies, and would definitely give him a try. The one concern I have is that he'd give about 800 free kicks away per match, especially if we get a Latin American or Iberian referee. They penalise Crouch purely for being extra tall. God knows how they'd feel about a big lump like Davies with all of his many elbows and his massive swede.

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  • 273. At 8:50pm on 15 Oct 2009, TrotterUSA wrote:

    Jackari...another vote for KD, brilliant, keep up the good work. See if you can fit Cahill and Taylor in too if you have Fabio's ear!

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  • 274. At 8:51pm on 15 Oct 2009, adampsb wrote:

    We have Fabio's ear - why do you think he never picks any Bolton players.

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  • 275. At 8:55pm on 15 Oct 2009, TrotterUSA wrote:

    steady on Adam, he's called up Cahill twice and asked for KD to be on stand-by when all the others were dropping like flies so it's only a matter of time and of that we have plenty. A glowing performance at OT this weekend where he skins Vidic and Rio, sets up Matty for a goal, then Cahill, after putting Berba in his back pocket for 108 minutes, climbs above the lot of 'em to head home a bullet of a winner and the seating assignments will change!

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  • 276. At 8:58pm on 15 Oct 2009, adampsb wrote:

    Trotter have you been doing secret CIA mind control experiments again. EVeryone knows only those wearinga red shirt at Old TRafford are allowed to score during Fergie Time. I mean the nerve of it - should have VDS in goal on Saturday anyway so you've got no chance

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  • 277. At 9:00pm on 15 Oct 2009, TrotterUSA wrote:

    VDS won't be able to stay awake that long, it's just more good news for the Trotter hopeful!

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  • 278. At 9:04pm on 15 Oct 2009, Jack wrote:

    Trotter I put Gary Cahill in my original squad.. a few comments back...

    Can I ask you your opinion on Fabrice Muamba? I alwasy thought he looked a good prospect at Arsenal... jw how he was shaping up at Bolton?

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  • 279. At 9:23pm on 15 Oct 2009, tonytaba wrote:

    Dont take rio and we might have a shout!
    Hes not world class and against a better side his mistakes will be enough to knock us out.
    Beckham first on the plane every time. need some pace and mix up front so whatever stikers cannot be the same. Too 1 dimensional against Belarus with crouch and the villa boy. so its Rooney and best striker at the time. Hopefully hargreaves be fit,the best player at the world cup 2006 for England.

    Green

    G.neville Upson JT Bridge
    Beckham Gerard Hargreaves Milner
    Rooney Joe cole




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  • 280. At 9:37pm on 15 Oct 2009, Jack wrote:

    G.Neville.... Neville is useless...

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  • 281. At 9:42pm on 15 Oct 2009, SuperDannyGabbidon wrote:

    Good blog I thought but would have to make some changes
    Goalkeepers: Green and James - in my opinion both certainties and will be fascisnating to watch who takes the Number 1 shirt going into that first game
    The third keepers a tough one but in my opinion if Chris Kirkland can get himself fit and in good form he should be taken, if not I would take Paul Robinson as an experienced back up keeper.
    Would definately not take Hart or Foster. Hart is too experienced for me and Foster just plain awful at times (sorry Man United fans)

    Defenders: Johnson, Terry, Rio and Cole (Automatic starters why change something that is obviously working and in the months before the World Cup Johnson will have Benitez and Capello working on his defensive insurance
    Upson - good experienced back up in my opinion got to be on the plane
    Lescott/Woodgate/Bridge/Tomkins - One of these four if I'm being honest I reckon Lescott will go due to his versatility but wouldnt like to see that as he often goes missing for England. Don't think we should take Bridge but wouldnt mind seeing him as back up. Woodgate and Tomkins if they put together good seasons would like to see them on the plane. Many of you will be saying Why Tomkins? but having seen him at West Ham the lads obviously got potential and can also play at right back so if he has a good season alongside Upson why not?
    Phil Neville - Again many of you will be shaking your heads but I would take Phil just for his versatility and leadership. In my opinion England lack a real experienced leader and Phil just offers that as well as versatility and intelligence in defence. (As long as we have no Romania moments :))

    Midfield: Barry, Lampard, Gerrard the three that have played in qualifying should go as its working although Barry shouldnt be in the first 11 if Hargreaves is fit so Hargreaves should go too (unless injured if so Scott Parker should go as he is dependable).
    Beckham - Beckham should go as again he is a leader and does have that quality drooling off him that we may need at a World Cup.
    Lennon and Milner - Like to see these two go as both work hard and have that quality as well. If we can work on Lennons delivery which Redknapp seems to be doing he would make defences even at International level wet themselves.
    Joe Cole - IF FIT, if not take a punt on Adam Johnson as we need to take a real flair player in my opinion. We can say Lennon, Ashley Young, Wright-Phillips play well but they have nothing on Cole. At his best unstoppable. The lad oozes quality. If hes not fit I would honestly take Adam Johnson who lets be honest despite playing Championship football is the best out and out replacement for Cole and has that quality like Joey had at his age.

    Strikers: Rooney - (No brainer)
    Defoe, Heskey and Walcott - Walcott can double as a winger as well so would take him. Jermain despite the hatred I have for him will grudgingly scored goals if needed and Heskey does well for fellow strikers
    by the way loved the Heskey quote though :)
    One of Carlton Cole/Crouch/Agbonlahor/Owen - At the moment I would take Cole, because he is better than Crouch and has more flair. Agbonlahor has pace but has yet to really produce it at International level so would be a gamble, whereas we cant take Owen's fitness as a certainty.
    So overall hears the squad I would take (fingers crossed)
    GK - Green/James/Kirkland
    DEF - Johnson/Rio/Terry/A Cole/Upson/Woodgate/P Neville
    MID - Barry/Gerrard/Lampard/Milner/Lennon/Beckham/J Cole/Hargreaves
    STR - Rooney/Defoe/Heskey/Walcott/C Cole

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  • 282. At 9:54pm on 15 Oct 2009, SuperDannyGabbidon wrote:

    Hart is too inexperienced sorry

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  • 283. At 10:23pm on 15 Oct 2009, GazUtd wrote:


    MI6 have just been on to me. They have got a new JDR video.

    Unfortunately they couldn't get any audio on this but they have had a lip-reading expert look at it and have manage to sub-title what was being said.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opf2zydDsH4

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  • 284. At 10:29pm on 15 Oct 2009, bigli wrote:

    80. At 2:48pm on 15 Oct 2009, Second Choice Ssshteve wrote:

    #78
    Are FIFA rankings a joke?

    No they are based on results - what else can you base them on ?
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    Then presumably on the 16th April 2001 the best team in the world were Australia, having played 4 games in a week, winning them all and scoring 66 goals whilst conceding none including a world record (for a competative international match) 22-0 win against Tonga then going on, only 2 days later, to beat that record with a 31-0 win against American Samoa.
    Were Australia the best team in the world at the time, of course not, they were just up against unbelievably poor opposition so basing rankings on results is of course wrong.
    However, they can't be based too well on results as the current #9 team in the rankings is Croatia who failed to even qualify for the play offs behind the #25 ranked team, Ukraine, whilst conceding 9 goals in 2 games against England who are only 2 places above them

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  • 285. At 10:58pm on 15 Oct 2009, Spitfire wrote:

    It also matters what rank your opposition is. participating in and winning various regional competitions also helps.

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  • 286. At 10:58pm on 15 Oct 2009, Zootmac wrote:

    283 Gaz

    Just tuned in, briefly, before retiring. Alas, the link doesn't open up here, apparently because of copyright reasons.

    Trotter

    Missed out on the solution to your Japanese guy with the dad who had dysentery. No matter - never had much time for the mentality of the Kramakhasi pa lot.

    Off now, before the moderator bans I.

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  • 287. At 11:01pm on 15 Oct 2009, oldstafford wrote:

    Gaz Same here...

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  • 288. At 11:04pm on 15 Oct 2009, Holloway2Holland wrote:

    And the Oscar for the catergory Short film with added captions goes to.......

    Ha HA, yes indeed Gaz, step up and take a bow mate, another masterpiece.

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  • 289. At 11:10pm on 15 Oct 2009, GazUtd wrote:


    Damn Channel 4 copyright! For those of you outside these shores you could use a UK proxy server to have a look if you are that interested.

