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Cash n Grab

Robbo Robson | 13:28 UK time, Wednesday, 15 July 2009

Crikey. It's started. The inexorable tide of sky blue cash is washing over the football superpowers and sweeping away the best they have into a place where Lamborghinis land in your lap, and two hundred grand a week is, as the Mayor of London might put it, chicken-feed.

Prepare yourselves, boys and girls, for a lot of nods and winks towards the official line. You know the sort of thing:

a. It's not about the money, it's about a fresh challenge;
b. The manager and the board convinced me about the vision at Manchester City;
c. The (previous) club didn't do enough to keep me. (That's my personal favourite)

Of course (c) has an awful lot to do with what is inherent in (a). By not enough, a player, or at least his agent, usually means that the club couldn't cough up the sort of wages that the Abu Dhabi blokes can. But then unless Bill Gates takes over the Boro soon, I don't think anyone can.

Did Barry not consider the dough when he went to Eastlands? I don't think it was about City's tradition, which is, after all, to change managers so often that they've built a slide from the gaffer's office to the club car park. And Sparky, though he's doing his best to put a confident face on this merry-go-round, must be wondering if someone at the club will be forcing his feet into one of them little sacks and pushing him down into his open Ferrari before Christmas.

Tevez - or Carlos the Hackle as we know him in the Blue Bell - is the latest to be embraced by a bewildered City's mob. He chose to celebrate the occasion by sporting a crocheted bandage on his bonce which made him look like he was playing the lead in a particularly dark version of Alice in Wonderland.

Tevez moves across to the blue side of Manchester

Adebayor looks like joining the party now, too and I'm sure he can miss sitters for teams other than Arsenal. On paper it looks like a picture postcard of forwards - Robinho, Tevez, Santa Cruz, Adebayor. Sparky's job won't be to fire them up, it'll be the usual one these days of counselling the sulking millionaires who are paid six figure sums a week to keep benches warm. As the missus says, wouldn't it be cheaper to get some scatter cushions and some nice blankets?

Fact is, one of the prices you pay for going to a massive-spending club is that you might spend a season being blanked. Ask Joe Cole or SWP. Ask Robbie Keane. Given the little Argentine's phenomenal work-rate, they might just rig up a running machine to the stadiums electrics and Carlos can power the floodlights for the evening games.

Whether City can yank John Terry out of Chelsea is another matter entirely but it will take Kaka-like strength of mind to resist... and even his saintly resistance only lasted a season. If City do get the England skipper you can just about put to rest the notion that club loyalty counts for anything these days.

I don't blame any player for trotting dutifully after a trail of tenners, but like him or not, Terry has been the absolute cornerstone of Chelsea since Abramovich arrived. Hughes insists it's not about the money, and maybe that's fair enough. But surely even today's cash hungry and closeted millionaires have a saturation point and Terry must be earning the GDP of a reasonably stable African republic every week as it is.

So why would he move on?

All this stuff about challenges confuses me. Where's the challenge in fewer football matches against top-flight opposition? Where's the challenge in going to a club you don't give a damn about when the one you've worked for all your life is still reeling from you wearing slippers in a penalty shoot-out? Surely Ancelotti arriving, with new ideas and new team-mates, and another Champions League campaign guaranteed, is challenge enough.

If less excitement and exertion does qualify as a new chapter in your career, then I'll use that one on the missus when she asks why I've not moved off the sofa of an afternoon. 'I'm challenging myself, love, setting myself new goals. Now move out the road it's the Countdown conundrum.'

The only upside of this preposterous and downright ugly confetti of money that is raining down on players in Manchester and Madrid is the right hump it has given those usually calm and considered fellows, Rafa and Fergie.

Benitez, audacious as ever, says it's ridiculous how much players cost at the same time as unveiling his £17 million pound full-back. Hang on, mate! If you don't like it you don't pay!

Don't pay it and then moan about it anyway. I mean every time they put 5p on a pint I could have a right old whinge but two pints later I've forgotten why I was moaning.

Fergie was annoyingly calm about it, to be fair. It was almost refreshing to hear the old bruiser say he wasn't getting involved in the price-hikes til you pictured the seven extra noughts on United's bank balance since the Tumbler took his final bow (but somehow kept his feet).

Owen for Benzema can't be a fair swap, though. It's a bit like losing Megan Fox and making do with Felicity Kendal, if you ask me.

I think Benzema's wrong to choose Madrid mind - just another underemployed millionaire trying to find his clothes-peg amongst all the number nine's hair-products.

Still, you have to say the Real Madrid line-up means whatever talent City assemble you couldn't refer to them as galacticos. Eastlands will have to do with solarsystemicos instead.

And they'll still be working out how to fashion a team by next summer, when God knows how many riches will be laid at the door of Mourinho. You read it here first.

Comments

  • 1. At 2:12pm on 15 Jul 2009, TheDeluded wrote:

    Everything here is correct ... but it's all been said before. in fact it's said during every transfer window.

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  • 2. At 2:53pm on 15 Jul 2009, Torresque wrote:

    Rafa has admitted he's paid over the odds for Johnson, but he had to make a big signing to keep the fans happy and the right back position is probably our weakest. Johnson will basically be on the right wing.

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  • 3. At 2:54pm on 15 Jul 2009, beardedshrimper wrote:

    I think the title will end up in Manchester, though i don't know which side will claim it. I really think Man City have a chance at the title this season.
    Who knows what counts as a challenge for professional footballers? If they really wanted a challenge they'd be queueing outside Roots Hall trying to get a game for Southend on the kind of wages they usually earn in a minute

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  • 4. At 2:55pm on 15 Jul 2009, Rainhamgill13 wrote:

    I can't believe that any club in their right ming will pay £25 million for Adebayor, a self confessed "make as much money as possible" who blatently did not try for Arsenal last year. he made a reputation as a hard working strker so when he stops working you know this guy is a problem. More money than sense City. the difference between them and Chelsea is they had mourinho to knit it all together. Mark Hughes will be a disaster. They could get relegated as no way will all this lot gel and all they have are money motivated players.

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  • 5. At 2:57pm on 15 Jul 2009, kev36663 wrote:

    This whole silly transfer thing is helping make football boring.

    I'm almost glad we're in the Championship away from it...

    Personally, I think the FA needs to audit/regulate some of these transfers. If you take the cases North of the border in Gretna and Livingston - and around a fair few English accidents-awaiting - *no* club should rely on external funds to keep them afloat.

    I'm not talking about an initial investment - but every club should be in a position that they can cover their wages and leccy should their wealthy owners get bored and toddle off.

    I mean, what's gonna happen at Chelski once they win the hallowed Champions League? Will there be anything there for Abramovich to try and achieve?

    I suppose, at least with Man City - the Abu Dhabi group see it as a long term 'investment' in order to help diversify their countries economy when the oil runs out.

    So - I'm not sure if MCFC fans should worry because the long term is that it's gonna be run for mass profit rather than footie.

    And, this isn't like Real Madrid where they can run up load of debt then go cap in hand for another bail-out off the Spanish government...

    On the subject of bail outs...

    Liverpool defaulted on their loan
    RBS give them an extension rather than taking them into administration
    RBS is 70% public owned - a failed bank because of sub-prime lending
    As Liverpool has proven it can't repay the money, is this sub-prime?

    And - as this is using public money.

    Do the public own LFC?

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  • 6. At 2:59pm on 15 Jul 2009, Chizzle wrote:

    Bury rejected my offer of two pints and a pork scratching for Efe Sodje to come and play for our pub side. I thought it was a very fair and balanced offer, personally.

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  • 7. At 2:59pm on 15 Jul 2009, kev36663 wrote:

    and further...

    If John Terry was anywhere the 'gentleman' or 'loyal' person he claims to be... he'd sign a contract extension for Chelsea on reduced wages.

    Because it's about loyalty, not money - right?!

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  • 8. At 3:00pm on 15 Jul 2009, ChocolateBoxKid wrote:

    But didn't Johnson really cost Liverpool something like £10m when L'pool wiped off what Pompey owed them for Peter Crouch?

    I still can't see Man City challenging the top 4, unless one or more of the top 4 goes into self-destruct. I think City will continue to be very strong at home and rather timid away.

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  • 9. At 3:15pm on 15 Jul 2009, Tatloaf wrote:

    re no.8, yes Johnson cost £10 mill plus they wiped the £7 mill Pompey owed them for Crouch, so Johnson cost £17 mill.

    I like the fact an City are splashing the cash and should at some point in the next few seasons challenge the top 4 but would find it hilarious if they went down!

    I genuinely cant see how Hughes is going to keep all those forwards happy, in fact it just isnt going to happen. Robinho to Chelsea anyone?

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  • 10. At 3:15pm on 15 Jul 2009, Dave Manchester wrote:

    Man City's biggest problem is that, well, that they're *City* - a club with a rich history of finding banana skins to slip on.

    Lets not forget, this is a team that managed to lose a FA Cup match due to balloons. That takes some special effort, the kind you hope the other team has in abundance.

    So yes, they've got squillions, they're gathering an impressive team together, they will still somehow - in that magical, mysterious way only City have - come up smelling of sewage after falling into a massive patch of roses. I'm not a City fan, but I do love the club!

    City'll get into Europe, but I can't see them troubling the top 4 after November as that's the traditional time for turkeys to start getting slaughtered...

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  • 11. At 3:19pm on 15 Jul 2009, MrBlueBurns wrote:

    #8 ChocolateBoxKid

    No, Johnson cost Liverpool £17m.

    I sell you something for £10 but I say, don't pay me now, pay me later.

    Later arrives, and rather than have my £10 back, I take something that is worth £17. I'm only going to give you seven quid because you already owe me a tenner.

    Results? £17 difference. Coincidentally, the value of the asset that I've now taken off you hands.

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  • 12. At 3:20pm on 15 Jul 2009, Wash wrote:

    But didn't Johnson really cost Liverpool something like 10m when L'pool wiped off what Pompey owed them for Peter Crouch?

    -------------------------------------------

    It doesn't matter what Pompey owed Liverpool, the cost is still the same!


    Let's look at it this way- I put an extension on your house at a cost of £25k. When I finish the job, you can't afford to pay me. Having worked on your house for 5 months, I quite like the look of it and make an offer to buy your house for £250k. You agree, and I give you £225k (the agreed price less what you owe me). The house has still cost me £250k even though only £225 has changed hands...

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  • 13. At 3:21pm on 15 Jul 2009, Mark wrote:

    City should do better this season because they have got better players. Trouble is that there is a lot of machismo from the chairman in terms of buying players and this can only lead to problems. How many forwards do they need, especially when it was the defence that was the problem last season? Bringing in players like Barry and Tevez, who will strengthen the squad no doubt, and is shrewd. But frankly silly bids for people like Kaka and all the shenanigans that went on with that is just not clever business. I'm not sure Hughes is up to the job with all those egos to try and control either. Someone like Mourinho would be a good manager to bring in but only if he is left to dictate who he wants to bring in. Bringing in superstars with reputations to match is disaster waiting to happen and any manager worth his salt would walk, as Jose promptly did. Madrid did not learn their lesson and will under achieve as they did last time as once again Real will be a pampered poodle parlour, not a football team.

    Big men with big cash, and small brains who are only interested in conducting a w*lly waving competition and will lose a lot of money in the process. Don't ya just love it !!!!

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  • 14. At 3:22pm on 15 Jul 2009, BlockleyBlue wrote:

    If Man City offer £35 million or more for JT, we should take it. If he really wanted to stay at Chelsea, he would have come out and said as much by now. No player is bigger than the club, Man Utd showed that when they sold Ronaldo and Chelsea will still be here with or without JT. Frank Lampard should be given the arm band and allowed to take us forward.

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  • 15. At 3:23pm on 15 Jul 2009, Chizzle wrote:

    I always thought that given the frankly vast wages of the top flight players that they should be forced to pay one week's worth of wages per year (and I'm sure the Government would waive tax rights on it) into a fund designed to alleviate the burden on those who are on low incomes, unemployed or otherwise hard-up. But somehow I doubt that, even though they wouldn't miss that particular sum of money, the players would be willing to do this as most of them are money-grubbing muppets. They talk about giving something back to the community, well this is the perfect way to do just that. See to it, whoever's in the Secretary Of State for Sport hotseat right now. It'll help out tremendously. In fact I'd even extend it to anyone who earns more than £100,000 a year. One week's worth of wages...surely they won't miss it.

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  • 16. At 3:23pm on 15 Jul 2009, RedBlueArmy92 wrote:

    Thats better kid... Been wanting your 2 cents on the window for a while... you did not disapoint one of the best blogs for a while, as ever my hat is tipped in your direction and thumbs are squarely UP!

    The whole City thing is really ridiculous, even worse than when the chels did it, and worse than how the northern reds have been doing it for so long now no-one seems to even aknowledge they do it?

    What's thier plan up thier anyway? They have bought 26 strikers, when they already had a decent set? They have no midfield to speak of and rather than buy or develop thier back four, they just try and secure the service of JT, who has not been anywhere near as good as he was for the last 2 seasons... I imagine this is what would happen if a girl ever played Championship Manager.

    You right about Hughes being ushered out and they will do EVERYTHING possible to secure Jose's signature next season, for some reason though i can't see this all coming together, not for a couple of seasons anyway... Still i suppose it adds a little more excitement to the league, or it kills a bit more of footballs soul, depends what side you look at it from.

    One last thing, any rich Arabs (or anyone rich, were not fussy) fancy a "fresh challenge" or wants a "club with a vision" You can get the Mighty Shots at a great price...

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  • 17. At 3:25pm on 15 Jul 2009, bluenose in salisbury wrote:

    One thing I have noticed is the moaning we're seeing from fans of the 'big four'. Don't they realise that they have been running rough shod over the rest of the league for years. As soon as someone else looks to muscle in on their territory they start having a winge.

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  • 18. At 3:27pm on 15 Jul 2009, rchrdav wrote:

    I was going to reply to #8 but it seems like everyone else has beat me to it

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  • 19. At 3:29pm on 15 Jul 2009, CAPTAIN-PARMO wrote:

    Robbo, Bill Gates??!!, thought he sold out to Inter Sport, anyway wouldn't want their "Mackem Urik" down by the Riverside on a freebie, screeching out from the West stand up at Bernie.

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  • 20. At 3:31pm on 15 Jul 2009, dmrichkt wrote:

    Mark Hughes has watched to many re-runs of the dirty dozen. Mercenaries, Judases and all a little bit odd and nasty. Bring me your unloved and unwanted, particularly if they're a centre forward, and I will sign them. Zaki next? He's playing 'Championship manager' very badly. Can't help feeling he won't last past Xmas and then it'll be another merry go round. In Italy, Spain and England the clubs with the least changes to their starting XI's all won their respective leagues. Money never buys instant success, Chelsea were already established when Abramovich weighed in, City are years away.

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  • 21. At 3:35pm on 15 Jul 2009, Mathna wrote:

    It's all going to end badly, isn't it..

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  • 22. At 3:36pm on 15 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    You couldn't wait to get back and have a pop at Benitez, could you.

    Benitez/Liverpool are damned if they do and damned if they don't by the BBC.

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  • 23. At 3:37pm on 15 Jul 2009, dotty4spurs wrote:

    I agree with blackbaron, you can have as many 'top' players as you like, but unless you get them to 'gel' and play as a proper team you are wasting your cash big time. The amounts that city are prepared to pay is obscene, but didn't we say the same about chelsea when Abramovic took over?

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  • 24. At 3:39pm on 15 Jul 2009, RedBlueArmy92 wrote:

    What the same BBC whose 2 out of 3 presenters on its flagship television show both played for liverpool and are masively biased towards them?

    Lousy BBC picking on poor liverpool! Is this really what we pay our TV licences for?

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  • 25. At 3:39pm on 15 Jul 2009, RedDutchman wrote:

    Of course the likes of Adebayor and Tevez and Barry and (possibly) Terry, and last year Robinho and de Jong and whoever else City manage to sign this summer are all motivated by money! It would be silly to assume they weren't!
    What motivates a highly professional top-flight footballer to NOT play for the league champions and CL-finalist, and instead play for a team who aren't even in the Europa League?

    Rhetorical question...

    For Roque Santa Cruz alone the move to Man City might prove a step upward (perhaps for Nigel de Jong it was last season as well), but for every other signing City have made it has been, and will prove to be, a step down, as they will not be able to challenge for honours this season, and they won't in seasons to come, regardless of whether 'The Special One' decides to cash-in in England yet again.

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  • 26. At 3:41pm on 15 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    "What the same BBC whose 2 out of 3 presenters on its flagship television show both played for liverpool and are masively biased towards them?"

    I think you'll find that they're pundits, not presenters.

    And they do happen to be the only ones who really know what they're talking about.

    And I was referring to the planks who 'blog' on the website, anyway

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  • 27. At 3:46pm on 15 Jul 2009, MrBlueBurns wrote:

    #24 & #26

    Overall, I have never (and I'm not exaggerating for effect) seen Hansen predict a Liverpool loss when he has commented on fixtures on here. Probably likewise Lawrensen with his predictions.

    I think they are bias in print because it is hard as a fan to predict your team losing.

    However, on Match of the Day, they don't hold back with criticism of Liverpool's performance if they think it is due.

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  • 28. At 3:47pm on 15 Jul 2009, BognorRock wrote:

    I think I need to lie down. I just read a Robbo Blog where I agreed with every word!

    As for Real and Man City - they've spent bucketloads but they still have weaker squads that Barca and Man Utd respectively.

    Real don't have a world class central midfielder whereas Barca have the best two in the world in Xavi and Iniesta. City don't have a world class defender whereas Utd have two in Vidic and Ferdinand. Unless Real and City spend even more money on the 'unsexy' positions don't expect them to challange Barca and Utd who are still the best allround sides in Europe in my opinion.



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  • 29. At 3:47pm on 15 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    "What motivates a highly professional top-flight footballer to NOT play for the league champions and CL-finalist, and instead play for a team who aren't even in the Europa League?"

    I'd guess the fact that the current starting XI for the league champions and CL-finalist looks ****-poor because they can't hold on to their best players?

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  • 30. At 3:49pm on 15 Jul 2009, SugarDunkerton wrote:

    "they've built a slide from the gaffer's office to the club car park."

    That got me thinking of the Barclaycard advert and Sven 'Wheeeeing' all the way from his office!!

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  • 31. At 3:54pm on 15 Jul 2009, RedDutchman wrote:

    "I'd guess the fact that the current starting XI for the league champions and CL-finalist looks ****-poor because they can't hold on to their best players?"

    So by that argument the solution is not fight for a first team place at a club where you're guaranteed absolute top-flight European football, but rather move to a team that's been poor for years and for all it's signings haven't fixed the faults that made them fail?

    Logic...

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  • 32. At 3:55pm on 15 Jul 2009, RedBlueArmy92 wrote:

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  • 33. At 3:56pm on 15 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    The logic is, next season they could well be in the Champions League, whereas with that first XI, the league champions and CL-finalist could well be in the Europa League.

    Valencia-Anderson-Carrick-Nani.

    Scary.

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  • 34. At 3:56pm on 15 Jul 2009, andrewtheboom wrote:

    City splashing the cash has certainly made this summer a bit more interesting.

    As a follower of a lower-league club, it's good to see the Premier League not being such a closed book as far as the top four positions are concerned.

    Of course Tevez, Barry and Adebayor are moving for the money, but that's how everyone else decides what job to do, so why should footballers be any different.

    City need to start spending a few bob on their defence though or they will be going into next season with three of Adebayor, Robinho, Tevez, Santa Cruz and Bellamy on the bench, but with Richard Dunne and Micah Richards in the first 11.

    Terry would be a great buy, but surely he won't leave Chelsea for Manchester City, will he?

    http://sportingchameleon.wordpress.com/

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  • 35. At 3:59pm on 15 Jul 2009, Bangforyourbuck wrote:

    @ Sam_Red_Galactico

    Robbo makes one comment against Liverpool on the entire blog and you think it's a pop against them, someone's paranoid.

