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Robbo Robson | 14:19 UK time, Thursday, 20 August 2009

I'm confused. How on earth can a sport populated by lovely gentlemen - as opposed to the thugs and hoodlums that populate the game of football - be brought into such ill-repute?
What has happened to the good old game of rugger?

I get a lot of flak every time I touch on the subject of rugby union from the chaps who see the whole sport as a byword for the old values of Corinthian spirit and decent fellows having a good old rumpus.

Well we can put that one to bed, I reckon. Union has always been to my mind a sport that's mostly about rule-bending.

When you think about it, the game was even conceived through cheating when some public school numpty picked up the ball during a game of football.
Harlequins' Tom Williams with fake blood
All them set-pieces when great concrete lunks pile on top of each other until they resemble a giant laundry basket. Players getting vaster and vaster to the extent that lifts in the hotels they use will have to change them warnings to "Maximum persons - eight or one lock-forward".

Drug tests not being taken, accusations flying andnow Dean Richards, who always seemed a reliable, honourable type - despite the kind of hangdog demeanour that makes Chris Waddle look like a perky terrier - has been banned for three years for his part in a player using blood capsules.

It's shoddy stuff. And what's worse, for all them great steaming hunks of manhood, it's theatrical!

What next? Artificial blood-stained limbs being snuck into a ruck so they can bring on a new forward? Hurriedly applied vampire make-up so that a half-baked winger is removed for being a danger to the opposition's necks?

Compared to the pretty flagrant tumbling we've seen from the slickest hair and feet among football's mighty egos, it's nothing short of Oscar-winning.

But then I've always been right uppity with this 'thug's game played by gentlemen' garbage that your more la-di-dah fellas try to maintain. You get commentators mildly chiding a couple of Blutos as they swing wildly at each other with mallet fists. 'Ho, ho! A bit of handbags there!'

I went into a fast-food place the other day and somewhere in me meat patty there was what looked like an eyeball. When I complained, the manager told me it was a Schalk-burger. How that fella still gets to have a career in the sport is beyond me.

Granted the attitude of the blokes on the pitch is not matched by the supporters who watch it. Thank God, eh? You wouldn't want to be escorted from the ground by a copper just 'cos the bloke next to you took exception to what you were shouting out, bashed his head into your shoulder and spat fake gore all over your silly Hot Gossip-style skintight lycra rugby top!

Rugby's ethics are being really compromised. League - where the play-of-the-ball and tackle areas are so much clearer - sorted out a lot of this skulduggery years ago. If Richards is a scapegoat, then it looks like they might need to find another few before this chapter is closed.

Yes it's a man's game. But coming off the pitch like you're in some sixth-form skit with joke-shop dribble coming out your mouth is hardly butch, is it?

But enough of minority sports... (can you see those Twickers hackles rising, chaps?)

There are days when life can't get much better. Wednesday was one such.

Burnley's hammering of Man U was wondrous - it's great to see the mighty SAF left red-faced at the end of a game. All right he was red-faced at the start of the game but you know what I mean.

There was a load of prattle beforehand about the dressing-room at Turf Moor being a tad cramped for the pampered principals of the top division. Poor lambs. Not enough mirrors, nowhere to put me hair-gel, can't do me pre-match keepy-uppies like we do in the acreage of Old Trafford's ravishing halls.

Fergie was magnanimous in defeat it should be noted, but I bet the United players were wishing the dressing-room was the size of an aircraft hangar after the match. I expect it was less hairdryer and more wind-tunnel from the gaffer after a dead feeble effort.
Sir Alex Ferguson at Turf Moor
'Course United are capable of putting in tawdry efforts like that, but last year they had Carlos the Jackal on the bench and the Madeiran magician to terrorise them 'n' all.

Currently they have Berbatov, who's so laid-back it's not hard to imagine him resting against a wall in a sombrero, Wazza, a great player but already looking a tad burdened by being the main threat, and Michael Owen who looks for all the world like a kitten in concrete boots.

In fact I have to say I get right hacked off with the idea that 'cos the bloke's at United his England career will suddenly be on the up. Jermain Defoe must be laughing into his mineral water with Spurs being top. (Top four side this year, I tells ya.)

It's probably just a blip but there's no denying that with the loss of Cristiano Ronaldo, Fergie is trying to replace three players in one. Two games in and I'm not for bold conclusions but here it is. To paraphrase the fount of all knowledge, Mr Hansen "You can't win anything with kids - or a past-it goalscorer with dodgy hams upfront."

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  • 1. At 3:13pm on 20 Aug 2009, Bangforyourbuck wrote:

    I've never bought into the 'thugs game played by gentlemen tripe' theory either, yet I've always been grateful that in rugby when there is a tear-up, it's actually a good'un. Unlike when footballers threaten to tear each other's heads off then end up with some chest-sumo before waiting for a teammate to "drag" them away. Even Roy Keane's effort on Shearer was a mincey-slap.

    This "Bloodgate" incident though is ridiculous and damning sentences for all involved is what was required before the sport gradually evolved into professional-wrestling. We could have expected to see chairs being smashed over heads during line-outs and someone climbing the post to deliver an elbow drop.

    As for the Burnley result, I'm grinning like a cheshire cat. And the fact the winner was scored by an ex-Leeds player made it all the more sweeter, so much so I think it gave me diabetes.

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  • 2. At 3:16pm on 20 Aug 2009, LallanaWonderland wrote:

    Enjoyed this, it's gotten me through 10 minutes of a very dull Thursday afternoon in the office. Completely agree about the whole rugby affair, I'm sure the word 'farcical' was invented for such an occasion as using fake blood to get out of a "real man's" game!

    Well done to Burnley, a triffic performance. Matt Le Tissier predicted a "shock Burnley win" on Soccer Special, as did I (a Southampton fan) because like him, I knew Man United don't like going to small, overbearing grounds like Turf Moor and The Dell. The only surprise for me last night was when United came out in the second half with the same shirts on as the first!

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  • 3. At 3:16pm on 20 Aug 2009, Bangforyourbuck wrote:

    Oooooh I'm first. Must be because everyone is glued to the Ashes commentary, speaking of which I must be off. Oh and I know my apostrophe is in the wrong place in the last post before anyone comments.

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  • 4. At 3:42pm on 20 Aug 2009, ahmedjeffersontyke wrote:

    The whole affair is rather embarrassing for rugby union and the illegal aliens business in rugby league is equally so.
    http://www.loserscomesecond.com/2009/08/celtic-crusaders-visa-deport-rugby.html

    Football could learn a lot from with regards to discipline i.e. chatting back to the referee and foul and abusive language.

    Can you tell me if you have ever played the game Robbo? Also, what do you mean by league having "much clearer play the ball and tackle areas?" This goes without saying as there isn't a play the ball area in union. They are two different sports so you can't directly compare every aspect of both.

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  • 5. At 3:43pm on 20 Aug 2009, ahmedjeffersontyke wrote:

    The above should say "learn a lot from rugby".

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  • 6. At 3:47pm on 20 Aug 2009, TrotterUSA wrote:

    A nice nod to league Robbo, the real Rugby! Faster, harder and a hundred times better to watch! Good for Burnley too, there'll be a few more like that before next May!

    I don't know how so many expected Owen to change his concrete boots by going to Old Trafford, the soles have been getting thicker for years now, once again, the story was better than the movie but for free I suppose they'll reckon it was just about worth finding out.

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  • 7. At 3:49pm on 20 Aug 2009, UlsterDave wrote:

    First time poster on your blog Robbo, but followed it for a long time. It's just about the only thing that gets me through the work day- hitting refresh until a new blog appears! Anyway your right about Rugby- bunch of 20 stone thugs who think they can get away with GBH because they say 'Golly Gosh I'm ever so sorry' instead of 'do one'.....

    I followed the Burnley game and nearly cried with delight when Sir Whiskys special timepiece finally ran out!! I'm going to stick my neck out and say Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal, United in that order come the end of days......with Abu Dhabi finishing somewhere between 6th (5th will be spurs) and 10th. Followed immediately after by Mark Hughes being ceremoniously hung, draw, quartered then sacked. And of course the obligatory "It's a transition period for the club- Hughes did his best but it was 'im wot failed us"

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  • 8. At 3:51pm on 20 Aug 2009, WaxyGodfather wrote:

    Once again Robbo blogs about a sport he doesn't understand or appreciate and attempts to be witty about it.
    Im sick and tired of him having a pop at rugby whenever he can.
    Rugby is a much superior game to wendyball in many aspects, the main being the respect of the referee and the attitude of the fans.
    I'm also shocked that instead of focusing on his own team (although lets face facts who would want to focus on Middlesborough) he decides to laugh at Manchester United losing to a hard working and industrious Burnley team.
    It just shows what a small minded and petty man he is and anyone who also laughed at this needs their head examined.

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  • 9. At 3:51pm on 20 Aug 2009, Parish87 wrote:

    If Liverpool losing away first game of the season to a team who hasn't lost at home for 9 months is us "out of the title race" and "in crisis", then what is Man Utd losing away to a newly promoted team and a terrible performance (albeit win) at home against another promoted team?

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  • 10. At 3:53pm on 20 Aug 2009, MajorStom wrote:

    It would be nice if you actually did some research before writing on a topic you obviously don't watch, Robbo. William Webb Ellis did not invent rugby, and rugby did not come about from football. If anything it was the other way around (although it was called football). In football, you could pick the ball up and run with it as much as you liked. It was only when there was a split between different schools when they wanted to reduce injuries that caused pupils to miss classes. So a lot of schools started banning things like beating another player up, picking the ball up, etc, etc. Rugby school, on the other hand, banned kicking the ball (IIRC). So please research and don't say that football came first, as it didn't.

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  • 11. At 3:57pm on 20 Aug 2009, Bangforyourbuck wrote:

    @8 I see you make no reference to the shocking event in question before trying to defend rugby to the hilt. Now I love rugby (however it is fourth behind football, boxing and cricket) but you can't deny that the sport's once whiter-than-white reputation is now a slight shade of brown.

    Also, every non-Man U supporting fan in the country (and some abroad) laughed at the Burnley result, do we all need our heads examined?

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  • 12. At 3:58pm on 20 Aug 2009, GazUtd wrote:


    Right, how to do this without calling anyone names.

    Excellent piece Robbo, don't know about the hammering but a deserved win none the less, and refreshing to see you acknowledged that Fergie was gracious ni defeat. Unlike one other website this morning who actually said he was patronising, and I wonder how these ridiculous 'facts' get started. You stand by your Spurs for top 4 and I'll stand by my Pool out of it.

    As for the rugger, it's surprising how quiet all the self-righteous have become over the last while. I read a great piece on the BBC website not so long ago about how the sport was fast becoming a joke. Yes the footie does have its share of prima-donnas but at least they are dressed up like women most of the time, not cheats and thugs dressed up as sportsmen.

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  • 13. At 3:59pm on 20 Aug 2009, Cymruambyth wrote:

    So rugby has one week of controversy (admittedly an embarrassing incident for all involved) but your attempt to jump on the high horse and suddenly make football seem like a much more respectable sport than football is pathetic. How long have you been waiting to for a story like this to break so you can have that rant?
    This is one incident of cheating, compare that with the number of high profile footballers who week in week out dive or try to intimidate the referee by shout obscenities in his face.
    And as for calling rugby a minority sport? If the only way to qualify rugby as a major sport is if the players earn weekly six figure salaries, then long may it continue to be a minority sport.......

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  • 14. At 3:59pm on 20 Aug 2009, Cymruambyth wrote:

    So rugby has one week of controversy (admittedly an embarrassing incident for all involved) but your attempt to jump on the high horse and suddenly make football seem like a much more respectable sport than rugby is pathetic. How long have you been waiting to for a story like this to break so you can have that rant?
    This is one incident of cheating, compare that with the number of high profile footballers who week in week out dive or try to intimidate the referee by shout obscenities in his face.
    And as for calling rugby a minority sport? If the only way to qualify rugby as a major sport is if the players earn weekly six figure salaries, then long may it continue to be a minority sport.......

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  • 15. At 4:02pm on 20 Aug 2009, donshak wrote:

    Owite our Robbo?!

    Ahhh why did you have to write about rugby....boringgg!

    we want FOOTY FOOTY FOOTY

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  • 16. At 4:05pm on 20 Aug 2009, GazUtd wrote:


    #13 and #14

    So ridiculous you had to post it twice?

    "So rugby has one week of controversy" - Were you only born last week? Rugby has had controversy for practically its whole existence. The reasons we don't read about it as much are a) because it IS a minority sport and simply not as many people are interested. A footballer wearing a pink hat sells more papers than whatever a rugby player does. And b) the hooray brigade a la The Daily Mail would much prefer to tell us that a footballer looked at someone funny than a rugby player ripped someones leg off.