    I'm just saying is all.

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  • 290. At 11:14pm on 15 Oct 2009, TrotterUSA wrote:

    Ohhhh, I always like a good laugh after I fall off the treadmill and there's two waiting here, Gaz, brilliant again, thank-you for all the time and effort that goes into entertaining us rabble!

    Zoot, brilliant "kramakhasi pa lot" and an education, next time I have dysentry at least I'll know how to spell it if not how to cure it.

    It was... a slap happy appyJ (rearrange as appropriate) with a carp (rearrange as appropriate) happy pappy!

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  • 291. At 11:17pm on 15 Oct 2009, TrotterUSA wrote:

    (I'm just not sure whether it was modded for the "c" word or the "J" word).

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  • 292. At 11:22pm on 15 Oct 2009, Holloway2Holland wrote:

    Thanks for the crypted repost Trotter, The original was modded to fast. Very funny, would make Eminem's tongue twist.

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  • 293. At 11:30pm on 15 Oct 2009, Spitfire wrote:

    That was brilliant Gaz.

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  • 294. At 11:33pm on 15 Oct 2009, Robbo Robson wrote:

    Re; Jagielka. Didn't know he was back so soon... I'd have him in for Upson. Cap likes Upson mind so I can go whistle.

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  • 295. At 11:34pm on 15 Oct 2009, TrotterUSA wrote:

    sorry about this, but back to the topic, yes, of course I know it's getting flogged to death, the whole idea of staying on topic is old...but just briefly....I watched the first half again and Jimmy Bullard was with the non-playing fringe lads in the stands, I rate him highly and if he's fit he offers a great deal....what an engine! He could be to 2010 what Nobby was to '66!

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  • 296. At 11:36pm on 15 Oct 2009, Robbo Robson wrote:

    Darren Bent? No. Little hot streak'll be over before you know it. Hot? What am I saying? He runs cold and lukewarm that lad

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  • 297. At 11:49pm on 15 Oct 2009, collie21 wrote:

    Good lord I am late to the game. I have been enjoying your blog more than I usually do of late, do you care? I doubt it. But was that a hint of Irony in regard to the cheif football writer by any chance? I am amazed saddened and wound up thinking he needs a break as the term numpty with Mc in front of it is now seen as an offensive term on 606 and your post won't get published with it. What is the point in offering journalistic opinion if you can't stand to be contradicted....
    However as for your squad Robbo delighted no M Owen included...surprised you didn't put Australia's answer to larger in it, but then I would have to say thanks for the Irish vote. I reckon we can draw just about anybody because we draw with everybody.

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  • 298. At 00:02am on 16 Oct 2009, collie21 wrote:

    62. At 2:26pm on 15 Oct 2009, Whiteoutloud wrote:

    BentleyFrom40andLennonfrom2 wrote:
    "I'd like to see us take a surprise element to SA next year. A player who teams won't be able to anticipate."
    A bit like Sven taking a 17 year old Walcott to Germany and then not playing him or giving him a chance even after we lost Owen. It is just wasting a position that could be filled by another player more deserving.
    ----------------------------------------
    I have heard that that is capellos plan B actually, Take Walcott again and not give him a chance after you loose Rooney to a broken foot he gets for kicking a hording on his way off the field after the red card he gets for stamping on Ronaldos testicles.

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  • 299. At 00:06am on 16 Oct 2009, TommyB wrote:

    Another good piece of work there, Gaz. Had to take my laptop into international waters to view it, but worth the pneumonia. Father Jack will presumably be Weenie_Abu in the next installment?

    Collie, not a popular opinion around here but I don't mind Phil McNulty's blogs. Sometimes he talks reactionary jive, and sometimes good sense. I just can't stand the moderation. It's like being on Newsround. Anyway, maybe it's not the auntie censoring the word "McN****y" but Maccy D's who are sick of their good name being sullied on these pages? Anyone for thermidor?

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  • 300. At 00:08am on 16 Oct 2009, collie21 wrote:

    83. At 2:54pm on 15 Oct 2009, Second Choice Ssshteve wrote:

    Would those advocating non seeded groups also like to see CL groups consisting of say..

    Real Madrid
    Man Utd
    Inter Milan
    Bayern

    Probably not if you support one of those clubs !
    ----------------------------------------------
    What an incredible group and incredible games would be provided, wow yeah would love to see it.
    Group B could be Barcelona Chelsea Fiorentina and Lyon. Group C Arsenal Liverpool mareille and Sevilla , what the hell is wrong with all that?

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  • 301. At 00:13am on 16 Oct 2009, TommyB wrote:

    Wasn't that the point of the old two group system from a few years back?

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  • 302. At 00:32am on 16 Oct 2009, collie21 wrote:

    I read most of these comments, I hope you all get the following playing in one game..
    James, Brown, Woodgate,Jagielka Neveille. Beckham, Gerrard, Hargreaves, Joe Cole, M Owen, Heskey, ( subs ......

    Brown woodgate jag, hargreaves, Cole and owen would all be so badly injured without anyone touching them, that the game would have to be called off and awarded to the oppostion. Gerrard would probably get a red card and a groin strain, Which would serve your blushes as you already be 4 or 5 down due to completely useless strikers, over rated midfielders and a general inability of English players to tell the truth for the good of the team....the team the team...... and not listen to what the body is telling them. Mainly that it is broken and you shouldn't play football today.

    However I think you will at least make the quarter finals if Capello doesn't take the greater part of the players named above. To be honest, it is fairer to call for woodgates inclusion than Micheal Owens

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  • 303. At 00:35am on 16 Oct 2009, collie21 wrote:

    stunning that most people don't actually know how fifa rankings work

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  • 304. At 00:38am on 16 Oct 2009, collie21 wrote:

    TommyB I think a wild group like those would be much more appealing than the dross we see in the group stages now

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  • 305. At 00:46am on 16 Oct 2009, Jedra wrote:

    Agree with your squad but wouldn't take Rio - never liked the arrogant so and so - vastly overrated in my opinion.

    As for Beckham getting MOTM yesterday - I think Brucie was correct. Until he came on the pitch we were pretty average - looked like a team that knew we had qualified and didn't really want to risk it. Even if you take away his obvious skill and passing abilities, the sheer passion that Beckham has for England seems to spread through the team when he comes on.

    @303 - "stunning that most people don't actually know how fifa rankings work" - personally I would be even more stunned if anyone knew how anything worked that comes out of FIFA!

    Can't wait for the summer and seeing who is actually fit to pick - I'm going to get my old boots out of the loft just in case!

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  • 306. At 00:46am on 16 Oct 2009, U14174696 wrote:

    If you're going to consider tired Mr Heskey up front, wouldn't we do better with Kevin Davis. He guts it out week after week with minimal support from a very mediocre supporting cast - just what you need when the going gets a little difficult in the first rounds of the tournament and things aren't going as well as they might .......

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  • 307. At 01:01am on 16 Oct 2009, cemufc wrote:

    I would take michael owen even if he only had one leg! you just can not leave a sriker out like him with the goal scoring record he has at the very highest level. The likes of Milner, Defoe, Crouch, Lennon must all go as they can all do a job and make an impact on games. But please Mr Capello DO NOT take stewart downing!!

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  • 308. At 01:47am on 16 Oct 2009, serpentdanslherbe wrote:

    First thing. Three or four of all the contenders will be injured this season.Can't see Joe Cole or Owen ever being fit enough for 90 mins a la Mr Capello ever again. Rio's recent health is also a worry.
    Second thing. There's always at least one surprise player picked for every tournament. Wilshere possibly? And given Adam Johnson's possible departure to the PL at Christmas ( sorry Robbo ) he's another possibility because he has a left foot.
    Third thing. I think FC demands balance so Downing, if fit , will go and also if Ashley Young plays on the right ( and he is right-footed ) he's a much better option than Lennon. SWP has no chance at all.
    Wish we had a left back though.Cashley will be targeted by the big boys - a bit like when Wimbledon used to play teams with little full backs ( John Beresford, anyone ?)
    It's a worry isn't it chaps?