    And he was only stating the truth. Paying £17m for Glen Johnson is ridiculous. By the current transfer market's standards Glen Johnson + Bobby Zamora could practically buy you Torres. That is batpoop crazy.

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  • 36. At 3:59pm on 15 Jul 2009, mambo wrote:

    Great blog Robbo and perfectly right to make light of the Citee spending. Man.U, Liverpool and Chelsea have been doing it for years and every other club in the country would if they could.

    Just one thing, has JT ever been offered terms by another club? it must be easy to be seen as mr loyalty when you dont get offers to move..

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  • 37. At 4:04pm on 15 Jul 2009, MrBlueBurns wrote:

    #34

    I wouldn't go as far as saying the top 4 is a closed book, but the champions league money earned on a regular basis has created a virtuous cycle.

    Fast forward twelve months, let's just take last year as an example and assume that Arsenal lose out to Man City.

    Chelsea have Abramovich to help out, Man U make profits. Arsenal are in a spot of bother already, though the sale of Adebayor is the equivalent of a season in the champions league, broadly. What is Arsenal don't have Champions League money? Do they sell Fabregas?

    Liverpool are also on a tight budget but still ahead of challengers such as Spurs and Villa because of some of the quality they have already.

    Make no mistake Man City will get fop four within a year or two but that doesn't mean it becomes an open book. It simply means that one of the current members will have their wings clipped in a way that they may not recover from.

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  • 38. At 4:06pm on 15 Jul 2009, trungnt0308l wrote:

    There should be a cap on wage/spending really.

    http://extconsulting.com/puzzle/index.html

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  • 39. At 4:06pm on 15 Jul 2009, RedDutchman wrote:

    "Valencia-Anderson-Carrick-Nani.

    Scary."

    Maybe not, but given his track-record of somehow pulling a team together over an entire season, I'd trust Sir Alex to know more about the capabilities of his team than you or me, and if he reckons they're strong enough, I'm not disagreeing.

    Like I said before, Man City have spent millions on good players. Not great players, mind. Robinho is the only player in the current squad who has moments of greatness. But as a team, if you look at the players that they will be forced to send out (at the moment, obviously, we don't know who else might sign), there is not enough strength there to challenge for honours. A midfield only a cut above average, and a defense that leaks goals, with a very good goalkeeper...I'd rather have Anderson, Carrick and Nani in my team, with two world-class central defenders and a world-class goalkeeper.

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  • 40. At 4:08pm on 15 Jul 2009, Zootmac wrote:

    30 postings and not one suggestion that 'boro be referred to as the solarpanelicos? Sensible discussion is fine, but it doesn't preclude abusing the host.

    There are different factors which might bring about a breakthrough into the top four. Two obvious ones are, firstly, making your team better, and, secondly, causing problems for the existing top four. I wonder why Man City are apparently so besotted with players from the current top four in the Premier League? Tevez? Adebayor? Terry? And, as they haven't yet landed a big midfield signing, who will the next target be? Gerrard?

    Even if City don't land all of these players, they will succeed in destabilising existing wage structures at a time when even the biggest clubs are having to face up to harsh financial reality. Robert Peston has just done a financial blog about Arsenal's situation. Things must be bad.

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  • 41. At 4:09pm on 15 Jul 2009, icyfromdelhi wrote:

    I like the Etihad logo on the new Man City shirt. I hope with all their new signings they can beat some of the top teams in crucial league matches to end the monopoly of top 4. Money has always ruled and those who can't afford can only crib about it.

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  • 42. At 4:09pm on 15 Jul 2009, whatbill wrote:

    Sam_Red_Galactico

    Trust me, its a good thing when your manager gets talked about in the media. It hasn't done Fergie or United any harm over the years.

    Part of the reason Robbo mentions the big 4 in his blogs is that he knows their fans will take the bait. You are just making things easy for him...

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  • 43. At 4:11pm on 15 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    Maybe.

    He's still a snide.

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  • 44. At 4:14pm on 15 Jul 2009, Whiteoutloud wrote:

    Firstly, great blog Robbo, back to your old self, talking about something you know a bit about (instead of cricket & tennis etc). Look at how many comments youve had already.

    This whole thing with players wages is very worrying for the British National game. Some clubs are now paying more in wages than the club actually earns, which creates a similar situation to what the UK Government has done to the country. Spiralling debts being absorbed by some billionaire (or in the countries case, the taxpayer). So what happens when they decide they are bored with this football lark and walk away? A large proportion of the EPL will be plunged into administration within hours. It is frightening what could happen when clubs are no longer being run as businesses and no account of profit and loss is taken into consideration. If the clubs are not owned by billionaires then they are in hock on massive loans that require constant restructure and consolidation. Even First Plus wouldnt touch them. The bottom is going to drop out eventually and the FA will be left with a car crash of a League.

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  • 45. At 4:15pm on 15 Jul 2009, Scenicjoker wrote:

    AM I in a dreamland? Tell me seriously, when was the last time that a team who struggled to finish 10th then went on to win the league? Tevez is clearly excellent, but the players around him at City have not won anything except Robinho. At Man Utd he was around stars used to winning titles...knowing what it takes...

    That's not even taking into the fact that the defence at City is still a joke.

    Nor the fact that it does not matter how many players you sign..sometimes it takes a season for all the players to even gel.

    Maybe it is me in the dreamworld knowing how realistic football is...I guess all those City fans no better after years of challenging for the tile....they can clearly put me right.

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  • 46. At 4:16pm on 15 Jul 2009, Sheikhamaker wrote:

    5. - Finally , a man with some sense
    10. - agree completely, im sure we'll find a way of self destructing.

    Robbo, Utd, Liverpool, Chelsea have all been spending ridiculous sums of money on player fees and wages for a long time, much longer than city so why is it now our fault we're ruining the game ?

    At the end of the day, for anyone to crack the top 4 will need money and lots of it, Sure you have teams like Everton & Villa who have come close after years of team building but its got them nowhere !! (no prizes for 5th/6th) Everton made 4th a couple of seasons ago but crashed out in the early rounds cos they didnt have a big enough squad.

    In my eyes anyone and everyone outside the top4 that is slagging city and what were trying to do is more than happy playing for 5th & 6th and letting the Sky4 have their way for eternity. I think it would be great for the league if more teams came into new money and made the PL more competetive rather than the usual dross season in season out which is what your all saying by demeaning our efforts.

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  • 47. At 4:17pm on 15 Jul 2009, Scenicjoker wrote:

    That should be know better and challenging for the title.

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  • 48. At 4:18pm on 15 Jul 2009, An_der_son wrote:

    Great post, very accurate, annoying, and hilarious all at once.

    I'm very happy with how united have handled this summers transfer window, buying 2 young players who will surely only get better at united and one player who i personally think will get a lot of goals when given the chance, pretty much for free i might add.

    It looks to me like liverpool have missed out on their best opportunity to win the league again, and rafa masewell have thrown 13million of the 17 down the toilet (in my opinion, johnson is not worth 17mil!!). With alonso set to go i see them really struggling.

    As for madrid, what can you do? Just laugh. And city? Again, it's funny. Money doesn't always mean that it equals success, i think madrid are a disgrace how they've gone about business this window, i sincerely hope the team doesn't gel together, though there's no telling at this point though.

    Bring on the new season :-)

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  • 49. At 4:19pm on 15 Jul 2009, Boshorange wrote:

    I have just been introduced to a genuinely new experience: enjoying reading a blog by Robbo.........
    Everything you say is true sir. As a fan of a non-premier league club (admittedly further down than Boro) i can appreciate the stupidity of the money being thrown around. Thats not to say that fans of 'normal' EPL clubs dont appreciate said stupidity though...
    Benzema has made a very bad choice with going to Real Madrid. Man utd are a much bigger and a much more stable club. Can you see Pellegrini in charge at Christmas? No. He'll be down the European job centre, in line behind Mark Hughes. Benzema would have been given game after game after game at Man Utd, in the best League in the world. Here he would have truly had the opportunity to justify a lavish price tag, whereas at Madrid he will be simply another expensive player. Ronaldo, for all his diving, cheating and petulance, was a star in England. Through this, he was always going to leave for a hefty sum that is not necessarily justifiable, but understandable. Benzema isnt proven quality. Hes spent his career in the French league (which is behind England, Spain, Italy, Germany and Holland domestic leagues, in my opinion). The ONLY league in the world where he could have played, and defined himself as a 'world class' player would have been at Man Utd.
    On another not, i bet Boro are laughing at Villa. £12ml for Downing?! i'd have paid £7ml tops, and that would have been a push........

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  • 50. At 4:20pm on 15 Jul 2009, DaveWalnut wrote:

    Regarding John Terry, I am absolutely astonished that he hasn't quashed any association with Man City. If I were a Chelsea fan I'd want rid of him. Based on his non-response the guy clearly has no passion, allegiance or conviction to Chelsea or football; he is only interested in cash. How he can possibly remain the England captain and be a shining example to the rest of the squad if he goes to Man City?

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  • 51. At 4:20pm on 15 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    "I'm very happy with how united have handled this summers transfer window"

    And here come the liars, trying to put the gloss on their owners trousering the £80m.

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  • 52. At 4:23pm on 15 Jul 2009, RedBlueArmy92 wrote:

    46: (no prizes for 5th/6th) well except for Uefa Cup/Europa league...

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  • 53. At 4:23pm on 15 Jul 2009, Dragoon_WHUFC wrote:

    #15 i know that the whole of west ham and players at the other london clubs do this for the charity that supports nurses on low income or at least did last year i think the exception was chelsea but i'm not sure any chelsea fans know if they did in the end ? i heard there were issues as all the clubs have the ones they support.

    anyway on to the issue at hand i'll with the people who say sparky not got it in him to deal with the egos the other issue is city defense. and most of these purchases are owner driven

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  • 54. At 4:24pm on 15 Jul 2009, MrBlueBurns wrote:

    #51 Sam_Red_Galactico

    I'm no fan of Man U but what's the point in spending money for the sake of it.

    People like you criticise Man U for operating with a large mortgage then when they do something about it, you criticise them for footballing reasons.

    Any chance for a cheap shot some people.

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  • 55. At 4:26pm on 15 Jul 2009, RedBlueArmy92 wrote:

    54, if you read 16, i have already offered cheap Shots! no takers yet though...

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  • 56. At 4:28pm on 15 Jul 2009, hoarse_trojan wrote:

    Good blog Robbo.
    Call me old school, but I still like to think footballers move for reasons other than money. Ronaldo left for Real Madrid: as painful as it is to see a player want to move to what they consider a bigger club, at least it is Real Madrid and quite conceivable that the kid grew up dreaming of playing there.
    Did Tevez, Adebayor, Barry, Santa Cruz dream of playing for City as kids? Did they dream of moving there up until last season?
    Of course not.
    Now I'm not saying that players should only move to clubs that they used to dream about, but moving from a top flight club in Europe, to one that may not even challenge for it next season, can not be because of 'ambition' or 'new challenges' or other pathetic reasons.
    Why not Everton if you want a real challenge? They can push for Europe.
    Because Everton can't pay anything like City, that's why...

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  • 57. At 4:29pm on 15 Jul 2009, bluetrimmtrab wrote:

    I'm really excited about City. United, Liverpool, Chelsea and to a degree Arsenal have been splashing the cash for years. ow the boots on the other foot, people don't like it.

    I hope that City win the title giving the established old guard a good spanking along the way.

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  • 58. At 4:32pm on 15 Jul 2009, RedDutchman wrote:

    "I'm very happy with how united have handled this summers transfer window"

    Same here. The new signings will enable this United team to develop a new style of play, and new tactics less focused on one player, and more on the team.

    There will always be doubters and haters, people who claim that you're lying when you admit to being happy that the owners of the club you support show sense in dealing with debts rather than going on a spending spree after receiving a ridiculous sum of money.

    To be honest, I would hate to be in the position of a City fan right now. One of the best things about following a club like Manchester United, or Liverpool, or Arsenal, is the rich history, the proven track-record of success, and the knowledge that big-name signings have come off the back of success, not because some multi-billionaire fancies playing owner of a football club.

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  • 59. At 4:35pm on 15 Jul 2009, Sheikhamaker wrote:

    52. - not quite as lucrative as the champs league, villa showed what the majority of the premiership think about the europa league last season and look what happened after that !!!

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  • 60. At 4:41pm on 15 Jul 2009, DaveWalnut wrote:

    #15

    That's quite a brash statement. If you looked into it properly I'm sure you'd find that a number of footballers and other professionals give well over one weeks wage to charity.

    It has nothing to do with missing the amount of cash, its the desire to do something good with it.

    If a player wants to keep every penny he earns, let him. Would you be happy if you were forced to give away your money to a cause you aren't interested in?

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  • 61. At 4:41pm on 15 Jul 2009, CypriotJohn wrote:

    Nice bit of fun cheered up a dreary day! I thought that Tevez looked very odd, what was that bandage all about, is he Frankensteins monster and just been in for more head surgery? Whatever it was meant to be it was a shocker! To all the Chelsea out there, stop griping, its what your horrible club did a few years back, splashing the cash, but you cant buy the European Cup can you? Deal with it you set of chumps.

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  • 62. At 4:41pm on 15 Jul 2009, bertrandmcnally wrote:

    City for the title? The title!? We haven't even seen this squad play a game. They haven't even all practiced together! The title...the title of most money for least result maybe? Oh, now I've done it too in the opposite direction. Oh well.

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  • 63. At 4:43pm on 15 Jul 2009, gay fish wrote:

    Felicity Kendall is great with spuds (according to the good life) and she is the more mature woman who definitely would know what she likes (:)) and would probably have your dinner on the table when you get home. Go out with Megan Fox and apart from the fact that she will have to spend 18 hours a day on a film set with mostly men you will also have to sit down to watch a film with her in snogging other men (although if she is telling the truth it could be snogging other women).

    I know which one I would rather choose!

    I think the likelihood of John Terry leaving Chelsea is about the same as Steve Gibson giving Gareth Southgate the sack before pre-season is finished. Still it will be fun watching him try to keep his chin off the floor when his agent lets him know (rubbing his hands at the time at the thought of his comission) how much they are offering. With the improvements in their squad and less game comittments this season Man City are actually going to have a massive advantage over the big 4...e.g. we play Real Madrid home and away and then have to play Man City in the league. I think we are going to see an awful lot more 'surprising cup exit' headlines in relation to the big boys, the FA cup and the Carling Cup.

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  • 64. At 4:50pm on 15 Jul 2009, Toadflax wrote:

    Bill Gates owning the Boro? I remember him playing for us back in the 60s alongside Dickie Rooks, Gordon Jones and Alex "Farmer" Smith...that was enough.

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  • 65. At 4:52pm on 15 Jul 2009, Zootmac wrote:

    "Felicity Kendall is great with spuds"?
    Any more tips from the Hannibal Lecter Cookbook?

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  • 66. At 4:54pm on 15 Jul 2009, captainmatt_williams wrote:

    they're just signing on at city for the money. i think villa, everton and spurs will be above them next year anyway.
    http://jumpersforgoalposts1212.wordpress.com/

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  • 67. At 4:55pm on 15 Jul 2009, GazUtd wrote:


    That's more like it. A couple of hours and we're already over the 60 mark in comments. See what happens when you ignore the cricket.

    Of course about 47 of those comments were from some Liverpool bloke complaining on St. Rafa's behalf but still, a comment is a comment. Better than having to wait a few weeks until Rafa prepares another 'surprise' press conference with his unrehearsed factsheet.

    Ronaldo went to Real, but did he do it for the money? I'm not so sure. I think the fawning of the Spanish media and fans means more to him than a billion or two a week.

    One thing is for sure though is that where Real may have gotten a few mercenaries (depending on your opinion) they have gotten a few who can actually play a bit. City on the other hand have somehow managed to pay the price of sending a man to Jupiter on some of the most overrated players since Kerry Dixon. Good old City, they never cease to give us all a laugh. And it will keep coming, because Robbo I'm sorry to disappoint you but instead of The Special One they'll be paying Mick McCarthy's wages next year. He did have the guts to send that awful Roy Keane home and they need a manager with guts.

    And I can't believe you'd have Megan Fox over Felicity Kendall Robbo? Are we talking in hey-days or both as they are now?

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  • 68. At 4:56pm on 15 Jul 2009, RedDutchman wrote:

    "Any more tips from the Hannibal Lecter Cookbook?"

    Substitute the spuds for fried Tim Rice...

    *cringe*

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  • 69. At 4:59pm on 15 Jul 2009, Andre the Giant wrote:

    Damn, I've spilt my bag of crisps down the settee

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  • 70. At 5:12pm on 15 Jul 2009, Diablo Rojo wrote:

    36. At 3:59pm on 15 Jul 2009, mambohammer wrote:
    Great blog Robbo and perfectly right to make light of the Citee spending. Man.U, Liverpool and Chelsea have been doing it for years and every other club in the country would if they could.

    Just one thing, has JT ever been offered terms by another club? it must be easy to be seen as mr loyalty when you dont get offers to move..
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    I think you need to look at this mambohammer Citeh are currently top of the transfer spending league - and that's since the prem began...oh well at least they're top at something.
    http://transferleague.co.uk/

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  • 71. At 5:13pm on 15 Jul 2009, Rick wrote:

    The interesting times may start if the Portsmouth sale goes through. I'm not sure how much money the bloke buying that has but it appears to be a substancial amount. He'll only have a matter of a few weeks to find himself a manager and a team by the way they are flogging all their stars (Crouch to Sunderland according the the BBC website I notice).

    If they do get a high profile manager as appears to eb the intention (Mancini?) I'm sure they'll insist on a shed load of new stars because if you take Crouch, Davis, Pennent, Defoe and Johnson out of last season's Pompey without adding substancial talent back in my reckoning is you end up with relegation. They weren't a million miles away last time.

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  • 72. At 5:14pm on 15 Jul 2009, alwaysindoubt wrote:

    But what do you think of the £12m Downing deal Robbo?

    All this waving of cash from Man City is going to make for an interesting start to the season if nothing else. I have a (admittedly non-existant) hat here ready to eat but the only thing I can see Hughes winning next season is the 'sack race'. We'll see.

    Surely the obvious point for Benitez, that perhaps somebody should point out to him, is that an overheated transfer market is rather a good time to be looking at selling players. Something all the other big three teams will have taken advantage of if Terry and Adebayor both go.

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  • 73. At 5:17pm on 15 Jul 2009, palace_mark wrote:

    Welcome back to the real world robbo
    Far more entertaining than that drivel you was writing on the tennis and cricket!
    Back where you belong!!!

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  • 74. At 5:17pm on 15 Jul 2009, pjbpjb007 wrote:

    Agree with everything Robbo's said, except for the Megan Fox vs. Felicity Kendal thing! I was just a nipper when the Good Life was popular, but even during my tender years I recognised her deliciousness. The quintessential posh bit of totty... beats Foxy every time in my humble opinion!

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  • 75. At 5:17pm on 15 Jul 2009, alwaysindoubt wrote:

    Why do pound signs not work on here? Is this a nod back to the grand old days of the beeb where the sordid talk of money would have been seen as awfully uncouth old chap?

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  • 76. At 5:19pm on 15 Jul 2009, pjbpjb007 wrote:

    £

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  • 77. At 5:19pm on 15 Jul 2009, pjbpjb007 wrote:

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  • 78. At 5:19pm on 15 Jul 2009, Sheikhamaker wrote:

    70. - where would city be from the start of the premiership to season 04/05 ?....Ill put money on that we're not even in the top 10!!

    Ridiculous post, of course any club is going to spend money if they have it.

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  • 79. At 5:20pm on 15 Jul 2009, dmrichkt wrote:

    Ways for City to get into the top 4.