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  • 17. At 4:06pm on 20 Aug 2009, citymikeok wrote:

    not commenting on the rugby

    i am a football fan

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    well done to burnley and the rest of football is delighted

    united area spent force and i for one am delighted it is time for man city to be the genuine and best team in manchester

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  • 18. At 4:11pm on 20 Aug 2009, UlsterDave wrote:

    Gaz Utd.....

    I truly hope your right about the 'pool being knocked out of the big 3 (Arsenal are 4th by virtue of other teams slowly building while they degrade to their level). Their arrogance is annoying in the extreme. That said, I have my dislikes about all of the 'big' clubs! Anyone got any predictions for the SPL? And please no sarcastic :"It'll be Rangers or Celtic" comments...try and be a wee bit more inventive and actually pick one.....

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  • 19. At 4:12pm on 20 Aug 2009, Bertie Button wrote:

    Away The Lads:

    What a week for Robbo?

    Boro winning at the mighty Scunthorpe and BurnLEEEEEE. We just need our Test batsmen to show some guile.

    It was ironic, just like that Alayna Morrisete song from bygone years:

    Burnley beat UTD for the first time since 1968 and CITY beat Barcelona at the Nou Camp. Is this the sign of things to come?

    Champions League footy for CITY, mid-table mediocracy for UTD?

    Mr. Feguson may have to actually manage this year, instead of dipping into the Glazer's deep pockets and buying a goal-scorer. It's a challenge because you dont win anything with a kids - or a past-it goalscorer with dodgy hams upfront."

    Cheers.

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  • 20. At 4:13pm on 20 Aug 2009, BeyondThePale wrote:

    "Jermain Defoe must be laughing into his mineral water with Spurs being top. (Top four side this year, I tells ya.)"

    Taking the place of the Ronaldo-less Manc Untied, obviously.

    Berbatov looks about as pleased with being Owen's stand-in as the bloke asked to hold Von Staufenburg's bag while he went out for a tab; Rooney simply cannot handle the pressure; and the Manc midfield is, quite simply, comical.

    Europa League beckons for the McFans.

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  • 21. At 4:32pm on 20 Aug 2009, JoeDavisRoach wrote:

    Well your last blog deserved an award for being the most pointless peice of "comedy journalism" I have ever read but this one here is in a league of its own.

    The "Schalke Burger" joke was utterly cringing. A David Brent like moment except for the fact you were trying to be genuinly funny.

    No surprises the rest of the blog was utterly useless aswell as BBCs resident stereotyped northerner droned on about rugby and Man utd. Again, utterly rehashed tripe thats been used on a weekly basis.

    If this sort of nonsense must be posted surley you could do it on a monthly basis as opposed to using the same tired jokes and exhausted cliches on aa almost daily basis?

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  • 22. At 4:34pm on 20 Aug 2009, Big_F wrote:

    I have long had an argument with a friend about which is the better sport (me obviously picking football)!!! However this 'bloodgate' scandal just sent him over the edge and he know longer has any basis of arguments as Robbo correctly says, having 30 blutos on the pitch beating each other is somehow more 'gentleman' like than diving??? I literally rolled on the floor with laughter as i saw the score on SSN, unfortuantely i missed Fergies 'interview' (hoping it be a rant again), but hands up to him if he was actually gracious in defeat (however i still doubt it)!! HA

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  • 23. At 4:37pm on 20 Aug 2009, drunkenrugby wrote:

    I love rugby and granted burger, bath and Quins have done the sport no favors (professionalism being the eventual evils of all sports!) but it is the turn of the footy fans to give back some of the banter I have given them for the game of rugby being more honest so I’ll take it on the chin.
    But let’s put this into perspective aside from bringing cheating to whole new levels Quins and a previously well respected man in all of world rugby, Dean Richards have brought the game I love into disrepute, but rugby will survive and it will continue to be the game I love. One bad incident (or a small number of incidents in this case and however much fake blood you want,) will not change the facts that football fans around the world will continue to wear Burberry, continue to riot at the next major world tournament, will throw coins at the officials (or old mobile phones if you support Galatasaray fan), while the players who are supposed to be model professionals will hold the club they love to ransom (Mr. Terry) and proclaiming they love the sport and are a model professional! So have your swing foot fans because rugby will get through this minority sport of not, lets see how long it is before another footie player gets caught in a gang bang, dealing coke, crashing his car while drunk because its become news that isn’t news anymore!

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  • 24. At 4:38pm on 20 Aug 2009, The One-Armed Man wrote:

    I'm a United fan and as annoyed as I am that we lost against Burnley, I'm really not worried at this stage. People wil obviously go on about Ronaldo because he was such a big threat last season, but we've still got a quality squad. I'm willing to accept that we're not going to be as good without him and Tevez and maybe we won't win anything this season or next, but its not like we're going to suddenly slide down the table struggling to get into the UEFA cup (Refuse to call it Europa League, sounds like someone invented another continent).

    The top 4 will remain the top 4 for at least this season and possibly next. I'm hoping and praying Owen gets a goal soon to boost his confidence, and once we adjust to not having Ronaldo on the pitch we'll be challenging again.

    Maybe another striker is needed to just give us an extra option but after 22 going on 23 years of good times, I have to say I trust Sir Alex, he's rarely gone wrong!

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  • 25. At 4:39pm on 20 Aug 2009, Tatloaf wrote:

    "And as for calling rugby a minority sport? If the only way to qualify rugby as a major sport is if the players earn weekly six figure salaries, then long may it continue to be a minority sport......."

    No, its a minority sport because so few countries play it... ...and in those countries (NZ aside) its not the biggest sport and not many people in those countries really care. Ronaldo stepping into a club with a leggy blonde gets more coverage which is pretty sad!

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  • 26. At 4:43pm on 20 Aug 2009, guyastral wrote:

    The One-Armed Man wrote:

    ... the UEFA cup (Refuse to call it Europa League, sounds like someone invented another continent).... HAHAHA! Europa is the actual name for Europe!!!!

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  • 27. At 4:44pm on 20 Aug 2009, nisteljani wrote:

    Comment #9, The One And Only Quintuple - all is not yet lost, we have 2 more points than we had last season in the corresponding fixtures. Still, I'm sure we'll pick others to drop points against ...

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  • 28. At 4:50pm on 20 Aug 2009, beardedshrimper wrote:

    Fair play to Ferguson for saying well play to Burnley, someone like Wenger would have complained about Burnley trying to tackle his team

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  • 29. At 4:54pm on 20 Aug 2009, Wardy4Ireland wrote:

    JoeDavisRoach wrote:
    Well your last blog deserved an award for being the most pointless peice of "comedy journalism" I have ever read but this one here is in a league of its own.
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    It obviously made you come back for more and i'm sure you'll read his next article too!

    Nice work Robbo!

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  • 30. At 4:55pm on 20 Aug 2009, allufc wrote:

    Why do people read Robbo and then complain about his sense of humour - it's like going to see Lee Evans live and then declaring afterwards 'but I don't like Lee Evans and I don't find him funny!' If you don't like Robbo's humour (and I do) then DON'T READ IT!!!!!

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  • 31. At 4:59pm on 20 Aug 2009, YeboahYeboah wrote:

    Having played Union in the eighties, the only excuse for feigning injury 5 minutes from full time was to avoid Mad Mick the 20st prop and his wandering hands in the communal bath. Oh and get to the bar first.

    Union is the better game to play and League league best to watch, twas ever thus.

    As a Leeds fan........Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

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  • 32. At 5:03pm on 20 Aug 2009, RedWhiteandermblue wrote:

    "In football, you could pick the ball up and run with it..."

    Isn't it glorious that you still can, in the good old US of A?

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  • 33. At 5:04pm on 20 Aug 2009, JoeDavisRoach wrote:

    allufc wrote:
    Why do people read Robbo and then complain about his sense of humour - it's like going to see Lee Evans live and then declaring afterwards 'but I don't like Lee Evans and I don't find him funny!' If you don't like Robbo's humour (and I do) then DON'T READ IT!!!!!

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    Robbo isnt real beleive it or not. So I am not, in fact, reading "Robbos" sense of humour. It is a fictional, highly irratating character based on a stereotypical working class northerner devised by a "comedian" in the BBC.

    Twice a week he posts what is pretty much a tired cliched outlook on sport where he re-uses the same old jokes, outlooks and cliches and written in a colloquail northern accent no less just to top it off. I am aware that he has his own following of fans that show up weekly - much the same way as as someone who likes Friends or the Simpsons will happily sit through an episode they have watched 20 times in the past. However it has to pointed out that this blog is utterly devoid of talent even if it does entertain a minority.

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  • 34. At 5:11pm on 20 Aug 2009, U14029869 wrote:

    Well, this blog has surely taken journalism about as low as it can possibly go. Not only do we have half-witted fictional characters, that'd be you Niall, criticising sports they clearly know virtually nothing about we now aren't even safe from the functionally illiterate (in the wikipedia entry you quoted yourself Niall it clearly states that picking up the ball was legal and that running with it was the way he which William Webb Ellis broke the rules).

    And then you start complaining on the grounds that rugby players are getting bigger? What? Here's a link to a piece written by a real journalist on football just last week http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/a/arsenal/8192417.stm

    Oh look he's talking about how size is important in the premier league as well. Whoever would have imagined size would be important in a physical contact sport. Certainly not TweedleNorthernDumb.

    The less said about your actual attempts to provide some sort of insightful commentary on football the better. The fact there are over 2 million people in the UK unemployed and yet you have a job really sickens me Niall. I hope for your sake you're at least donating away whatever the BBC pays you to charity.

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  • 35. At 5:11pm on 20 Aug 2009, Wardy4Ireland wrote:

    JoeDavisRoach - having read your previous posts by clicking on your name it becomes clear that you are a serial whinger! Get a life, it's a blog if you don't like it stop coming back every week just to criticise and tell others we shouldn't be reading it! Quite ironic really as you obviously read it on a weekly basis anyway!

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  • 36. At 5:17pm on 20 Aug 2009, JoeDavisRoach wrote:

    Wardy4Ireland wrote:
    JoeDavisRoach - having read your previous posts by clicking on your name it becomes clear that you are a serial whinger! Get a life, it's a blog if you don't like it stop coming back every week just to criticise and tell others we shouldn't be reading it! Quite ironic really as you obviously read it on a weekly basis anyway
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    Well seeing as Ive never told anyone they shouldnt read it, when you said you looked over my previous posts you are one of:

    a. a liar
    b. an idiot
    c. both of the above

    I dont care how many people read it, I care about why its written in the first place.

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  • 37. At 5:28pm on 20 Aug 2009, whatbill wrote:

    It is quite funny that every time there is a major football diving incident, a "Josh from Gloucestershire" will inevitably come on the blogs and talk about Rugby being the real man's game.

    The point about Rugby fans being better behaved is fair enough, but most of them have that winning combination of wealth and dimness to not really know or care whats going on. "Gutted not to win the world cup chaps but got a box at Ascot next week so can't be too downcast". Do they feel the pain of defeat the way football fans do? I think not...

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  • 38. At 5:33pm on 20 Aug 2009, U14029869 wrote:

    At 5:28pm on 20 Aug 2009, whatbill wrote:

    It is quite funny that every time there is a major football diving incident, a "Josh from Gloucestershire" will inevitably come on the blogs and talk about Rugby being the real man's game.

    The point about Rugby fans being better behaved is fair enough, but most of them have that winning combination of wealth and dimness to not really know or care whats going on. "Gutted not to win the world cup chaps but got a box at Ascot next week so can't be too downcast". Do they feel the pain of defeat the way football fans do? I think not...


    Yeah, it sure is a real shame that rugby union fans don't feel the pain of defeat and go out and riot after they lose and/or stab opposition fans. You seem to have less of a grip on reality than our dear friend Niall Ashdown, who at his point I'm afraid might actually believe he really is this Robbo Robson character.

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  • 39. At 5:35pm on 20 Aug 2009, OrientWob wrote:

    Robbo, good blog as ever, shame it didn't coincide with the he/she saga going on at the world championships, forget Burnley & bloodgate, this is really where I want your opinion.

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  • 40. At 5:36pm on 20 Aug 2009, ahmedjeffersontyke wrote:

    #37 Can you not try and justify your opinions with something other than a really poor stereotype?

    Deary me.