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  • 309. At 02:53am on 16 Oct 2009, tommychina wrote:

    The robot is more important than rooney. don't get me wrong i think about the goal that rooney scored for everton against arsenal on a daily basis, often for while, but mr gerrard holds the key to the world cup lock. rooney is amazing but gerrard is a king i believe that he wants to win more than rooney. gerrard has a grace about him, rooney should not be let in a house.

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  • 310. At 03:25am on 16 Oct 2009, TrotterUSA wrote:

    TommyB, You probably have a few lobsters hanging off your lap top after your excursion into the deep! However, no thermidor for me thanks, I'm in the mood for a bisque, always was a bit of a separatist, especially in the hours before a match at OT.

    Collie, you make a very good point. If 50% of the squad is injured 75% of the time, we might run into a problem or two!

    BolleauxUSA, hello neighbour, as an aside, is your name the plural of borucs in Flemish? Your endorsement of Kevin Davies is highly supported by me and at least two of the 300+ posters here, you obviously make a lot of sense, we need more wisdom like yours on Robbo's blog!

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  • 311. At 03:35am on 16 Oct 2009, My-back-pocket wrote:

    are we still debating if Scholes is gonna be on the plane to SA?...

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  • 312. At 03:37am on 16 Oct 2009, My-back-pocket wrote:

    309 - u been on the sauce tonight?...

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  • 313. At 03:38am on 16 Oct 2009, TrotterUSA wrote:

    Jackari, Muamba's a good un, might take a while for him to settle in but he looks better every time he plays and the club is high on him so it bodes well.

    Zoot, sorry, I've been looking into dysentery, I mean researching the correct spelling of dysentery and of course I screwed it up again. I think my keyboard has it and I should probably eat sponge cake for a week.

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  • 314. At 03:42am on 16 Oct 2009, TrotterUSA wrote:

    311..the consensus seems to be that his passport has expired and there's a 12 month wait for a new one. I'd love to have him if he'd go though, all those big pitches and Scholes spreading the ball all over to our nippy little wing men, perfect for him.

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  • 315. At 03:45am on 16 Oct 2009, My-back-pocket wrote:

    314 - im sure we can sneak him into one of the suitcases carryin the player laptops,wags hair extensions,dvd's,pole dancers,games consoles....

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  • 316. At 03:51am on 16 Oct 2009, TrotterUSA wrote:

    or just put the hair extensions on him and pretend he's Cheryl Cole?

    http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00643/Cheryl_Cole_643692a.jpg

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  • 317. At 03:56am on 16 Oct 2009, My-back-pocket wrote:

    oooh ek he can be the ginger one out of Girls aloud...next days papers coverd in pictures of Cashley and her together...while the players come home in shame from failure to even get past the group stages..

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  • 318. At 03:58am on 16 Oct 2009, My-back-pocket wrote:

    looking forward to a thumping on sat? :D

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  • 319. At 04:03am on 16 Oct 2009, TrotterUSA wrote:

    We can't lose either way, a monumental upset or a predictable and easily accepted defeat! I'll have no complaints if they all put in a shift.

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  • 320. At 04:10am on 16 Oct 2009, My-back-pocket wrote:

    upset at old trafford..hmmm..unlikely me thinks...i predict a 3-1 win...i hope Scholes gets a hatrick :D

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  • 321. At 04:25am on 16 Oct 2009, TrotterUSA wrote:

    It's encouraging that you're giving us 1 goal.

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  • 322. At 05:36am on 16 Oct 2009, The Chelsea Fan wrote:

    No mention of Joe Cole. He's got a lot to prove after injury, but there's plenty of time for that. SWP out - Joe in.

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  • 323. At 06:38am on 16 Oct 2009, WordsofWisdom wrote:

    Not English but here's my team anyway:

    Foster

    Neville Brown Rio Cole

    Beckham Hargreaves Carrick Scholes (Welbeck if Scholesy won't go)

    Rooney Owen


    Not sure about Cole at LB though....looks like a weak link!

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  • 324. At 07:00am on 16 Oct 2009, thedamnedunited wrote:

    No way Heskey or Carlton Cole - Darren Bent would be a better bet. Also, Owen is still a class player. If he can have a few more games for Man U and stay injury free, I would def take him.

    My squad : James, Green, Robinson; Johnson, Ferdinand, Terry, Cashly, Lescott, Upson, Brown; Lennon, Beckham, Gerrard, Lampard, Barry, Milner, Hargreaves, J Cole; Rooney; Bent; Defoe; Crouch; Owen

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  • 325. At 08:22am on 16 Oct 2009, Bobby M's Barmy Army wrote:

    Why do i keep seeing Hargreaves in the squad ?

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  • 326. At 08:43am on 16 Oct 2009, TommyB wrote:

    We should put Purple Aki up front. He's scare the bejeesus out of our more muscular opponents.

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  • 327. At 09:10am on 16 Oct 2009, Armchair_Expert wrote:

    The seedings for the play-offs are based on the FIFA rankings which have just been published this morning. Doesn't make much difference, though.
    9. France
    10. Portugal
    12. Russia
    16. Greece
    22. Ukraine
    34. Rep of Ireland
    42. Bosnia-Herzathingy
    49. Slovenia

    BTW Gabon have plumetted to 45th place

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  • 328. At 09:16am on 16 Oct 2009, TommyB wrote:

    Herzegovina... the forgotten twin

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  • 329. At 09:23am on 16 Oct 2009, tj wrote:

    Green, James, Hart/Foster; Johnson, Brown, Rio, JT, Upson, Lescott, Cashley; Gerrard, Lampard, Barry, Beckham, J. Cole, Walcott, Hargreaves, Milner; Rooney, Heskey, Crouch, Defoe, Owen

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  • 330. At 09:35am on 16 Oct 2009, JMI20_NUFC wrote:

    Good squad Robbo!

    Personally I'd take Young over Milner though, I know Milner has impressed more when given the chance than Young, but surely Young is a better player than Milner? & plays on the left for Villa, unlike Milner.

    Also, C.Cole over Heskey, old arguement, but I reckon he could do the same job and might actually score a goal!

    Other than that I think i'd go with your choices.

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  • 331. At 10:06am on 16 Oct 2009, RedBlueArmy92 wrote:

    Gaz, mate i am gutted i can't watch the new vid, i am sure it is cracking though fella... Although i did see on your profile you are 35,I think i may the youngest of the 6... hahaha.

    Zoots/Trotski, The Onion Pi was brilliant guys, and the only tear it brought was a tear of laughter... that or i was crying at another day at work with this blog as my only solace... No, its friday, so it must have been your posts...

    Also its like over 330 posts and pretty much on topic... gotta love the unity that International footy brings...

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  • 332. At 10:31am on 16 Oct 2009, GazUtd wrote:


    Unity? Eh? I posted like 20 times I wanted England to lose!!

    Don't know why you can't see the vid RBA. It's a Channel 4 thing but you should be able to see it in the UK. Unless Aldershot is classed as being an outside territory or something.

    It could be your employers use a non-UK ISP, in which case you should threaten to walk out as they are not patriotic. Although I suppose the Russian Mafia wouldn't really be.

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  • 333. At 10:39am on 16 Oct 2009, TommyO wrote:

    "...But football is football. Ronaldo scores from 30 metres but he is not a team. You can have Ronaldo, Maradona, but you can lose. We don't look at one or two famous players. We focus on our strengths and if we believe, we can achieve the result we want..."

    wise words from Trapattoni today

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  • 334. At 10:41am on 16 Oct 2009, Robbo Robson wrote:

    #323

    Foster

    Neville Brown Rio Cole

    Beckham Hargreaves Carrick Scholes (Welbeck if Scholesy won't go)

    Rooney Owen

    _________________________________________________________________________

    You're having a laugh, right? Shall we give Evra a quick passport then you can have a job lot of United players, most of whom huffed and puffed to a 2-2 v Sunderland. You say you're not English, but clearly you have an OT passport.

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  • 335. At 10:56am on 16 Oct 2009, TommyO wrote:

    The idiotic manc, Robbo - it's a worldwide phenomenon.

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  • 336. At 11:12am on 16 Oct 2009, GazUtd wrote:



    Am I the only one who thinks it's hilarious that the master of wind-ups didn't get a blatant one because the anti-United goggles were all steamed up?

    Yes?

    Just me then?