    1) Apply to join the SPL or Welsh Premier.
    2) Buy one of the 'top 4'
    3) Get some defenders, midfielders, understanding, passion and a proper manager.
    4) Make a Christmas single.

    Only one of these options seems realistic.

    They should sign up Simon Cowell now.

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  • 80. At 5:20pm on 15 Jul 2009, pjbpjb007 wrote:

    alwaysindoubt - indeed, the Euro sign doesn't work either! I wonder if the dollar is ok here? $

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  • 81. At 5:25pm on 15 Jul 2009, joebloggins wrote:

    When all 19 premier league clubs are owned by filthy rich billionaires, there will still be 3 teams relegated !!. Abramovich started it but when him and all the others get fed up writing cheques, the teams will be immediately bust -- City's wage bill is probably going to be north of 50 million 2009-10.

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  • 82. At 5:27pm on 15 Jul 2009, Diablo Rojo wrote:

    78. At 5:19pm on 15 Jul 2009, MaBoabyUrMooth wrote:
    70. - where would city be from the start of the premiership to season 04/05 ?....Ill put money on that we're not even in the top 10!!

    Ridiculous post, of course any club is going to spend money if they have it.
    -------------------------------
    ...re 78 - and Citeh weren't even in the prem for 4 years were they?

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  • 83. At 5:28pm on 15 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    You just know, though, that all these signings are completely out of Hughes' hands.

    It's quite funny, yet at the same time a little sad, watching him in his press conferences, like a rabbit in headlights.

    You can practically see the the little devil on one shoulder shouting "hang on in there and grab the massive compo cheque when it inevitably comes in January!", while the angel on the other is whispering "Just stand up, bow and walk out - for the good of your career and, more importantly, your integrity as a human being".

    And let's spare a thought for John Hartson - what good's all his money now, eh?

    Poor sod.

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  • 84. At 5:33pm on 15 Jul 2009, cloggy saint wrote:

    I wish footballers would just come out and say they've moved because they were offered more money. I've changed jobs many times to earn more money and I never felt bad about it

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  • 85. At 5:33pm on 15 Jul 2009, kuba_manunited121 wrote:

    Far too many people complain about Robbo's blogs.
    Most of those people still read each single one and enjoy it, yet still feel the need to be incredibly pedantic.
    Keep up the good work Robbo, your blog is always the first one i look for on this site.

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  • 86. At 5:42pm on 15 Jul 2009, Bertie Button wrote:

    You go to the gas pump, you pay the price or you walk. The price CITY are paying is dictated, its the MARKET PRICE.

    How much did UTD pay for Valencia (Undisclosed, in reality more than 12 Mil)at least we are out in the open about it.

    Top 4, yes, a posibility, we are stronger, much stronger, the rest weaker, especially across the road from us.

    And our manager? He is more SPECIAL than the Special One, it will be proven out.

    Rome fell, Attila The Hun Fell, Liverpools dominance Fell, it happens, why not now?

    5 Years ago we bought Samaras, Thatcher, Danny Mills- A year go we were looking at being relegation fodder. (not unlike the Boro, sorry Robbo)

    Now the Sky's the limit.

    Adversity builds strength, arrogance builds complacency

    Free at last, Free at last

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  • 87. At 5:42pm on 15 Jul 2009, VemanLiverpool wrote:

    Robbo Robbo...mate, ur heart wastn't in this artical (i didn't laugh!). I think the long wait (a couple of weeks) before the season starts (coupled with the fact Boro will be in the wrong Champ league) has depressed you!

    I for one love the way Chelski are being out cheque-booked!!...for a change someone is forcing thier 'best' player to move for money!! Oh how the mighty have fallen, its like a satire...truth stranger than fiction...poetic justice?...I hope!

    I'll be very surprised if JT moves to manchester! All the money in the world but it's still Man City...isn't it?

    Rafa has a point, he had to buy someone and in my opinion still needs one more shinny thing...some creative genius or at least a replacement for Alonso/Masch/both!!! Think youth will get a chance (Jay S, Plessis,K Nemeth, Zhar, Darby, Kelly,Pacheco!) and maybe that chap called vor-a-nin-in-in (or something)...he's meant to be good but went on loan...Kean related error.

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  • 88. At 5:54pm on 15 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    "City's wage bill is probably going to be north of 50 million 2009-10."

    That was a while ago! Here's last year's figures per club:

    Club Bill (£ms)

    Arsenal 101.3
    Aston Villa 50.4
    Blackburn Rovers 39.7
    Bolton Wanderers 39.0
    Chelsea 149.0
    Everton 44.5
    Fulham 39.3
    Hull City (2007) 6.9
    Liverpool 80.0
    Manchester City 54.2
    Manchester United 121.1
    Middlesbrough 34.8
    Newcastle United 74.6
    Portsmouth 54.7
    Stoke City 11.9
    Sunderland 37.1
    Tottenham Hotspur 52.9
    West Brom 21.8
    West Ham United 44.2
    Wigan Athletic 38.4

    The most surprising for me was that Arsenal, with their famed wage cap, are spending over £20m per year more on wages than Liverpool; Villa, Portsmouth and West Ham are paying comical wages for the players they have; Spurs don't have that bad a bill considering the amount they throw about on signings.

    What isn't surprising is Newcastle - that club is run by people on acid, I swear.

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  • 89. At 5:56pm on 15 Jul 2009, Malt Loaf wrote:

    What goes round comes around. City may well win the Premier League within the next four seasons, but if they do then so what? Huddersfield used to be a football powerhouse in the 1930's but look at what happened to them! If City win anything, good luck to them, and the fans should enjoy it while they can and not follow the example set by gloating then moaning of Chelsea supporters who are scared they are going to sink back into the abyss! http://www.loserscomesecond.com/

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  • 90. At 5:57pm on 15 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    "How much did UTD pay for Valencia (Undisclosed, in reality more than 12 Mil)at least we are out in the open about it."

    I beg your pardon?

    Everybody knows Valencia went for AT LEAST £16m-£18m, hence the 'undisclosed' so you don't look ridiculous.

    And let's not even go near the 'the market is overpriced, we're not buying any more players' horse****.

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  • 91. At 5:58pm on 15 Jul 2009, John1948 wrote:

    I can't make my mind up. Should league positions (and hence Champions' League places) be decided by (1) points divided by season ticket price (2) points divided by weekly wage bill or (3) points divided by the cost of the squad?

    You see, all I want is to see exciting games played by reasonably skillful players, who are part of the club I support. If I don't feel that a player is really part of my team, then a victory due to their moment of genius is fairly meaningless in the vast scheme of things.

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  • 92. At 5:59pm on 15 Jul 2009, Zootmac wrote:

    To all you critics of Felicity Kendall, can I just point out that she was named "Rear of the Year" in 1981? Where's your Megan Fox now?

    Admittedly, Felicity's prime asset might require a little smoothing at this stage of the game, but the Morphy Richards Turbo Steam does a helluva job at setting 5 .

    Wonder what colour Ian Poulter's trousers will be tomorrow?

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  • 93. At 6:00pm on 15 Jul 2009, whatbill wrote:

    #86 - I think chelsea have shown that when getting to the very top money really isn't everything. 6 years after Abramovich brought the club they have gone 3 seasons without a CL and 3 without a premiership title. And that is from a club who were already top 4. Kenyon's aspiration of Chelsea being the biggest club in the world looks a long way away and I can't see it being any easier for City.

    City are doing what chelsea did before them and buying lots of players in their prime for large transfer fees and massive wages. How will they get a return on that? In 3 years the value of their assets will have dropped and they will have a lot of aging players on massive wages who refuse to leave. Abramovich proven that even multi-billionaires will only put up money for so long.

    My next point is that whoever the players are, City will only prosper if they have a top notch manager, capable of taking on Fergie, Rafa, Wenger, etc. Chelsea have only won things when Mourinho and Hiddink were manager. Is Mark Hughes really as good as them?

    The final point is that there will be a lot of pressure on City next year - they will become a scalp for every other premiership team and if all the new players fail to bond, the team could struggle.

    Overall, City will clearly be a threat to the top 6 and possibly the top 4 if any of them drop off a bit. And if the owners have patience, they may win a few trophies in the next few years. But in the long term I don't see it - even if United fall, City will not replace them...

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  • 94. At 6:05pm on 15 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    "all I want is to see exciting games played by reasonably skillful players, who are part of the club I support. If I don't feel that a player is really part of my team, then a victory due to their moment of genius is fairly meaningless in the vast scheme of things."

    I couldn't agree more - how do you think Utd fans are going to feel, being dug out of the mire by Owen, for example?

    Actually, that's probably a bad example, as everyone knows that, if he knocks a few in for them, they'll totally forget about all the vile abuse they threw at him when he played for Liverpool.

    The club I love, for example, is supposedly looking at losing two of their best players in Mascherano and Alonso. Now I think I'm in the minority in not having an axe to grind with Xabi if he goes as he's given five years of service to the club and has been offered a chance to go and play for the biggest club in his own country. If we get the money being talked about then I'd say "Thanks for all the memories" and wish him all the best.

    If Masch went, however, I wouldn't be so happy - we rescued him from West Ham and were lambasted by every single person for paying £18m for him - now he's seen as arguably the best in the world in his position thanks to Benitez and I feel he owes us a little more than "my wife wants a bit of sun on her back".

    For the money he's on, he can send her on holiday - knuckle down, do your job and remember who saved your career.

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  • 95. At 6:07pm on 15 Jul 2009, Magnifecento_red wrote:

    I haven't read all the comments so apologies in advance if I bring up something that someone else already has.

    First of all, people having a go at Rafa Benitez for stating the truth about this ''ridiculous'' transfer market...he was merely indicating how he HAD to pay £17 million for a full back that he had been tracking for two seasons because Chelsea and Man City were in for the same player, hence the over inflated fee. Not to mention that he only had to gather up £10 million because of the £7 million Portsmouth already owed Liverpool for Peter Crouch...and yes I know it still adds up to £17 million, but at least the full fee wasn't coming out of Liverpool FC's bank account in one go.

    In future, Rafa should keep his mouth shut as the media seem to take everything he says out of context. This to them is another 'rant' from an angry Rafa Benitez!!

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  • 96. At 6:09pm on 15 Jul 2009, Veato wrote:

    If someone offered me double the wages I was currently on I would seriously consider it. If I was already on £100k a week... hmmmm... maybe not so much. But that being said if I DID accept the money I would at least be honest about it and not babble some crap about it being for the challenge.

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  • 97. At 6:11pm on 15 Jul 2009, Veato wrote:

    Oh and I said at work earlier that I'd have a tenner on Hughes being the first manager out of the door this season. There seemed to be plenty of agreement.

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  • 98. At 6:16pm on 15 Jul 2009, gersfan4ever wrote:

    If Masherano and Alonso leave and Torres gets injured at any point Man city will take Liverspool's place in the top 4.

    As a Chelsea fan im not worried about Man city as they're NOT gonna win the league and if they do make the top 4 it will be Liverpool or Arsenal who'll lose out.

    Anyone got any ideas on Citys first 11

    Robinho Adebayor Tevez Santa Cruz Bellamy Wright Phillips

    Elano Barry

    Kompany Dunne Richards

    Given

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  • 99. At 6:19pm on 15 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    Magnifecento_red,

    An earlier poster tried to put it across that Rafa being spoken about on these pages by BBC journalists who, 'in my opinion' (I hate to do that but Man Utd fans use that phrase to duck out of every argument), hide behind the 'blog' tag to put forward their own subjective views, is a good thing as he's in the public eye.

    I absolutely disagree with that point - there are certain so-called journalists who plainly have an axe to grind with Benitez for whatever reason - be it club bias, his country of origin or, most probably, the opportunity to pick a sensationalist story out of his lack of nuance when it comes to the English language - and you can see it in EVERY (thump table) SINGLE (thump table) THING (thump table) they 'blog'.

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  • 100. At 6:20pm on 15 Jul 2009, OldManuFan wrote:

    Spending money on players has always happened and as someone mentioned before, you pay what you have to (or get what other people will pay). Of course the numbers are silly - but that reflects TV and market rights anyway (didn't Real make money on the last set of Galacticos?)

    I worry more when there seems less interest in developing players than buying them. ManU still produce a lot of players from their academy (although a lot of them are also 'bought') And Arsenal have done this (some would say) to a fault. But I can't think of too many Chelsea or Liverpool players coming along to replace the Terrys or Gerrards. Man City relied a lot on their developing players the past couple of years (I was impressed by the City players in the England U21 squad), but what will this chasing of big names do for the young players?

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  • 101. At 6:26pm on 15 Jul 2009, GazUtd wrote:


    Curse that damn media, always making up stories instead of directly quoting what St. Rafa has said.

    As for Poulters trousers tomorrow, they'll be the usual...

    A patterened ensemble made up of 'I'm not good enough red', 'My mouth is bigger than my driver' white and the always favourite 'Look at my clothes rather than my lack of talent' white.

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  • 102. At 6:26pm on 15 Jul 2009, GazUtd wrote:

    Or blue even. Oops.

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  • 103. At 6:29pm on 15 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    "ManU still produce a lot of players from their academy (although a lot of them are also 'bought')

    Where are they? This is the biggest myth in the world.

    Who's come through, without being bought in, since the Beckhams, Giggs' and Scholes'?

    "And Arsenal have done this (some would say) to a fault."

    No they haven't - they've bought them in.

    "But I can't think of too many Chelsea or Liverpool players coming along to replace the Terrys or Gerrards."

    You're right there - I can't speak for Chelsea, but as far as Liverpool is concerned it's why Benitez fought tooth and nail to get control of the youth system at the club - something which BBC and 606 scoffed for a long time, I might add - has brought in a load of young lads (which lazy people simply add to his spend as 'squad spending' - again, to have a pop at him) and absolutely cleared out the dead wood which has seen us own the FA Youth Cup yet come bottom of the reserve league.

    But when you're only getting the negatives reported about a club that is hated by an entrenched Man Utd-bent sports media (where, perversely, their manager won't even speak to them because the news arm had the audacity to uncover his son's dodginess) and they're bending over backwards to get into his good books, what can you do.

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  • 104. At 6:29pm on 15 Jul 2009, Andy wrote:

    If Terry does leave Chelsea for City then I genuinely hope that Chelsea win this years Champions League.

    Hopefuly with Terry sitting in the crowd, the cameras continually showing the realisation in his face that perhaps, just perhaps, he had made a mistake.

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  • 105. At 6:31pm on 15 Jul 2009, everythingbutthegoal wrote:

    When Abramovich took over Chelsea they already had the spine of a good team - finishing 4th the season before. With a few signings in weaker positions they were able to finish 2nd (not enough to save Ranieri though). In that season, and ever since, Chelsea are one of those teams that all other premiership clubs are a very motivated to beat (after their closest rivals and the likes of Manchester Utd and Liverpool) as are a great scalp. Chelsea with their already strong and settled team were able to cope with that.

    I don't think the same can be said of Manchester City. Undoubtedly their squad will be stronger but it takes time for a team to settle and a lot of teams will be very fired up to beat the blue half of Manchester. Will have to see who else they sign - but at the moment i think scraping 7th spot is more realistic - probably closer in points to the bottom 4 than top 4.

    I consider Everton and Tottenham to have a better starting 11 - not necessarily in quality of player - but certainly in quality of team and manager. And both those teams are light years away from breaking the top 4.

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  • 106. At 6:32pm on 15 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    "If Masherano and Alonso leave and Torres gets injured at any point Man city will take Liverspool's place in the top 4"

    No they won't, don't be ridiculous.

    Lucas is coming on leaps and bounds and we can drop Gerrard back into MF and play Kuyt upfront with Torres with Benayoun on the right.

    Some people absolutely discount the value of options.

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  • 107. At 6:34pm on 15 Jul 2009, GazUtd wrote:


    Robbo - On second thoughts maybe you should go back to the cricket next week. Just make sure you're completely unbiased as some people's blood pressure seems to be going higher than patients of Jacko's doctor.

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  • 108. At 6:35pm on 15 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    everythingbutthegoal,

    If Everton could get some money behind them, they really would be realistic top 4 contenders as they have a real manager who doesn't take any nonsense.

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  • 109. At 6:38pm on 15 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    GazUtd,

    It's all very well trying to be clever, but the simple fact is you have nothing to say as your starting XI will have the midfield that I suggested earlier so you're screwed.

    Unless you put the Emperor's New Clothes on the left again to make room for Owen.

    Now that WOULD be funny.

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  • 110. At 6:39pm on 15 Jul 2009, Andy wrote:

    City starting 11, The Reverse Christmas Tree:

    Given

    Kompany

    Barry-Ireland

    Santa Cruz-Bellamy-Tevez-Adebayor-Robinho

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  • 111. At 6:39pm on 15 Jul 2009, OldManuFan wrote:

    ""ManU still produce a lot of players from their academy (although a lot of them are also 'bought')

    Where are they? This is the biggest myth in the world.

    Who's come through, without being bought in, since the Beckhams, Giggs' and Scholes'?"

    Brown, O'Shea and Fletcher may not be not Beckham Giggs and Scholes but regular first team players. Evans, Gibson, Campbell, Welbeck, Macheda the Da Silva twins - shall I go on? OK, many being bought in as I said, but still being developed through the youth system.

    As an ManU fan, of course I note my own teams record and I am quite happy to admit that I don't look at Liverpool's academy squad, but where will the next Carragher or Gerrard come from if they don't get a chance?

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  • 112. At 6:39pm on 15 Jul 2009, GazUtd wrote:


    GazUtd,

    It's all very well trying to be clever

    ======================================

    Thank you. That's the nicest thing anyone has ever said to me on Robbo's blog.

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  • 113. At 6:42pm on 15 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    lol

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  • 114. At 6:43pm on 15 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    Come on though, you can't be happy going into the new season with the XI that's available to you.

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  • 115. At 6:51pm on 15 Jul 2009, GazUtd wrote:


    Am I happy?

    Well I'm not overjoyed but what else can we do. There is no one out there worth buying at the minute without paying a stupid price, and even at that there is still not many worth buying.

    I would love to see Essien come to United but that's not going to happen, apart from that who else in the Premiership is there to get?

    The only thing that we have lost from a team that has won the league 3 years in a row is Ronaldo. Now granted he was the best player in the league but no matter what certain sections would have you believe he didn't win the thing on his own.

    Also our team was built around him meaning Rooney was not used to his full potential and meaning we had to have extra defensive cover. So without Ronaldo we may not have his goals but we do have options we didn't have with him.

    Also having Hargreaves back, if he comes back, is immense. What I do want to see though is the younger players given more chances than Scholes (who I think has no place in the team any more, sorry Scholesy but that's just the way it is) and Giggs.

    We still have a solid defence (as long as Van Der Sar and Neville don't play), a midfield of Hargeaves, Fletcher and Valencia doesn't seem that bad and a front 3 of Rooney, Berbatov and Owen is fine by me.

    The two things I am looking forward to though are the inevitable failures that will happen at City and Real. I just can't make up my mind which one I am going to laugh at most.

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  • 116. At 6:51pm on 15 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    You're taking an awful long time to think of a justification, you Utd hangers-on.

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  • 117. At 6:57pm on 15 Jul 2009, everythingbutthegoal wrote:

    Re: Man U's midfield,

    Certainly doesn't look great (maybe in the future i will be proved wrong but Anderson is surely one of the biggest cases of emperors new clothes) - but they have only lost the one midfielder(albeit world player of the year) and think their remaining strikers are all capable of 15 plus goals.

    Man U will put up a strong title challenge with Liverpool and Chelsea. If i was fergie i would be gutted i moved for Valencia so early (probably to stop the likes of Real getting in there) now that Ashley Young could be available. Why else would Villa pay £12 million for Downing?