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  • 41. At 5:40pm on 20 Aug 2009, HoofHearted87 wrote:

    I played both Rugby and Football growing up and as for the never-ending saga regarding gentlemen rugby players vs. stripclub visiting, drug-using hooligan football players, I have to cite the one and only Mr. Puff Daddy, "Mo Money, Mo Problems". Great article

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  • 42. At 5:41pm on 20 Aug 2009, whatbill wrote:

    Yeah, it sure is a real shame that rugby union fans don't feel the pain of defeat and go out and riot after they lose and/or stab opposition fans. You seem to have less of a grip on reality than our dear friend Niall Ashdown, who at his point I'm afraid might actually believe he really is this Robbo Robson character.

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    Having a grip on reality, you'll be aware that the vast majority of football fans don't do that. And Robbo gets outed about once a blog now, he's on wikipedia, its not big or clever.

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  • 43. At 5:54pm on 20 Aug 2009, U14029869 wrote:

    At 5:41pm on 20 Aug 2009, whatbill wrote:
    Having a grip on reality, you'll be aware that the vast majority of football fans don't do that. And Robbo gets outed about once a blog now, he's on wikipedia, its not big or clever.

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    Obviously. However you implied that the sacrifice of having football hooliganism is somehow worth it because most football fans care more about the game. Nonetheless I'm not really bothered spending my time arguing with someone who probably is the real life intellectual equivalent of robbo robson.

    As for outing him it certainly isn't new. However neither is the repetitive brand of complete rubbish that Niall churns out two or three times a week. When he stops spewing his garbage over the internet I'll be sure to stop pointing out that he's spewing garbage. Niall, the ball is in your court.

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  • 44. At 5:59pm on 20 Aug 2009, dannnytheborofan wrote:

    RE: Post 8 - Waxygodfather
    'I'm also shocked that instead of focusing on his own team (although lets face facts who would want to focus on Middlesborough)'

    Next time mate, 'cause this gets on my wick, if you are going to make a derrogatory comment about Middlesbrough, can you please be informed enough to spell it right. The likelihood is that you dont follow Championship football and don't realise that we have not conceded this year, against teams who, with the utmost respect to Burnley, and probably at the same standard as they are.
    But you probably won't have heard of teams like Swansea or Scunthorpe, because you only follow the big league!

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  • 45. At 6:00pm on 20 Aug 2009, mechkov wrote:

    Rugby is a game for those latent or closet – everybody know that. However, at least Rugby Union puts on the front of being manly – unlike League which a real mincing game.

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  • 46. At 6:10pm on 20 Aug 2009, BeyondThePale wrote:

    Have you heard that geezer bird from the Athletics?

    I think someone ran out of money half-way through their trip to Thailand and couldn't get the procedure finished.

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  • 47. At 6:12pm on 20 Aug 2009, Shrimp05 wrote:

    Having read all the comments above it is obvious that the basis for most of the arguments put across are 'hooligan'/'toff' stereotypes or completely wild statements based on mis-representation and non-factual information.

    Anyway having played both rugby and football, I'd like to put across my views on the games, see of it sheds any light on the argument. I am and always have been a hugely passionate fan of football and a relative novice to rugby but the difference has always struck me as large.

    In my opinion football is a much more technical game in which more skill is required, certainly at the level I play both sports anyway and comparing the positions I play in - the wing in both cases. Rugby is great for developing strength and stamina but not especially any extra technical abilities.

    Yet rugby has always struck me as a fairer, more honest game in which respect and the correct level of discipline is shown by players, not just to officials but, generally, to each other as well (last week's incident as an exception, of course). Gone are the days of football when players would play for the love of the game and were polite, modest and grounded. It has gone so far now the damage caused by ridiculous amounts of money is irreparable.

    That's my view, anyway.
    As for the football last night - Johnson for Liverpool was outstanding - brilliant buy for Rafa. Really pleased for Burnley, going there on the first home game for the Clarets was always going to be difficult up against such passionate support and they really stepped up. Did Sir Alex underestimate them? Perhaps.
    As for the rubbish about the changing rooms having seen the dressing rooms at OT many times from having worked there they are nothing special in terms of size, just standard. What a poor excuse.

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  • 48. At 6:15pm on 20 Aug 2009, An_der_son wrote:

    Hilarious, one united defeat and everyone starts shouting about how united will find it hard to get in the top 4. It is ONE loss, and am i the only one who is already getting annoyed with people saying "if they'd of had Ronaldo they would of won", can i remind you United NEVER start the season well and are lucky to get one win in the first 3 games.

    Dont speak too soon, it's ONE game against a team which for them was their cup final. However, i do think unless we get one world class player before the transfer window shuts we have NO chance in the champions league. Premier league i still believe we can do it, but one great signing will ease my mind.

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  • 49. At 6:19pm on 20 Aug 2009, BeyondThePale wrote:

    Shrimp05 - couldn't agree more re: Johnson.

    Reminds me a lot of when we got Torres - the usual suspects berating Benitez on his supposedly lavish spending only to have their scoffing shoved down their throats and the hollaring swiftly dying down to a sad 'hurumph'.

    They can't even have a pop at Lucas as he's starting to really show what he can do!

    Still, there's always our new old Greek and they can make hay with our Italian for a month or two.

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  • 50. At 6:19pm on 20 Aug 2009, whatbill wrote:

    Obviously. However you implied that the sacrifice of having football hooliganism is somehow worth it because most football fans care more about the game. Nonetheless I'm not really bothered spending my time arguing with someone who probably is the real life intellectual equivalent of robbo robson.

    -------------------------------------------

    Is that the fictional Robbo Robson you're refering to or Niall, the man behind the mask? Just trying to work out how insulted I should be...

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  • 51. At 6:22pm on 20 Aug 2009, Fin wrote:

    Some people prefer rugby. Others prefer football. Still others enjoy both equally. We all know of idiots who play football. We also know of idiots who play rugby. And there are plenty idiots who play neither. It's just sport. Is it too much to ask that we respect everyone else's preference and just get on with enjoying whatever sport or pastime we enjoy! For myself, I'll keep watching and coaching/playing both!

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  • 52. At 6:22pm on 20 Aug 2009, BeyondThePale wrote:

    I'm still to work out why rugby is called the gentleman's game, given that they defecate in pint pots for fun, spend far too much time grabbing for each others' testes and tend to be too stupid to realise that they've just been kicked in the face.

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  • 53. At 6:28pm on 20 Aug 2009, BeyondThePale wrote:

    I have a mate from when I lived in London, a proponent of this gentlemanly art - huge Welsh bloke - who returned from the cinema having watched Schindler's List.

    "You've got to see that film" he bellowed; everyone expected him to wax lyrical on the horror of the piece, the revolutionary cinematic technique, the historical significance of the movie and its place in the ongoing dissection of the subject.

    "It's got loads of t** in it."

    Quite the gentleman.

    (Still funny at the time, though)

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  • 54. At 6:38pm on 20 Aug 2009, kheruvim wrote:

    "I dont care how many people read it, I care about why its written in the first place."
    ---------------
    Well the JoeDavisRoach why don't you start doing the world a favour and get rid of real tripe such as The Daily Star, News of the World, SkyNews' Have Your Say, Dan Brown, political manifesto writers, instead of deliberately going to a blog you don't like anway, only to complain about it... Or is it easier to be condescending about a harmless piece of diversion, written by someone who has other jobs within the organisation anyway, and attempt to use long words in order to make yourself look intelligent, even though you do spell them incorrectly, as opposed to actually taking some form of action about larger and more widespread rubbish that is written?

    As another aside - as much as I think people posting "First" or similar is pathetic, I must tip my hat to the moderators for allowing such a comment to go out in place three just to highlight how risible it is to be excited about commenting.

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  • 55. At 6:39pm on 20 Aug 2009, SuperPav9 wrote:

    the whole of the 'Bloodgate' incident is a shame to rugby and to sport in general
    and Robbo - fyi, props tend to be bigger than locks
    just a techniclaity i had to clear up for you

    good on Burnley, Spurs for the League (or at least some kind of silverware)

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  • 56. At 6:43pm on 20 Aug 2009, BeyondThePale wrote:

    "the whole of the 'Bloodgate' incident is a shame to rugby and to sport in general"

    lackluster,

    i watched Stuart Barnes the other day saying that he knows for a fact that it's gone on for years, going back to when he was playing.

    That senior figures in the game acknowledge this and have said absolutely nothing about it up to now is more shameful, I would suggest.

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  • 57. At 6:54pm on 20 Aug 2009, chucksavage7 wrote:

    To all gentlemen that commented during the Lions tour on the Schalke Burger incident...


    ..Can’t believe that this bloodgate scandal took place on the British Isles!

    ...I thought for a moment (and according to your pathetic comments) that only the South Africans cheat.

    ...so where are all you self righteous Lion fans, care to comment...

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  • 58. At 6:58pm on 20 Aug 2009, BeyondThePale wrote:

    Shocking.

    The South Africans are whiter than white.

    Hang on, that's not right, is it...

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  • 59. At 6:59pm on 20 Aug 2009, chucksavage7 wrote:

    ....well played Burnley!

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  • 60. At 7:03pm on 20 Aug 2009, JoeDavisRoach wrote:

    To all gentlemen that commented during the Lions tour on the Schalke Burger incident...


    ..Can’t believe that this bloodgate scandal took place on the British Isles!

    ...I thought for a moment (and according to your pathetic comments) that only the South Africans cheat.

    ...so where are all you self righteous Lion fans, care to comment...
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    You will be able able to spot us walking around with "Justice for Dean Richards" armbands and condoning cheating, gouging, biting and stamping to the media.

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  • 61. At 7:09pm on 20 Aug 2009, wedontknowfootball wrote:

    Pops to Burnley for the great win. Was a little frustrated by United but this team has the tendency to think that they have a God-given right to win matches. Maybe they were expecting Burnley to just roll over and let them walk all over the team.

    This will be a good wake-up call to the team. I’m sure Ferguson gave some kicks up their rear ends in the dressing room. Ryan Giggs was exemplary in his commitment and continuous high standards.

    http://wedontknowfootball.com/

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  • 62. At 7:13pm on 20 Aug 2009, jin wrote:

    wow, not only is the original article ill-informed but so are numerous comments after! first, i don't think that football fans are as bad as many are suggesting. second, rugby fans aren't all upper class. third, there are so few games of rugby that descend into a 30 man brawl that i can't even think of more than five and i've been watching rugby for a number of years (one exception was the epic 30 man+ fight between Gloucester and Newcastle a number of years ago where even the subs got involved). there were more points i was going to make but my mind wandered after i thought of the Gloucester game.

    one of central points was that, although this "scandal" seems to have hit some headlines, it would be useful if some basic research could be done. if you're payed for this blogging, please tell me how as i'm sure its a far more interesting tale than your generic views on rugby, football and any other sport that you try and lay your hands on. i don't read your blog ordinarily as when i read it previously i found it uninteresting, but i thought it might be different to see your take on the current affairs. clearly my original dislike for your style was well founded and i shall actively avoid this from now on.

    back to rugby being in a state of ill-repute, i cannot see this incident (or any other over this past year) making too many waves with the real supporters other than giving us something to chat about pre-match. i can't say i liked fair weather supporters before, but if they're turned away from the sport by something like this then they were never really going to stick with it. fortunately clubs like Gloucester, Leicester and Northampton can cope as they have a more than adequate fan base, but others like bath, bristol and wasps might struggle (considering the post-world-cup-win fans have been and gone).

    another point to take from the recent incident with Richards is that he supposedly did similar illegal activities before/after. really brings alive the chant "same old leicester, always cheating" because they probably were. but one thing that you failed to go into is how the ERB, RFU and IRB have gone about resolving some of these issues. Richards was banned for three years, from every aspect of the game! the rules have been changed to stop front row injuries causing uncontested scrums. the bath three will probably never play the game at the same level ever again (one having already retired). Burger was always known as a thug, but he plays to the edge of the rules and keeps on going to see how far he can go (knowing what the limit is is what sets a good player from a great). Matt Stevens went to rehab after admitting to a serious addiction (something i would've liked to have seen more of from high profile footballers!)

    to place blame on people for their failings because they're meant to be role models also smacks of a lack of clear thinking. role models start at home, but they're all around us in our everyday lives, not just those you see on tv or in magazines. the fact that something scandalous sells newspapers does not mean it is therefore an inherent failing of the person/sport/world, it just shows that we as a mass consumer market like to see other people's failings in order to avert ourselves from our own to make us feel better. the fact that football players get more headlines merely shows that they are generally the more idiotic and get themselves into more embarrassing and controversial situations than others. point and case would be that Richards had the intelligence to get away with it for as long as he did. the fact that the winger winked at the coaches as he went off to be replaced by someone who could only hobble at best kinda gave away the plot, not Richards himself.

    in summary, poor article, poor comments and poor us as the newspapers and mass media systems now have it there heads that all we ever want to read is about scandal. to reference the bard, "a plague on both our houses".