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  • 337. At 11:17am on 16 Oct 2009, TommyO wrote:

    i think it's hilarious on the day Ferguson has to answer to the FA for his disgraceful comments about a referee another facet to his character is shown via the publication of his charming letter to the player of another club - he really does have a heart, you know?

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  • 338. At 11:18am on 16 Oct 2009, markbrassington wrote:

    Here we go again, Tournament Syndrome, like Japanese tourists in Paris, were building ourselves up into a frenzy of over-expectation with a painful panorama of disappointment and recrimination in prospect. You know that dead key sound in Windows? Dunk. That’s how we’ll feel - alone and lost in familiar places. Here’s my squad:
    DEFINITELY IN :
    David Beckham : plays like a madman who thinks he’s David Beckham. But I agree with Robbo there's something almost homoerotic about the fauning commentary and the grovelling MotM award. No you can't go to his parties, Bruce.
    Me : Captain. School keepy-up champ aged 10. Then 21 years of criminal neglect.
    Crouch : Robot striker. Did you spot the commotion under capello’s overcoat every time crouch was on the ball? I know from his post match interviews that Capello often wears a set of false arms and when I noticed the remote control aerial emerging from his fly, it finally made sense of crouch’s angular weirdness. Remember the robot dance? Loose wire.
    Adey Boothroyd’s dog : can head the ball into the net at will, he says.
    Leon Constantine: if he could only reproduce his 2007/8 form for the Vale, would be ahead of agbonlahore in the pecking at his own reflection order.
    Plus : some random other players, picked by lottery.
    Manager : mickey adams. Would sack them all for a laugh. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/p/port_vale/8277136.stm

    DEFINITELY OUT:
    Rooney : do we really want one of Saruman’s goblin warriors in the national team?
    SWP : plays like a puppy off the leash, needs a good home. Maybe Madonna will adopt him?
    Owen: Don’t like him. Don’t know why. It can’t just be that moment with Neville Southall http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqOxNspUPyE

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  • 339. At 11:23am on 16 Oct 2009, RedBlueArmy92 wrote:

    Gaz mate, yeah we host our ISP via our sister company in the States... I'll have to watch it at home, dagnabit.

    and Gaz, Tommy... I think you stop bickering as both Raf and Saf seem equally petulant, and are two of the most easily hate-able chracters in football... i think in the end you will both lose your arguments... We have a gift from the Saints as our new gaffer, and we cant say a bad word about him... (unless we lose on't weekend, then he'll be crucified)

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  • 340. At 11:46am on 16 Oct 2009, stecurry wrote:

    What more does Bent have to do?! hes been all over this season helping out the defence as well as bangin in the goals and as the controversial penalty against wolves which he gave to Jones proved he is a team player and helps build up confidence.

    England need a tough tackling midfielder as well, stand up cattermole every team needs a player who will put their foot in and to let the opposition know they are in the game. Good solid player born and bred north east so he would give his all for the england team.

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  • 341. At 12:03pm on 16 Oct 2009, RedBlueArmy92 wrote:

    Trotter, have you seen that Rooney is out of the game and Berbatov is unlikely due to the birth of his first nipper... Bolton are in a good vein of form at present and are definately capable of causing an upset (as many gooners will tell you)... tranversely utd had an unquestionable dip in form against Sunderland last time out, confidence will be low, the talisman of Rooney gone, and Nani punting it from where ever as he scored in the week... Plus Villa Chelsea early doors, if Villa as i suspect get a draw or win, Man utd can go top... Pressure is all thiers...

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  • 342. At 12:22pm on 16 Oct 2009, queanbeyan wrote:

    Robbo, please... think inside the box, not outside...
    England has virtually no strikers at the same level as say a Shearer or Torres. They are all midfielders. There is no world class goalie. In the midfield, only Garrard stands out. Lampard is a good player amond lots of good players. Beckham is the only other England player that is recognised outside England as world class. His skills come onlyonce in a generation. Get real.

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  • 343. At 12:24pm on 16 Oct 2009, collie21 wrote:

    "...But football is football. Ronaldo scores from 30 metres but he is not a team. You can have Ronaldo, Maradona, but you can lose. We don't look at one or two famous players. We focus on our strengths and if we believe, we can achieve the result we want..."

    wise words from Trapattoni today
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    Wise if you do have players with any strengths...and you are not smoking lsd and hallucinating, which clearly he is, come on he said Montengro were a good team.

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  • 344. At 12:29pm on 16 Oct 2009, TommyO wrote:

    Kill yourself, collie - it's the only solution

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  • 345. At 12:38pm on 16 Oct 2009, Walking On Soft Ground wrote:

    Sigh, Hargreaves, Sigh.
    I'm reluctant to start on this as I've spent too long the the same subject on PMs, but...
    Hargreaves wasn't our best player in 2006.
    He played well against Portugal in the last hour, after Rooney was sent off. In earlier games, he was poor to average.
    If you doubt this, look at the ratings & reports on the BBC WC2006 pages.
    Unfortunately all some people remember is that last hour.
    Rose-tinted glasses
    Fading memories
    Check the facts....

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  • 346. At 12:41pm on 16 Oct 2009, GazUtd wrote:


    RBA for tomorrows match there is also the fact that "Mr Not at all a Liverpool fan and dear friend of SAF" Clattenburger will be the ref.

    Given his history of superb decisions and the injury worries there could well be a smiling Trotter come Saturday afternoon.

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  • 347. At 12:54pm on 16 Oct 2009, excellentcatblogger wrote:

    I hope that the FA have paid attention to the preparation for altitude training that the British Lions did before their tour to South Africa. Depending on the draw you would expect some matches to be played in Pretoria or Johannesburg, especially if you have ambitions to winning the cup.

    The worst scenario might be playing group stages and quarter finals by the coast, and then go to play a semi final at altitude. So at this stage you have to be looking at the skillful and very fit players, as playing at altitude will be very energy sapping. Players will also have to pace themselves more, so that they can recover between matches. On the plus side it will be winter there and at altitude it will be chilly.

    So my main worry is with the older players and those who with the perpetual injury niggles.

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  • 348. At 12:58pm on 16 Oct 2009, collie21 wrote:

    personally, and it depends on which team he puts out, but I think United might hammer Bolton at the weekend.

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  • 349. At 1:00pm on 16 Oct 2009, collie21 wrote:

    344. At 12:29pm on 16 Oct 2009, TommyOnion wrote:

    Kill yourself, collie - it's the only solution

    ---------------------------------------------
    What a responsible and insightful comment to make on the internet to a complete stranger, must be a gerrard fan.

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  • 350. At 1:05pm on 16 Oct 2009, Holloway2Holland wrote:

    Gaz, re your video, I'm not sure about this, but maybe its just the surfers within the U.K. who can't access it. Last night Trotter & myself had no trouble watching it, (Both outside the U.K.) were as Zoot & 'staff (presumably in the U.K) couldn't.
    If you belong to the unfortunates that are unable to view this work of art, make the effort (Gaz certainly did) to find it. Believe me, it's well worth it.

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  • 351. At 1:15pm on 16 Oct 2009, blogdignag wrote:

    #349. dON'T KILL YOURselves, collie*. jeez is this becoming youtube or sanink? anycases, an alien battlfleet is heading for the earth and all this blather is Futile Twaddle (beth's uglier sister).
    *i just saved a life

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  • 352. At 1:22pm on 16 Oct 2009, collie21 wrote:

    blogdignag, thank you for reminding I have something to live for. Yes alien battlefleet is coming to reclaim one of their scouts... Benny TEz.

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  • 353. At 1:29pm on 16 Oct 2009, TommyO wrote:

    349. At 1:00pm on 16 Oct 2009, collie21 wrote:
    What a responsible and insightful comment to make on the internet to a complete stranger, must be a gerrard fan.

    cheer up, you miserable get

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  • 354. At 1:38pm on 16 Oct 2009, My-back-pocket wrote:

    im goin for the three S's...sh*t,shave,shower...

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  • 355. At 1:40pm on 16 Oct 2009, TrotterUSA wrote:

    Now now, let's not blame the ref even before the game has kicked off! Come on ye Whites.