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  • 118. At 7:01pm on 15 Jul 2009, NEARPOSTHEADER wrote:

    I have to smile when people say "all this money is making football boring" - how many of them will NOT make a point of watching Man City on the box? Yes, you can argue that it's making the quality gap into an enormous cavern but, again, how many suporters wouldn't be excited/overjoyed if a business galactico made their club into his bottomless-pit-plaything?
    And another thing, do all you Man U/Chelsea/Liverpool etc. supporters out there really want your team to win every trophy every year? Now THAT would be boring! Bad enough as it is with a trophy or two per season with maybe the Carling Cup as a scrap thrown to the also-rans.

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  • 119. At 7:02pm on 15 Jul 2009, OLIVERTZ wrote:

    City will still be a tea pot team. Can't see all these 'brought ins' gelling somehow. Why? It's like buying the wrong ingredients for a cake, still mixing them together and thinking that the bake will sort it out.

    But I maybe wrong........

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  • 120. At 7:04pm on 15 Jul 2009, OLIVERTZ wrote:

    Oh sorry-for the youngsters- teapot team is ....ending up in the middle of the table

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  • 121. At 7:04pm on 15 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    You're the first Man Utd fan who's given even a hint of not being happy, so kudos to you.

    I envy your defence, I really do - you have two of the best defenders in the world and they won you the title last year, I think you'd agree.

    But you have to admit, you've lost 30 goals and haven't replaced them.

    Liverpool were the highest scorers in the league, despite being told by THIS SITE that they didn't have any goalscorers after Torres and Gerrard, both of whom were out for reasonably long periods and played together, what, 12 times?

    I think Kuyt outscored both your £30m strikers, didn't he?

    Benayoun was awesome when, as usual, this site was egging everyone on to take the mickey out of Benitez.

    Valencia has scored about 5 goals in three seasons, hasn't he?

    The lad who will take over Alonso's position, should he go - he got booed by his own fans when we were top of the league (ABSOLUTELY SHOCKING) cost £7m and has scored more goals in the PL than the lad you bought to replace your best midfielder for £20m - but that wouldn't be difficult as he's scored precisely NONE in the Premier League.

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  • 122. At 7:05pm on 15 Jul 2009, The_Parkside wrote:

    What jealous nonsense. You can't take it out on us robbo just because your team is useless and playing championship football now. I didn't expect you to write something like this. I've read your blogs for some time now, and whilst I don't appreciate all of them I do generaly like the style in which they are created.
    But I see that you have jumped the jealous bandwagon along with many others. Yes yes, ofcourse "it isn't jealousy. City are ruining football and City are buying their way to success" etc etc etc etc blah blah blah, but the fact is that other teams in the top 4 have been doing the same for years. Fergy did it at Utd when he 1st came for an obvious example. All City have done is up the stakes. And why the hell not!? I don't understand the problem?
    I was always advised that when I am angry about something and feel like writing - write it 3 times. Then sleep on it and read it back the next day and then re-write it. This is good advise so that you don't end up writing something that makes you look like a fool. In this case, a jealous fool ofcourse.
    Must do better robbo. Really.

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  • 123. At 7:07pm on 15 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    Ask Robbo about how much his club shovelled into the team.

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  • 124. At 7:13pm on 15 Jul 2009, GazUtd wrote:


    But you have to admit, you've lost 30 goals and haven't replaced them.


    =====================================================================

    We may not have replaced them in one player but we may well have replaced them in the fact that we will play differently allowing others to score and for the first time since Ruud left we have an out and out goal poacher in Owen, and you remember how well Ruud done.

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  • 125. At 7:15pm on 15 Jul 2009, seanpt wrote:

    Man City are ridiculous its like they are upgrading their team without even playing the players they are replacing.
    Its almost like they by good but not amazing players to show the world class players that actually they aren't that bad.

    I think they need to buy more strikers.
    Adebayor, Bellamy, Caceido, Ched Evans, Jo, Robinho, Roque Santa Cruz, Tevez, isnt enough they need to have a full team of strikers. They should buy Christian Vieri, Gerd Muller and Pele.

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  • 126. At 7:18pm on 15 Jul 2009, Torresque wrote:

    I appreciate Xabi Alonso as much as the next Liverpool fan, but he is replaceable. He gets the ball from Masch and either plays the simple pass or a glorious Hollywood one. While his passing will be missed if he goes, we can bring in a player who will run with the ball forward from centre midfield. You get the feeling Xabi could relax as Masch was doing all the running for him. In an ideal world we would keep him, but if £30m is offered we should take it, especially if he wants to leace

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  • 127. At 7:18pm on 15 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    "we have an out and out goal poacher in Owen"

    Oh, come on.

    You're not serious, are you?

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  • 128. At 7:26pm on 15 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    Torresque,

    Have you noticed, the Mancs reckon that their best player for the last decade is eminently replaceable with a man who scored 7 goals in 89 games - and cost at least £16m, yet we are incapable of managing without a midfielder who, it has to be said, doesn't run much and doesn't score many?

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  • 129. At 7:28pm on 15 Jul 2009, Zulu Warrior wrote:

    Hola Robbo
    So you wouldn't see a challenge in doubling your pay by transferring to Sky? After all, I hear you top guys have taken a 20pc cut recently.

    Anyway, the squad building at Citeh is looking a bit lopzsided. They must be collecting strikers. Santa Cruz, Robinho, Bellamy, Adebayor, Vassel, Benjani and Tevez. With Jo alraedy loaned out to Everton! Maybe another way to crash the top 4 is the loan route, taking Citehs mega priced surpluses.
    Who do you think is picking the purchases at City?

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  • 130. At 7:34pm on 15 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    We all know who's NOT picking the purchases at City.

    Hughes is doing himself a massive disservice - and people talk about the money the players are getting; as I touched on earlier, is it not at least as sad that Hughes is hanging about, allowing himself to look a fool, just for the cheque when he inevitably gets the sack?

    The man seems to have no honour.

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  • 131. At 7:36pm on 15 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    As an ex-Manc though, who's surprised - they've all been rubbish and chased the easy money on the back of a misguided reputation.

    People go on about the ex-Liverpool players on MOTD - perhaps if the ex-Mancs knew what the hell they were talking about they wouldn't get sacked after 5 minutes of banality.

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  • 132. At 7:42pm on 15 Jul 2009, rjaggar wrote:

    It is said that Rafa might get some outrageous sum like £30m for Xabi Alonso. Indignation will be pouring out of his chest at that, I'm sure. At that rate, the only Spaniard left at the Club come August will be Torres........whether Maschi and Messi feel like playing Andy Pandy and Looby Loo I can't tell you mate. Ask the boys and girls at Sky, they know what I'm talking about......

    Arsene will splutter in outrage at the thought of reducing his wage liabilities by around £20m and getting another £20m for his misfiring striker. Terrible for the balance sheet, that.......

    It has to be said that seeing Terry go might put CFC somewhere in the right direction toward black numbers in 2010, which Kenyon has talked about for years.........only about another 5 to ditch then.......

    It is said today that your England crock will help to reduce Mr Gibson's debt a tad, which rumour had it is increasing due to sending the army around the world to round up his absent foreign 'stars'......being a fly on the wall at the court-martials would be interesting I fancy........I hope he's not paying them during their absence........

    And we still seem to be in Toon silly season as far as selling the Club is concerned. Either there are 3 firm offers at £100m+ or they all got cold feet when they saw the player contracts........Mr Manager (who is that?) will need to work like Bernie Ecclestone to fashion a team by August.

    And what's happening at Spurs? Has Harry taken up Zen Buddhism this summer? Zokora off to Spain, nothing else. What's happened at Spurs?? No-one want to go, no offers in, or is 'Arry saying 'thumbs up' to last season's squad? Dunno mate. But I fancy watching Theo romping past Patrick old boy.......superhero in his day, but I'd be surprised if his legs were still up for EPL........

    My take: June was for Real and MUFC. July is for the rest. The merry go round is now in full swing.

    Any week now we might feel ready to make some predictions, eh?

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  • 133. At 7:47pm on 15 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    "June was for Real and MUFC"

    The givers and the takers.

    June was the football equivalent of Hampstead Heath at 3 in the morning.

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  • 134. At 7:50pm on 15 Jul 2009, WhitleyBayWonTheVase wrote:

    Robbo - "I think Benzema's wrong to choose Madrid mind"

    That, my son, is nail, head and hit.

    I am baffled at Benzema choosing Madrid over the stability and tuition (proven) to certain super-stardom that he would have got from SAF. In Madrid he'll fade into oblivion. He service won't be the same because they'll have 'its my ball, get off it' Ronaldo wanting to grab all the headlines every match (brilliant he may be, but I swear he gets more ball greedy by the game) and Kaka (must proven it wasn't for the money and that I'm holier than a collander) doing their best to upstage him.

    The team game at United would have suited him much more in my opinion and I think his opting for Real Madrid is the worst news to have hit the Premiership in the closed season. In our top league he'd have been a revelation and thoughts of Ronaldo would have quickly become distant memories.

    Expect to see him at Old Trafford, heavily discounted, in 12 months time.

    Then, expect to see him pick up the World Player of the Year within 2 seasons.

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  • 135. At 7:51pm on 15 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    On a different subject, is there any decent reason why Drogba has had his ban reduced for his idiocy?

    I don't think so, considering the man is a cheating, petulant fool.

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  • 136. At 7:52pm on 15 Jul 2009, FootballMadAmerican wrote:

    It's yet another well funded side splashing out the cash. But, as I've seen other people mention, it all comes down to Mark Hughes and his ability to create a chemistry amongst and between the players. No chemistry, no great advantage.

    Real Madrid has splashed out cash before and not won the biggest prizes (Champions League) lately -- same goes for Chelsea. Ah, yes, Chelsea...a side that splashed out the cash and was on quite a roll, winning the EPL twice and the FA Cup and looked to start grabbing the biggest prizes. But then one Roman Abramovich made his cock-eyed moves which caused Jose Mourinho to leave for Inter Milan. Bad moves Roman. Wreck the chemistry and pay the price.

    So, good luck to Mark Hughes and the boys in blue. We shall see what transpires from August-May. We shall see...

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  • 137. At 7:53pm on 15 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    "The team game at United"

    Pass it to Ronaldo, and hope he scores or one of their misfiring, ridiculously priced so-called strikers can put it away?

    Great team game, that - but it's gone anyway.

    That's why he wasn't interested.

    That, and their manager is a doddering old fool.

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  • 138. At 7:54pm on 15 Jul 2009, GazUtd wrote:


    Where is this Whitley Bay place?

    I think I will have to visit for some sensible conversation.

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  • 139. At 7:57pm on 15 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    Tuck your lip back in.

    You're only bitter because you're not allowed to go to Holland next weekend.

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  • 140. At 8:02pm on 15 Jul 2009, WhitleyBayWonTheVase wrote:

    Whitley Bay is the stag party capital of the UK (offically too, ya know) and is a haven of tranquility just north of the City where the barcodes dream of Divison 1 football next year.

    It is always sunny, never below 25 degrees, has women to die for, the men (including I) are all retired chippendales and everyone has at least a spare million in their back pocket at all times.

    If you think that is optimistic, you should go back up the thread and look for the person who said Man City will win the league this year. My claims are nowt compared to that.

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  • 141. At 8:04pm on 15 Jul 2009, ShinyDavidHowell wrote:

    Doesn't matter whether United being a selling club this summer was forced upon Ferguson by the Glazers or not - it makes sense for them on every level because the money being transferred at the moment really is 'batpoop insane' as someone put it earlier (and, yes, they are making tens of millions in losses every year once accumulative debt is accounted for, and seeing as that debt is entirely down to the Glazer takeover structure I doubt it's them constraining Ferguson unless they've seriously learned the lessons of 2008!).

    I hoped and expected the football cash bubble to pop soon after the housing and banking bubble. Instead, it's inflated even further. The collapse of this bubble is going to go down in history as one of the defining moments in British football history, and it really does have to happen...

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  • 142. At 8:10pm on 15 Jul 2009, Robokopthe3rd wrote:

    The situation at Man City is not a precedent. There have been clubs before who have tried to buy success (and succeeded). Man Utd were the first club to buy the league title. Liverpool had been successful without spending the most money on players, or giving them the highest wages. I believe the first million pound player was Trevor Francis (I could be wrong) ,as he went from Brum to Forest. That was in the 70s. Liverpool didn`t spend a million on a player until the late 80s or early 90s. So Man Utd spent and spent...Bryan Robson, Brian Mclair, Jesper Olsen, Gordon Strachan...still no title. Then it was Bruce and Schmeichel and Cantona et al, millions, and then the title came, after 26 years. Then it was Blackburn, under Dalglish and Jack Walker who bought A title. Shearer and Sutton were the most famous of their buys. Then much later, along came Roman to Chelsea (he almost bid for Liverpool, but chelsea qualified for the champs league, so he bought them). John Terry is the only home grown lad. They didn`t just try to buy the title, but also the champs league (still no success there). And now Man City are trying to buy the title. Will they succeed?...I hope not, but they probably will. Not this season, but maybe in 2 or 3, once they have had regular champs league footy. Of course my team, Liverpool, are in a way trying to buy the title. But they have been a team that has consistently been challenging for honours over the last 4 or 5 decades (even in the bad years in the 90s we were in the odd cup final. Nothing great by any means, but not a mid table or up and down team.) Even Man Utd in Fergies first few years were a mid table team. Chelsea have been up and down the divisions, Man City too. Arsenal have never tried to buy the title a la Chelsea or the Manchester teams or Blackburn. Leeds and Newcastle are two teams who had tried but are in varying degrees of now being in lower divisions, where there big spending and/or wages have or will be a rod for their own backs. It`s only if you consistently spend millions of have a billinaire owner that a `new` title winning team can be produced.

    YNWA

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  • 143. At 8:14pm on 15 Jul 2009, ControlledMagic wrote:

    Sam Red Galactico

    I'll agree that there may not be the consistency of quality coming out ofUnited's youth system as was seen in the Beckham / Scholes / Nevilles / Butt / Giggs era, but if you hve a look at the league (Prem, Championship, Leagues) I can readily point out that there are products of our youth system all over it - so many teams are benefiting from the fact that these kids have been deemed (sometimes mistakenly) as 'not making the grade.

    I've gone back a fair while with this list. I'm fine in admitting that I have no idea if some of them are playing anywhere at all now - but many of them are:

    Lee Martin
    Fraizer Campbell
    Ritchie Jones
    Chris Eagles
    Michael Lea
    Kieran Lee
    Phil Bardsley
    Ryan Shawcross
    Adam Eckersley
    Phil Marsh
    Daniel Rose
    Giuseppe Rossi
    Kieran Richardson
    David Jones
    Paul McShane
    Luke Steele
    Sylvain Ebanks-Blake
    Eddie Johnson
    Jonathan Spector
    Tommy Lee
    Phil Picken
    Colin Heath
    Neil Wood
    David Fox
    Phil Neville
    Michael Stewart
    Paul Tierney
    Daniel Nardiello
    Steven Hogg
    David Poole
    Bojan Djordjic
    Luke Chadwick
    Nicky Butt
    Mark Lynch
    Luke Daniels
    Ben Williams
    Danny Pugh
    Matt Williams
    Alan Tate
    Danny Webber
    David Beckham
    John Rankin
    Lee Roche
    Kirk Hilton
    Ben Muirhead
    Andy Taylor
    Nick Culkin
    Ronnie Wallwork
    Paul Rachubka
    Michael Clegg
    Michael Twiss
    George Clegg
    Jonathan Greening
    Mark Wilson
    Stephen Cosgrove
    Michael Rose
    Josh Walker
    Marc Whiteman
    Ashley Dodd
    Rhodri Jones
    David Healy
    Alex Notman
    Steve Rose
    Danny Higginbotham


    There may be a few in there that I've missed in terms of 'Utd bought them' - eg Rossi - but that doesn't mean we've contributed nothing to their development. One of them - thought a gem by Keane - died.

    Not making the grade at OT is not necessarily a shame on them....it has high standards.

    All that aside, if Hargreaves doesn't make it back we need someone to do the enforcing - Fletcher can but not week in, week out. And those that are criticising Anderson - the kid's only 20! He could yet be dynamite and I, personally, (if you don't like 'in my opinion') think he's shown enough already to maintain some belief in him.

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  • 144. At 8:21pm on 15 Jul 2009, Spitfire wrote:

    Robbo you scoundrel! you have gone on and followed where the money (comments) is and given up! You have done exactly the same thing you so deplore and gone for more when what you had was good.

    You have left those who supported you through thick and thin and defended your indiscretions since I dont remember when and when the moment comes, you crumble. This lot could wait. There is no danger of gunners not moaning about how good their team potentially is, nor Chelskis insisting their success wasnt bought. Did you think the Kop will soon admit the Spanish waiter isn't the genius they make him be or SAF being hailed as the sweetest bloke south of North Pole?

    Where do you get the balls to write about some posers when the biggest news broke.

    Sir Flintstone retires from tests and no one cares.

    Blasphemy!

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  • 145. At 8:25pm on 15 Jul 2009, feorhsweng wrote:

    As a city fan I am just sitting back and enjoying the ride!
    A bit of silverware in the process would be nice.

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  • 146. At 8:26pm on 15 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    Lee Martin
    Fraizer Campbell
    Ritchie Jones
    Chris Eagles
    Michael Lea
    Kieran Lee
    Phil Bardsley
    Ryan Shawcross
    Adam Eckersley
    Phil Marsh
    Daniel Rose
    Giuseppe Rossi
    Kieran Richardson
    David Jones
    Paul McShane
    Luke Steele
    Sylvain Ebanks-Blake
    Eddie Johnson
    Jonathan Spector
    Tommy Lee
    Phil Picken
    Colin Heath
    Neil Wood
    David Fox
    Phil Neville
    Michael Stewart
    Paul Tierney
    Daniel Nardiello
    Steven Hogg
    David Poole
    Bojan Djordjic
    Luke Chadwick
    Nicky Butt
    Mark Lynch
    Luke Daniels
    Ben Williams
    Danny Pugh
    Matt Williams
    Alan Tate
    Danny Webber
    David Beckham
    John Rankin
    Lee Roche
    Kirk Hilton
    Ben Muirhead
    Andy Taylor
    Nick Culkin
    Ronnie Wallwork
    Paul Rachubka
    Michael Clegg
    Michael Twiss
    George Clegg
    Jonathan Greening
    Mark Wilson
    Stephen Cosgrove
    Michael Rose
    Josh Walker
    Marc Whiteman
    Ashley Dodd
    Rhodri Jones
    David Healy
    Alex Notman
    Steve Rose
    Danny Higginbotham

    All of them legends.

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  • 147. At 8:30pm on 15 Jul 2009, ControlledMagic wrote:

    Read and digest Sam, I didn't say they were legends. If they were bloody legends they wouldn't have been sold / given free transfers. What I say is that they are plying their trade all over the leagues. Do you think everything that comes out of a mine is a diamond? I doubt the 1992 FA Youth cup team will ever be repeated.

    Reminds me - Robbie Savage as well.

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  • 148. At 8:33pm on 15 Jul 2009, Dazz wrote:

    Its rather unintelligent and immature to conclude that pundits don't know what they're talking about just because of the club they played for!

    I know you Mancs and Scousers hate each other but please lets make intelligent or at the very least mature arguments.

    Lets keep the standards high. We dont want morons on this forum

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  • 149. At 8:35pm on 15 Jul 2009, GazUtd wrote:


    Is this what not winning the league for 20 years does to some people?

    Admittedly I was only around for the last 19 of our 26 year wait but I certaintly don't remember everyone having completely lost the plot and consumed by rage.

    Also I can't believe I've spent so much time in Newcastle in search of intelligent conversation when all I had to do was go up the road to Whitley Bay where I could have discussed the pros and cons of neuro-physiological symbiotics.

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  • 150. At 8:36pm on 15 Jul 2009, GazUtd wrote:


    We dont want morons on this forum

    =================================


    It's the internet, their preferred habitat.