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  • 63. At 7:15pm on 20 Aug 2009, Tinhead_Ned wrote:

    Perhaps thug's game watched by gentlemen would be more appropriate for rugby, although in contrast to football, once off the pitch the players stop with the handbags and go have a beer together instead...instead of throwing food at each other in the tunnel or picking fights with groundsmen

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  • 64. At 7:15pm on 20 Aug 2009, BeyondThePale wrote:

    wedontknowfootball,

    Yesterday's team, yesterday's manager.

    Need to get rid now - what's the point of letting him rebuild another side when he's not going to be around?

    All good things come to and end and Utd have had it very, very good - but to hang onto Ferguson smacks of indecision, if not a little worry.

    If you were head of a multi-billion corporation that's obviously in need of a rebuild, would you leave it to a very old man who's talked of retirement time and again?

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  • 65. At 7:24pm on 20 Aug 2009, sgu06sab wrote:

    a) why don't any of you seem to understand that its pretty much a joke column robbo writes
    b) he is quite clearly being controversial to get mugs like you to make comments like 'Omg that is so out of order stop writing' and get a reaction.
    c) if it were a serious column he'd use his real name, comment on sport unbiasedly etc, but he never claims to be a real sports writer so why compare him to any, i think the fact you can find this under 'fun and games' on the BBC website means that what is written should, hmm yeah probably be taken with a pinch of salt.

    the fact that you clearly don't understand this bemuses me completely, but keep it up, as it is highly amusing, and obviously keeping him in a job, which is great as his posts are hilarious as well.

    anddd just to echo what others have said, if its 'always the same old crap' etc, why do you keep reading it...it really does make no sense, i swear half the people on the internet read stuff like this solely with the intention to pick holes in and shoot ppl down, they must know the author couldn't care one bit as long he gets paid!

    also, yes the fans are better in rugby, they can mix, but does that really make the sport of rugby better than football? no. take a sunday league game for both sports, ie no fans and then try and make the comparisons. for me one of the best things about football is that it is about one of the only major sports that is completley the same at amateur village level than it is at professional level - a fair playing field for all.
    no video replay etc. keep it that way.

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  • 66. At 7:25pm on 20 Aug 2009, PLN wrote:

    Love the blog, robbo (or whoever you are) - don't be put off by all the pro-moaners.

    Anyway, got to laugh at all the brave defenders of the gentle art of rugger. Loads of times players have punched other players in full view of everyone and just got a stern word from the ref or at most a sin-bin.

    If a footie player (sorry, underclass-scumbag-with-too-much-money) did that, he'd be bl**dy arrested, no less.

    And where were the 'gentlemen' who let that kid be hung out to dry. Not much loyalty shown there, eh!

    PS Robbo, did you once have a Sunday spot on Radio Five many moons ago?

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  • 67. At 7:26pm on 20 Aug 2009, DenistheGenius wrote:

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  • 68. At 7:27pm on 20 Aug 2009, sgu06sab wrote:

    also as an aside, someone said that if rugby were to be a major sport meaning they'd be on 6 figure weekly salaries a week there glad it isn't, why exactly? i don't understand other sports fans feelings on this. its just supply and demand. football IS a more popular sport, so it generates more revenue and a chance for people to make money. would you prefer the chairman to sit there and keep it all? or say that they should let people in for a lot less, and pay lower wage? because in ANY line of work if that was your management strategy you'd be laughed out of the office quicker than you could say man u aren't gonna win anything without ronaldo.

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  • 69. At 7:28pm on 20 Aug 2009, BeyondThePale wrote:

    and wedontknowfootball,

    What's this drivel?

    "Does this spell the end for Daniel Agger? With Jamie Carragher and Martin Skrtel now regulars in the side, and the arrival of Kyrgiakos whom I’m sure will be next in line seeing as Agger’s injured, the Danish International may just find himself out in the cold. Unless Rafa has plans to play either a 5-3-2, or play Agger at left-back. But that’d mean the end for Fabio Aurelio. AC Milan have recently shown big interest in Agger, and with the transfer window deadline still two weeks away, there’s still plenty of time for them to come calling again."

    Are you seriously suggesting that Liverpool has brought in a 30 year old to replace one of the best up-and-coming defenders in the English game?

    If so, I'd go back to playing with myself if I were you.

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  • 70. At 7:30pm on 20 Aug 2009, BeyondThePale wrote:

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  • 71. At 7:32pm on 20 Aug 2009, shinywillie1980 wrote:

    Some people have too much time on their hands and is it really bugging everyone el;se when people have to copy entirely someone elses post and put one 'witty' comment below it. please save us time and get to your point sooner, or preferably as the points you make are completely pointless just don't bother. As has been mentioned before if you don't like it don't keep reading it.

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  • 72. At 7:32pm on 20 Aug 2009, BeyondThePale wrote:

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  • 74. At 7:50pm on 20 Aug 2009, CowshedGrecian wrote:

    Nice one Burnley, so that's why I'd been sweating over a lack of football this summer. Wolves and Brum have both wracked up wins to boot. Could be a long season for Pompey. Sure Spurs will be scraped down from the ceiling soon enough

    http://www.ifotbol.com/

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  • 75. At 7:50pm on 20 Aug 2009, PLN wrote:

    chucksavage7 #57 - it's a bit of a long shot comparing amateur dramatics with trying to maim somebody. But I take your point about the pomposity.

    BeyondThePale, #70 and #72 - You've lived up to your name. Hat's Off!

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  • 76. At 7:51pm on 20 Aug 2009, Robokopthe3rd wrote:

    Great that Burnley won! But neither Liverpool or the mancs will be out of the top four. Of course it would be great if Man u were, but I think they`ll come third. But for sure they wont win the title this season. Its Liverpool v Chelsea. Spurs doing well, but there`s usually always one team who is a suprise package. Last year Hull, this year Spurs.

    As for football v rugby...

    I have been to the Amazon rain forest in Peru some years agao, staying a week with a local tribe...they had no running water, no electricity, no cattle, not even a proper toilet (which was a challenge, I can tell you)! But what they DID have was a football pitch! Dirt pitch with wooden goals. Football is truly the global game, and can be played anywhere (they did`n`t have a ball...we gave one to them).

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  • 77. At 8:10pm on 20 Aug 2009, DenistheGenius wrote:

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  • 78. At 8:13pm on 20 Aug 2009, BeyondThePale wrote:

    paul,

    Life's about little victories.

    As opposed to little Hitlers.

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  • 79. At 8:17pm on 20 Aug 2009, Jason Burton wrote:

    Well done BBC - your double standards are staggering - I made some comments on the blog concerning the Quins/Dean Richards incident. The moderator took over an hour to let comments through....because it was a dodgy subject and the Beeb had to make sure their legal backside was covered. Yet, the footy boys....and Ive nothing against the overpaid professional shoppers, can write quite inflamatory comments on here and they are treated as a bit of banter (which Im sure they are).
    Robbo...stick to football my friend, there are less rules to confuse you. As for implying that rugby is for hooray Henry's....it may be like that the closer you get to Twickers but not this side of the Severn Bridge matey.
    Rugby not perfect....correct.
    Dean Richards an idiot.....correct
    Punishments deserved.....correct
    Footy boys forgetting; betting corruption and match fixing, betting, drug and alchohol addiction, mass riotting, European club competition bans, abuse to referees, violence towards fans, coin throwing, city centres trashed, public transport brought to a standstill.......an entire UK nation embarressed and labelled as thugs, yobs and nazi's.
    Have your couple of weeks of morral high ground guys....but I bet you get to the bottom of slope quicker than we do - Grow up and deal with it.

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  • 80. At 8:24pm on 20 Aug 2009, DenistheGenius wrote:

    arse.
    there, i wrote it again.

    could you please put my original post back up now?
    cheers.

    oh, and when

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  • 81. At 8:26pm on 20 Aug 2009, DenistheGenius wrote:

    ...do we get some Boro news, RobBoro? God knows you're our only source for happenings that obscure!

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  • 82. At 8:31pm on 20 Aug 2009, Medieval-Evil wrote:

    I am very much a football fan, but I think it's a shame people are jumping on recent scandals in rugby (albeit ones that have been going on a long while) to imply that it is somehow more corrupt than football.

    Even as a devotee to the beautiful game and a mere casual observer of egg-chasing, I can see that football should take after rugby in some respects - no back chat to refs being the prime example, but also use of goal-line technology etc.

    And surely having sportsmen who don't fall over at the slightest touch is preferable in a contact game?

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  • 83. At 8:38pm on 20 Aug 2009, Robbo Robson wrote:

    JesusF and JoeDavisRoach - I rise above your remarks, particularly as you are clearly both works of fiction. JesusF is a stationary clerk from Aylesbury and JoeDavisRoach is just getting chippy cos his Dad's going to make him resit his Film and Media Studies A level. I know this for a fact as I googled them both and once you've ploughed through all the guff surrounding the Messiah and some bloke who won the World Snooker Champs ten times then you find out their true identities.

    As for Welsh Burty - you're right I do overlook the fact that the normal bloke in the street plays rugby over there. And rugby union has got too many rules - I understand most of them (probably the same percentage as the blokes playing the game) I just think that any game that's that hard to officiate is going to irritate the pants of most relatively sane people, and encourage a hell of a lot of rulebending n all.

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  • 84. At 8:39pm on 20 Aug 2009, Macca wrote:

    For those suggesting rugby isn't Global then do check out the IRB world rankings. I will admit that there are still far more countries playing football the world over but Rugby is played globally. Yes it's still a minority sport but if it ever gets the marketing that football does and the cash injection that football had then that could slowly change.

    The bloodgate saga is a mess but rugby will carry on. How much doping has to be in a tour de France before they have no fans crammed in to the streets to watch or the large amount of media coverage? Sports have scandals, always have, always will.

    To the Burnley result, this is great but not very suprising. How many times to top clubs go in to games against newly promoted teams and get beat?

    It's not the end of the world for United and far far too early in the season to start dooming teams to being also rans. It's very unlikely a club will win every single match in a season and it's only happened twice that a club has gone through a season without a loss.

    I think it'll be an exciting season and I stick with my pre-season prediction that Arsenal will sneak it.

    2010 will be a great year for football. A close title race to close the 09/10 term and a cracking world cup. Hope that's not too much to ask.

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  • 85. At 8:40pm on 20 Aug 2009, Robbo Robson wrote:

    Oh and Denis - Boro 7 pts out of 9 - I'm saying nothing. We beat Liverpool 2-0 last season and I thought we'd turned a corner. Turned out we painted ourselves into one. Schtum, that's me.

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  • 86. At 8:43pm on 20 Aug 2009, Return of the NANI wrote:

    Are you actually real? Cos' readcing you I always think you're pretend. With your mate Tommy Thompson, or watever you varied his name to be.

    and your jokes about man united sucked
    tumbleweeeeed.

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  • 87. At 8:45pm on 20 Aug 2009, jrzydar wrote:

    This is really poor - the article plays to all the pre-conceptions about rugby, the type that come from people who have never watched the game.

    Maybe before you start telling us where exactly our sport has gone wrong, football should look to clean it's own house first.

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  • 88. At 8:46pm on 20 Aug 2009, tgbutd wrote:

    WelshBurty I empathise with your frustrations but you don't have to make uncorroboarated digs at the beautiful game. It's not like I'm naive to claim that in terms of controversial incidents football "mobs the floor with rugby" but your generalisation is a disproportionate and emotionally mischarged "advice". Richards hasn't done his reputation and rugby justice and unfortunately in life you have people who rejoice at the demise of others. I also shun that sort of attitude but I can't rest on my laurels when the beatiful game gets soiled by the rugby "escapades". Just calm down and realise that Rirchards and co. invited such innuendos and brought the game into disrepute not the football status. Stay safe mate and don't waste your time looking forward to a "quick sand" slip of soccer as only a fool would be oblivious of the mistakes everyone is susceptible to.

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  • 89. At 9:24pm on 20 Aug 2009, GazUtd wrote:


    Had to pick up the in-laws this afternoon and I missed all the fun. Again proof that no good comes from marriage.

    Anyway I didn't know that Jesus won the snooker? Was that when he disguised himself with those upside down glasses and made Steve Davis miss that black?

    Robbo please please tell us who JesusF and JoeDavis really are and what you did on them in the past. I have a couple of guesses but as they continually out you I think that you should out them (not that they need outing).