    On paper, it's an easy win for Man U and that wouldn't be the end of the world, however, the game is played on grass, not on paper and if Man U have 33 shots and we have just one, but ours is the only one that goes in, well, it'll be Burnley all over again. Funny old game sometimes!

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  • 356. At 1:44pm on 16 Oct 2009, blogdignag wrote:

    the tears live in a (Tommy) onion that should water this grief

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  • 357. At 1:46pm on 16 Oct 2009, collie21 wrote:

    TommyOnion, you have the wierdest take on things written by people.... but with a name like Onion it must be due the constant tears in your eyes :-)

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  • 358. At 1:50pm on 16 Oct 2009, Starburst_995 wrote:

    Well Trotter, Rooney's out for that match so I'd say your chances have gotten a little better ;)

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  • 359. At 1:55pm on 16 Oct 2009, TommyO wrote:

    onion = tears


    stuff of genius

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  • 360. At 2:01pm on 16 Oct 2009, RedBlueArmy92 wrote:

    Well i am glad to see i am not the only who thinks that thier could be an upset this weekend... But you never know, Owen could get a start and play out of his skin to proove all doubters wrong... Then again he is Michael "paper bones" Owen... I think he'll hit the back of a strectcher before the net...

    Also, 'arry and his "stolen generation" make a return to Pompey, i think this could be a HUGE game... With another upset!

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  • 361. At 2:05pm on 16 Oct 2009, GazUtd wrote:


    What about Villa and Liverpool staging upsets tomorrow as well?

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  • 362. At 2:06pm on 16 Oct 2009, Robbo Robson wrote:

    #345
    Ermmm. Did you mention Wayne Rooney? Strange.

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  • 363. At 2:11pm on 16 Oct 2009, RedBlueArmy92 wrote:

    Agreed Gaz, i said earlier i see vila either a draw or win... But depends what Chelsea team turn up, if its the one that played wigan, villa are sorted, if it the one that been playing the rest of the season... I'm not so sure... (1-1, with Chels goal 90+ mins is my prediction)... And Sunderland are gonna be buoyant after last time out... I would love to see them beat the 'pool...

    We have Bury at the rec, fingers crossed for the new gaffer.

    (3-1 Morgan hatrick)

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  • 364. At 2:27pm on 16 Oct 2009, GazUtd wrote:


    Ahh Bury at the rec.

    Now that's what football is all about.

    How come Robbo's around during the day, is the pub closed?

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  • 365. At 2:34pm on 16 Oct 2009, RedBlueArmy92 wrote:

    Isnt it, weren't they... Marvelous.

    The blue bell must have Wi-fi???

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  • 366. At 2:38pm on 16 Oct 2009, GazUtd wrote:


    I've heard there are a few Wi-Fi women in there if you know what I mean.

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  • 367. At 2:39pm on 16 Oct 2009, arundini wrote:

    What about Gary Neville ? Good experienced pro.........

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  • 368. At 2:42pm on 16 Oct 2009, GazUtd wrote:


    Yes. How come no one has brought up Gary Neville before?

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  • 369. At 2:43pm on 16 Oct 2009, GazUtd wrote:


    Oh dear. Looks like Liverpools hopes of causing an upset at Sunderland tomorrow have taken a bit of a blow.

    Torres and St. Steven are out and it looks like Lucas is going to play.

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  • 370. At 2:46pm on 16 Oct 2009, TrotterUSA wrote:

    Gaz, are you inferring that a Liverpool win would be an upset? I like the way you think.

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  • 371. At 2:51pm on 16 Oct 2009, used2beprofi wrote:

    absolutely agree on hargreaves if his form is there and i would go so far as to say england could make the final w/ him in the team. w/out him it will be a struggle after the first round depending on the draw...

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  • 372. At 4:03pm on 16 Oct 2009, TommyO wrote:

    The longer Hargreaves goes without playing the better he seems to get

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  • 373. At 4:07pm on 16 Oct 2009, TrotterUSA wrote:

    A highly chuckle-worthy observation TommyO! If he doesn't recover and we don't win the WC, it'll all be his fault.

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  • 374. At 4:19pm on 16 Oct 2009, TommyO wrote:

    but on the plus side he'll win Player of the Year

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  • 375. At 4:28pm on 16 Oct 2009, GazUtd wrote:


    Unlike Lucas who the more he plays the worse he seems to get!

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  • 376. At 4:31pm on 16 Oct 2009, TommyO wrote:

    i don't think he can get any worse

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  • 377. At 4:35pm on 16 Oct 2009, TrotterUSA wrote:

    Lucas : a tragic case but Elmander is even more tragic!

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  • 378. At 4:43pm on 16 Oct 2009, TrotterUSA wrote:

    Trotters have been accused of tapping up a seventeen year old from Wolverhampton. Closest I ever got to that was with a lass called Lynne at a Birmingham ice skating rink circa 1980. Didn't think we'd get dragged into this mess but apparently it's not exclusively a big four issue. Our network might not reach the corners of the globe but Wolverhampton today Timbuktu tomorrow!

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  • 379. At 4:43pm on 16 Oct 2009, RoboRobson wrote:

    RoboRobson here -titter- this is a putsch. I am robo's siamese twin and we is taking over this blog. from now on this blog will concern itself with poetry and philosophy. I wuz raised on the tyne and down at t'bluebell we talk in ryme; now then mistah kurtz - he dead, pint of mild love pork pie and scrathings flat cap by eck lad pass my well thumbed copy of blades of grass ee lass

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  • 380. At 4:45pm on 16 Oct 2009, RoboRobson wrote:

    get orf mi blog, imposter!
    yours, the real Robbo, with 2 Bs!

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  • 381. At 4:48pm on 16 Oct 2009, RoboRobson wrote:

    OK look here's the truth. i'm paid byt the post. i've written 367 of the above posts. i've got 53 blog identities, 12 kids and a cough. i live in washington and the chavs next door keep me awake at night. now you know.
    signed
    blogdignag

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  • 382. At 4:49pm on 16 Oct 2009, GazUtd wrote:


    I think it's sweet Trotter that you remember a lass's name from nearly 30 years ago.

    My descriptions of failed conquests resort to 'Her with the legs', 'Her with the big ****', and the always popular 'Her who was a lesbian anyway'.

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  • 383. At 4:52pm on 16 Oct 2009, NEARPOSTHEADER wrote:

    A question: how does one get rid of Sepp Blatter? Legally, I mean. Some of his decisions are bizarre/absurd. The seedings idea is a blatant attempt to shoehorn the big name teams into the WC.

    Another question: when does Capello have to announce his squad? Seems a bit pointless to argue over who is going to go when it's still 8/9 months and a gruelling season in the future.

    Which strikers to take? Just get Rooney to pick them - that's by far the easiest way; he'll have to play alongside them anyway.

    SWP? I don't even know why he's in contention. Nice comment Robbo and many a true word spoken in jest.

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  • 384. At 4:52pm on 16 Oct 2009, TrotterUSA wrote:

    Gaz, I remember her last name, her address and the color of the cushions on her mam's sofa too!

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  • 385. At 4:57pm on 16 Oct 2009, TrotterUSA wrote:

    383 Nearpost, your idea is absolutely right and we can fully expect that Fabio will consult Rooney on the matter. It's possibly the case that this experimental phase is just so Rooney can have a good look at all his options. Wayne will announce his squad in June.

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  • 386. At 4:59pm on 16 Oct 2009, used2beprofi wrote:

    how important is hargreaves? just ask fergie, who did pay what? 17 million punds? and he played 17 games. fergie will tell you it was a GOOD DEAL. look at all they won and look who was ALWAYS chosen in the BIG games when available...england could be a semi-finalist if he returns to form. lucky to get out of group w/out him depending on draw...

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  • 387. At 5:24pm on 16 Oct 2009, Holloway2Holland wrote:

    Re Squad defenders,
    I know were almost 400 posts in and we're usually so far off topic by now that you would need the Hubble Telescope just to catch a glimpse of it, but after reading all the posts and doing a little research I noticed someone I admitedly new little about.

    Now I don't wish to make a mountain out of a Cahill, but this guy does look like he could do the biz. I see that he has been valued at around 20mill so he must be pretty good, and before someone says that Lescott cost 24mill I'm talking about the real value and not the M.R.P. {Markhughes Recomended Price).