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  • 151. At 8:51pm on 15 Jul 2009, Pasinho wrote:

    84. At 5:33pm on 15 Jul 2009, cloggysaint wrote:
    I wish footballers would just come out and say they've moved because they were offered more money. I've changed jobs many times to earn more money and I never felt bad about it

    -----------------------------------

    Good point. Yet, I bet you never kissed the logo of the company you work for, certainly not in front of tens of thousands of people (who adore that company), claiming to love it with passion and promising loyalty. If you did, and still used your perfectly legitimate right to change jobs for more money, those past claims of love and loyalty would sound hollow. Nothing wrong about wanting to earn more as such. So I share your wish that players should be more honest about their motives for changing clubs and stop the non-sense talk about fresh challenges etc. There should also be an automatic yellow card for (dishonestly) kissing your badge.

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  • 152. At 9:02pm on 15 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    ControlledMagic,

    Anybody can make a list of players that have gone on to other clubs and had a less-than distinguished career, but a career nonetheless.

    I don't see your point.

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  • 153. At 9:05pm on 15 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    Are you saying that more ex-Man Utd players have gone on to have a crap career?

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  • 154. At 9:23pm on 15 Jul 2009, used2beprofi wrote:

    hey- his grandmum knitted that!! don't be so tough on gandmum's hard work...

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  • 155. At 9:41pm on 15 Jul 2009, OldManuFan wrote:

    "Are you saying that more ex-Man Utd players have gone on to have a crap career?"

    Oops, I'm sorry I started this discussion, but the point I was making is that it isn't buying expensive big name players that is a problem, but neglecting your player development - essentially relying on someone else to do train kids so that you can buy them.

    This is one way of "spreading the wealth" I guess, but that only works if the clubs that do the player development actually get a slice of the transfer fees.

    Now I'm not trying to say that ManU haven't spent seriously large sums of money inthe past and will certainly do so again, but I can't think of any time inthe past 40+ years when there weren't some home grown players in the mix.

    And thinking back to those years when Liverpool were so dominant (and being a ManU supporter was like being a 'Boro supporter now - chin-up Robbo, you'll get back), there were scousers in the team.

    My question, will we see another Giggs, Scholes, Carragher (or Gerrard), i.e. superstars, playing all their career in one club? If John Terry does go to City for the money, I think it will be the end of an era.

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  • 156. At 9:47pm on 15 Jul 2009, herebei wrote:

    BBC - please give SAM_RED_GALACTICO his own blog, where he can post his pro-Liverpool, anti BBC comments and display his obsessional hatred for everything to do with Manchester United.


    And where we can all ignore him.

    Thanks

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  • 157. At 9:52pm on 15 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    If you have a blog on the BBC, nobody ignores you, no matter how inane you are.

    And by God, can I be inane.

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  • 158. At 9:53pm on 15 Jul 2009, herebei wrote:

    Fair comment, Sam.

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  • 159. At 9:54pm on 15 Jul 2009, herebei wrote:

    For once.

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  • 160. At 9:57pm on 15 Jul 2009, Big Man wrote:

    ^^^ LOL, he does seem to be venting his bitterness on this thread.

    Anyway, good blog Robbo. Of course my Blackburn have been in City's shoes once, and although it worked at first it sadly went downhill quite rapidly. Still here though, hope your Boro have got what it takes to come back.

    There's no guarantee on how a team will perform when backed by so much money - there have been plenty of times where money hasn't worked, it's more than that. A good manager is needed for one thing, so this will be the ultimate test for Mark Hughes. But I see him becoming one of the first PL sackings this season to be honest. I reckon City will finish in 6th, and you could give them a punt in one of the cup competitions. But it's too early to talk about being champions.

    We shall wait and see!

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  • 161. At 10:09pm on 15 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    And just to put the record straight, it's not "obsessional hatred for everything to do with Manchester United" or "bitterness" - it's plain annoyance that this 'blogger', who hides behind a ridiculous facade, and the chief football writer for the BBC football website time and time again display an obvious bias toward Man Utd.

    Take this 'blog' for example - it's all well and good having a pop at a side for spending money, but which club has smashed more spending records in this country than any other?

    £30m for a teenager.

    £30m for a defender.

    £32m for a layabout, for God's sake.

    £40m for a pair of comedians that were supposed to replace two of the best players this country's seen for decades yet can't score half a dozen league goals between them in two years.

    Come on.

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  • 162. At 10:13pm on 15 Jul 2009, paul hewson wrote:

    I am off to put a tenner on city to win the league tomorrow.
    Shame I wont be around to spend the winning with my 3,007 City mates as my sides will have split by then due to all the laughter.

    MASSIVE....

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  • 163. At 10:18pm on 15 Jul 2009, conciliation wrote:

    Like the (Method) Man said, C.R.E.A.M.

    and footie's no different, at least for the summer. City won't be able to break past moderate-spending Moyes and slightly more affluent O'Neil, let alone Wenger. Real's millions will buy 'em the Champions League Final though, and probably take out some of the Premier League contingent on the way, only to be over-awed by the little Catalans at the last.

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  • 164. At 10:23pm on 15 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    Let's be honest.

    Even with all of Man City's new-found wealth, their massive recruitment drive and the shockwaves that they and Real Madrid have sent through football, only one thing is guaranteed.

    Chelsea won't win the Champions League.

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  • 165. At 11:14pm on 15 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    And what's with the French bloke?

    http://yfrog.com/6w46051611utdplayersj

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  • 166. At 11:53pm on 15 Jul 2009, unseenforces wrote:

    Man City are ruining the market...Man City are going in for any big name player available and with big players comes big ego and Hughes is definitely not a Fergie/Wenger/Mourinho who can manage them effectively....Rijkaard had hard time managing the big egos at Barcelona so Im pretty confident that Hughes is not capable at all. Hughes has got no power whatsoever, i mean, comeon...how many strikers do u want? tighten up your defense and add a few midfielders....Hughes will surely get the sack by Christmas, if not I will eat my hat....Cook is an idiot who needs to be sacked....Man City will be a force to reckon with but it will take up a minimum of 2 to 3 years, and Hughes wont be there when the club improves...I reckon they will offer Mourinho some obscene amount and lure him to the eastlands....

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  • 167. At 01:10am on 16 Jul 2009, szoptimusprime wrote:

    Re: "giving back"
    The Man Utd defender Wes Brown personally funds & supports a youth club in the area he grew up. Some of the other Man Utd players assist, Scholes & Rio are regular visitors I understand. I've read that Lampard does the same in East London somewhere. Not all footballers are plonkers, maybe some just like to keep their good deeds off the radar!

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  • 168. At 01:26am on 16 Jul 2009, invinciblegooners wrote:

    Once again nice blog robbo....

    c. The (previous) club didn't do enough to keep me. (That's my personal favorite)

    that's also my favorite. Wenger have done good thing in selling Adebayor off instead of being having to see his sulking face for one more season.
    I don't think Mark Huges can manage all these players with big egos. He will be the first manager to be fired this season. Anyone with different opinion??? What Man City needs is a good manager, not just quality players

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  • 169. At 01:34am on 16 Jul 2009, freddawlanen wrote:

    Someone mentioned the trouble Arsenal would be in if they fail to reach the top 4, if Utd or Liverpool fail to get into the CL, it is almost inevitable that they would have to have a fire sale.
    The profit Utd made on Ronaldo will only just cover their debt for this season, one bad year and disaster strikes, the banks will NOT give these clubs another chance.

    Spending money you have (City + Chelsea) is not a problem, living beyond your means is and it's a pity Real aren't English, if they were, UEFA would not allow them such an unfair advantage in the transfer market, knowing that they will be bailed out, no matter how much money they lose, reminds me of certain banks.

    As for City though, good for them, I feel sorry for Sparky though, as I doubt that he'd have even considered some of the players his bosses have bought for their club. Maybe we'll see a truly great manager appear this season, leading a mish-mash of players to glory, but I doubt it.

    I just hope it doesn't all end in tears for City fans as they've shed more than their fair share over the years :P

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  • 170. At 01:41am on 16 Jul 2009, Mel0dymaker wrote:

    I'm looking forward to next season. Madrid and City have both got possibly bad managers for big egos. However what if city pull it off. Less games is a great advantage for a team maybe less of a challenge overall but with the size of the squad it could work. When all the teams in europe start to become fatigued Man City will be ok. Risky ploy it will take a madman or a genius.

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  • 171. At 06:39am on 16 Jul 2009, lord_crab wrote:

    # 2.
    Of course Johnson will be 'basically playing on the wing', let's face it... he can't defend. That's probably why he cost 16 mil as well, like buying a winger.

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  • 172. At 06:47am on 16 Jul 2009, lord_crab wrote:

    Also, in fairness to Mark Hughes, he's proved that since becoming a manager he has enough quality for this job. I don't think he's done a single bad job as of yet.

    To # 166 i think it was, i'm quite confident it wasn't Hughes decision entirely to buy every striker under the sun. It would seem rather sensible for them to invest in a quality goalkeeper and be rid of Hart who is fringe at best. Someone like Kameni from Espanyol perhaps. I hear he's been wanting to go to a better club for a while.

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  • 173. At 07:26am on 16 Jul 2009, bellsouth wrote:

    Where to start...

    1. Yes the amounts are silly (fees and wages) but did City start this? No its been like this for a long time. People forget very quickly who has been leading the spending spree for the last 10 years.
    2. How should any club outside the top 4 break in to that elitist group without spending money? Take Everton, good manager been left to do his thing for a long time and what they've managed to get into the top 4 once and then nearly got relegated after that. If you want to actually challenge the established order year in year out, there is no other way than to spend and why is that, because the top 4 have had financial dominancy for years.
    3. If anyone above actually watched City last year you'll know that sticking the ball in the net was one of our biggest problems so yes a new strikeforce was needed and how do you this, you buy what you need first then ship out what you don't need later, so no we will not start the season with 8 strikers!
    4. Defence, as far as I am aware the transfer window is still open! Obviously we need to strengthen this area and the club are clearly on the case as is plainly obvious from the rumours/gossip about Terry and Lescott
    5. To all those moaning I wonder how many of you will be watching City on Sky/BBC this season, thought so.

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  • 174. At 08:15am on 16 Jul 2009, idyson wrote:

    I totally agree with the sentiments above. The one thing I cannot get my head around is that a company get £25 Million of the deal.Transfers are real if the money is kept in football but when its distributed around individuals then it seems it worth a players time to just hang around till is contracts up and sell his soul to anybody.

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  • 175. At 08:54am on 16 Jul 2009, SS11 wrote:

    Man City spending millions... But will it count on the playing field. The answer is NO. There will be too much of instability. Robinho and Elano already showed signs of it last year when they had been away on international duty. They played brilliant for Brazil, but lacked same committment in blue jersey. When Real built Galacticos Era Part I, there was tremenduous respect between players Zidane, Figo, Ronaldo, Carlos and Becks. They played for each other, they played together as a team.
    In case of Man City, i guess bubble could burst any time on the pitch!!!

    For me its the same Top 4 this season.

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  • 176. At 08:55am on 16 Jul 2009, MangoreUnited wrote:

    "Eastlands will have to do with solarsystemicos instead."

    Classic Robbo, classic. City are an interesting prospect for a top 4 tilt this year, or certainly next year. The Prem is no longer the place to be though, with Spain once more the superstar's destination of choice. City have an advantage over their English colleagues though because of their mountains of case.

    John Terry will sign for Man City this summer and will enjoy the new 'challenge' of how to spend £200k a week. Chelsea would be mad to turn down any offer over £15m for him, he's not the player he is made out to be - bravery and commitment do not a great defender make!!

    Sparky would be safer signing Carvalho and trying to get Mich Richards to remember how to tackle, don't know what was wrong with him last season!!

    Adebayor is a terrible signing, prima-donna and over-rated.

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  • 177. At 09:01am on 16 Jul 2009, Dw Seven Gwatew - Do The Hodge-Podge wrote:

    Obviously, City fans aren't going to complain about suddenly being able to compete for nearly every player in the world and they've put up with a lot of grief and seem to get somewhat defensive when asked about the subject of transfers, but do their fans think that by aiming so high so quickly, maybe they're attracting the wrong sort of player?

    Whilst they may be sick of people saying it, it's fairly obvious that if a sought-after player like Tevez chooses City over the clubs that were being linked with him, it's obvious that money is a big factor in his decision. Adebayor is another who showed his true colours last season with his disgraceful courting of Milan, and Eto'o was also linked - it can't be coincidence that Eto'o was considering leaving the treble-winning Spanish champions for City whilst the Barca president commented on a "stratospheric" offer ffrom City to both the club and the player.

    And now there's John Terry, who is rumoured to have a clause in his contract that keeps him as Chelsea's highest earner. "Mr. Chelsea" has been decidedly quiet about City's public interest - and since Chelsea are supposedly the club he'd readily step in front of a train for, it also says something about what he's interested in since he's obviously either had his head turned by City's mega-bucks, or is using their interest to get yet more cash out of Chelsea.

    It may be the same old rhetoric in the eyes of City fans, but it's true: with City finishing 10th in the Premier League but being the richest club in the world, there's only a certain type of player they can lure. I feel that if they built in a slower fashion, they'd be better off long-term, with fewer mercenaries flocking towards them. Top-notch pros like Torres, Gerrard, and Lampard all earn maga-bucks too, but can you see them, in the prime of their careers, leaving their clubs to go to a team that finished tenth just because of money? No, you can't. But Adebayor, who openly courted AC Milan even after Arsene Wenger plucked him from nowhere and made him a star, Carlos Tevez, who has lied through his teeth since leaving United (even stating that he wouldn't go to Liverpool because he respects United fans!!!) and Samuel Eto'o - who, before Guardiola took over at Barcelona, looked like he was leaving and announced that he would play for the club "that paid best" - most certainly would.


    Exciting times at City with all these big name stars heading their way, but City fans would be daft to stick their collective head in the sand and continue believing and recycling these players' tired offerings of "I'm here because City are going places".

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  • 178. At 09:08am on 16 Jul 2009, 78sum wrote:

    I have to say that I actually agree with the new challenges sentiment.

    Here's my example of why:
    If a player moves to Man U, he'll be just another player to win another trophy. If that same player moves to a club that hasn't won the title in decades or ever, he'll be a hero and remembered forever by those fans.

    There are exceptions to this, great players with great personalities who will always be remembered by the big teams. But these fellas are few and far between.

    If I had the talent, I'd much rather win the league with a team that wasn't expected to always win. I bet David was pretty stoked when he took down Goliath. If Goliath had won, the story would have been rubbish, much like the premier league now. Imagine how Rooney would have been idolised if he'd led Everton to a league title. He'd probably be added to the bible.

    You've got to love what Maradona achieved at Napoli. Ronaldo may have had the ability to do such a great feat, but now the guy has gone to a club that would have had a damn good chance of winning anyway.

    I hope some of you will get my point.

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  • 179. At 09:22am on 16 Jul 2009, Monjo wrote:

    Manchester City was bought by the City State of Abu Dhabi to be an advertising conduit for Abu Dhabi. The Premier League is the most watched football league in the world and if Man City play nice attacking football they are bound to be shown slightly more than most other teams (bar Arsenal, Manchester United and Liverpool - possibly Chelsea) this season.

    Let's assume Abu Dhabi was prepared to pay £100 mil a year to advertise Etihad, then this would be the basis for their spending at City.

    Someone mentioned City's wages. Adebayor will cost about £10million a year alone. City spent just over 50million last year on wages. This season it will be over 100million. They will probably overtake Manchester United's wages per week by next summer and catch Chelsea within three years.

    The fact that Adebayor will earn as much a week as the entire Burnley squad should be a serious worry to the long-term state of our national game.

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  • 180. At 09:34am on 16 Jul 2009, Vincent_Mustique wrote:

    Robbo,

    I see from the photo in your article that Man City will be playing next season with "Etihad" on their shirts next season. The funny thing is that "Etihad" is Arabic for "United". Seriously. Now what do you think of that?

    Vincent

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  • 181. At 10:20am on 16 Jul 2009, superhands279 wrote:

    When the bubble busts and inevitably it will, the modest spending and well run clubs who spend within their means and have average wage bills that relate to their income will hopefully take over from the 'big 4'

    If this happens, perhaps Everton, Villa, Fulham and the like will take their well balanced squads to the very top whilst the big spenders fold and fade into the mist.

    I love the way my club (Everton) is run and although I would be a liar to say that being in a position to buy every good player in the world wouldn't be exciting and very appealing, I want my club to be prudent and spend wisely adding 1 great player per year and unerathing gems from around the world for small transfer fees

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  • 182. At 10:22am on 16 Jul 2009, George Rule wrote:

    The premier league as we know it now will be gone in 5 to 10 years, most of the clubs reduced to Wimbledon Nomads status. You would imagine that the boffins at the top of the EPL heirachy might wish to do something about it, but they won't. Why won't they?

    Because, rather like the class 0f '09 politicians at westminster, they are after settling their own futures ahead of the greater good. If they can seal their 35million pension pots and future "jobs for the boys" prospects they really don't give a monkeys about somebody else's future.

    Instead of clamping down on these excesses that will lead to eventual doom, they will encourage the swash of money to keep rolling around all the while taking their huge cut. When it all goes pear shaped in a few years due to a virtual pyramid scheme, the boys at the top will disappear with their gold-plated pensions and be "something in the city".

    This might be a good thing and bring football back down to reality, £250,000 a week wages for anyone, let alone a leather chaser, is more than obscene. But nothing will happen whilst the profits are being creamed off. For Northern Rock read any number of clubs in 5 years time.

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  • 183. At 10:26am on 16 Jul 2009, extant wrote:

    So, Robbo.

    If you were headhunted/approached by another media/news company, to write a blog or two each week for double your current salary, would you turn it down?
    Would you cite "loyalty" to the BBC? And when your next contract renewal came up, would you ask for less? Of course not.

    MC seem to have (like Blackburn in the 90's) the financial backing to challenge for the title.

    I read somewhere, that in 1905 when the first £1000 transfer went through (Alf Common - Sunderland to Borough.....so your team started it : ), there was general condemnation and uproar, that football was "selling it's soul" and the money involved was ludicrous.......not much has changed in a 100 years....although people generally see the past through very rosey lens..

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  • 184. At 10:27am on 16 Jul 2009, chanachevhu wrote:

    "Where's the challenge in going to a club you don't give a damn about when the one you've worked for all your life is still reeling from you wearing slippers in a penalty shoot-out?"

    hahahahaha, ROBBBBOOOOOO at his best,
    am loving it, just can't wait the kickoff...

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  • 185. At 10:30am on 16 Jul 2009, Zidanepirouette wrote:

    Is this the 'Sam Red Galactico' blog now?

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  • 186. At 10:34am on 16 Jul 2009, beavis101 wrote:

    Great Blog again Robbo,
    Being a Manchester City of 35 years all the developments at Eastlands over the past 12months have been incredible to say the least. Most blues think they are going to wake up to find it's just been a dream. Really were in the old division 2 and Tony Cunningham has just spooned one over the bar from zero yards.
    Anyway back to the present, i am most worried about Mark Hughes tactics rather that the personnel brought into the club. Most of last season we played one up front, so now having so many centre forwards it's going to be very difficult to keep everybody happy. The back line needs some attention we need a left footed centre back and a right back unless we can Micah Richards back to his best( he played like he had swine flu most of last season).
    What ever happens this season it will be fun and games has always at Eastlands. Come on you Citizens.

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  • 187. At 10:44am on 16 Jul 2009, Zootmac wrote:

    ref 185 Y2J

    Sam retired last night at 11.14, after an eight hour shift, suffering from repetitive blog syndrome

    Still haven't seen Ian Poulter's trousrs.

    Freddie's playing. His trousers are white.

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  • 188. At 10:53am on 16 Jul 2009, brokenbroadcast wrote:

    no 146.

    josh walker the boro player???

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  • 189. At 10:53am on 16 Jul 2009, Zidanepirouette wrote:

    re. 187

    But no Harmison, not sure about that.