    Were they...

    a) The other 2 people in for the interview with the Beeb, didn't know the difference between their/they're/there and you got the gig?
    b) The 2 who went to open-mic night and were booed off the stage?
    c) The blokes who used to bully you at school, afterwards you used comedy to rise above it, made a success of yourself and they are still packing shelves?

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  • 90. At 9:27pm on 20 Aug 2009, Kildare72 wrote:

    A very inverted snobbish article

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  • 91. At 9:39pm on 20 Aug 2009, Jason Burton wrote:

    tgbutd
    Thanks for the advice - for clarity, I am disgusted with what has gone on as far as rugby issues are concerned....I would go further and suggest that Quins got off lightly and Richards deserves everything he gets. Escaping the inevitable tirrade of jibes and 'about time' comments was never an intention. My disappointment lays with the glee shown by the majority of the footy boys on here who have extremely short memories,coupled with the ignorance and intransegence of the Blog.
    As far as a quick sand slip of soccer is concerned, I feel my comments were historically biased and not intended to suggest that soccer was about to fall into an abyss of corruption and violence.....I am sure the footy fraternity have learned from their mistakes lets hope the same can be said for the rugby boys. I am not biased, I am a realist - There are a few on here who view the apparent 'beautiful game' through rose tinted glasses - I live directly between Swansea FC and Cardiff FC, my comments, (which I apologies if you feel were inflamitory), are based on fact....closed Railway Stations, trashed city centres etc etc. With the greatest of respect, that does not happen when the Cardiff Blues play the Ospreys.
    Oh....and Im perfectly calm but thanks for your concern.

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  • 92. At 9:51pm on 20 Aug 2009, gazzalw wrote:

    Hooray, I love inverted snobbery! It always riles me how many people slag off Robbo yet STILL read his blog every few days. If ye divvn't like it Blog off! So what if some of the gags fall a bit flat he hits the target most of the time and would you rather have some smart arsed cockney know-all like Rod Liddle pontificating about sport every week? Robbo ISN'T a know all he's a jovial no-nonsense northern lad who likes to provoke a debate and he does that very well. I also admire the attitude that if you can't take it don't dish it out which again he does admirably.

    Anyway.... I've always seen Rugby Union as the inevitable sport of all those thugs who came over with the Conqueror in 1066 with their short haircuts, brawn and no-nonsense approach to a brawl which is why they won in the first place against the Anglo-Saxon culture of honour. Chivalry was a slugfest let's face facts so the wrestling analogy is spot on Robbo old son.

    Cheating is cheating no matter what sport we talk about whether it be blood capsules, diving or that Rivaldo clutching his face after he was hit in the leg. We would all rather see someone staying on their feet in the penalty area when Tommy Smith, Ron Harris or Norman Hunter tries to scythe your legs off and Best/Bowles/Osgood still scores than some of the oscar wining shennanigans we watch every week Mr Drogba et al. Sport to me is triumph over adversity, backing the underdog and singing with tears in your eyes (a common occurence at Boro of course because of the pollution) which is WHY Burnley have my greatest respect this week.

    See.... got it all in there.

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  • 93. At 9:57pm on 20 Aug 2009, Davini993 wrote:

    I can't imagine I'll ever be a big fan of Union, because of the people in England who run it, rather than the players, who I have respect for - Dean Richards more than most before this, ironically. If I do find myself watching it I'll be supporting the Welsh boys.

    It is and always has been run by public school boys who think funny hand shakes and dastartly deeds in positions of power are the way it goes.

    Cheating public schools are after all why League split in the first place. From this through Vichy nicking all the French League's assets and giving them to Union, and banning the game... to having game reports as the lead on the back page of The Mail when only 50 fans turned up... to today when the Beeb shows the highlights on Sunday when most of the games are on (and again on Tues morning at 4am!), and the home office deports 6 star players from Australia, a commonwealth country at the peak of the season.

    So yes, I will be having a bit of a giggle at Union thanks.

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  • 94. At 10:10pm on 20 Aug 2009, nakedirishman wrote:

    As a Man Utd supporting rugby player, you might expect that I will take issue with your article...

    On the rugby side, it is lazy journalism to jump on a bandwagon for something that has been written about it so much recently without adding any original thought (and lacking much knowledge in the subject matter). Yes, it is embarrassing to rugby. No, it does not mean rugby cheats more than football or other sports (unless you have evidence you chose not to cite). You merely seem to be indulging in some low-level trolling in baiting rugby fans. This incident aside, rugby is a game which plays on the edge of the laws and has a degree of subjectivity in the laws' intepretation by referee and players alike. So players will deliberately push boundaries to discover the application adopted by the ref. Yes, there are also deliberate infringements where players decide that the action justifies any penalty. This is no different to football and many other sports. But what rugby does not have, that shames football is the crass bleating to referees and feigning of injuries, particularly to get fellow professionals sent off.

    As for the Man Utd result, your bitterness comes to the fore again when you comdemn United whilst grudgingly conceding that Ferguson was magnanimous in defeat. You actually insult Burnley by focusing on how poor a result this is for MU, when the real story should be Burnley's first victory in the top flight since god knows when, with all pundits tipping them to go down.

    I thoughts jobs at the beeb were harder to come by than this... is yours an unpaid role?

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  • 95. At 10:13pm on 20 Aug 2009, CityRanger-HeavenIsBlue wrote:

    How come not a mention has been made today of Man City beating Barcelona in the Camp Nou with Messi,Ibrahimovic and co all on duty except xavi and iniesta and with City fielding 3 academy players. OK it was only a friendly in front of 95,000 fans but if it had been one of the top 4 i am sure beating the European Champions on their own patch would have certainly been mentioned friendly or not.

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  • 96. At 10:17pm on 20 Aug 2009, GazUtd wrote:


    "How come not a mention has been made today of Man City beating Barcelona"

    Because earlier a dog in the Outer Hebredies coughed up a fur ball.
    That is bigger news.

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  • 97. At 10:22pm on 20 Aug 2009, Jason Burton wrote:

    Nakedirishman
    Absolutely well said !

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  • 98. At 10:31pm on 20 Aug 2009, GazUtd wrote:


    "Nakedirishman
    Absolutely well said !"


    Do you mean the problem all along is that I haven't been naked?

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  • 99. At 10:32pm on 20 Aug 2009, townmax wrote:

    What a load of rubbish.
    you will find more hooray henrys at Stamford bridge, old trafford and anfield than you will at wellford road.
    The chinless wonder brigade have kidnapped football from its roots and have outpriced the people who made the game from seeing it.

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  • 100. At 10:37pm on 20 Aug 2009, dodiesmith wrote:

    Robbo - I turn to your comments EVERY week because I know I will get a feisty spin on the world of sport, no matter what.
    Do not like rugby (think most women prefer football-soccer, whatever?) --no one ever called rugger "the beautiful game."
    Was thrilled to bits for Burnley and hope that ManUnited learned from the experience. Know that Liverpool did, their four goals yesterday soothed my frazzled brow. Someone should tell the rugby players they look awful in those short shorts..... they just don't have the legs for them! Enough said!

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  • 101. At 10:42pm on 20 Aug 2009, SuperPav9 wrote:

    half the idea of the saying 'a game for thugs played by gentlemen' is shown in player's attitudes to referees and rules, not some old toffee nosed public nosed toff tradition

    watching rugby, for the most part, players accept the referees decisions without argument, and take knocks that would leave the likes of Ronaldo crying for a red card

    whereas in football, barely a match goes by without an argument with the referee or some idiot taking a dive for the slightest of knocks

    im not belittiling football in any way, I'm just saying that the phrase has been misread (maybe deliberately?) by Robbo here

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  • 102. At 10:43pm on 20 Aug 2009, Kildare72 wrote:

    92. At 9:51pm on 20 Aug 2009, gazzalw wrote:

    Hooray, I love inverted snobbery! It always riles me how many people slag off Robbo yet STILL read his blog every few days.
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    Snobbery in any form is wrong. My comment was on the article the author penned, not the author.

    Your love for Robbo seems a little, well, like a stalker, but that is something I'm sure Robbo can work out with you and a counsellor separated by four inch thick glass.

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  • 103. At 10:44pm on 20 Aug 2009, Jason Burton wrote:

    GazUtd
    I wasnt aware you had the same opinion...but if you do....well, well said you! Or...maybe I just dont get the humour - who knows!

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  • 104. At 10:49pm on 20 Aug 2009, SuperPav9 wrote:

    @56

    I have to say that I didn't know that. It's news to my ears. It makes it a whole lot worse doesn't it? And definitely not good for the image of the sport

    And to the people commenting on the Saffers rule bending on the Lions tour - that was annoying yes, but hardly to the level of the incident here.

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  • 105. At 11:01pm on 20 Aug 2009, barcelonatangerine wrote:

    NakedIrishman,I agree with most of what you said-until you mentioned feigning injury.Isn´t feigning injury the main gist of this Blog?

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  • 106. At 11:51pm on 20 Aug 2009, Robbo Robson wrote:

    Naked Irishman wrote:

    But what rugby does not have, that shames football is the crass bleating to referees and feigning of injuries, particularly to get fellow professionals sent off.

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    Ermm it does have feigning of injuries or certain people wouldn't be bringing certain theatrical devises to certain matches just in case they might be needed. Blood capsules are used to feign injury!
    Granted the bleating at the ref that comes from some footy players' mouths is a flipping disgrace.
    That raising a card gesture was supposed to earn an automatic booking, wasn't it? There are things we can learn from rugby, us lowlifes. The sin bin. The back ten yards more if you question the ref. All good stuff. But I remind you that I've spent a fair few decades being patronised by rugger boogers about how much more honourable and sportsmanlike the game is - and it's horlicks. Both games are just as bad - and in fact in rugger a bit of unwarranted scrapping is largely overlooked whereas in footy you ccan kiss goodbye to 5 games on the spot.

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  • 107. At 01:01am on 21 Aug 2009, Were Ngoging to Ibiza wrote:

    Being from Castleford i can safely tell you that rugby is NOT a minority sport. However, it has nothing on football. Bleedin' egg chasers (gerrit? ha!) Come on Burnley you little legends :D

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  • 108. At 01:06am on 21 Aug 2009, Were Ngoging to Ibiza wrote:

    well nakedirishman got a bit worked up didnt he! yes there was some baiting of rugby fans and look what happened, they went for the bait like a south african thumb for an eye-socket. hahahahaha some people just dont get it do they... although i suppose he IS a man utd fan so we should let him off really, they cant help it.

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  • 109. At 01:41am on 21 Aug 2009, jonnyboygill wrote:

    At 7:03pm on 20 Aug 2009, JoeDavisRoach wrote:
    To all gentlemen that commented during the Lions tour on the Schalke Burger incident...
    ..Can’t believe that this bloodgate scandal took place on the British Isles!
    ...I thought for a moment (and according to your pathetic comments) that only the South Africans cheat.
    ...so where are all you self righteous Lion fans, care to comment...
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    You will be able able to spot us walking around with "Justice for Dean Richards" armbands and condoning cheating, gouging, biting and stamping to the media.

    JOE - AN ABSOLUTLY CLASSIC COMMENT. FAR WITTIER THAN ANYTHING ROBBO HAS WRITTEN FOR MONTHS (AND IT SEEMS TO HAVE SHUT THE SAFFAS UP, WHICH IS AN ADDED BONUS).

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  • 110. At 01:47am on 21 Aug 2009, betsyboy wrote:

    Well done Robbo.
    We've ALL always enjoyed the respect Rugby players give their Refs. but this sort of activity shows their game in a different light , and by the laws of averages , I'm guessing that not only one man is / was involved but a high profile head has had to roll, as an example to others in the game who indulge in this practice.
    Trouble is they'll change the rules to allow the Dracula props - just like they had to , to allow hoisting-up players at a line outs.
    Man U ? everyone has been saying,it's helluva job to replace Pretty boy and Tevez , there just isn't a link between midfield and attack, and Rooney doesn't know where he belongs. Good player and striker ,but he hasn't got the footy brain to be the midfield general ( I think) he believes he is.
    SAF has got rid of big performers in his time but to get rid of two big 'uns in an average looking team might be a big mistake .
    Keep telling it how you see it - an' the job'll be right.

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  • 111. At 05:13am on 21 Aug 2009, Sam Whiting wrote:

    I'm normally a big Robbo fan, but I've gotta say - stick to football.

    "But coming off the pitch like you're in some sixth-form skit with joke-shop dribble coming out your mouth is hardly butch, is it?"

    The "Bloodgate" is akin to diving. It wasn't an injury feigning to try and get another play penalised or anything of the sort - it was an effort to get drop goal specialist Nick Evans back on the pitch. It was an injury feigning to try to give Quins a better chance of scoring points - much like diving for a penalty. It wasn't a lack of "butchness" or Williams 'wimping out' of the confrontation.