    So for the people who watch him regularly, is he the real deal or is it just hype?

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  • 388. At 5:46pm on 16 Oct 2009, TrotterUSA wrote:

    H2H, of course Cahill's the real deal, he's fantastic, real value probably closer to 81 million. Watch him score the winner tomorrow!

    Speaking of the Hubble telescope, I met an astronaut last week at a conference in California (the day before I played PGA West Stadium course), Story Musgrove. He worked on the original design and is the only astronaut to have flown on every space shuttle. He carried out repairs on his space walks and showed us the most amazing pictures during his talk. Helps put it all in perspective somehow. As yet another aside, he started work on a tractor at nine years of age. He still has it. He has a 1966 army issue dump truck on his Florida spread and he mentioned that he hasn't been under the bonnet for 11 years! Fascinating stuff.

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  • 389. At 5:52pm on 16 Oct 2009, blogdignag wrote:

    ans: "just hype" - he won't amount to a cahill of beans in this crazy world cup

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  • 390. At 5:52pm on 16 Oct 2009, TrotterUSA wrote:

    ooops, Musgrave!

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  • 391. At 6:09pm on 16 Oct 2009, matt1815 wrote:

    Why does your link to Obama getting the Nobel peace prize take me to a picture of Wolverine?

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  • 392. At 6:17pm on 16 Oct 2009, Holloway2Holland wrote:

    Trotter,
    "he hasn't been under the bonnet for 11 years!"

    How does his wife feel about that?

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  • 393. At 6:18pm on 16 Oct 2009, GazUtd wrote:

    At 6:17pm on 16 Oct 2009, Holloway2Holland wrote:
    Trotter,
    "he hasn't been under the bonnet for 11 years!"

    How does his wife feel about that?

    ----

    Why would he be worried about how she felt!

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  • 394. At 6:20pm on 16 Oct 2009, Holloway2Holland wrote:

    @ 391, that,s not wolverine, thats David Becham

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  • 395. At 6:25pm on 16 Oct 2009, TrotterUSA wrote:

    H2H, the sensitive, caring, modern man, Gaz, more of a traditionalist attitude. She probably left with the milkman when he was off on one of his business trips.

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  • 396. At 6:27pm on 16 Oct 2009, Holloway2Holland wrote:

    Gaz, I should of known you'd say something like that after post 382.

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  • 397. At 6:29pm on 16 Oct 2009, Roberto_Mexicano wrote:

    I was expected this to be an amusing line up in the usual Robbo style, but instead he went for a serious one. Oh well.

    Just one glaring ommision - How is Bridge not in ur squad Robbo?!! Who's gonna play left back if Cole gets injured? Lescott?! God I hope not!

    Apart from that uv probably gone for exactly wot Capello & every other England fan's thinking, although Joe Cole & particularly Hargreaves are both a case of "watch this space". The latter will have to prove he's over his injury problems and back to something like his best before he gets anywhere near an England friendly, let alone the World Cup squad!

    While I agree i'd rather have him than Carrick if he's fully fit and in form, I think Carrick going is far more likely.

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  • 398. At 6:30pm on 16 Oct 2009, Holloway2Holland wrote:

    Trotter, at least for her, with his job, she,d always know he'd be FAR OUT of town

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  • 399. At 6:32pm on 16 Oct 2009, GazUtd wrote:


    I will never change my views.

    Saying that I just see the Mrs about to arrive in so I'll be off to get the dinner made and start the cleaning.

    All because I want to, you understand.

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  • 400. At 6:47pm on 16 Oct 2009, TrotterUSA wrote:

    You'll be off shopping with her Saturday at 3pm Gaz?

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  • 401. At 6:56pm on 16 Oct 2009, Holloway2Holland wrote:

    3pm's too late, they'd never get back in time to watch Strictly'

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  • 402. At 6:58pm on 16 Oct 2009, GazUtd wrote:


    It's scary how much you two know.

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  • 403. At 7:03pm on 16 Oct 2009, TrotterUSA wrote:

    what is 'Strictly'?

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  • 404. At 7:07pm on 16 Oct 2009, Holloway2Holland wrote:

    GAz, explain

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  • 405. At 7:08pm on 16 Oct 2009, TrotterUSA wrote:

    339 RBA, did you say you have a sister in the States that needs some company?

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  • 406. At 7:25pm on 16 Oct 2009, TrotterUSA wrote:

    14/1 a Bolton win! I fancy a five quid double with Sunderland!!

    http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english

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  • 407. At 7:26pm on 16 Oct 2009, GazUtd wrote:


    Strictly is the BBCs version of Dancing With The Stars Trotter.

    I am ashamed at knowing that.

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  • 408. At 7:33pm on 16 Oct 2009, TrotterUSA wrote:

    oh, alright, I never watch that but do they have Strictly on after the footie scores? Used to be Mick McManus time. Zoot will remember. Then it was the Freddie and The Dreamers 1/2 hour! How times have changed.

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  • 409. At 8:14pm on 16 Oct 2009, davidgilmourthe3rd wrote:





    I would go for:




    -------------------Daffy Duck-------------------

    Goofy--------Mickey Mouse--------Tweetie Pie--------Fog Horn Leg Horn

    -----------------Buggs Bunny-------------------

    -Beckham---------------------------Yousemite Sam
    ------------------Road Runner-----------------

    ---------Willy Coyote------------Sylvestre The Cat---------



    Shine On

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  • 410. At 8:24pm on 16 Oct 2009, WhitleyBayWonTheVase wrote:

    I'm surprised to read some of the comments about FIFA seeding the likes of Portugal and France.

    As another poster points out, people probably wouldn't hesitate to complain if the same happened in the Champions League.

    However, favouritism, elitism or personal preferences aren't the reasons behind FIFA doing this. There is a very sound reason for it. Economics.

    The nations they give seeding to are those that are the biggest footballing nations. If England were in the play-offs, we'd get seeded too. So why should that be the case? Well it is simple - their system generates and pays a lot more money to UEFA/FIFA than the nations that aren't ranked. So, if you put yourself in the nations shoes, you might expect a little bit back in the form of seeding based on your past performances at tournaments and the contribution you make to keeping the world game we love afloat.

    Its all fine and dandy to say its unfair for Portugal and France not to be able to draw each other, but as both have good records in major competitions, and as both are major contributors to the global pot, surely it is only right that they get seeded?

    There is no just cause for complaining about the seeding of these teams.

    There is, however, every just cause for complaining about Michel Platweenie, a man who continues to demonstrate more double standards than the rest of the footballing world put together. See, if it was England - he would find a damned good reason for them NOT to be seeded.

    You think I'm joking? Thank god we didn't have to test it, because I would have put money on him finding an excuse and using his powers to influence those at the top of FIFA.

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  • 411. At 8:25pm on 16 Oct 2009, blogdignag wrote:

    nice idea to play bugs bunny in the hole, tweety pie a bit lightweigt for centr alf tho doncha think? and liable to gt eaten by your own centre forward me i'd have roadrunner on the wing think it through a bit moe next time

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  • 412. At 8:27pm on 16 Oct 2009, TrotterUSA wrote:

    I'm surprised people are still picking Tweetie Pie, well past it!

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  • 413. At 8:27pm on 16 Oct 2009, WhitleyBayWonTheVase wrote:

    By the way, I also retain the view he was one of the most over-rated players in history. I've seen better at Hillheads, home of the mighty Whitley Bay, reigning FA Vase holders and top of Northern League Division 1.

    We're unbeaten, you know.

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  • 414. At 8:33pm on 16 Oct 2009, TrotterUSA wrote:

    Whitley, if they'd come up with this system before the first game kicked off, all well and good but now it's impossible for them to save face on these rigged play-off fixtures. Sepp Blatter is just looking to his big "slaves" to put down the rising from his small "slave" nations.

    Wow, still unbeaten...who's next for the slaughter?

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  • 415. At 8:46pm on 16 Oct 2009, GazUtd wrote:


    WBFC are so good that their players only need one leg...

    http://images.icnetwork.co.uk/upl/sundaysun/oct2008/8/7/F0BC1CD6-C961-D7AA-B855D65D23ABFA21.jpg

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  • 416. At 8:47pm on 16 Oct 2009, davidgilmourthe3rd wrote:

    blogdignag

    TrotterUSA

    hahha

    It took me months to get that team into shape but i have to agree
    Road Runner is best suited to the wing position I have since mentioned this to the said player, who threw a hissy fit and stormed off throwing his tshirt in the physio's face, we have not been able to locate either since.