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  • 190. At 10:55am on 16 Jul 2009, Nick wrote:

    I dont think anybodies mentioned it yet on here (if they have i apologize) BUT Tevez,Santa Cruz , Barry et al are not joining because its "Manchester City" They are joining because its the PL club owned by the rich arabs.
    If the rich arabs had bought say Spurs all those players would be playing there instead. Its that simple. So what does that say? Yes you've guessed it, they chased the money.
    When Carlos said United didnt try hard enough he didnt mean they didnt say pretty please enough times he meant the pay cheque wasnt to his liking.

    As a United fan i havent got a problem with Citys spending power (they havent outbid us for any players) in fact it adds even more spice to the derby matches. I just dont think they will do a Chelsea and have instant success. Even with Roman still at the helm United have managed to win 3 on the spin with a squad that is poor judging by the comments on here. Which brings to me final (off topic i admit) point - You Citeh,Chelsea,Liverpool fans cant have it both ways you know, if our sqaud is poor that makes SAF one helluva of a manager and if it isnt poor why keep slating it.We keep hearing how fantastic Liverpools set up is yet thats 3 trophyless years (something that has never happened at United during SAFs reign) so that makes Rafa a poor manager doesnt it? Only asking

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  • 191. At 10:55am on 16 Jul 2009, WhitleyBayWonTheVase wrote:

    To the person who said that surely players didn't want any more money because it would be physically impossible to spend £200k per week.

    You questioned that there is only so much money one can spend?

    Come back when you're married and tell us what you think then.

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  • 192. At 10:57am on 16 Jul 2009, Spitfire wrote:

    RE 180:

    Etihad means Unity, not United as you state.

    Arabic for United is Mut'ahid.

    While we are at it, Emirates means 'many Riches' among other similar meanings. That is what you call irony.

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  • 193. At 11:08am on 16 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    "We keep hearing how fantastic Liverpools set up is yet thats 3 trophyless years (something that has never happened at United during SAFs reign)"

    I think you'll want to check on that.

    By the way, I've retired from Test blogging but am still available for one-dayers and 20/20.

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  • 194. At 11:11am on 16 Jul 2009, oncearedalways54 wrote:

    Sorry Robbo a bit disappointed in this blog -titled 'Cash n Grab'? You have earned your money easily this week then?

    So Man City is the latest club to have found someone with money to lash out on their Club, so what, good luck to them, let them buy all the players they want, doubt it will make much difference. It will not 'ruin the game', etc. etc. as many others have bleated about, because if recent club history is anything to go by (and as others have already observed) there is a more than an even chance City will 'mess up' on the 'project' somewhere along the line - they can't help it!

    Being a regular member of the top 4 in the Premiership requires a 'footballing pedigree' such as enjoyed by Man Utd, Liverpool and Arsenal, (count the trophies amongst that lot) and lately by Chelsea. City have a long way to go to catch up - but as they say, "every journey of a thousand miles, starts with the first step!"
    And as every budding manager should know, you start with the 'spine' of the team, Goalkeeper, Centre backs, Lead Striker - not sure Mark Hughes got this right as yet!!

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  • 195. At 11:27am on 16 Jul 2009, funnyvivalarasa wrote:

    193. At 11:08am on 16 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    "We keep hearing how fantastic Liverpools set up is yet thats 3 trophyless years (something that has never happened at United during SAFs reign)"

    I think you'll want to check on that.
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    united haven't gone 3 trophyless years since ferguson took charge so please shut up,and why are you having a go at united when this is a blog about city.

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  • 196. At 11:29am on 16 Jul 2009, papperoo wrote:

    To quote 194:

    "And as every budding manager should know, you start with the 'spine' of the team, Goalkeeper, Centre backs, Lead Striker - not sure Mark Hughes got this right as yet!!"

    I walk Sparky's dog every Tuesday and Thursday evening, and she told me he plans to put Tevez at centre-back, Bellamy at Left-back, Santa Claus on the wing, Bojinov in goal and Robinho as a lone striker.

    Cos who really needs proper defenders, midfielders or keepers anyway? Nobody wins titles with them do they...?

    Fair enough, you could argue Given was a good signing, but by the time the team is gelling in 1-3 years time, he'll be old, past-it and plying his trade with Leeds Utd in League 2...

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  • 197. At 11:37am on 16 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    "united haven't gone 3 trophyless years since ferguson took charge so please shut up"

    Ferguson took over in 1986.

    First trophy was FA Cup, 1990.

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  • 198. At 11:40am on 16 Jul 2009, showUsYerHands wrote:

    Man City won't get anywhere unless they sign a whole new back 4.

    Richards, Dunne, Onueha and Bridge are all donkeys. Especially the overrated cart-horse Richards.

    If he was in Italy or Spain, he wouldn't even get on the pitch.

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  • 199. At 12:07pm on 16 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    How embarrassing that they don't know their own club's history - but then, who's in the least bit surprised?

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  • 200. At 12:08pm on 16 Jul 2009, Nearly_Dr_Lee wrote:

    Earlier on the the blog someone asked how all these players were going to fit into a system, well here's my theory.

    Adebeyor/santa cruz
    Tevez/bellamy
    robinho/elano wright-philips/Ireland
    Barry/De Jong Kompany/Zabletta
    Bridge unknown unknown Richards/Onueha
    Given


    4-2-3-1
    One out and out striker with three players behind him, two strong defensive midfielders to get the ball, Bridge is pretty decent as a left back, Richards was good as a right back if someone can sort him out and Given is a top class keeper. City just need to get a couple of decent centre backs, or hope that the midfield doesn't give the ball away, ever.
    Stick Lescott in there though and I'm sure one of Dunne, onueha or kompany would be good enough for the time being. It's pretty obvious that the forward line has a good starting player and decent backup, with most of the players versatile enough to play in more than one position.

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  • 201. At 12:20pm on 16 Jul 2009, RedBlueArmy92 wrote:

    SAM RED GALACTICO!!!!!!

    Phill Mcnulty's new blog is up and he hasn't mentioned Utd or Liverpool... The bounder, snubbing Rafa like that! What a cheek, oh and notice that way he hasn't mentioned SAF! Makes your blood boil!

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  • 202. At 12:20pm on 16 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    Why don't City put in bids for Vidic and Ferdinand?

    Seems everyone's up for grabs over there, considering the £80m's been stuffed in the bank under the pretence of prices being too high.

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  • 203. At 12:26pm on 16 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    RedBlue,

    Looks like he's learning.

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  • 204. At 12:31pm on 16 Jul 2009, peterstrangelfc wrote:

    197. At 11:37am on 16 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:
    "united haven't gone 3 trophyless years since ferguson took charge so please shut up"

    Ferguson took over in 1986.

    First trophy was FA Cup, 1990.

    ---------------------------------------------------

    Dont you realise that for most man utd fans football didn't exist until the premiership. So anything that happened before doesn't count....

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  • 205. At 12:40pm on 16 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    It's always fun to point it out though, isn't it.

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  • 206. At 12:41pm on 16 Jul 2009, scottsewell wrote:

    In my opinion, I think Everton will finish 5th again this season and I can honestly see Villa finishing ahead of City as well. The reason is Villa and Everton are good footballing teams, don't get me wrong neither are City, but I think a few of City's players will start to get frustrated about not playing regularly and friction will start to occur amongst the players and disrupt the rest of the team. My top 6 are, in order:

    Man Utd
    Chelsea
    Liverpool
    Arsenal
    Everton
    Villa with
    Man City in 7th

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  • 207. At 1:18pm on 16 Jul 2009, Robbo Robson wrote:

    Is this SamGalactico fella the Pool fan who spent last season under the moniker of RedSam_ThisYearHonest! Whiever that was was a right hostage to fortune. I'm thinking of changing my blog name to PremiershipHereWeCome! Then again...

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  • 208. At 1:23pm on 16 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    Hurrah! You've woken up!

    I think you'll find that was dry wit, mate.

    Not that anyone would expect a construct of the BBC to realise that...

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  • 209. At 1:27pm on 16 Jul 2009, Nick wrote:

    Sam_Red_Galactico.

    SAF took over in Nov 86 after Big Ron had lead us gloriously into the relegation zone.
    In 87/88, 88/89 we won nothing but in 89/90 we won the FA Cup. So thats 2 seasons when SAF started the season.
    Next you'll be telling me it was Shearers fault that Newcastle got relegated and it was Benitezs side that won the Champions League!

    Some may like to count the remnants of the 86/87 season so fair dos, i dont. To put it differently SAF took 5 seasons to change relegation threatened to league contenders. Benitez took 2 seasons to go from European Champs to trophyless!

    Having said all that id still take Liverpool to finish above City next season.

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  • 210. At 1:29pm on 16 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    Nice of you to remember me, though - unlike the McFans who can't even remember their own clubs' history!

    Although I see you choose to ignore that.

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  • 211. At 1:33pm on 16 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    "SAF took over in Nov 86 after Big Ron had lead us gloriously into the relegation zone.
    In 87/88, 88/89 we won nothing but in 89/90 we won the FA Cup. So thats 2 seasons when SAF started the season."

    Hmmm, what's that rumbling and monotonous squeak?

    It wouldn't be a McFan moving the goalposts, perhaps?

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  • 212. At 1:39pm on 16 Jul 2009, Zootmac wrote:

    The McFans haven't moved the goalposts since Wembley '77.

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  • 213. At 1:40pm on 16 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    You have to give them credit, though - only a McFan could convert four years into two without even a blush.

    Truly, they are the Marty McFly of football fandom.

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  • 214. At 1:52pm on 16 Jul 2009, Robbo Robson wrote:

    SamGalacticoblahblah

    The reason I've just caught up with all the banter is that I do have other stuff to do. Unlike some of us, but bless yer for hosting the whole caboodle for us.

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  • 215. At 2:03pm on 16 Jul 2009, MangoreUnited wrote:

    Sam_Red_Galactico only a Liverpool fan could turn a blog about Man City spending shed loads of cash on decidedly ok-ish players into a debate about how useless Man United fans are. Quality as always.

    It is pleasing to know that you base your opinion on all United fans on the few who genuinely don't know didly squat about our great club. That you take no regard of the majority of United fans who know the club inside out, who remember getting thrashed 4-1 at OT to QPR back in 1991 or being utterly useless in the 1970s and 1980s. I was born in 1981 and grew up a United fan because my dad was a United fan because he had the pleasure of watching George Best make the game beautiful.

    I supported United because my dad was a fan. I'm sure you support Liverpool cos your father did. Or because you grew up in the 70s and 80s when Liverpool were dominant, either way I don't care because I am only concerned with my club. I need not spend my days seeking excuses to talk about Liverpool fans being blindly faithful in Benitez in the way that Arsenal fans used to be about Wenger before the lack of silverware started to grate them.

    I need not spend my time taking pot shots at supporters who know nothing about their team's history - for every team has those fans Sam, even your almighty Reds. The point of this blog is not about who has the best educated fans or who is the most pompous Liverpool fan, with few opinions of his own on the topics at hand so he has to resort to saying "eh, some Man United fans (whom I shall ingeniusly label 'McFans' despite the fact that the reference makes no sense) don't know the history of their club, they just like the glory". High brow old bean, high brow.

    I am a 27 year old United fan who can recite tales of Duncan Edwards and Danny Blanchflower and Harry Cregg and Bill Foulkes and Bobby Charlton, Besty, Law, Kidd, Styles, Macari, McIlroy, Moses etc etc etc right up to Robson, McClair and Sparky, up to Cantona, Keane and Giggs, to the fledglings right on through to the current crop. Man United fans are not all as well versed in the clubs past triumphs and failures and legends and losses as I am, but then again not all Liverpool fans are idiots like yourself Sam. Good day sir.

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  • 216. At 2:12pm on 16 Jul 2009, Zootmac wrote:

    ref 215 MangorUnited

    The legendary Spurs captain, Danny Blanchflower, had a brother, Jackie, who played for ManU.

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  • 217. At 2:13pm on 16 Jul 2009, Neville Neville is their Dad wrote:

    #106

    Haha I just laughed so hard I nearly choked on my brew,

    "Lucas is coming on leaps and bounds"

    Best Joke Ive heard all summer!

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  • 218. At 2:17pm on 16 Jul 2009, GazUtd wrote:


    Like he knows who his dad is!

    Ooops. In the words of Sam Torrance a few minutes ago, "Did I say that or just think it".

    Seeing as I haven't lived in the UK for over a decade now can I just ask you all who are still there, whatever happened to that 'Care in the Community' thing?

    I think it must be still going strong as not only are they not locking up the fruit loops but they seem to be giving them computers now as well.

    Still, keeps them off the streets I suppose, and for some 24 hours a day because that's how often they seem to spend in front of it.

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  • 219. At 2:18pm on 16 Jul 2009, stelsbeterlukintwin wrote:

    Great blog Robbo, but really...

    Five words that don't make sense in the English language: "making do with Felicity Kendal"

    Megan Fox "glammed up to the 9s" would not come anywhere near Felicity in her wellies - shame on you.

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  • 220. At 2:20pm on 16 Jul 2009, MangoreUnited wrote:

    Zootmac wrote: "ref 215 MangorUnited

    The legendary Spurs captain, Danny Blanchflower, had a brother, Jackie, who played for ManU."

    I am tutting quite loudly at myself for that schoolboy error. I always get my Blanchflowers mixed up!!

    My point is that most on here are able to discuss the topics at hand but Liverpool fans, no matter the topic, just slag off United fans instead of engaging their brains in actually forming opinions.

    For shame

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  • 221. At 2:20pm on 16 Jul 2009, ControlledMagic wrote:

    Sam - like Robbo, i had other stuff to do!

    My point was that you had said that United's youth development system was non existant, or mythical, or something along those lines. I pointed out that the product of the youth system is either in the team, on the way through, or gone elsewhere as 'not made the grade'. That's why I also said that this could be a reflection of OT standards, given that one of them is a current England U21 and others are getting paid a damned sight more than me (and I suspect others on here) plying their trade at 'lesser' clubs or in lower divisions.

    I expect Robbo wants his blog back now - on the subject of which, Robbo, I even manage to smile when you take the **** out of United, 'cos I know that's what the blog's for. I'm going to miss Arsenal's, Chelsea's and Liverpool's visits to the Riverside this season... :-)

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  • 222. At 2:23pm on 16 Jul 2009, GazUtd wrote:

    Can I just point out that I got Poulter's trouser colour right. Unfortunately I didn't predict that he would wear a waistcoat from the 'Slightly doddery old Morris dancer' range.

    Robbo - If you are changing your name to 'PremiershipHereWeCome' are we assume you are changing allegiances to QPR as well? (Yes, yes, I know you put 'on the other hand' at the end of your post but it still needed to be said.)

    I think we should start a competition for a new user name for Robbo, the winner gets to spend a night in The Blue Bell. The losers get to spend 3 nights there.

    How about RobboUnitedLiverpoolChelseaLovingBiasedJournalist ?

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  • 223. At 2:26pm on 16 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    "I need not spend my days seeking excuses to talk about Liverpool fans being blindly faithful in Benitez in the way that Arsenal fans used to be about Wenger before the lack of silverware started to grate them."

    Or, indeed, Man Utd fans who were unfurling banners reading "Three Years And It's Still Crap - Tara Fergie".

    Again, blind to their own history.

    And I've got loads to do - luckily I can multitask.

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  • 224. At 2:29pm on 16 Jul 2009, GazUtd wrote:


    As the Mrs is continually telling me...

    "Posting rubbish on some blog while having another window open trying to find naked pics of Cheryl Cole is not multitasking"

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  • 225. At 2:30pm on 16 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    'The Mrs.

    Good one.

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  • 226. At 2:31pm on 16 Jul 2009, MouthoftheTyne wrote:

    It's really all a joke - perpetrated by Internet service providers to get everyone using more and net time! If anyone watches the news and listens to the golbal meltdown and then reads the sports pages you have to wonder who is telling porkies! A good player should always be better than an average one. I'm now off to do some cloning research and try and get a dna from Pele, Banks, Charlton and Robson (no, not you robbo - the other one) and then I'll make some BIG money.

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  • 227. At 2:36pm on 16 Jul 2009, wedontknowfootball wrote:

    the thing about city is they're city. there's no history. what else is there other than money?

    http://wedontknowfootball.com/

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  • 228. At 2:40pm on 16 Jul 2009, FilbertStreetFan wrote:

    Having a bad day Sam_Red_Galactico?

    You'll start crying in a minute!

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  • 229. At 2:50pm on 16 Jul 2009, JM75UK wrote:

    I see that yet again Robo you cannot talk about something football related without having one of your customary digs at Benitez.

    I like the way you have a pop at Benitez for stating FACT that transfer fees are getting ridiculous, but Fergie doing exactly the same was seen by you amongst others as "Annoyingly calm" despite being two faced about not getting involved in such things when he has bought the likes of Ferdinand, Rooney, Veron, Nani, Anderson, Carrick, Cantona etc for very large sums of money. Pot? Kettle? Black?

    You seem to be another of these media bods who are so far up Fergie's/Man U's backside that you check out the state of their teeth. I mean if Benitez had brought back Michael Owen, it would have been reported as a HUGE mistake in the media and was suggested as such even though it never came to pass. However now that Fergie has bought him it is seen as some kind of masterstroke along with the signing of Valencia despite the fact that one can't score at all and the other can't score because he is giving the medical staff something to do most of the time.

    Yet these players are supposed to replace the 30-40 goals that Man U have just lost? Fergie a Genius?!?!? Not unless you are involved in the Man U obsessed media.

    If I was you Robo I would be more concerned that you are in the process of losing a few of your best players and that your fans delight in seeing Newcastle relegated may be reversed this season.

    As for Man City well they may be signing lots of players but as Real Madrid found out a few years back this in no guarantee of success and they had better players and a better manager. They have a lot of egos knocking about and only eleven players from one team can be on the field at once, so a few players that were expecting to play are not going to get as much time as they expected and as such I predict that it won't be long before certain players start making waves and I don't belive that Hughes has what it takes to control these type of player.

    Lots of City fans are predicting great things, but I would not be at all surprised if they ended up in mid table. Lots of players may go to Man City for the cash (Nobody believes any of that "Challenge" talk) but the truly class players will always end up at the clubs with real heritage or recent success, not the Johnny come latelys who have money to burn.

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  • 230. At 2:54pm on 16 Jul 2009, GazUtd wrote:


    Breaking News : "Amy Winehouse's husband granted divorce on the grounds of her adultery."

    So I think we all now know what those "other things" that have been keeping Robbo busy are.

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  • 231. At 2:55pm on 16 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    "Having a bad day Sam_Red_Galactico?"

    No, apart from £150 bill for putting the car through its MOT.

    Anti-rollbar - that's one I've never had before!

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  • 232. At 2:59pm on 16 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    "now that Fergie has bought him it is seen as some kind of masterstroke along with the signing of Valencia despite the fact that one can't score at all and the other can't score because he is giving the medical staff something to do most of the time."

    That's a tad harsh on Valencia.

    In the three seasons he's been in the PL, he's banged in an earth-shattering SIX goals, with a jaw-dropping total of, wait for it, SEVEN assists!

    Ronaldo? Pah.

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  • 233. At 3:00pm on 16 Jul 2009, funnyvivalarasa wrote:

    199. At 12:07pm on 16 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    How embarrassing that they don't know their own club's history - but then, who's in the least bit surprised?
    -----------------------------------------------------
    Um fergie took control in nov 86 and won his first trophy in 89-90 season which means under him united have never gone trophyless for 3 complete seasons, and look who's talking a l'pool fan of every one out there.