    I'm not saying rugby players/fans are whiter than white, but to say "both games are just as bad" is wildly missing the mark. Rugby fans are trusted with alcohol at grounds and lower (if any) police presence. Just two examples.

    On the pitch, yeah, it's a more confrontational game and there are more scraps and in some cases inexcusable eye-gouging, but you say Burger/Fitzgerald, I say Keane/Haaland. Take it off the pitch and you've got "Stevie G" and Ledley King - two (of your top four) club captains no less - in drunken night club instances. Joey Barton anyone? (for my money it will be the standard big four, City in fifth and Spurs at six.)

    Your notion of how rugby actually started is way, way off the truth. Webb Ellis picking the ball up and running with it during an association football match is an apocryphal tale - not fact. As for your little dig on skin-tight tops, a Clive Woodward (sorry - Sir Clive Woodward) idea to stop people "scrag" tackling his players. It caught on. I could go on and on and on (and probably already have!) critically disecting what you've said about rugby, but I'll leave it.

    The one thing I will say is that the drugs incedents ARE bad for the game and all involved but it seems to be a very localised problem - it's hardly pandemic. Stevens, Harrison, Lipman, Crockett and Higgins (the 5 main offenders in 2009) are/were all Bath. Hopefully Bath RFC will stamp it out and it will cease being an issue.

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  • 112. At 06:54am on 21 Aug 2009, bigbadbobbolton wrote:

    I am afraid that you are wrong Robbo both codes of Rugby have their own brand of on-field hooliganism. I used to play amateur Rugby League and I remember one of my mates getting sent off for thumping someone in a match. When I asked him why he had done it he told me that the guy had bit his balls during a scrum! I also played in a charity game that had some appalling "injuries". Even the wing ended up with three broken ribs following a forearm smash when he was being tackled! We were playing a Wigan A team in that match too and boy were they "good".

    But that is the game and I love both codes :-)

    Its a bit early to writing off the champions again this season, I remember Man Utd starting slowly last season but still going on to win the Premiership. But maybe this season will not belong to them after all especially as Chelsea seem to have a good manager at the helm again and must now be considered favourites? But I have a sneaky feeling that Spurs could do something special now? I think that Harry Redknapp has put together a nice team that could just surprise everyone this season?

    I just wish that Harry and his chairman would head North and take over at Bolton. No offense to Gary and Phil but it would be nice to have the Trotters become a top ranked team.

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  • 113. At 07:16am on 21 Aug 2009, Harry_Potts wrote:

    Anyone who calls football "wendyball" has immediately lost my respect. I actually like Union - and League for that matter, and as others have said, when you get a good bit of hanky panky (to quote Bill McLaren) it is quite entertaining. Why does this effort of an individual continue to blog about subjects he knows nothing about?

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  • 114. At 07:30am on 21 Aug 2009, poshseagull wrote:

    A good article. I enjoyed it. But speaking as someone who went to a posh "public" school where they played football (rugby being regarded as a game for plankheads), I'd point out that the Corinthian spirit is based on the Association, not the Rugby code.

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  • 115. At 08:27am on 21 Aug 2009, chancey1980 wrote:

    I know this is a blog, but surely you still have a duty to be slightly objective with your opinions. This is nothing more than a rant - for reasons you only know.

    I am working class and grew up in Portsmouth. I love football, rugby, cricket, you name it! why fuel inter-sport animosity? they are not mutually exclusive.

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  • 116. At 09:12am on 21 Aug 2009, nakedirishman wrote:

    " 105. At 11:01pm on 20 Aug 2009, barcelonatangerine wrote:
    NakedIrishman,I agree with most of what you said-until you mentioned feigning injury.Isn´t feigning injury the main gist of this Blog?"

    Absolutely! And that's why this incident has shocked the rugby world (even if only to shake some of us out of rose tinted view of our professional game). At the end of the day, rugby culture is not accepting of feigning injury and we take pride in our ability to handle knocks. Even if hurting, we get up and play on and try to show nothing to our opponent. Rugby fans everywhere want this behaviour rooted out of our game in case we slide towards the acceptance of the "anything goes to win" attitude that we see more of in football.

    And I do love footie as well! But I get embarrassed every time I see a player stay down for the slightest of knocks, pretend to be hit in the face or wave his imaginary card to the ref. What's more, football could sort this out overnight if they allowed punishments to be made retrospectively for unsporting behaviour/cheating. Incidentally, I think rugby (to a lesser degree) could also implement such an approach even if it "detracts from the authority of the ref" as both sports claim to fear.

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  • 117. At 09:12am on 21 Aug 2009, GazUtd wrote:


    Robbo would it be safe to say that you get even more abuse when you question rubgy than when you say anything bad about United?

    I think the only thing that might come close is if you say something bad about the Pool. Give it a try next week. Go on, I double dare you!

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  • 118. At 09:51am on 21 Aug 2009, GenesisRed wrote:

    mediocre blog today, but then i guess there's no news.

    I'll rise to the "Burnley's hammering of Man U" nonsense and the unnecessarily dig at Union being minority only to say that i guess you had to say something to get people to post comments else it would look as dull as it was.

    Better of not blogging if you've got nothing to say.

    Surely something about the young keeper from Ipswich who has hung up his boots at 22. Clearly someone who, unlike you, won't keep doing something just for the money.

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  • 119. At 09:59am on 21 Aug 2009, Dannyoco wrote:

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  • 120. At 10:12am on 21 Aug 2009, yajustdonsavethose wrote:

    "In fact I have to say I get right hacked off with the idea that 'cos the bloke's at United his England career will suddenly be on the up. Jermain Defoe must be laughing into his mineral water with Spurs being top. (Top four side this year, I tells ya.) "

    great start for us but you cant seriosuly expect us to finsih top 4!

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  • 121. At 10:24am on 21 Aug 2009, morphey00 wrote:

    At least someone in rugby has thought up an intelligent way of cheating as opposed to diving around like a bunch of girls!

    Man utd to come 5th this year, chelsea to run away with the prem.

    and more importantly, boro to demolish the champo without conceeding all year, maybe a league,league cup and fa cup treble to boot!!!

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  • 122. At 10:24am on 21 Aug 2009, bentyger wrote:

    It's nice to see a journalist sticking to what he knows. Honestly,how can you even contemplate claiming the moral high ground?

    I guess the shock of seeing footballers in court every other week has completeley worn off.
    Riots trashing cities mean nothing too you.

    You say rugby is about bending the rules, yet every time a football player has the ball and gets tackled,he tries to get the other player sent off-look at the likes of Drogba! I'm sure you can think of a million excuses for diving,but you shouldn't have too.

    Look to your own sport before knocking ours,for every 1 rugby incident like this,there are 20 football incidents.

    I'd agree football is a good game,and the majority are well behaved and just there for the crack.

    But there is an inherent problem in the game of football,even the managers squabble and bicker like children,there's no respect for the opposition,the ref,or even themselves.

    It must be a nice change for you to hear about another sport for a change,instead of fans being stabbed,players destroying cars,beating up their wives,raceist chanting.

    All in all,this "article" has more to do with your own prejudice than any coherant argument. The la-di-da comment shows that in abundance,go to Wales, Scotland or Ireland,see if the situation there backs up your vitriolic comments.

    Even you must realise you're talking out of your backside.

    I guess a big,nasty rugby player must have stolen your lollipop, because you sound very bitter.
    Jump on the bandwagon though,feel free.

    A poor piece of journalism,I could have done better, and so could my nine year old,at least he'd be subjective.

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  • 123. At 10:31am on 21 Aug 2009, paul hewson wrote:

    at last, someone mentions what has been going on in the world of rugby.
    Can you imagine the fall out if this had happened in football.

    The weird thing is that apparently this isnt the first time the fake blood injury has happened.

    Rugby union has lived off this public sector high morals stance for years, looking down at the corrupt game of football.

    Bowyer and Dyer have a girly fight on the pitch at St James Park and the police get involved, whilst eye gouging goes on every week in rugby union and nothing happens.

    Double standards.

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  • 124. At 10:35am on 21 Aug 2009, spdgodofcheese wrote:

    To be fair, I think the Burnley match was a great result not just for Burnley, but for all these reporters in the tabloids who would have given more type space to Wayne Rooney scoring his 100th goal, had he scored!
    It was a great game, with the champions clearly resting on their laurels and reputation( much like Liverpool in the 80's), and being outplayed for 90mins. I hope this is the start of a varied and exciting league, with there being more new teams to report on other than the big 4. As for the rugby, I am naive to how a mouth full of blood can be constituted as cheating, but it's nothing like the cheating we witness in the premier league on a near daily basis....

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  • 125. At 10:38am on 21 Aug 2009, WarnockG90 wrote:

    I am not too shocked by any of this as rule-bending and cheating to certain extents are probably present in a large number of professional sports - look at diving, time-wasting etc in football and even in rugby the Neil Back incident tapping the ball into Leicester's scrum in the Heineken Cup years ago.

    Its a bit unfortunate that Deano thought the best course of action was to cover it all up. It has tarnished some formally good people's reputations.

    I think since the introduction of professionalism in rugby it has moved from the 'gentleman's game' into a situation where people will do whatever it takes to win.

    As an amatuer player I find this idea pretty disappointing

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  • 126. At 10:44am on 21 Aug 2009, GenesisRed wrote:

    "and being outplayed for 90mins"

    look at the stats before you talk such nonsense - United had 18 shots to Burnley's 5, 13 corners to their 1. Possession was 62% United, 38% Burnley.

    Their keeper got man of the match. It says it all.

    It was a great result for Burnley and for the league. It is good for them to get their tails up, meaning they'll take it to the other teams too. Sure, United were a bit slow (thanks to Carrick) but to say the result was a fair depiction of the game as a whole is just daft. But that's why we love football, because of results like this.

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  • 127. At 10:51am on 21 Aug 2009, WarnockG90 wrote:

    betsyboy - you talk about changing rules in rugby to allow the blood incidents to continue is total nonsense.

    Your backup of this argument is to say they changed the rules to allow lifting in the lineout? Thats a farce. All, bar a few, rule changes in rugby have been to benefit the game and to make it cleaner and tidier and more fast-paced. Prior to that rule-change we had guys just jumping all over the place scrambling around for the ball and it was luck who came away with it. At least now teams have a good chance of keeping possession from their own throw in.

    If anyone thinks the IRB would allow blood feigning to continue they need a reality check.

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  • 128. At 10:54am on 21 Aug 2009, MUSTAPHAGO wrote:

    ROBBO.....You relly should know better than to start mocking His royal Fergieness at this stage of the season, as we all know that the premiership trophy will still be in the cabinet at Gold Trafford in May but you can dream for a few months and keep the hopes of the alternates in London and North Wales overspill alive....Pipe Dreams...me old son..

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  • 129. At 11:09am on 21 Aug 2009, BeyondThePale wrote:

    Poor Old Fergie, lost the plot,
    Sold his best player for quite a lot.
    Can't buy quality, the owners have said,
    They need the cash for a new coat of red.
    All the best players have turned them down,
    Just a crock from Newcastle and a Wigan clown,
    And a Frenchman with Stewie off Family Guy's head,
    Champions League? No, Europa instead.
    Struggled against Brummies, beaten by Burnley,
    Is everyone writing them off too early?
    I doubt it, the quality's way, way off.
    And they spent all their cash on that joke Berbatov.
    Still let's not be gloating, let's pity the Mancs -
    Their boss will be hiding with the Armitage Shanks.

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  • 130. At 11:09am on 21 Aug 2009, FanOfRealFootball wrote:

    In todays society, where recycling is looked upon with great creditation. I'm not so sure the recycling of the blog audiences comments from yesterday as this blog today should be taken as a late version of what the footballing blog should have been yesterday or just lazyness.

    Great comeback tho. Just too bad it wasn't inspired by the blog writers themselves.

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  • 131. At 11:24am on 21 Aug 2009, 5europeancups05 wrote:

    Well done Burnley! You have shown the nation what we already know; Man Utd have the weakest team, by far the weakest midfield and the weakest squad out of the top 4 teams.

    Mr Ferguson has made a massive mistake in thinking that Owen and Valencia can replace Ronaldo, and that Scholes, Neville and Giggs are still world class. Scousers everywhere are hoping they never retire or move on.