    Tweetie pie was picked purely for his abilty to woo the surporters with those come to bed eyes and his feet are huge! ( or is it a she ) hmmm.

    The rest of the team besides having a proven track record at the highest level also sell a lots of shirts and other merchandise .

    I can also confirm that the recent story regarding Coyote's metarsials playing up again are pure speculation, the guy is 100% fit and will make the trip.

    we will make the semis at least.

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  • 417. At 8:53pm on 16 Oct 2009, blogdignag wrote:

    they'll need viagra to achieve a semi

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  • 418. At 10:02pm on 16 Oct 2009, davidgilmourthe3rd wrote:

    beep beep

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  • 419. At 10:29pm on 16 Oct 2009, TrotterUSA wrote:

    Blimey Gaz, no wonder the lad's fallin' over!

    DavidG, I'm trying me level best to see things from your point of view and I suppose that if Tweetie Bird flies South for the Winter anyway, he might as well stay there and we'll at least save the plane fare. There's also a rumour that Sponge Bob knows of a Super Sub that might be available!

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  • 420. At 10:44pm on 16 Oct 2009, Holloway2Holland wrote:

    David, nice line up,

    definetly not a Micky Mouse team.

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  • 421. At 10:54pm on 16 Oct 2009, davidgilmourthe3rd wrote:

    TrotterUSA

    Hi ( thumbs up )

    I am glad that at least you see the humourous side to my input.

    i am often reffered to as erm a " hater " or " annoyance " by many who alas seem to be far too serious about events thus far involving england.

    i make no secret i dont think they have a hoot in hells chance of actually winning, regardless of who goes or stays.

    i read robos stuff and phils as well, and see although there is a defo passion in his words etc, there is also a very tounge in cheek style in the way he puts his views, on various matters across. and i like to read it even though some of it may well be against my beloved Gunners.

    In my view this takes the sting out of the debate.

    I would go as far to say, that robbo is perhaps well aware, as are many are, or we should be, the squad will pick itself so there is very little to debate on that particular point.

    far from being a " hater " or " annoyance " i like a lil humour in life, be it Monty Pythons Ministry of Silly walks or Looney Tunes .

    LOL.

    shine ON beep beep hehe.

    Ps: yes i really should know better at my age but as the saying goes WTF .

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  • 422. At 10:58pm on 16 Oct 2009, TrotterUSA wrote:

    Besides that I'm sick of how this blog always deteriorates into the usual cast of characters telling us ad nauseum how their Walt Disney players are more deserving of a place in the team than the Hanna Barbera lads. Endless drivel. Yogi Bear, Top Cat, Tom & Jerry should be the spine of that team! It's laughable.

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  • 423. At 11:04pm on 16 Oct 2009, TrotterUSA wrote:

    DG3 I think we agree on that, one of the reasons I enjoy Robbo's blog is because he doesn't take himself too seriously, the fact that others take him and themselves as seriously as a heart attack, is clearly not his problem! We are but grains of sand on the beach of life. (Look out, there's a wave coming).

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  • 424. At 11:17pm on 16 Oct 2009, Holloway2Holland wrote:

    Yes indeed Trotter,

    Life's a beach and then you dive.

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  • 425. At 11:21pm on 16 Oct 2009, Zootmac wrote:

    David Gilmour:

    The bottom line is that there are those who can see the sun shine out of the a*se of Robbo.

    And those who can only see the dark side of the moon.

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  • 426. At 11:24pm on 16 Oct 2009, TrotterUSA wrote:

    H2H, that'd be a great T shirt slogan for a scuba fan. How is the diving in Holland?

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  • 427. At 11:30pm on 16 Oct 2009, GazUtd wrote:

    At 11:24pm on 16 Oct 2009, TrotterUSA wrote:
    H2H, that'd be a great T shirt slogan for a scuba fan. How is the diving in Holland?

    -----

    It's quite good in parts of Amsterdam. But pricey.

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  • 428. At 11:32pm on 16 Oct 2009, TrotterUSA wrote:

    chuckle chuckle

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  • 429. At 11:37pm on 16 Oct 2009, Holloway2Holland wrote:

    Trotter, I'm not to sure about on the waterfront, but in the red light district m**f diving is extreamly popular.

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  • 430. At 11:37pm on 16 Oct 2009, GazUtd wrote:


    Trotter, Megson has just been on the Premier League preview show saying all the talk about Fergie getting a ban and being rude to refs is just plain rubbish and no one in football cares about it.

    I like him!

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  • 431. At 11:42pm on 16 Oct 2009, TrotterUSA wrote:

    That's good, another convert! He speaks his mind, shoots straight, calls a spade a spade and calls a crappy performance a crappy performance, he also calls supporters who expect miracles on a shoestring budget, ignorant, clueless, deluded imbeciles. What's not to like about Meggo?

    My pal put me a five pound double on Bolton and Sunderland. 14-1 and 14-5.

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  • 432. At 11:44pm on 16 Oct 2009, TrotterUSA wrote:

    Gaz, is that the Sky show? We get that here on Fox Soccer Channel at 7pm. I'll interrupt baseball (rounders) play-off coverage to watch.

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  • 433. At 11:45pm on 16 Oct 2009, TrotterUSA wrote:

    damn, it's already on! Started at 6.30.

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  • 434. At 11:51pm on 16 Oct 2009, WhitleyBayWonTheVase wrote:

    @Trotter

    Fair point, but are we sure the seeding was an after-thought? I'm not too sure it was. Can anyone confirm it?

    The next lambs to the slaughter are Chester Le Street, tomorrow.

    I don't normally make predictions, but I'll go for a 7-0 home win on this occasion. Being conservative.

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  • 435. At 11:55pm on 16 Oct 2009, TrotterUSA wrote:

    WNWTV, they decided the seeding system on Sep 29th.

    7-0? We haven't scored that many since Sheffield in 1880 something! You're a very lucky man.

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  • 436. At 11:55pm on 16 Oct 2009, GazUtd wrote:


    WBWTV did you see the Chester-Lee-Street council funny photo I posted?

    If not here it is again...

    I think you should print loads of copies and hand them out tomorrow and look at all their ladies funny!!

    http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/epic-fail-viewing-areas.jpg

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  • 437. At 00:27am on 17 Oct 2009, davidgilmourthe3rd wrote:

    love the dark side of the moon reference.

    my fav is the Final Cut or Animals or going back further echos.

    soory guys i know thats totaly of topic but it was the dark side of the moon that set the controls for the heart of the sun for me.

    shine on and at the end of the day, and on topic, cometh the hour the best team will win.

    lets hope its not Ukraine our borders wouldt be able to cope with the influx of throwaway t shirts.

    oh well lol.

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  • 438. At 01:37am on 17 Oct 2009, TrotterUSA wrote:

    Ok, I know everybody resists being post #438. I'll do it, just to get it out of the way. Carry on.

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  • 439. At 02:32am on 17 Oct 2009, Robbo Robson wrote:

    Like the Disney line-up. With the right side debate I'm reckoning one from Huey Dewey n Lewey... aka Walcoot, Lennon n SWP

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  • 440. At 03:32am on 17 Oct 2009, WordsofWisdom wrote:

    334. At 10:41am on 16 Oct 2009, Robbo Robson wrote:
    #323

    Foster

    Neville Brown Rio Cole

    Beckham Hargreaves Carrick Scholes (Welbeck if Scholesy won't go)

    Rooney Owen

    _________________________________________________________________________

    "You're having a laugh, right?"

    You actually had to ask????? Jeez Robbo your slipping.

    Anyway, how about we start a collection to buy a life for TrottersUSA. He's been on here for 2 days solid now!!

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  • 441. At 03:57am on 17 Oct 2009, TrotterUSA wrote:

    440 Hey, do I have my own personal stalker now? What an honour! You could represent England as one of the seven dwarfs, I was thinking "Dopey" perhaps?

    After 5 hotels in 8 days I'm happy to tell you that I'll be here on and off for another two days. Hope that's ok with you. Let me know if I need a permission slip.