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  • 234. At 3:00pm on 16 Jul 2009, Deemat wrote:

    Some might say Sparky is no Mourinho. But I say Mourinho is no Sparky.
    You see.. what I don't understand, Phil... is why you and so many others think Sparky will not survive? Who do you think is lining up all these players right now... Cook? Sparky has displayed nothing but professionalism to date at City, and wherever he's been. And his attitude and behaviour in front of the Press is superb - surely you have to agree to that. Okay, so he hasn't won anything. But then when has he ever been in a position to win anything until this new era we see now evolving at City? Cut the man a bit of slack. Just remember that Fergie was on his way out the door before Bobby C pursuaded the ManU board to keep him. I know this is a different time and there is much more money involved these days - it's a much bigger business than ever before. But what we need at City is a steady hand and a positive realistic vision. We seem to have that now together with a big bank balance that the management have demonstrated they can manage wisely. Does anyone really think that the present circumstances could be managed any better under the likes of Mourinho?

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  • 235. At 3:03pm on 16 Jul 2009, Zidanepirouette wrote:

    Hey chaps, there's some cricket going on today y'know...

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009/jul/16/ashes-england-australia-live-report

    ...much more interesting than a)Man City b)Sam Galactico's Man Utd obsession and c)any football until the Ashes is over

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  • 236. At 3:04pm on 16 Jul 2009, Eddy Cordoza wrote:

    45 comments from Sam_Red_Galactico!! Some kind of record? In answer to 228, I think the answer is yes, just look at the comments:

    22. Pop at Benitez / BBC bias

    26 BBC bias

    29. United dig

    33. United dig

    43. United dig

    51. United fans dig

    83. about city! ON TOPIC!!!

    88. wages

    90. United dig

    94. United dig / United fans dig

    99. anti-Liverpool sentiment in the press (!!)

    103. United dig

    106. "Lucas is coming on leaps and bounds"??!!!!!!!

    108. United dig

    113. United dig

    114. United dig

    116. United fans dig

    121. United dig. "Benayoun was awesome"??!!!!!

    123. Getting bored now

    127. United dig, selective amnesia

    128. United dig

    130. About city! On topic!!!

    133. United dig

    135. Drogba dig

    137. United dig / namecalling

    139. United fan dig

    146. United dig

    152. Is this person the most boring person on these blogs?

    153. United dig

    157. Yawn

    161. United dig

    164. On topic for the third time, well done!

    165. Yawn

    193. Must have popped out for half an hour - that was 28 comments without a word.

    197. United obsessed.

    199. United fan dig

    202. United dig

    203. Is Sam trying to break the world record for being dull?

    205. United fan dig.

    206. United fan dig / BBC dig

    210. United fan dig (clinging on to it because one person got a fact wrong)

    211. United fan dig

    213. United fan dig

    223. United fan dig ("I've got loads to do - luckily I can multi-task"!!!!!!)

    225. Pointless

    .

    45 comments and just THREE of them on topic! 29 of those comments about Manchester United!!!! He'll be getting an A4 sheet out soon.

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  • 237. At 3:05pm on 16 Jul 2009, Deemat wrote:

    Sorry Robbo... called you Phil. Maybe that's an omen!!!

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  • 238. At 3:05pm on 16 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    "Um fergie took control in nov 86 and won his first trophy in 89-90 season which means under him united have never gone trophyless for 3 complete seasons"

    No problem, but the original statement was that "We keep hearing how fantastic Liverpools set up is yet thats 3 trophyless years (something that has never happened at United during SAFs reign)", when in fact you went 3 and a half years under Ferguson's reign.

    Stop squirming.

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  • 239. At 3:14pm on 16 Jul 2009, Blue for you city wrote:

    I would love to see MUFC in the 3rd tier of English Football like we spent 10 years, when MUFC had their most successful season. Our fans stayed loyal.


    Those so called fans would drop United like a stone

    Thats the difference

    LOYALTY

    The only reason there is a Champions League (and you dont have to be champions to get into) compared to the European Cup (and you had to be Champions to qualify, is the Greedy 14 (ie. MUFC,Arsenal,Real Madrid)crying that they should be getting places in the European Cup every year, and bullying UEFA by threatening to form a breakaway league in the late 1990's.

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  • 240. At 3:14pm on 16 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    "Hey chaps, there's some cricket going on today y'know..."

    And as soon as you mention it we get two bowled out.

    Nice one.

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  • 241. At 3:19pm on 16 Jul 2009, Zidanepirouette wrote:

    Yeah sorry about that.

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  • 242. At 3:19pm on 16 Jul 2009, funnyvivalarasa wrote:

    okay fine so i didn't read the original statement too carefully,so can you now give it a rest,as I mentioned before,this blog is about city,so can you talk about that.

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  • 243. At 3:21pm on 16 Jul 2009, GazUtd wrote:


    #236

    "He'll be getting an A4 sheet out soon."

    ---------------------------------------


    I lol'd.

    A lot.

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  • 244. At 3:22pm on 16 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    Who cares about City?

    Everyone knows they're going to spend a fortune, sack a dozen, all fall out, get relegated then the money will run away and they'll spend five years clawing their way back to the PL.

    Come on, it's City.

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  • 245. At 3:28pm on 16 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    "I lol'd.

    A lot."

    In fairness, so did I.

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  • 246. At 3:31pm on 16 Jul 2009, Zootmac wrote:

    Wot's so funny? It's just an A4ism.

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  • 247. At 4:22pm on 16 Jul 2009, poshPompeyblue wrote:

    POOR POMPEY WILL BE FIGHTING FOR SURVIVAL BEST PLAYERS LEAVING TO BOLSTER THERE WALLETS,SAME OLD STORY!!!!

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  • 248. At 5:07pm on 16 Jul 2009, EricDantona wrote:

    I can see I'm not the first one to get in there, but Sam_Red_Galactico has properly hijacked this blog with his anti-United spamming. Get a job!

    The funniest thing about today's commenters is the few Manchester City fans who are brave enough to comment on how they're team are sure to be in the top 4 next year, and even one or two saying they will be competing for the title! They must be lying very convincingly to themselves. It's scary the tricks that the human mind can play.

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  • 249. At 5:15pm on 16 Jul 2009, EricDantona wrote:

    read: "their team"

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  • 250. At 5:27pm on 16 Jul 2009, RedWhiteandermblue wrote:

    "Posting rubbish on some blog while having another window open trying to find naked pics of Cheryl Cole is not multitasking."

    Damn!

    How about if you're accomplishing all this while drinking?

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  • 251. At 5:28pm on 16 Jul 2009, Just Danski aka PKM (Joe Cole one step-over too many) Gaël Kakuta is Sublime, I like my Corona with Lime, I like my Morgan's Spiced with Coke on Ice wrote:

    Robbo, I love your humourous blog most of the time. You have a fair pop at Chelsea on more than a few occasions and I swallow it with a bitter taste.

    But this has to be your best blog entry I have ever read. I don't think I've ever laughed out load reading anything on BBC Sport until now.

    In my country there's a saying:
    "It's not about the money, it's about the ammount of money."

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  • 252. At 5:45pm on 16 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    "I can see I'm not the first one to get in there, but Sam_Red_Galactico has properly hijacked this blog with his anti-United spamming. Get a job!"

    I've got a job - I'm just well ahead of myself so have a bit of time to spare.

    Alright then, City.

    Look, it's all well and good whinging on about how such massive spending will ruin the game, but the simple fact is that it's been going on for years - Man Utd spending £30m on a defender and £30m on a teenager, Chelsea spending £30m on a 30 year old, Liverpool spending £20m on a striker (who, may I point out, everyone scoffed at, including these venerable 'bloggers').

    Where things end up in ruination is if the club is spending beyond its means - look at Leeds, look at Newcastle for God's sake, who have gone down to the Championship with the fifth biggest wage bill in the Premier League! The club which Robbo attests to adore has spent an absolute fortune, half-cleaned out its owner and where are they now?

    I'll tell you where the problem really lies - Sky Television.

    The ridiculous (and mark my words, totally unsustainable) sums pumped into the English top-tier by Sky have given the Premier League a global audience, its players almost God-like status, and the fees for these players have sky-rocketed to match.

    £3bn to show football? Now if anyone with half a brain doesn't think that's simply insane, or believes that there aren't consequences in the fact that the stars of the piece aren't going to demand their slice, they're living in cloud cuckoo land. And along with this globalisation of the Premier League has come the influx of foreign owners, some of whom (mainly the Americans) are in it purely to scrape away the Sky profits at the expense of the clubs they've bought - without using a penny of their own billions - yet the biggest problem has become the owners who are using PL clubs as a 'plaything' or trinket - Chelsea and Man City being the obvious two.

    When you can throw half a billion at a squad without blinking an eye, just to be the Billy Big B*****ks on the block, you're artificially altering the playing field.

    There is an argument that with this huge influx of cash, it can only help the game due to the cash finding its way into clubs' coffers - but, as with the Sky money, it tends to only go to the biggest clubs anyway.

    As usual, the grassroots are left starving.

    Here's a thought - why can't the top divisions of the major football nations earmark a percentage of transfer fees to be passed down to the clubs that ACTUALLY need it?

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  • 253. At 6:00pm on 16 Jul 2009, Hipkissisnotabluenose wrote:

    112)
    maybe so villa have some cover for ashley young or to try different formations with young playing the second striker role

    youve signed michael owen, so does that mean wayne rooney is available?

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  • 254. At 6:01pm on 16 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    Nothing to say?

    Ok, I'll say it.

    BLAME YOURSELVES.

    You've paid your 50 quid a month to pretend you're football fans and, in turn, you've opened the doors to shysters and a bunch of foreigners who couldn't give a monkey's cuss about our game - they're only in it for the money and you're feeding them.

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  • 255. At 6:06pm on 16 Jul 2009, Hipkissisnotabluenose wrote:

    my comment 253

    its 117 not 112

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  • 256. At 6:12pm on 16 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    I think it speaks volumes, mind, that the first to supposedly shut up shop viz a viz big signings are the ones who just sold the best player in the world for the most ridiculous fee in football history who also, coincidentally, have the biggest debt in football history.

    And yes, I do have a rant about Man Utd - FACKT - but only because their fans are so disingenuous that they won't accept what everybody knows - that they're picking up cheap pish because they're being screwed by their American owners.

    So are we - we were promised a new stadium and instead our previous owner gets £90m in his back bin, a comfy seat at the game and we're worse off than we've ever been.

    Lovely man.

    And there's another thing - Man City have untold riches at their disposal yet they're getting their stadium on lease for coppers per year on a 250 year lease.

    Shouldn't Manchester City Council be having a look at that?

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  • 257. At 6:14pm on 16 Jul 2009, Gilo wrote:

    ON TOPIC:- I resent Man City and cant see Everton's honest attempt being now put to rest by there millions. BUT, love it or hate it wouldnt it be nice to see a new side in the 2010/11 Champions League?

    Fact is all four of the big four as of today are worse than last season, yet City a far improved(maybe big signings on there way). Chelsea older and still no depth up front, Arsenal without Adebeyor and no replacement, United without Ronaldo... (the difference between them and Chelsea for two years)...Liverpool look like losing Alonso and are a torres injury away from midtable....



    IDEA:- All transfer fees for players above £20m should be taxed 20% going to grass routes football and FA infrastructure and charity. This will save the 100s of clubs which risk demise over the next few years and the local heritage of our beautiful game.

    ALSO:- Does Blatter and Platini's outrageous prejudice against the EPL finances look a bit ridiculous in the wake of Real Madrid's illegal bank loans that get wiped every time. No-wonder the Spanish economy is screwed..

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  • 258. At 6:17pm on 16 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    ad astra,

    Downing for £12m is as ridiculous as Johnson was for £17m.

    In fact, moreso as Downing is a Championship player.

    At least you seem to have a decent American in charge.

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  • 259. At 6:20pm on 16 Jul 2009, R Nair wrote:

    No. 98, you've got 12 players in your starting XI. No. 110, you've got 9 players in your starting XI.

    Anyway, it's been a long time since a top flight club lined up 2-3-5.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formation_(association_football)#2-3-5_.28The_Pyramid.29

    Perhaps it's time for a club to try it out again.

    Anyway, are Manchester City the latest "Bank of England" club? Or "Moneybags City"?

    http://footballinsights.wordpress.com/2009/07/17/manchester-city-the-new-bank-of-england-club/

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  • 260. At 6:25pm on 16 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    "ON TOPIC:- I resent Man City and cant see Everton's honest attempt being now put to rest by there millions. BUT, love it or hate it wouldnt it be nice to see a new side in the 2010/11 Champions League?"

    I don't resent Man City's new-found fortune at all - it's an inevitable part of what Sky created and of all the clubs who deserve their place in the sun, it's City, having to live in the shadow of that hideous conglomerate for so long.

    "Fact is all four of the big four as of today are worse than last season"

    The rest was ridiculous, mate. Liverpool destroyed the supposed biggest team in the world without their best players.

    The real fact is that Man Utd lost 40 goals per season in goals and assists for the sake of knocking a bit off their debt.

    Hence the purchase of a £16m Wigan player who's scored 6 goals and made 7 assists in three years, a free cripple and a Frenchman who even Houllier wouldn't touch.

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  • 261. At 6:35pm on 16 Jul 2009, Ayoade Oluwasanmi wrote:

    Robbo, I just couldn't stop laughing!!! You really do crack me up. Its all true. And thank GOD we're shorn of Adebayor. Please tell me Robbo, when are you going to Buckingham Palace to get your OBE?

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  • 262. At 6:36pm on 16 Jul 2009, Gilo wrote:

    260 - you beat Madrid. Well done...milking that for 5 months. You didnt win anything so milk that. And Torres fitness or Rafa amazingly subbing Gerrard seemed to correlate well with drawing with Wigan, West Ham, Stoke, throwing title....

    Valencia is promising but not Ronaldo. Dont bother debating he is better.

    More signings to come I am sure but right now...this second...all four are weaker. City however, are stronger. And the most likely to continue that trend...

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  • 263. At 6:37pm on 16 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    I've not seen ONE City fan, as it happens, question the signings of eight million strikers and no defenders.

    Is Micah Richards good enough? Is Mark Hughes going to have the time to bring him back after the mare he had last season?

    Does Mark Hughes care?

    I would suggest that the manager is the worst of the lot - absolutely nobody thinks he's up to this task, yet he's hanging on in there.

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  • 264. At 6:45pm on 16 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    "Valencia is promising but not Ronaldo."

    SIX goals and SEVEN assists? £16m? How long's Fergie staying? Till he's 90?

    He spent £40m on two players who were supposed to replace Giggs and Scholes, and they're AWFUL!

    Do you think you've signed Owen to play as a sub? That's not going to get him in th England side, which is all he's ever been interested in - I'd love to see the terms of his contract (and that's a two year contract, on 50 grand a week - not the 'pay as you play' as was reported by these lot) - will you be surprised if Rooney is playing as a wingback yet again to cover the crock and the laziest £32m in history?

    "More signings to come"

    Not according to your manager - unless he's a liar.

    There'd be a surprise, eh?

    Remember the lies about Rafa's hand movements?

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  • 265. At 7:10pm on 16 Jul 2009, Gilo wrote:

    264 - Thats my point. He his a weaker replacement, hence they are not as strong as 2008/09!! You shouldnt be allowed on here, IQ reasons amongst football dillusions.

    My point is United like the other big 4 are in slight decline this summer.

    "More Signing to come" - yes with 6 weeks to go in the window im sure the big four have plans to repel city in the market.

    If you attempting to have a weak dig at Moyes there is no disallusion amongst us blues that we are financially miles behind and already punching well above our weight by representing Merseyside in a final last year.

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  • 266. At 7:12pm on 16 Jul 2009, Gilo wrote:

    Reflecting on your joke comment about beating Madrid making you the best team in the world (Madrid that won nothing last year)....We ruined your FA Cup run with our injured reserves yet I acknowledge the reds are clearly still the better side.

    Lost to Bury last week in a friendly so by your measures they are now the 5th best team in England??

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  • 267. At 7:25pm on 16 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    We aren't weaker than last season, though.

    As far as I can see, we've only added to our squad.

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  • 268. At 7:26pm on 16 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    And where did I say anything about Real Madrid?

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  • 269. At 7:29pm on 16 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    giles,

    You're massively out of your depth.

    That'll come with being a McFan called Giles.

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  • 270. At 7:31pm on 16 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    Should people called Giles even be allowed to watch football?

    Isn't that half the problem?

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  • 271. At 7:35pm on 16 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    Rah! Rah! Rah!

    We're going to smash the oiks!

    What a joke.

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  • 272. At 7:37pm on 16 Jul 2009, Gilo wrote:

    Yeah think I won the debate. Not going to further comment as more interested on what other people have to say rather than us dominate this blog comments. Im sure signing Johnson the Chelsea reject will no doubt mean you will win every game 23-0. Alonso on his way too...

    Great blog post Robbo. Anyone else agree with my Big Four in decline this summer?

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  • 273. At 7:39pm on 16 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    Giles lol

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  • 274. At 7:40pm on 16 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    You enjoy it, son.

    Giles.

    Ffs.

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  • 275. At 7:42pm on 16 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    When you have the Giles', Tarquins and Buntys, it just underlines my earlier point.

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  • 276. At 7:44pm on 16 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    Shouldn't it be smedleysmythe?

    Or did you tone it down for us plebs

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  • 277. At 7:50pm on 16 Jul 2009, skyblueusa243 wrote:

    Great Blog Robbo,

    Let me start by first stating that I am a City fan and do personally approve of the big spending. There are a few things I'd like to comment on.

    First off, all these fans of the big 4 claim that City are jacking up the prices on players and generally making it more difficult for lower teams to purchase quality players at decent prices. I'll refer to some statistics that I found online for a reference. At transferleague.co.uk I read up on how much the big 4 teams have spent in the last 5 seasons. Arsenal spent the least of the 4 over the last 5 seasons, totaling about just over 100 Million Pounds. Manchester United spent roughly 180 Million Pounds. Liverpool spend just over 230 Million while Chelsea forked out 260 Million over the last 5 seasons, and that doesn't include the 03/04 transfer window where they spent a massive 153 million just that summer. In contrast, Manchester City in the past 5 seasons has spent just about 200 million, which is not a massive number as it falls between the big 4 teams.

    Before people criticize City for spending vast sums of money perhaps they should check there facts first. It takes money to have a good team, simple as that.

    My only other point is that although I agree City needs to buy players I don't feel that they need to exclusively buy strikers. I think of Gareth Barry as one of the best signings this summer for the team. Tevez and Santa Cruz will most certainly contribute, however, with Robinho already in the side and many other strikers on the bench to choose from, what makes Adebayor valuable to City? At a cost of 25 Million, it seems to me that money will go down the drain, and quite quickly, as you cannot field all those strikers at once. Man U had this same problem last year with Ronaldo, Tevez, Rooney and Berbatov. They only played 1 or 2 games with all 4 of them on the field.

    I hope that City will come to there senses and start buying some quality defenders. They missed a good opportunity in Oguchi Onyewu who plays for the USA national team and went to AC Milan on the cheap this summer. In my opinion they really need to stop this nonsense with John Terry and make some moves for players that could realistically help them. For instance, Jolean Lescott of Everton, Alex from Chelsea, maybe even a bid for Johnny Evans from Man U.

    Again excellent blog and happy to see the comments to follow.

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  • 278. At 8:00pm on 16 Jul 2009, skyblueusa243 wrote:

    One thing I forgot to add from my comment at #277 is the figures for the other 3 teams people have been discussing on this blog. Everton, Aston Villa and Tottenham. Over the past 5 seasons Villa have spent about 91 million pounds, which isn't a terribly small figure. Everton spend roughly 79 Million and Tottenham, with little success to show for it aside from an FA cup victory I believe, spent over 215 million, which is even more than City, and I haven't heard anyone griping over this expenditure.

    For people who think splashing money around is a recent development, HAH! Try again...

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  • 279. At 8:01pm on 16 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    I've enjoyed this - it's the only one I can post on because I'm banned from 606 for staying on the Liverpool site and railing against Man Utd fans who come on and take the p***.

    No regrets.