    "Michael Owen looks for all the world like a kitten in concrete boots"
    His link up play has never been world class but now that he's lost a yard (or 3) of pace he's finished. This is exactly why he's been consistently overlooked by all the top managers. Except for Ferguson. He's so arrogant he thinks everyone else has missed a bargain! Will it still be a bargain when his dire hold up and link play costs them points? Imagine it was level when Owen missed his sitter against Birmingham. If Owen is recalled to England, Capello will lose all respect in my eyes. Inept performances which include a scuffed tap in goal after he's already missed a couple of sitters should not be enough. Neither should signing for the mancs.

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  • 132. At 12:03pm on 21 Aug 2009, The Trawler wrote:

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  • 133. At 12:06pm on 21 Aug 2009, Dazz0r wrote:

    8. At 3:51pm on 20 Aug 2009, WaxyGodfather wrote:
    I'm also shocked that instead of focusing on his own team (although lets face facts who would want to focus on Middlesborough) he decides to laugh at Manchester United losing to a hard working and industrious Burnley team.
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    Are you suggesting people can only have an opinion about the team they support? It's lucky you're not in charge around here, what a dull place it would be!

    As for Rugby being so fantastic, I always thought it was played by gentleman and supported by gentlemen, but after you're little petty outburst I'm not so sure... your reply what that of a football supporter!

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  • 134. At 12:07pm on 21 Aug 2009, GenesisRed wrote:

    "His link up play has never been world class but now that he's lost a yard (or 3) of pace he's finished."

    If he was as sharp as he will be soon, he would have two goals in two games. Because of his link up play. You do remember the link up with Rooney against Brum don't you? We haven't had two strikers linking up like that in far too long. Sure, the opposition hasn't been great, but if he can stay fit he'll get his sharpness back and be banging the goals in

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  • 135. At 12:12pm on 21 Aug 2009, The Trawler wrote:

    133: He can have an opinion on whatever he likes

    But if the headline to this blog was about Gareth Southgate being the best looking man in Middlesborough would you give a flying watsit?

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  • 136. At 12:16pm on 21 Aug 2009, RedBlueArmy92 wrote:

    Robbo mate, enjoyabe as ever sir... Cor it's got some reaction though aint it...

    For me rugby is just a bit dull... though i can see alot you are very passionate about it... fair dues, what ever floats your boat.

    But... some of the comments on here are at an almost breath taking level of pettiness... Bravo to you! Very entertaining reading, you rugger chaps are as bad as the northern reds who occupy these comments most times out.

    Joe and Jesus, surely a Statler and Waldorf for the interweb generation...

    Beyond the Pale... As an avid hiphop fan (old school only), may i be the first to deliver "props" for your "sick bars"! "mandem merked it, get me?" John Barnes would be very proud!

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  • 137. At 12:18pm on 21 Aug 2009, BeyondThePale wrote:

    "he decides to laugh at Manchester United losing to a hard working and industrious Burnley team"

    To be fair to him, so are everyone else.

    And McFans can refer to the "hard working and industrious Burnley team" all they like - it isn't detracting from the FACKT that Manc Untied are pish without their best player, have a comedy midfield and a lazy £30m striker and have scored one goal against two newly promoted sides.

    Mr Ferguson will have his camp bed set up in the OT lavs already.

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  • 138. At 12:24pm on 21 Aug 2009, spurs_happy wrote:

    Rugby is a good sport for people who like to watch butch, built up people trying to hurt eachother to get the bloody ball, like brothers and sisters having a fight, you can tell rugby was invented by school children.

    As for the footy, spurs first - :0 - oh my god, who would have thought. And Defoe top scorer. Robbo's prediction of us in forth is becoming more and more right.

    Well done to the burnley on beating Man United.

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  • 139. At 12:43pm on 21 Aug 2009, Zootmac wrote:

    A class blog with some class reponses.

    Webbers of the world unite. We have nothing to lose but our brains.

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  • 140. At 12:51pm on 21 Aug 2009, GazUtd wrote:


    Zoot are you suggesting that some people here actually have brains?

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  • 141. At 12:57pm on 21 Aug 2009, Wolves4CL wrote:

    #92 - Interesting that you should compare Robbo with Rod Liddle of all people. I had the dubious pleasure of sharing some school time with Rod - who was at least as objectionable then as he is now - in a town called Guisborough, which is about 10 miles from Robboboro!

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  • 142. At 1:01pm on 21 Aug 2009, Zootmac wrote:

    Gaz - I was just trying to up the standard, on the off chance of placating Joe and JFC. BeyondthePale was doing well with his poem, until it ended with "Armitage Shanks". He's never going to get Poet Laureate with toilet humour.

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  • 143. At 1:01pm on 21 Aug 2009, mdb500 wrote:

    Well Robbo, this is the best blog you've ever written and it's absolute tosh. How on earth you get paid for poor puns and sniping at SIR Alex week in week out I will never understand. At least you slagged off Rugby (I detest the game myself) but even that didn't seem particularly well written. So well done.
    I have to say that the massive chip you have on your shoulder about Manchester United is dwarfed only by the monumentally execrable quality of your writing.

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  • 144. At 1:10pm on 21 Aug 2009, BeyondThePale wrote:

    Zoot,

    It would have ended with something else, but I erred on the side of not being moderated.

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  • 145. At 1:10pm on 21 Aug 2009, GazUtd wrote:


    Zoot the only way you will placate Joe and Jesus is if you hang Robbo upside down by his fortitudes in the middle of Trafalgar Square and make him repeat ad-nauseum "I cannot write and am not funny".

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  • 146. At 1:15pm on 21 Aug 2009, BeyondThePale wrote:

    I notice Lucas has been called up to the Brazil squad for the WCQs against Argentina and Chile.

    No Anderson, though.

    Hmmm.

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  • 147. At 1:20pm on 21 Aug 2009, Zootmac wrote:

    144 BeyondthePale: I'm trying to think of something else which would have rhymed with "Mancs". I can see your problem. As you suggest, the moderators might have pulled it; which would have been invigorating, if nothing else.

    Nonetheless, congratulations on producing posting 144 without it being gross.


    145 Gaz: As well as placating Joe and JFC, there is the encouraging possibility that Robbo's fortitudes might be more impressive than Nelson's column.

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  • 148. At 1:20pm on 21 Aug 2009, Rick wrote:

    As a rugby player (a lie I suppose as I decided to retire at the end of last season but can't bring myself to say "retired rugby player" yet) who also enjoys watching football I think a lot of you are missing the point.

    What Deano did was disgraceful and it does mean that the "high horse" that rugby players/fans like to take regarding play acting in footbal has been taken away from us a little.

    However, the difference between rugby and footbal is that he has been banned from coaching for 3 seasons. Can you imagine SAF being banned for managing the Gelled Tumbler and his theatrics (just a single example I know lots of others dive, including Gerrard who most England fans, like myself, pretend we haven't noticed diving to get penalties).

    Some football managers seem to have disciplined sides (e.g. Brian Clough, Steve Coppell even) but others seem to have sides which are notorious for having divers. The managers continue to pick those players and even defend them to the press. This is not much diffent (but admittedly a little less farcical) than the "bloodgate" fiasco.

    As for the rugby fans who rose to the "minority sport" remark, wind your necks in a bit. Robbo even indicated he was typing it to upset people. And compared to football in many ways it is a minority sport, for example if you look at fan numbers turning up to big matches, or numbers willing to sit up until midnight watching MOTD on a Saturday night (how many would watch a rugby show at that time?). However, there are also more people who drive Fiats than Ferraris......

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  • 149. At 1:30pm on 21 Aug 2009, ospreysboyo wrote:

    The day rugby players chase referees from the pitch and verbally and physically assault them, or the fans at a rugby match cause a riot in the streets, kill a copper with a bomb, cause a Heysel disaster, murder opposing fans, or need to be seperated in such a serious way that a Hillsborough disaster can be allowed to happen, then you guys can take the moral high ground! Face it, football is a joke nowadays, dont label all of rugby as cheats, it was only two stupid ENGLISH clubs who have done any thing wrong!

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  • 150. At 1:32pm on 21 Aug 2009, WhitleyBayWonTheVase wrote:

    "Mr. Feguson may have to actually manage this year, instead of dipping into the Glazer's deep pockets and buying a goal-scorer."

    --------------------------------------------------------

    Congratulations on posting the most ridiculous comment I have ever seen on a Robbo Blog.

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  • 151. At 1:34pm on 21 Aug 2009, BeyondThePale wrote:

    "Congratulations on posting the most ridiculous comment I have ever seen on a Robbo Blog."

    Not nearly as ridiculous as pretending you're not a Man Utd fan.

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  • 152. At 1:35pm on 21 Aug 2009, rjaggar wrote:

    I was wondering whether you were going to muse about whether football will take note from athletics and get Sir Alex to demand a replay because one of his players tripped and fell over in the first half after having their heel clipped by a young inexperienced little whipper-snapper?

    Or whether there's anyone in the Premier League who needs a intelligence test? Especially if they might win the League aged 18?? Because it wouldn't be fair if someone of superior intelligence was allowed to play football, would it??

    They clearly taught the cricketeers to say how great they are off the pitch, when the performance on it is somewhat less glorious to recall......

    Perhaps they could just do with getting off our screens for a few weeks longer - I'm not ready for a new season yet and I'm sure loads of others aren't either.

    Rum stuff, the water on Teesside, mate.....take this missive with the large mountain of Anglesey salt that I'm sure you always do!

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  • 153. At 1:37pm on 21 Aug 2009, peteralanhirst wrote:

    Good blog but I cannot believe Richards has been banned for three years and Burger got a six game ban for blatent eye-gouging.... which is the worst offence? Surely the administrators should protect players against malicious and potentially career ending injury rather than cheating the rules on substitutions...

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  • 154. At 1:41pm on 21 Aug 2009, WhitleyBayWonTheVase wrote:

    #151 - I'm a football fan who admires the football of Man United, but no more than I admire the management of Mr Wenger and the style with which his club plays.

    I'm a fan of the strength and power in Chelseas game and the will and determination demonstrated by successive Liverpool sides in recent years.

    However, my loyalty lies firmly in the non-league and with one club. It doesn't stop my having an opinion on quite how anyone could intimate that SAF has never had to 'manage' though.

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  • 155. At 1:47pm on 21 Aug 2009, GazUtd wrote:


    Whitley you will find that unless you say Fergie is the anti-christ and should be hung, drawn, quartered and then brought back to life and hung again you will be accused by certain sections of being a United fan.

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  • 156. At 1:51pm on 21 Aug 2009, WhitleyBayWonTheVase wrote:

    Gaz, well I have just looked at the aforementioneds post history and now chastise myself for having bothered even giving a reply.

    A stream of United-hating, even with the odd little poem thrown in.

    My weekend is looking good anyway - home to Shildon with an excellent record against them and we're unbeaten this season (and got through an FA Cup Prelim replay mid-week). I'm forecasting 3-0, a sticky can of diet coke and a new flag for my daughter.

    We're getting a new toilet block too. Thats what winning the Vase does for you!

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  • 157. At 1:55pm on 21 Aug 2009, GazUtd wrote:


    Do you mean one of those rim-block things or a real block of toilets?!

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  • 158. At 1:56pm on 21 Aug 2009, dannytrfc wrote:

    You’re always going to get rugby fans on a football blog moaning with football fans defending their sport and vice versa. I’m with you Robbo; both could be better, both could be worse!


    7pts out of 9, 3 clean sheets out of 3, I’m guessing you won’t let us have Danny Coyne back then?

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  • 159. At 2:11pm on 21 Aug 2009, Dave H wrote:

    I still can't see the point in Robbo's blog, I only read it because there is literally nothing else to do.

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  • 160. At 2:16pm on 21 Aug 2009, BeyondThePale wrote:

    Cotham,

    It's always fun to watch the humourless in action, sucking the life from the net on a Friday afternoon.

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  • 161. At 2:25pm on 21 Aug 2009, Zootmac wrote:

    156, 157, 158 Gaz, Vase and Clean Sheets Dan

    MORE toilet humour? What's happening here?

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  • 162. At 2:38pm on 21 Aug 2009, Zootmac wrote:

    159 Cotham

    Dave, I've read your posting 517 times now. I wish I could help.

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  • 163. At 2:38pm on 21 Aug 2009, RedBlueArmy92 wrote:

    fart

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  • 164. At 2:38pm on 21 Aug 2009, BeyondThePale wrote:

    Toilet traders?

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  • 165. At 2:51pm on 21 Aug 2009, TrotterUSA wrote:

    159

    Dave, do you live in Middlesbrough too?

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  • 166. At 2:59pm on 21 Aug 2009, Zootmac wrote:

    163, 164, 165

    Outrageous. Absolutely outrageous. I hope that my licence fee isn't being used to promote this drivel.