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  • 442. At 04:31am on 17 Oct 2009, redwillhunted7 wrote:

    Trotter, When did u last see the 'Roi's of the Reebok' live?

    I'm predicting 2-0 to utd this weekend...VDS is back so Rio/Vidic might behave themselves

    And Sunderland to nick a 1-0 win with 'lukewarm' Bent scoring the winner...leading to a 1/5 bet that both Benitez (pitchside) and Torres (stands) begin the weekend weepfest.

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  • 443. At 06:55am on 17 Oct 2009, Starburst_995 wrote:

    Re the loony Tunes line up.

    You lot have missed out on the fastest winger in the world ... Speedy Gonzales.

    Sure, physically he's a bit light but the oppo woun't have time to find that out as he blazes past their back four and unleash a thunderbolt into the top right corner of the net ;)

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  • 444. At 09:35am on 17 Oct 2009, kenny_burns_kneecap wrote:

    -------------- Beattie ---- Jeffers ------------

    Guppy --- Barton(c) --- Bowyer --- Johnson(Seth)

    Mills --- Carragher --- Knight --- Konchesky

    ---------------------Wright---------------------


    Eet worked for me Meester Robbo.

    Hasta pronto,
    Diego

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  • 445. At 11:06am on 17 Oct 2009, WordsofWisdom wrote:

    Bloddy hell Robbo, do something! You know who has started talking to himself now!

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  • 446. At 12:33pm on 17 Oct 2009, adampsb wrote:

    Gaz,

    What happened to JDR is Ted. I haven't had a chance to watch it

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  • 447. At 2:32pm on 17 Oct 2009, RoboRobson wrote:

    #445 stop talking to yurself, you kno who, you have become....

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  • 448. At 2:33pm on 17 Oct 2009, RoboRobson wrote:

    .....predictable

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  • 449. At 2:34pm on 17 Oct 2009, RoboRobson wrote:

    by the way i resign as blogdignag is far wittier than i and from now on it's his blog

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  • 450. At 2:40pm on 17 Oct 2009, blogdignag wrote:

    gee thanks robo. from now on only posts referring to childrens' cartoon animals will be accepted pleas do not attempt to circumvent the rules byt trying to smuggle in refs to yosemite sam or dwarfs who have a cracking 7-a-side team. no long debates about "sexiest female cartoon characters" neither (betty rubble for me)

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  • 451. At 4:35pm on 17 Oct 2009, redpreacherman wrote:

    Only just been able to read the blogs. RBA. Your 195, if we put Redgrave and Pinsent in the same boat could we expect gold in 2012?

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  • 452. At 5:11pm on 17 Oct 2009, GazUtd wrote:


    Brilliant day all round.

    If Rafa is still there at Christmas maybe he can put in a 10 million bid for Mr. Balloon.

    Adam, JDR is Ted should still be there on YouTube, there is something stupid about copyright and not being able to see it in the UK though.

    I have a feeling there may be a new Rafa video up in the near future.

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  • 453. At 5:14pm on 17 Oct 2009, TrotterUSA wrote:

    Gaz, excellent results for your lads. Well done. Bolton just lack two things, talent and money!

    How nice to see that the beach of life now has a beach ball.

    Redwill, great predictions, the cash should follow you!

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  • 454. At 5:40pm on 17 Oct 2009, HELLO_ONLY_ME_AGAIN wrote:

    My observation on England's selection issues...

    GERRARD plays UP FRONT for Liverpool with Torres (technically the 'front line' of a 5-man midfield, but just watch his positioning...).

    This role for England would leave space for 2 GENUINE WIDE MEN and resolves the SUPPORTING STRIKER DILEMMA (Heskey-Crouch-C.Cole would have significant squad roles, with Gerrard pulled back into midfield later in games if necessary).

    ie Start games with (for instance) Milner and Walcott on the flanks, finish games with Gerrard and Beckham in those positions to retain possession...

    Gerrard could be played anywhere - in the midfield, left-back, right back, in goal or as prime minister - but he should not JUST be the first name on the 'team sheet', he should be played IN HIS STRONGEST POSITION.

    (STEVIE G for PM...?!!!)

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  • 455. At 5:58pm on 17 Oct 2009, GazUtd wrote:


    In Rafa we trust!!

    Once again the 606 pages have become a Liverpool group therapy meeting. Thankfully there are still quite a few Rafa supporters out there. Long may it continue.

    Robbo and every other blog writer will be loving the balloon, well apart from McNulty obviously, not serious enough for him.

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  • 456. At 6:17pm on 17 Oct 2009, Fergie_warps_time wrote:

    "Now lads, keep your heads down, your wives quiet and your metatarsals wrapped in cotton wool. Especially you Wazza. Especially you."

    Priceless...

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  • 457. At 7:10pm on 17 Oct 2009, TrotterUSA wrote:

    Skint Sunderland musician discovers a novel way home from trip to Old Trafford.

    http://dawn.cbcr3.com/nmc/20/20850/Images/Burning%20Hell%20cbc3.1.jpg

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  • 458. At 09:24am on 18 Oct 2009, Starburst_995 wrote:

    Well, I'll have to admit, before the season kicked off if I'd put my money on a team to drop out of the big four it wouldn't have been Liverpool.

    We're near a quarter of the way through the season already and IMO the team in best nick right now out of the big four are Arsenal. Defensively they might not be any better than Man U and Chelsea right now, but Arsene's lot have been baning in goals for fun in comparison to those two this season, and they're having no trouble keeping up with them in the table right now.

    As for the Pool, well unless they really up their game when Gerrard or Torres aren't fut I can't see them getting into Europe next year, never mind keeping up in the title chase.

    We've Man City (obviously) Villa looked impressive vs Chelsea, Spurs look like they're finding the resolve to win when things get tough and now we've Sunderland mixing it with the rest of them.

    It's going to be a great year in the prem methinks :)

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  • 459. At 10:31am on 18 Oct 2009, redwillhunted7 wrote:

    Gaz, Rafa only needs to find another 98 balloons then he can make his TOTP debut with Nena..

    Trotter, the bet was going well but made the mistake of including Chelski as well..arggh! Should have put Whitley Bay in there instead - they never lose :-)

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  • 460. At 10:59am on 18 Oct 2009, redwillhunted7 wrote:

    Starfire, Benitez said at the start of the season that the top 4 would get beat more this season than in previous years, due to stronger competition from the new top 4 pretenders (City, Villa, Spurs etc..) He had to say that actually given the number of games Liverpool were losing, but maybe it will turn out to have a hint of truth about it after chelsea's defeat.

    So not sure about arsenals' defence even though the quality upfront is for all to see. They are still work in progress for me even tho they well placed in the table.

    Villa had a stormer vs Chelsea, esp after going 1-0 down. Young and Karew really played well. Anelka's tackle on O'neill on the sideline got my 'dive of the game' award.

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  • 461. At 1:10pm on 18 Oct 2009, kinraddie wrote:

    Dodgy goalkeepers, a right flank of Beckham and Johnson,neither can defend, which will be exploited by every team we play. A center forward in Heskey who can't get into a Villa team. After two years of games and we still have no settled team or any nearer to agreeing what it should be. Come on do you think we are all stupid and can't see for ourselves that England are not has good as they and you think they are.

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  • 462. At 1:46pm on 18 Oct 2009, Holloway2Holland wrote:

    @ 461, This guy totally agrees with you


    http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/sport/football/555155/CAPELLO-RAGES-AS-PLAYER-BREAKS-PHONE-BAN-Incensed-Italian-hurls-tray-at-wall.html
    By collina32. Posted October 18 2009 at 12:58 PM.

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  • 463. At 2:43pm on 18 Oct 2009, TommyB wrote:

    99 red balloons say the prefer the Kop. The other is a Bluenose.

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  • 464. At 2:56pm on 20 Oct 2009, dancingfootygirlie wrote:

    Although this is a tad late - only just found this blog - Robbo it is just great - I will be posting again for sure.

    Beckham should really go to SA - no question IMO, as not only he can be an impact sub, but also (and maybe more importantly) his poise and confidence under pressure from the Football media is second to none, and as such will take the pressure off other players. He is also a wonderful ambassador for the English game.

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