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  • 280. At 8:07pm on 16 Jul 2009, Gilo wrote:

    277 & 278. Overall some fair arguements and its true that whilst more lmitations are in place Villa, Everton, Spurs are hardly bankrupt and on a shoe string.

    I think the anti-city emotions come from the fact that arguably pre-Abramovic Chelsea had recently won and runners up in a few cup finals, regularly made Europe since the days of Hoddle. So were already a foundation of a big club. Although thats not me disregarding the Russians huge influence. Talk about lack of success but prior to this they had not won a bean since the league title win in 1955 (or 58...)?

    Whilst Everton have spent money there wages are club policy capped and thats normally why we cant attract the cheque book hunter stars. Focussing more on emerging/unproven talent like Cahill, Lescott. Man United and quite rightly as they are expected to win trophies every year cannot take that risky approach. Hence they wait for proven world class players to be available (not always) and buy them at a premium. Wayne Rooney is a perfect example.

    If city play great football and challenge the status quo I see this as a slightly worrying but intriguing season ahead. Good luck to them. I feel Everton will definately lose out to them but not yet convinced Man U/Chelski will.

    What do you think about all transfers above £20m being taxed so the grass routes gets some. The Ronaldo deal set another scary new level of reminder about the gaps in finances from Conference to EPL

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  • 281. At 8:21pm on 16 Jul 2009, skyblueusa243 wrote:

    280, I'm glad to see some sense, There's no doubting that the big 4 were established sides before spending vast sums in recent years as well as the lack of silverware at City for the past half-century.

    I personally agree with the tax on the large transfer sums. Myself, being from the United States, have grown up watching the sports here where every league and sport have a salary cap per team. It does make it very competitive and almost unheard of to see a team win multiple title in quick succession. However, I enjoy English football far more than the sports here because of the fact that some of the things that go on are just absolutely hilarious.

    On the subject of City challenging for the title, I doubt it. As much as I'd love to see that I see them having trouble later in the season, lacking depth in the squad (with the exception of strikers, obviously). I think Man U and Liverpool with probably go down to the wire again but with Chelsea much closer than last season. Arsenal seem like what we might call a farm team, that grows players from amateurs into professionals then sells them for a profit. I can't seem them challenging for anything in the next 1 or 2 seasons until there young boys get more experience.

    I will make one last comment on the spending of top flight clubs. In World Soccer Magazine, last year they had an article on which clubs spent the most over the summer and the newly promoted clubs spent near to the top 10 in the world on new players and some of them still go down. Matter of fact West Ham, Sunderland and Portsmouth spend fairly large chunks of cash on players and still end up middle to bottom of the table. My point being, money won't buy success unless you know who to buy it with and how to make that team worth. Simple as that.

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  • 282. At 8:52pm on 16 Jul 2009, OWAF wrote:

    For me i think John Terry has a right to be a little angry,
    If there was an offer on the table he should have been the first to know,
    Because the club should have trusted him to stay....

    Man city for me have only made one good signing
    santa cruz=over rated
    teves=good
    barry=over rated
    adebayor=over rated

    and for me i thought there problem was in defense...
    richards wasnt superb
    and dunne was rubbish at points

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  • 283. At 10:29pm on 16 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    This is painful.

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  • 284. At 10:30pm on 16 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the House Rules.

  • 285. At 10:32pm on 16 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    When people called Giles are commenting about football, don't have a go at me.

    I'm sorry,, but no.

    Giles.

    Jesus.

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  • 286. At 10:33pm on 16 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    I mean shit, you wouldn't last five minutes.

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  • 287. At 10:34pm on 16 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    Giles.

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  • 288. At 10:56pm on 16 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    I mean, isn't the vert fact that people called Giles are commenting on English football indicitive of what it's become?

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  • 289. At 10:56pm on 16 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    Very, sorry.

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  • 290. At 11:04pm on 16 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    DOWNING AND OUT

    I notice you're quiet on that one.

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  • 291. At 11:08pm on 16 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    I suspect it's a new Robbo, but how can you tell when he posts one in 200.

    I've done you people a favour by uncovering the horse**** they tell you.

    And you lambast me for it.

    Sun readers.

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  • 292. At 11:09pm on 16 Jul 2009, TurnerTheManc wrote:

    Whinge whinge whinge.
    I bet you've all been whinging all your life. "Why has my brother got a lolly and I havnt", " why has my mate got a bird and I havnt", " why has Man City got enormous amounts of dosh, and my team hasnt"

    I dont remember anyone whinging when United bought Ferdinand 8 years ago for 32 Million (more than Rubinho). I dont remember anyone whinging when United bought Berbatov, with his silly hair, for 30 Mill (more than Tevez)
    United get an over the Hill crock on a free and somehow that makes him now the new messiah, and hes young again, and never gets injuries.

    Its like the lovable chap at the firm I work, who got 5 numbers and the bonus ball, £189,000. Suddenly the likeable chap who never did anyone no harm "didnt deserve it", "is still wearing that same coat", "didnt offer me any of it, and I brewed up for him for 20 years...ungreatful *&%*&"

    Dream on losers. You may win the Arab Lottery too one day, and then, I am sure, it will suddenly be quite alright.

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  • 293. At 11:11pm on 16 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    You're just a unt, mate.

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  • 294. At 11:13pm on 16 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    A lolly

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  • 295. At 11:14pm on 16 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    Arab

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  • 296. At 11:15pm on 16 Jul 2009, GazUtd wrote:


    Seriously, shouldn't someone call the relevant authorities?

    There's clearly been an escape of some sort.

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  • 297. At 11:15pm on 16 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the House Rules.

  • 298. At 11:18pm on 16 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    Gax,

    You got nothing better to do to, too

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  • 299. At 11:19pm on 16 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    extra to there

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  • 300. At 11:20pm on 16 Jul 2009, Torresque wrote:

    Sam_Red mate, you started off with some fair points but have degenerated into random nonsense. Not threatening you but you swore so you're gonna get banned . Just leave it out, k?
    Does it make a difference if you spend large amounts spread over the years or in one gargantuan disgustingly large lump? City want to get good and quick, I see no difference to other sides spending similar amounts just over a larger time period. Then again if City, Madrid etc are going to spend this much EVERY transfer window then I feel it is wrong.

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  • 301. At 11:26pm on 16 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    I'm amazed about this for a number of reasons.

    1. It was open.

    2. My pish wasn't scrubbed immediately.

    How much are they paying the 12 year olda on 606?

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  • 302. At 11:27pm on 16 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    olds

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  • 303. At 11:33pm on 16 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    Is it out of order to call them spineless wastes of space?

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  • 304. At 11:40pm on 16 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    I mean, it's ok to have a conversation/debate/argument.

    But.

    The BBC is promoting child stupidity at the moment.

    None of whom have paid for the privilige

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  • 305. At 11:46pm on 16 Jul 2009, Spitfire wrote:

    Sometimes, I do wish the comments here be moderated.

    We do get an occasional crazy person but all in all, people try to make sense. Albeit, some make sense only to themselves.

    Thats fair enough. Freedom of speech and opinion and its expression etc.

    But shouldn't this Sam_red fellow be put out of his misery?

    The social services need get involved here.
    I hate to imagine what serious trauma he has gone through. Bullied as a child, abused at home, castrated at work place, lost his job, never had close human contact of a meaning. ...... all of the above and many more.
    The guy is beyond bitter. The only way it would make me feel a bit less worried is if somehow, this outburst on a fairly balanced blog, has prevented him from carrying out a schoolyard massacre or something other on such sinister lines.

    In past people might have stoned him for being possessed or tried an exorcism but the Psychologists today tell us that he may not have any control over his actions. He needs a hug, but please do take precautions. What ever he has might be contagious.

    The guy seriously needs help, don't you think?

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  • 306. At 11:49pm on 16 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    Why's that?

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  • 307. At 11:51pm on 16 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    I'm not the one thinking about dodgy stuff - your post was full of it.

    Weirdo.

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  • 308. At 11:57pm on 16 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    Jesus, Spitfire.

    I'm on here having a laugh cos the telly's crap.

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  • 309. At 00:00am on 17 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    Put the bread knife away

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  • 310. At 00:06am on 17 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    I only posted so many times on here because the BBC banned me from 606 for arguing, on the Liverpool board, about Man Utd so-called fans destroying any chat.

    This let me, and it was too good a chance to miss.

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  • 311. At 00:39am on 17 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    I just wish there was somone on here with s brain.

    There is'nt.

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  • 312. At 00:42am on 17 Jul 2009, Robbo Robson wrote:

    It's late. SamGalatasarayredetc....

    Please tell me you're sleeping

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  • 313. At 00:43am on 17 Jul 2009, Robbo Robson wrote:

    Arrrrghhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
    Now sleep.

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  • 314. At 00:56am on 17 Jul 2009, Plectognath wrote:

    Oh, all this moaning about City! I think if you are going to bash City then it's only fair to bash Chelsea for the same thing - Chelsea didn't exactly earn their place in the top four.

    Besides, no-one seems brave enough to point out that the top four monopoly seems destined to end soon, surely that is good thing?

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  • 315. At 01:04am on 17 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    Nope

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  • 316. At 01:05am on 17 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    Loving The Smiths on Spotify.

    Pish, but the music is classic,

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  • 317. At 01:13am on 17 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    "It's late. SamGalatasarayredetc....

    Please tell me you're sleeping

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    # 313. At 00:43am on 17 Jul 2009, Robbo Robson wrote:

    Arrrrghhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
    Now sleep."

    Stop the Boro pretence and I will

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  • 318. At 01:18am on 17 Jul 2009, Sam_Red_Galactico wrote:

    The simple science of the day tells you people that there's no such person as 'Robbo'.

    I did appreciate the idiot boy just there, though.

    Worth a try.

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  • 319. At 01:35am on 17 Jul 2009, Ozeki wrote:

    I am a City follower, and I'm not comfortable with it. I guess partly because following a sporting team requires resilience, passion, commitment, tenacity and living through the lows to fully appreciate the highs. That's the supporters lot. But then to go and watch a group of players in the shirt who are clearly running around COMS for money and little else leaves me cold. That's partly why I dislike Chelsea so much. But I guess that is the nature of big money Pro Sport these days. NHL Ice Hockey players sometimes play for several teams in a single season. Loyalty and commitment clearly has no place in top flight Sport any more, so why should they expect it from us?

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  • 320. At 03:43am on 17 Jul 2009, colclimb wrote:

    @sam_red_cabagios
    Don't think I've ever heard so much drivel from one mouth piece.
    You're not biased of course are you.
    And you think you have a brain?
    Typical scouser I think,all mouth and trousers,give it a rest you plank!

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  • 321. At 04:38am on 17 Jul 2009, Gilo wrote:

    Sam_Red_Galactico

    Not sure whether you can give any banter out after being on the bbc website for 9 hours?

    The fact your a scouser likely means your not working. Being called Giles automatically inherits me enough land to hunt on to build 6 Anfields.

    Think you've bored us all on here. Hopefully your watching GCSE bitesize now.

    I guess we can all be grateful your 'online'. I wasn't aware the internet was available on Merseyside.

    Giles (seriously richer than you) Smith.

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  • 322. At 04:46am on 17 Jul 2009, b1ackRose wrote:

    If City don't manage to lure Terry, Puyol, Touré and/or whoever else they're following, they will have another terrible season. "They bag some goals, but concede just as much" - I heard spoken by many people during last season. It's not enough to simply try and 'score more than them', they need a defence to match the standard of attack.

    But if City are to hold on to the players they have, and attract the kind big names they're after at the moment, a serious challenge for a Champions League spot is essential. If they prove to be all talky and no walky, I can see some of these 'stars' handing in transfer requests.

    Players like Barry will embrace the move, because in all honesty, City are more likely to consistently challenge the top four within the next five years than Villa are. But Kaká, Terry etc. are out of their reach untill they do. In the meantime, Hughes has got a tough old job keeping players, fans and foreign owners happy.

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  • 323. At 08:36am on 17 Jul 2009, God_Tony_Yeboah_21 wrote:

    252: Here's a thought - why can't the top divisions of the major football nations earmark a percentage of transfer fees to be passed down to the clubs that ACTUALLY need it?

    ---

    Gee, not sure... what percentage of your salary do you give to the homeless?

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  • 324. At 10:10am on 17 Jul 2009, RedBlueArmy92 wrote:

    hahahahaha, oh man RedSam you are actully mental mate, and i can respect that, but you have to wonder how much of a big man you are out of a chat room/blog???

    Bring back SimpleTruth09!

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  • 325. At 10:40am on 17 Jul 2009, chips_in_the_queue wrote:

    He's crackin up,
    he's crackin' up,
    he's crackin,
    Red Sam's crackin' up.

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  • 326. At 11:27am on 17 Jul 2009, AwdTiger wrote:

    #58 RedDutchman said "To be honest, I would hate to be in the position of a City fan right now. One of the best things about following a club like Manchester United, or Liverpool, or Arsenal, is the rich history, the proven track-record of success, and the knowledge that big-name signings have come off the back of success, not because some multi-billionaire fancies playing owner of a football club."

    Only a Man U supporter would make a statement like this without having his tongue firmly glued to his cheek! Man U have, over the years, bought more high-priced players than any other team in the EPL. Then when Chelski started to out-buy players the Man U fans started complaining about Abramovich now they are doing the same with Man City. the only thing RedDutchman got right was the statement about the "rich history" because let's face it Man U have always been prepared to put their hands in their pockets to try and keep their team near the top of the EPL (just look at the last few years - Rooney, Berbatov, Hargreaves and now Valencia!) They just hate the thought that another team could do the same - or better!!!

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  • 327. At 1:00pm on 17 Jul 2009, Hipkissisnotabluenose wrote:

    this redsam bloke is obviously a moron, he uses spotify ffs

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  • 328. At 1:31pm on 17 Jul 2009, tommy2010 wrote:

    There's no way City will challenge the big 4..

    To do that they'd need to be signing Lampard/ Gerard as opposed to Barry... Or Villa/ Drogba as opposed to Santa Cruz and Adebayor...

    Villa and Everton will be strong as usual- Spurs could suprise a few people- City will finish top 6 at best..

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  • 329. At 1:48pm on 17 Jul 2009, Robbo Robson wrote:

    re above: agreed. 2010-11 top three though.

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  • 330. At 2:02pm on 17 Jul 2009, RedBlueArmy92 wrote:

    Aint you watching the cricket Robbo???

    Are we going to make the ozzies follow on at Lords???

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  • 331. At 2:18pm on 17 Jul 2009, Zootmac wrote:

    Ref 330 RedBlueArmy92

    You made the rain come on, you blighter. I'll be sending Sam round to boil your bunny.

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  • 332. At 2:19pm on 17 Jul 2009, StratfordBlade wrote:

    Good stuff as always, Robbo.


    Now.....if Felicity Kendall is going spare??

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  • 333. At 3:37pm on 17 Jul 2009, RedBlueArmy92 wrote:

    331, haha... My apologies Zoots.

    But its raining again now, and i wont be blamed for this one... I think RedSams ade a weather machine and is targeting Lords, theres bound to more than a few Giles' in that crowd!

    Ay up, we're back on in 5...

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  • 334. At 4:06pm on 17 Jul 2009, gorgeousninja wrote:

    re sam_red_galapagos

    Overheard in grotty little tenement a mere scud missiles throw from anfield

    "Sammy dear its teatime"

    "oh mummy I'm having such fun I've been playing on the BBC website bloggy thing all day, I'm a real proper journo... journa.. writer! And I've managed to upset just about everyone on there with my constant pointless inanity.
    Someone called Robbo whose blog it is, was talking about Man City but said something amusing about Mr Rafa, so I decided to start going on and on and on about Manchester United, I even called Sir Alex Ferguson a doddery old fool...aren't I clever??

    Yes dear, because someone said something humorous about the boss of the football club you like, you disrespect, and insult the most successful football manger in the history of the game thereby bringing shame upon yourself your family, and your club.

    Oh don't start mummy thats what they keep saying! I'm being a WUM its great! It means Weely Useless Muppet or something, but basically means that I have a vastly inflated ego and to compensate for lacking basic social skills I think posting my witless drivel is actually funny.

    Well its time for your bedtime young man. I've put out your favorite pyjamas, the red silky ones that you scribbled 'Livapouls bestest ever soopartor' on, so run along, I'm sure Kenny Dalglish would be very proud of you.

    Kenny Dalglish, mummy? Who's he ?

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  • 335. At 5:36pm on 17 Jul 2009, EricDantona wrote:

    To post #279 (approximately post #200 to be credited to this idiot) - Can we not have you banned from posting here as well? That would be swell. You're spamming, provoking and displaying prejudism time after time, all without managing to make a single comment that is relevant to the discussion.

    How many breaches of the House Rules are required to remove bottom-feeding trolls from the swamp?

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  • 336. At 01:28am on 19 Jul 2009, praky69 wrote:

    love your blogs..always hits the right stop.."solarsystemicos" and tevez as a dark version of Alice in Wonderland are priceless. thanks for the blog.. lol
    :D

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  • 337. At 12:57pm on 19 Jul 2009, mcfcMeLLA wrote:

    Rubbish

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  • 338. At 9:52pm on 19 Jul 2009, hongkong_fuee wrote:

    I think it's hard to take a stance against city's spending unless you believe the strangle hold the top 4 teams currently have on the premiership is a good thing. That is unless your already a bias pundit. There was never any where near as much fuss when chelsea splashed the cash and that was only because the big wigs knew their place the champions league was still safe. Now they know along with aston villa and everton (if either of them recreate a similar season to last) city pose a serious threat. It would be nice to stop hearing people moan about the money and actually looking forward to some close games next season.

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  • 339. At 1:46pm on 20 Jul 2009, jordanuk90MUFC wrote:

    Liverpool defaulted on their loan
    RBS give them an extension rather than taking them into administration
    RBS is 70% public owned - a failed bank because of sub-prime lending
    As Liverpool has proven it can't repay the money, is this sub-prime?

    And - as this is using public money.

    Do the public own LFC?
    ------------------------------------------------------------

    If so my vote goes to get rid of the club hahaha

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  • 340. At 1:03pm on 21 Jul 2009, Blue for you city wrote:

    339 You could argue that the Glazers had a big investment into AIG which was taken over by The US Government.

    The US Government are arguing about paying the 28million dollars to United for AIG Sponsorship.

    Are MUFC now really owned by President Obama.

    As financial experts say United are 1 bad season away from being a Lehmans Brothers or AIG.

    The money for Ronaldo is going to pay off the 5 layer debts of the Glazers.



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  • 341. At 12:35pm on 24 Jul 2009, jam tomorrow wrote:

    This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the House Rules.

  • 342. At 4:48pm on 25 Jul 2009, Jimmy2Times wrote:

    good piece robbo but i must contest the line about joe cole. when he has been fit he has always been in and among the side, a fact born by his chelsea player of the year award in 2007-08. even under mourinho he was a big part of the team, although mourinho left him out on occasion to teach him lessons on being a team player instead of a brazillian one man team!!!!

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  • 343. At 1:11pm on 27 Jul 2009, jam tomorrow wrote:

    I see this nonsense is still here.

    So lets get this straight, a Boro fan opens up a page for all and sundry to take cheap shots at Manchester City and then leaves it as a permanent fixture on the City page, nice work unbiased BBC!!

    So would the same thing happen on the Man Utd page, well of course not because even though Fergie wont speak to the beeb you lot fall over yourselves praising him and his club.

    Well when Cameron gets in the days of you lot free loading may be over so enjoy the money for old rope whilst it lasts.

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  • 344. At 8:49pm on 29 Jul 2009, jam tomorrow wrote:

    This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the House Rules.

  • 345. At 4:26pm on 30 Jul 2009, R Nair wrote:

    Robbo, do you remember the days before and after the War, when the phrase "Bank of England club" was used to describe the club with the greatest financial clout?

    http://footballinsights.wordpress.com/2009/07/17/manchester-city-the-new-bank-of-england-club/

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