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  • 167. At 3:01pm on 21 Aug 2009, WhitleyBayWonTheVase wrote:

    #157 - a block of portable toilets. It was the FA Vase we won, not the FA Cup. Mind you, rumour has it we might even get a new stand before long. Life is good, eh.

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  • 168. At 3:06pm on 21 Aug 2009, RedBlueArmy92 wrote:

    159: I feel i have to question your use of the word "litteraly". I mean, come on thier must be something else to do... surely... unless you slipped in to some twighlight zone type situation where all you can do is read Robbo's blog over and over and over and over and over...

    Ah well thiers, usually a moral to be learnt somewhere if that is the case?



    (this drivel was litteraly promoted by the licence fee's of good, honest, hard working people...)

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  • 169. At 3:07pm on 21 Aug 2009, TrotterUSA wrote:

    What's the good word Robbo? Will it still be Ponting for the OSPOY or might Usain Bolt have nicked it? I think Zoot, RBA and Gaz deserve the domestic honours! RBA just has to fart and people take notice.

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  • 170. At 3:38pm on 21 Aug 2009, BeyondThePale wrote:

    Caster Semenya for Man Of The Year?

    She'd have some balls to accept it.

    Literally.

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  • 171. At 3:50pm on 21 Aug 2009, RedBlueArmy92 wrote:

    Ok enough of the Caster Semenya jokes, this cock and ball story has be going on schlong enough, the whole things nuts.

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  • 172. At 4:06pm on 21 Aug 2009, TrotterUSA wrote:

    In moments from now I fully expect Zoot to post a suitable anagram of Caster's full name, possibly even including the middle names that none of us mortals even know about.

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  • 173. At 4:09pm on 21 Aug 2009, RedBlueArmy92 wrote:

    I heard that when wikipedia need to find something out... they look up Zootmac.

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  • 174. At 4:13pm on 21 Aug 2009, TrotterUSA wrote:

    something along the lines of .....RACY SEMEN SEAT.....but probably more subtle.

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  • 175. At 4:19pm on 21 Aug 2009, RedBlueArmy92 wrote:

    how did you come to that conclusion?

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  • 176. At 4:28pm on 21 Aug 2009, TrotterUSA wrote:

    based purely on hearsay of course!

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  • 177. At 4:54pm on 21 Aug 2009, BeyondThePale wrote:

    Necessary Meat

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  • 178. At 5:03pm on 21 Aug 2009, BeyondThePale wrote:

    Scary meat seen

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  • 179. At 5:12pm on 21 Aug 2009, BeyondThePale wrote:

    And the best one,

    A Secret Man Yes

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  • 180. At 5:23pm on 21 Aug 2009, TrotterUSA wrote:

    BTP, that's brilliant, you should sell that one to The Sun!

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  • 181. At 5:49pm on 21 Aug 2009, BeyondThePale wrote:

    There must be some shocking waste in the athletics system - they're talking about it being weeks before they can deduce whether Caster's a man or not.

    Why don't they just keep an eye on which lavs s/he goes to?

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  • 182. At 5:56pm on 21 Aug 2009, TrotterUSA wrote:

    It puzzled me too. An 8 week test. Surely if she/he dropped her shorts we'd have the answer but apparently that's not the case. Does it mean all 5 or 6 billion of us need to have a more thorough test? Does it mean that the delivery room shriek of "it's a boy" or "it's a girl" now becomes "we'll let you know in 2 months" ? Things used to be so much more straightforward.

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  • 183. At 6:03pm on 21 Aug 2009, BeyondThePale wrote:

    Why can't they be like Lady GaGa and just admit it?

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  • 184. At 6:22pm on 21 Aug 2009, allezdae wrote:

    Double standards between rugby and football annoy me: a training ground punch up, and there are usually a few every now and then in every sport, is rightly regarded as horrific in football, the players getting banned and censured (and in the case of Barton imprisoned). In rugby, it's "character building".

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  • 185. At 6:30pm on 21 Aug 2009, BeyondThePale wrote:

    Bruiser,

    It's not double standards - it's the old class thing.

    (And before anyone mentions Gerrard, I'm more than happy to put my hands up as a Liverpool fan and suggest that the judge may well have had a bag of LFC goodies waiting to be signed for his grandkids).

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  • 186. At 6:59pm on 21 Aug 2009, ClaridgeforPM wrote:

    This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the House Rules.

  • 187. At 7:00pm on 21 Aug 2009, BeyondThePale wrote:

    Anyway, enough about boring rugby - it's all a bit gay anyway.

    What about Soti Kyrgiakos for £2m? I think that's a hell of a buy for £2m - we were well short of experience with Sami choosing to move on yet we've picked up a huge lunatic for pennies!

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  • 188. At 7:03pm on 21 Aug 2009, BeyondThePale wrote:

    He's got to be known as "The Kyrgan", surely?

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  • 189. At 7:06pm on 21 Aug 2009, TrotterUSA wrote:

    er, Bruiser, I may well be mistaken but I don't think Joey Barton was imprisoned for a punch-up on the training ground.

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  • 190. At 7:19pm on 21 Aug 2009, BeyondThePale wrote:

    And here he is:

    http://yfrog.com/15kyrganj

    (btw, Trotter you're right - he was locked up for kicking the ***t out of a 16 year old kid while p***ed outside Maccy Dees).

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  • 191. At 8:18pm on 21 Aug 2009, Ichi_1 wrote:

    "Yeah, it sure is a real shame that rugby union fans don't feel the pain of defeat and go out and riot after they lose and/or stab opposition fans"

    Oh yeh caus that happens on a weekly basis. And i think youll find the riots and stabbings happen to OUR fans when they go abroad. We cant be held accountable for how the italians and turkish act.

    Last time i checked a football fan had never celebrated a victory like this:http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article191436.ece

    I think youll find rubgy fans are hardly whiter than white anyway. One quick search and ive already found thse recent incidents: http://www.scrum.com/europeanchallenge/rugby/image/96153.html

    http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/03/27/1080330987022.html

    So thats fighting, children being attacked and allegations of gangrape. Gentlemens game my backside

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  • 192. At 8:23pm on 21 Aug 2009, TrotterUSA wrote:

    BTP Excellent, you've restored my faith in the British justice system (although there seems to be an air of discontent among the yanks that the Lockerbie Bomber has been "compassionately" set free).

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  • 193. At 8:37pm on 21 Aug 2009, BeyondThePale wrote:

    Trotter,

    I have always been of the opinion re: "The Lockerbie Bomber" (he does have a name) that it was a tit for tat thing - we bombed someone, they bombed someone.

    Neither was right and it was all politics.

    As usual, it's the s**t like us who have to pay for it and wail in the press when our/their families are wronged while the governments do deals.

    Waste of time apart from the inevitable public outcry.

    Rather talk about how crap Man Utd are, frankly.

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  • 194. At 8:39pm on 21 Aug 2009, BeyondThePale wrote:

    Now I'm going to watch Bea get kicked out of Big Brother - it may be pish, but it's the only democracy we have left.

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  • 195. At 10:41pm on 21 Aug 2009, Zootmac wrote:

    BeyondThePale

    Just in, and reading your stuff here and on the Chris Charles blog. Brilliantly written, anarchic and wild.

    You'll eventually be arrested, of course. And I'm not implying that I agree with everything you say. But, right now, I'm creasing myself.

    Now, get to your bed before you do any more damage.

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  • 196. At 11:09pm on 21 Aug 2009, BeyondThePale wrote:

    Zoot,

    If you've been arrested once it means you're immune, surely.

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  • 197. At 11:36pm on 21 Aug 2009, BeyondThePale wrote:

    They pay people to mod this at this time of the night st the weekend?

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  • 198. At 11:38pm on 21 Aug 2009, BeyondThePale wrote:

    This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the House Rules.

  • 199. At 11:53pm on 21 Aug 2009, BeyondThePale wrote:

    Plainly they don't.

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  • 200. At 11:58pm on 21 Aug 2009, BeyondThePale wrote:

    Can you imagine Wayne Rooney if guns were legal?

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  • 201. At 00:02am on 22 Aug 2009, BeyondThePale wrote:

    Sod it all, who needs football when you have

    BALL IN A CUP!

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  • 202. At 02:02am on 22 Aug 2009, MouthoftheTyne wrote:

    Face liked a smacked a**e did Sir Alex have - worth a whole season in the Championship just to see it. Good luck lads - pleasue is where you find it!

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  • 203. At 02:12am on 22 Aug 2009, AJ_Crank wrote:

    ""I get right hacked off with the idea that 'cos the bloke's at United his England career will suddenly be on the up"" - Finally! Someone talking sense about Owen!!

    What is it with the English media (and some fans), that they hype average players up, above and beyond anything nearing realism, just because they are English?! You already have plenty of talent in the squad......you don't need to call up has-beens or journeymen!

    Owen is RUBBISH, alright?? Don't argue.....don't even think about it - he's crap, end of. Even at his best he was overrated - for a finish up, at Liverpool, for every goal he scored he missed three easy chances. I laughed all day when I heard United signed him - it was almost as funny as his 'brochure'.


    Anyway, good work Robbo, nice to see someone bring a bit of sense to the table, for a change.

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  • 204. At 11:35am on 22 Aug 2009, Irishtime wrote:

    Robbo, let's have a look at what happens in football - a sport which has been 'professional' for much longer than rugby has, and should surely be leading the way in sportsmanship or the 'spirit of the game'. Before you have another rant about rugby and its consistent 'rule bending', heres a list of some things which happen on a regular occurrence in professional football and 'scandals' which have tarnished the sport . Diving, feigning injury to get a player booked, 'professional fouls', time wasting, spitting, missing drugs test, failing drugs tests, match fixing, intimidation of officials, verbally and physically abusing officials, conning the ref when a clear goal has been scored, horrendous tackling i.e two footed challenges...

    Football, one of the oldest sports of the professional era, has been repeatedly brought into disrepute and has failed to 'clean up its act' and become an example to other professional sports. While rugby, which is in it's infancy in terms of 'professional sport' has broken the rules a few of times over the last year or so and your now trying to put it in the same league as football? Rugby Union is even making drastic rule changes so something like the 'fake blood' incident won't happen again, this wouldn't happen in football because of it's stubbornness and stupidity (goal line technology, giving 10 yards when a ref is questioned, sin bin etc etc). Let's see how Rugby Union reacts to these 'scandals' over the next year before you jump the gun...because football has never, and never will, learn from it's mistakes.

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  • 205. At 6:35pm on 23 Aug 2009, aries22 wrote:

    It's good that Dean Richards has been banned for three years. If we're going to call so-called "rugby players" like Schalk Burger, we have to be seen to be cleaning up our own game. Richards has admitted to doing this same blood replacement thing on three previous occasions and not been found out. Why, Dean? What's the point? Why can't you just play the game fairly and squarely? "It's a professional game now where any advantage is fair ans square"? No Dean, it's cheating, pure and simple.

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  • 206. At 9:14pm on 23 Aug 2009, stellamike wrote:

    Robbo , have a quick re-read of your comments ref United and feel free to edit them . It will be an open league this year , but I don't see much incursion into the "Big Four " by other teams . I'm a Red , but I hope City do well this year , but my main worry will be Arsenal , who look to be more balanced this time . Whoever wins it , I think it will be an exceptional year .

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  • 207. At 11:03am on 24 Aug 2009, Bob T wrote:

    Quick point, drunkenrugby - when you say "lets see how long it is before another footie player gets caught in a gang bang, dealing coke,...", why did Lawrence Dallaglio resign from the England rugby captaincy?

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  • 208. At 12:47pm on 24 Aug 2009, Feel The Magic wrote:

    One blames the parents

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  • 209. At 10:32pm on 25 Aug 2009, Boyo1981 wrote:

    Sorry to say this but football fan stabbed before a match AGAIN...West Ham Vs Millwall....sad to hear.....and some people seem to think the thugs are on the rugby pitch.......disgusting behaviour!!!

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  • 210. At 10:47am on 26 Aug 2009, Irishtime wrote:

    Surprise surprise, football ONCE AGAIN showing it's true colours...

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  • 211. At 11:05pm on 26 Aug 2009, Jason Burton wrote:

    ....and they are at it again.....Brilliant!
    Never saw that coming, because obviously all the mindless thugery is now apparently only present on the rugby pitch.
    In the words of my nine year old daughter and in appropriately childish fashion......Whatever!
    Robbo....feel free to blog again if you can manage to take you foot out of you mouth and your head from somewhere dark and unpleasant!

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  • 212. At 00:38am on 28 Aug 2009, invershneckie wrote:

    Locks aren't particularly heavy...it's the props who keep getting bigger and heavier all the time.

    But otherwise, good article as always.

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